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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:50 pm

A gang who sexually abused vulnerable girls as young as eleven in Huddersfield have been jailed for over 200 years in the latest Asian sex ring to be brought before the courts. The 'cynical' exploitation of the girls - aged between just 11 and 17 - often included plying them with alcohol and drugging them before carrying out horrific sexual assaults.

The court heard evidence from 15 victims during the trials and the judge said he fears none of them will ever recover from their ordeals. The Leeds trials attracted protests by right wing groups and EDL founder Tommy Robinson, who was jailed for contempt for endangering one of the cases with social media posts. He has since been freed and faces another hearing.

At least one of the victims attempted suicide and another had to have an abortion after falling pregnant, prosecutor Richard Wright QC told the jury during the trials.

Ringleader Amere Singh Dhaliwal, 35, was jailed for life earlier this year and told he must serve a minimum of 18 years in prison by a judge who said: "Your treatment of these girls was inhuman."

Dhaliwal is one of 20 men who have been found guilty of scores of offences in a series of trials at Leeds Crown Court.

The abuse, which centred in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, took place 'in cars, car parks, houses, a snooker centre, a takeaway, a park and other places'.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6294939/Huddersfield-Asian-sex-gang-jailed-200-years.html

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:55 pm

what a crock of shite...200 years my foot, even allowing the worst one gets 18 years minimum the rest? less than 10 years each of which most will serve only 5

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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:57 pm

Lord Foul wrote:what a crock of shite...200 years my foot, even allowing the worst  one gets 18 years minimum the rest?  less than 10 years each of which most will serve only 5

100% agreed. Its an utter shambles, how again such sex offenders are given such light sentences, no matter their ethnicity.

Again the victims have to sit in dispair, knowing these scum will be out in half that time

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:32 pm

They should all be executed!

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Tommy Monk wrote:They should all be executed!

Cool Or appointed to the Supreme Court. Razz

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Tommy Monk wrote:They should all be executed!

Cool   Or appointed to the Supreme Court.  Razz

Still casting guilt based on a claim, where nobody corroborated the story?

Even one of her friends, interviewed by the FBI

I mean what person after a claimed sexual assualt, leaves one of her best friends in the house with the claimed attackers?

Do you not see, how her story, simple does not add up? Where she later states, that friend drove her home? Only after shown to to where she made conflicting claims?

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Those aren't men. They're not even animals. There's no name for them really other than monster.
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Didge wrote:Still casting guilt based on a claim, where nobody corroborated the story?

I believe the accuser.  She doesn't need corroboration, when her testimony was under oath, and he was lying about it.  But hey, Republicans have got a racketeer mobster who's a pussy-grabber in the White House, several pǽdophiles in Congress, so why not an alcoholic rapist on the Court?

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Didge wrote:Still casting guilt based on a claim, where nobody corroborated the story?

I believe the accuser.  She doesn't need corroboration, when her testimony was under oath, and he was lying about it.  But hey, Republicans have got a racketeer mobster who's a pussy-grabber in the White House, several pǽdophiles in Congress, so why not an alcoholic rapist on the Court?

Her best friend, had no recolection, which she named as being there.

Explain to me, why she never warned her?

She claimed to have run out of the house

Are you telling me, that when this same friend, who she admitted, drove her home, she never said nothing about this?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:33 pm

Amere Singh Dhaliwal, nicknamed 'Pretos', 35 - jailed for life, minimum of 18 years

- Irfan Ahmed, nicknamed 'Finny', 34 - jailed for eight years

- Zahid Hassan, nicknamed 'Little Manny', 29 - jailed for 18 years

- Mohammed Kammer, nicknamed 'Kammy', 34 - jailed for 16 years

- Mohammed Rizwan Aslam, nicknamed 'Big Riz', 31 - jailed for 15 years

- Abdul Rehman, nicknamed 'Beastie', 31- jailed for 16 years 

- Raj Singh Barsran, nicknamed 'Raj', 34 - jailed for 17 years

- Nahman Mohammed, nicknamed 'Dracula' 32 - jailed for 15 years 

- Mansoor Akhtar, nicknamed 'Boy', 27 - jailed for eight years

- Wiqas Mahmud, nicknamed 'Vic', 38 - jailed for 15 years 

- Nasarat Hussain, nicknamed 'Nurse', 30 - jailed for 17 years

-  Sajid Hussain, nicknamed 'Fish' 33 - jailed for 17 years

- Mohammed Irfraz, nicknamed 'Faj' 30 - jailed for six years

- Faisal Nadeem, nicknamed 'Chiller' 32 - jailed for 12 years

- Mohammed Azeem, nicknamed 'Mosabella', 33 - jailed for 18 years

- Manzoor Hassan, nicknamed 'Big Manny' 38 - jailed for five years

- Niaz Ahmed, 54, nicknamed 'Shaq' - to be sentenced on November 1

- Mohammed Imran Ibrar, nicknamed 'Bully', 34 - to be sentenced on November 1

- Asif Bashir, nicknamed 'Junior', 33 - sentenced November 1

- Mohammed Akram, nicknamed 'Kid' 33 - to be sentenced on November 1




I see they are almost exclusively Pakistani moslims again... the main one is said to be Sikh, but says in article that he only converted to being Sikh 5 years ago... so what's the betting that he is really just another Pakistani moslim...?

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Post by Syl on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:39 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Amere Singh Dhaliwal, nicknamed 'Pretos', 35 - jailed for life, minimum of 18 years

- Irfan Ahmed, nicknamed 'Finny', 34 - jailed for eight years

- Zahid Hassan, nicknamed 'Little Manny', 29 - jailed for 18 years

- Mohammed Kammer, nicknamed 'Kammy', 34 - jailed for 16 years

- Mohammed Rizwan Aslam, nicknamed 'Big Riz', 31 - jailed for 15 years

- Abdul Rehman, nicknamed 'Beastie', 31- jailed for 16 years 

- Raj Singh Barsran, nicknamed 'Raj', 34 - jailed for 17 years

- Nahman Mohammed, nicknamed 'Dracula' 32 - jailed for 15 years 

- Mansoor Akhtar, nicknamed 'Boy', 27 - jailed for eight years

- Wiqas Mahmud, nicknamed 'Vic', 38 - jailed for 15 years 

- Nasarat Hussain, nicknamed 'Nurse', 30 - jailed for 17 years

-  Sajid Hussain, nicknamed 'Fish' 33 - jailed for 17 years

- Mohammed Irfraz, nicknamed 'Faj' 30 - jailed for six years

- Faisal Nadeem, nicknamed 'Chiller' 32 - jailed for 12 years

- Mohammed Azeem, nicknamed 'Mosabella', 33 - jailed for 18 years

- Manzoor Hassan, nicknamed 'Big Manny' 38 - jailed for five years

- Niaz Ahmed, 54, nicknamed 'Shaq' - to be sentenced on November 1

- Mohammed Imran Ibrar, nicknamed 'Bully', 34 - to be sentenced on November 1

- Asif Bashir, nicknamed 'Junior', 33 - sentenced November 1

- Mohammed Akram, nicknamed 'Kid' 33 - to be sentenced on November 1




I see they are almost exclusively Pakistani moslims again... the main one is said to be Sikh, but says in article that he only converted to being Sikh 5 years ago... so what's the betting that he is really just another Pakistani moslim...?
Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

Even now the number of men charged and jailed are a tiny amount in comparison to the thousands  who have used these girls young kids and passed them round to their friends and families.

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Yep... 10000 children in Rotherham alone...

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Another place to add to the growing list.

SKIPTON
ROTHERHAM
SHEFFIELD
BLACKPOOL
OXFORD
HALIFAX
BRADFORD
IPSWICH
LONDON
TELFORD
PRESTON
DERBY
TORBAY
BRISTOL
BANBURY
CHESHAM
BARKING
BIRMINGHAM
BLACKBURN
ROCHDALE
LEEDS
STOCKPORT
AYLESBURY
YEOVIL
NEWCASTLE
BURTON
ACCRINGTON
ORMSKIRK
KEIGHLEY
MANCHESTER
OLDHAM
PETERBOROUGH
DEWSBURY
LITTLEHAMPTON
MIDDLESBOROUGH
SLOUGH

HUDDERFIELD.

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Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

Even now the number of men charged and jailed are a tiny amount in comparison to the thousands who have used these girls young kids and passed them round to their friends and families.

As didge would say, Fine men, who are having their lives, families and careers ruined by these uncorroborated accusations!

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Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

Even now the number of men charged and jailed are a tiny amount in comparison to the thousands  who have used these girls young kids and passed them round to their friends and families.

As didge would say, Fine men, who are having their lives, families and careers ruined by these uncorroborated accusations!


Fine men?

They have been convicted through legal procedures.

Seriously, do not make false claims, I have not stated. You reach new lows Quil with such nonsense, but this is what you always do. Lie

These men were rightluy convicted through a mass of corroborating evidence

Something you seem to fail to understand

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Didge wrote:They have been convicted through legal procedures.

They have not been convicted. As Syl underscores, they "are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls...." just like Mr. Kavanaugh, "without police and authorities doing anything about them."

Y'all have been ruining the reputations of some fine men.

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Didge wrote:They have been convicted through legal procedures.

They have not been convicted.  As Syl underscores, they "are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls...." just like Mr. Kavanaugh, "without police and authorities doing anything about them."

Y'all have been ruining the reputations of some fine men.


They have been convicted and many of them have been sentenced. All based on corroborating evidence

For you to use this case, where the evidence is overwhelming, really shows you are using this to again score political points

I find that appalling

Dr Ford, had not a single person corroborate her claims to even be at the party, she claimed to have attended

What has since been knonw, is that she deleted her accounts on twitter and facebook, before she brought said claims on Judge kavanagh

Maybe you can explain that Quill?

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Didge wrote:They have been convicted and many of them have been sentenced. All based on corroborating evidence

If you repeat the misrepresentation, all I can do is repeat the answer:

Original Quill wrote:They have not been convicted. As Syl underscores, they "are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls...." just like Mr. Kavanaugh, "without police and authorities doing anything about them."

Y'all have been ruining the reputations of some fine men.

Perhaps you have another ax to grind with them?

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Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:They have been convicted and many of them have been sentenced. All based on corroborating evidence

If you repeat the misrepresentation, all I can do is repeat the answer:

Original Quill wrote:They have not been convicted.  As Syl underscores, they "are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls...." just like Mr. Kavanaugh, "without police and authorities doing anything about them."

Y'all have been ruining the reputations of some fine men.

Perhaps you have another ax to grind with them?


Who would not have an axe to grind where men have been convicted of raping children?

Maybe you can explain that to me?

What I would like to know is how and poorly so. You compare this case of rape and abuse to a liar, called Dr Ford, who had even her own best friend not corroborate her claim to be at a party,. She claimed to have been sexually assualted. Even worse this Dr Ford admits she left her friend alone with these so called sexul abusers at this party?

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Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

Even now the number of men charged and jailed are a tiny amount in comparison to the thousands  who have used these girls young kids and passed them round to their friends and families.

As didge would say, Fine men, who are having their lives, families and careers ruined by these uncorroborated accusations!

I doubt Didge would say any such thing.
The men have been charged, stood trial and jailed....the only ones who have been charged and not imprisoned are the ones where the cases were dropped by the police or the CPS because the girls were not believed or judged to be unreliable witnesses.....turns out the girls were very believable, and a blind eye was being turned because of fears that police and authorities would be seen as racist.
The irony is these crimes are racist....and people in authority are now standing up and saying so.

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Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

As didge would say, Fine men, who are having their lives, families and careers ruined by these uncorroborated accusations!

I doubt Didge would say any such thing.
The men have been charged, stood trial and jailed....the only ones who have been charged and not imprisoned are the ones where the cases were dropped by the police or the CPS because the girls were not believed or judged to be unreliable witnesses.....turns out the girls were very believable, and a blind eye was being turned because of fears that police and authorities would be seen as racist.
The irony is these crimes are racist....and people in authority are now standing up and saying so.


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Didge wrote:
Syl wrote:

I doubt Didge would say any such thing.
The men have been charged, stood trial and jailed....the only ones who have been charged and not imprisoned are the ones where the cases were dropped by the police or the CPS because the girls were not believed or judged to be unreliable witnesses.....turns out the girls were very believable, and a blind eye was being turned because of fears that police and authorities would be seen as racist.
The irony is these crimes are racist....and people in authority are now standing up and saying so.


Thank you Syl

You are welcome.
Quill is comparing apples with ...errr...bananas. scratch

I know your opinion on these gangs, and there is absolutely no resemblance to the case Quill is referring to.

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Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:


Thank you Syl

You are welcome.
Quill is comparing apples with ...errr...bananas.  scratch

I know your opinion on these gangs, and there is absolutely no resemblance to the case Quill is referring to.


I know and you certinaly know the morality here and to use this as he does is poor

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You have changed your story, Syl. I was referring to your post:

Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

I won't embarrass you by asking you the standard cross-examination question: 'Were you lying to the jury then, or are you lying to the jury now?' But clearly, you have changed your story. At some time they were not being charged by "police and authorities".

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Original Quill wrote:You have changed your story, Syl.  I was referring to your post:

Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

I won't embarrass you by asking you the standard cross-examination question: 'Were you lying to the jury then, or are you lying to the jury now?'  But clearly, you have changed your story.  At some time they were not being charged by "police and authorities".


She never changed any story and you are simple second guessing on this case

So lets put this to the test

Have you actually read the evidence of this case?

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:07 pm

This truley shows up the warped and quite perverse nature of Quill

Here we hve overwhelming evidence to convict countless men that have raped children and he uses this to compare to some Democrat activist caught out lying. As if they are comparable

Its beyond disgusting

Dr Ford, has been shown to have deleted her twitter and facebooks accounts before hs emade any claims. Why is that?

To remove any hint of bias

Why would anyone remove any hint of bias?

because they simple made up the story and even more, when her own friend, discounted the claim she made

Now whilst I think Judge Kavannugh should never have been a supreme judge. This is based on political reasoning. Not made up and political bullshit,. that was a campaign by the Democrats, that will cost them in elections in November. Its why I have respect for Ben, but have no time for liars like Quill

Dr Ford lied and for political reasons. Nobody has backed her story and yet idiots like Quill simple believe her, not based on any facts but simple based on hate of Republicans

Its now why I will put my heart and soul behind the Republican cause, as fuck him

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Original Quill wrote:You have changed your story, Syl.  I was referring to your post:

Syl wrote:Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with raping and grooming underage white girls....there is a list on this forum of the towns and cities these gangs have been operating in, many for decades, without police and authorities doing anything about them until relatively recently.

I won't embarrass you by asking you the standard cross-examination question: 'Were you lying to the jury then, or are you lying to the jury now?'  But clearly, you have changed your story.  At some time they were not being charged by "police and authorities".

And I have explained in a previous post why.

To clarify the situation though for anyone (maybe they live under a stone) who is not now familiar with the Pakistani Muslim gangs who have preyed on young white girls throughout the UK for decades, I should have said.. "Every few months another pack of Pakistani Muslim men are charged with, stand trial, and are imprisoned for raping and grooming underage white girls".

Hope thats cleared up your confusion.

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Original Quill wrote:You have changed your story, Syl.  I was referring to your post:



I won't embarrass you by asking you the standard cross-examination question: 'Were you lying to the jury then, or are you lying to the jury now?'  But clearly, you have changed your story.  At some time they were not being charged by "police and authorities".


She never changed any story and you are simple second guessing on this case

So lets put this to the test

Have you actually read the evidence of this case?

Thank you, I never change my story about these gangs. I live next to a town that suffered abuse like the case in the OP for years before anyone was charged and eventually jailed.
Quill is just being slippery....just like a lawyer. Rolling Eyes

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Syl wrote:Thank you, I never change my story about these gangs.

You just did. If I'm being slippery, you are being slimy.

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Syl wrote:Thank you, I never change my story about these gangs.

You just did.  If I'm being slippery, you are being slimy.
I didnt change my story Quill, you are just looking for loopholes to back up your ridiculous comparison which insults any posters intelligence if they bother to read this thread. Rolling Eyes



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Syl wrote:
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She never changed any story and you are simple second guessing on this case

So lets put this to the test

Have you actually read the evidence of this case?

Thank you, I never change my story about these gangs. I live next to a town that suffered abuse like the case in the OP for years before anyone was charged and eventually jailed.
Quill is just being slippery....just like a lawyer. Rolling Eyes

Its odd, he claims to be a lawyer and a judge

How many people trust such people?

Quill does them no favours does he?

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Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You just did.  If I'm being slippery, you are being slimy.
I didnt change my story Quill, you are just looking for loopholes to back up your ridiculous comparison which insults any posters intelligence if they bother to read this thread.  Rolling Eyes

The words are there. I've just quoted them. You've changed your story.

And like all stories with a cultural component (Asians), stories change to fit the discomfort.

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I didnt change my story Quill, you are just looking for loopholes to back up your ridiculous comparison which insults any posters intelligence if they bother to read this thread.  Rolling Eyes

The words are there.  I've just quoted them.  You've changed your story.

And like all stories with a cultural component (Asians), stories change to fit the discomfort.

Yes OK. Rolling Eyes

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Syl wrote:
I didnt change my story Quill, you are just looking for loopholes to back up your ridiculous comparison which insults any posters intelligence if they bother to read this thread.  Rolling Eyes

The words are there.  I've just quoted them.  You've changed your story.

And like all stories with a cultural component (Asians), stories change to fit the discomfort.


Nothing to do with the sterotype of Asians

Just Pakistani men, raping young white girls

Or is that okay on the left wing communist world of Quill?

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Post by Syl on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:30 pm

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Syl wrote:

Thank you, I never change my story about these gangs. I live next to a town that suffered abuse like the case in the OP for years before anyone was charged and eventually jailed.
Quill is just being slippery....just like a lawyer. Rolling Eyes

Its odd, he claims to be a lawyer and a judge

How many people trust such people?

Quill does them no favours does he?

No....but maybe he could peruse the list of towns and cities where these gangs have operated and been charged, found guilty and jailed so far. It seems to me he obviously doesnt have much idea of what he is talking about.

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Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:

Its odd, he claims to be a lawyer and a judge

How many people trust such people?

Quill does them no favours does he?

No....but maybe he could peruse the list of towns and cities where these gangs have operated and been charged, found guilty and jailed so far. It seems to me he  obviously doesnt have much idea of what he is talking about.


That is becuase he is only interested in the political views of the victims

To0 me, that is as worrying, as was Kavannugh, becoming a supreme court Judge

I would not trust either to provide a fair hearing, as they place polictics first

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Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The words are there.  I've just quoted them.  You've changed your story.

And like all stories with a cultural component (Asians), stories change to fit the discomfort.


Nothing to do with the sterotype of Asians

Just Pakistani men, raping young white girls

Or is that okay on the left wing communist world of Quill?

I also think the blanket term 'Asian' is quite insulting.

No Chinese, Japanese, etc etc... and very few Indians have been involved in these gangs.
Its a cultural thing and unfortunately centres round Pakistani men...…..and just to add, its a minority of Pakistani men, but it's doing every other Asian a disservice to call these gangs Asian imo.

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Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:


Nothing to do with the sterotype of Asians

Just Pakistani men, raping young white girls

Or is that okay on the left wing communist world of Quill?

I also think the blanket term 'Asian' is quite insulting.

No Chinese, Japanese, etc etc... and very few Indians have been involved in these gangs.
Its a cultural thing and unfortunately centres round Pakistani men...…..and just to add, its a minority  of Pakistani men, but it's doing every other Asian a disservice to call these gangs Asian imo.


Ahhhh but speaking sense is racist to quill. No matter how you are rightly not associating many asian people to this crime

Leftist idiots classify anyone of non-white skin as victims, even when here they are rapists and do so with a racist intent

I seriously dispair at the left with this, as even Muslims girls have also been raped

But as seen Quill, are resident make belief lawyer will back any criminal, as long, ss they have a darker shade of skin

It shows the insanity of their reasoning and even Dr Martin Luther King, would turn in his grave at Quills views

As Quill is essentially racist

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Didge wrote:
Syl wrote:

I also think the blanket term 'Asian' is quite insulting.

No Chinese, Japanese, etc etc... and very few Indians have been involved in these gangs.
Its a cultural thing and unfortunately centres round Pakistani men...…..and just to add, its a minority  of Pakistani men, but it's doing every other Asian a disservice to call these gangs Asian imo.


Ahhhh but speaking sense is racist to quill. No matter how you are rightly not associating many asian people to this crime

Leftist idiots classify anyone of non-white skin as victims, even when here they are rapists and do so with a racist intent

I seriously dispair at the left with this, as even Muslims girls have also been raped

But as seen Quill, are resident make belief lawyer will back any criminal, as long, ss they have a darker shade of skin

It shows the insanity of their reasoning and even Dr Martin Luther King, would turn in his grave at Quills views

As Quill is essentially racist

Quill sometimes seems racist against whites to me.
Obviously we dont live in Quills shoes.
People judge from their own experiences...they may see things we dont which colour their views, it's still wrong to generalise though.

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Post by magica on Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:55 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:


Nothing to do with the sterotype of Asians

Just Pakistani men, raping young white girls

Or is that okay on the left wing communist world of Quill?

I also think the blanket term 'Asian' is quite insulting.

No Chinese, Japanese, etc etc... and very few Indians have been involved in these gangs.
Its a cultural thing and unfortunately centres round Pakistani men...…..and just to add, its a minority  of Pakistani men, but it's doing every other Asian a disservice to call these gangs Asian imo.

I agree Syl, Asian is too much of a blanket term. These scum were Pakistanis, and they deliberately targeted underage white girls.

They're also racist, because they wouldn't do it to their own but think it's ok with white girls as they see them as slags.

Vile excuses for humans. I hope prison metes out their own type of justice on these vile rapists, paedophiles.
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magica wrote:
Syl wrote:

I also think the blanket term 'Asian' is quite insulting.

No Chinese, Japanese, etc etc... and very few Indians have been involved in these gangs.
Its a cultural thing and unfortunately centres round Pakistani men...…..and just to add, its a minority  of Pakistani men, but it's doing every other Asian a disservice to call these gangs Asian imo.

I agree Syl, Asian is too much of a blanket term. These scum were Pakistanis, and they deliberately targeted underage white girls.

They're also racist, because they wouldn't do it to their own but think it's ok with white girls as they see them as slags.

Vile excuses for humans. I hope prison metes out their own type of justice on these vile rapists, paedophiles.

The men who act like this towards young white girls dont treat their own girls in the same way thats true, that is they dont groom them and pass them round to family and friends like pieces of meat, but they dont treat their own girls well either.
How can men who have such disregard and contempt for females act in any other way?
I have read some accounts of how the wives and daughters of such men are treated....and it's pretty horrendous...and usually kept hidden.

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Many Pakistanis treat women with contempt as do Indian men.

They're just there for the men. Disgusting imo.
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magica wrote:Many Pakistanis treat women with contempt as do Indian men.

They're just there for the men. Disgusting imo.


I have never found that with Indian men, Magica. So no idea where you get to cast them this way.

Espically Sikh men. They were one of the first to highlight the very problem of grooming gangs, where Pkistani men were targeting Sikh girls. Sadly they were ignored in the 1980's


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This is  30 years ago and it shows how nobody was listening

What this also dispells is how some think its only white girls, that were targeted

Clearly and sadly, any ethnicity was fair game, to these sick fucks

Looking back at this, people must hold their heads in shame, how they never listened to the Sikhs. When they were spelling out this problem of Muslim Pakistani grooming gangs

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magica wrote:Many Pakistanis treat women with contempt as do Indian men.

They're just there for the men. Disgusting imo.


I have never found that with Indian men, Magica. So no idea where you get to cast them this way.

Espically Sikh men. They were one of the first to highlight the very problem of grooming gangs, where Pkistani men were targeting Sikh girls. Sadly they were ignored in the 1980's


My next door neighbours are Indian, the husband and dad is a mild mannered man who treats everyone with huge respect.
Their three grown up sons, and every other Indian man I have met (limited amount I know) are also very respectful towards women.

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Get the Facts on Internalized, Horizontal, and Reverse Racism

By Nadra Kareem Nittle
September 19, 2018

What is racism, really? The word is thrown around all the time today by people of color and whites alike. Use of the term racism has become so popular that it’s spun off related terms such as reverse racism, horizontal racism, and internalized racism.

Defining Racism
Let’s start by examining the most basic definition of racism—the dictionary meaning. According to the American Heritage College Dictionary, racism has two meanings. This resource first defines racism as, “The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others” and secondly as, “Discrimination or prejudice based on race.”

Examples of the first definition abound throughout history. When slavery was practiced in the United States, blacks were not only considered inferior to whites but regarded as property instead of human beings. During the 1787 Philadelphia Convention, it was agreed that slaves were to be considered three-fifths people for purposes of taxation and representation. Generally speaking during slavery, blacks were deemed intellectually inferior to whites.

This notion persists in pockets of modern-day America.

In 1994, a book called The Bell Curve posited that genetics were to blame for African Americans' traditionally lower scoring than whites on intelligence tests. The book was attacked by everyone from New York Times columnist Bob Herbert, who argued that social factors were responsible for the differential, to Stephen Jay Gould who argued that the authors made conclusions unsupported by scientific research.

In 2007, Nobel Prize-winning geneticist James Watson ignited similar controversy when he suggested that blacks were less intelligent than whites.

Discrimination Today
Sadly, racism persists in modern society as well, most often taking the form of discrimination. Case in point: Black unemployment has traditionally soared above white unemployment for decades. On the surface, this begs the question, "Do blacks simply not take the initiative that whites do to find work?" Digging deeper, we discover studies indicating that, in actuality, discrimination contributes to the black-white unemployment gap.

In 2003, researchers at the University of Chicago and MIT released a study involving 5,000 fake resumes, finding that 10 percent of resumes featuring “Caucasian-sounding” names were called back compared to just 6.7 percent of resumes featuring “black-sounding” names. Moreover, resumes featuring names such as Tamika and Aisha were called back just 5 and 2 percent of the time. The skill level of the faux black candidates made no impact on callback rates.

Can Minorities Be Racist?
Because racial minorities born in the U.S. have spent lifetimes in a society which traditionally values whites lives over theirs, they are as likely to believe in the superiority of whites, themselves.

It’s also worth noting that in response to living in a racially stratified society, people of color sometimes complain about whites. Typically, such complaints serve as coping mechanisms to withstand racism rather than actual anti-white bias. Even when minorities express or practice prejudice against whites, they lack the institutional power to adversely affect whites’ lives.

Internalized Racism and Horizontal Racism
Internalized racism exhibits as a minority believing, perhaps even unconsciously, that whites are superior.

A highly publicized example of this is a 1940 study devised by Dr. Kenneth and Mamie to pinpoint the negative psychological effects of segregation on young black children. Given the choice between dolls completely identical in every way except for their color, the black children disproportionately chose the latter, often even going so far as to refer to the dark-skinned dolls with derision and epithets.

In 2005, teen filmmaker Kiri Davis conducted a similar study, finding that 64 percent of black girls interviewed preferred white dolls. The girls attributed physical traits associated with whites, such as straighter hair, with being more desirable than traits associated with blacks.

Horizontal racism occurs when members of minority groups adopt racist attitudes toward other minority groups. An example of this would be if a Japanese American prejudged a Mexican American based on the racist stereotypes of Latinos found in mainstream culture.

Reverse Racism
“Reverse racism” refers to anti-white discrimination. It’s often used in conjunction with practices designed to help minorities, such as affirmative action.

Social programs are not the only targets generating cries of “reverse racism”. A number of prominent minorities, including the biracial President Obama, have been accused of being anti-white. Though the validity of such claims is clearly debatable, the Supreme Court continues to receive appeals seeking determinations on cases submitting the creation of white bias by affirmative action programs.

These trends indicate that as minorities continue to attain higher seats in industry, politics, and society, certain subsets of whites will cry reverse minority bias ever more urgently.

Racism Myth: Segregation Was a Southern Issue
Contrary to popular belief, integration wasn’t universally accepted in the North. While Martin Luther King Jr. managed to march relatively safely through a number of Southern towns during the civil rights movement, one city he chose not to march through for fear of violence was Cicero, Ill.

When, in 1966, activists marched without King through the Chicago suburb to address housing segregation and related problems, they were met by angry white mobs and bricks.

Similarly, when Judge W. Arthur Garrity ordered Boston city schools to integrate by busing black and white schoolchildren into each other’s neighborhoods to force compliance with the Racial Imbalance Act of 1965, bloody riots ensued.

https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-racism-2834955

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I have never found that with Indian men, Magica. So no idea where you get to cast them this way.

Espically Sikh men. They were one of the first to highlight the very problem of grooming gangs, where Pkistani men were targeting Sikh girls. Sadly they were ignored in the 1980's


My next door neighbours are Indian, the husband and dad is a mild mannered man who treats everyone with huge respect.
Their three grown up sons, and every other Indian man I have met (limited amount I know) are also very respectful towards women.


Completely agree, from all the Indian men that I have come to know over the years

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Didge wrote:
magica wrote:Many Pakistanis treat women with contempt as do Indian men.

They're just there for the men. Disgusting imo.


I have never found that with Indian men, Magica. So no idea where you get to cast them this way.

Espically Sikh men. They were one of the first to highlight the very problem of grooming gangs, where Pkistani men were targeting Sikh girls. Sadly they were ignored in the 1980's


In India girls are raped all the time, also women. Many see females for sex, nothing else. I'm not saying all men Didge.
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Racism cuts both ways...


I was out with a mate of mine to get something to eat, he is British of Indian origin and Sikh... we were with his cousin and went somewhere where they wanted to meet up with some other Indian Sikh friends of theirs who were from the other side of London... so we went to a restaurant over in Bluewater...


During the meal I overheard one of the others saying to my mate that they should all go on to somewhere else after... but he was saying 'get rid of the gora and we'll go'...


What did he mean...?


I'll tell you...


He was telling my mate to ditch ME... I was the 'gora'...


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Tommy Monk wrote:He was telling my mate to ditch ME... I was the 'gora'...

Kinda like the 'goyim' in yiddish.


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