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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:08 pm

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Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, a clinical psychologist and professor at the University of Palo Alto, just south of here, has accused Judge Brett Kavanaugh of attacking her and attempting to rape her at a party when they were younger. Judge Kavanaugh, of the DC Circuit Court, is up for an opening on the Supreme Court at present.

Both Dr. Ford and Kavanaugh attended toney private schools in Washington DC, and the schools (Boys School and Girls School) often held joint parties. At one such affair, Kavanaugh and another man kidnapped Dr. Ford, threw her into a bedroom, and on the bed attempted an sexual assault of her. Judge Kavanaugh, when younger, had acquired a reputation for drunkenness and lewd behavior when intoxicated.

The following is an article:

The Independent wrote:Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford 'receiving vicious harassment and death threats'

Emily Shugerman
The Independent•September 19, 2018

The California psychology professor who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault is reportedly receiving death threats, as Donald Trump says he will make a decision on his nominee based on her testimony.

The professor, 51-year-old Christine Blasey Ford, has accused Mr Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her at a party when they were both in high school. Mr Kavanugh has categorically denied the allegations.

In the days since Ms Blasey Ford’s name was made public, her attorneys said, her “worst fears have materialised”.

“She has been the target of vicious harassment and even death threats,” attorneys Debra Katz and Lisa Banks wrote in a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley.

“As a result of these kind of threats, her family was forced to relocate out of their home,” they added. “Her email has been hacked and she has been impersonated online.”

The attorneys asked for an FBI investigation of Ms Blasey Ford’s allegations before she was called to testify publicly in front of the Senate committee. Mr Grassley had previously scheduled a televised hearing on the allegations for Monday.

Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon said on Wednesday that it would be “wonderful” if the professor appeared in front of the committee.

“Look, if she shows up and makes a credible showing, that will be very interesting and we’ll have to make a decision,” he told reporters outside the White House.

But Ms Blasey Ford’s attorneys pushed back on the Monday deadline, saying the accuser’s life was “being turned upside down”, and chiding Mr Grassley for suggesting she relive a “traumatic and harrowing incident” at the same table as Mr Kavanaugh.

Democrats quickly spoke out in support of the professor’s wishes, saying the hearing should be delayed until a full investigation could be completed.

“That this brave woman is receiving death threats and has been forced to flee with her family is appalling and heartbreaking,” Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the judiciary committee, said in a statement. “This abuse must stop. We’re better than this.”

But Republicans were reluctant to delay the hearing, which could push a vote on Mr Kavanaugh’s confirmation until after the contentious midterm elections. Some pointed to a statement from the Justice Department that noted Ms Blasey Ford’s allegation does not concern a federal crime, and that the FBI “does not make any judgement about the credibility or significance of any allegation”.

Mr Grassley said on Tuesday that the hearing should proceed, regardless of whether or not Ms Blasey Ford decided to testify.

“The invitation for Monday still stands. Dr Ford’s testimony would reflect her personal knowledge and memory of events,” the chairman said. “Nothing the FBI or any other investigator does would have any bearing on what Dr Ford tells the committee, so there is no reason for any further delay.”

Meanwhile, in Ms Blasey Ford’s hometown of Palo Alto, a group of local mothers had gathered together to support their friend. Kirsten Leimroth, whose daughters are part of the same junior lifeguard programme as Ms Blasey Ford’s two sons, said it was “preposterous” to think the professor had invented the allegations for political reasons.

“There’s absolutely no way it’s made up. She can’t even go home,” Ms Leimroth told the Mercury News. “She had to have her kids stay somewhere else. She had to shut down all social media. Why would she do that?”

So many sexual assaults, so little time.

What is it with Donald Trump, that he is involved with so many rapes, child rapes and random sexual contacts with women? Wasn't it just last year when some 18-women told of his habit of "pussy-grabbing"? Indeed, in October, 2016, he boasted on the Access Hollywood tape how much he liked to "grab pussy".

But, it's also a part of Trump's circle of friends. Last year, Trump supported for the Alabama Senate seat, one Roy Moore, who was accused of attempted child rape earlier when he was a younger lawyer. Additionally, the White House had to terminate one Ron Porter, secretary to Mr. Trump, for not one, but two wives who came forward with claims of spousal beating...one brought pictures!!

Busy, busy.

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:52 am

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Didge wrote:Where is a single witness to corroboate the claims, to even being at either party?

They're all over the place.  Hundreds...one direct, percipient witness, and as many as 500 corroborating witnesses.

Now there is Debora Ramirez, who tells the story of Kavanaugh flashing his junk to her at a dormitory party at Yale University.  Such class, eh?

Then, Kavanaugh's roommate at Yale says that while he wasn't there at the flashing celebration, Kavanaugh had the reputation of being fiercely drunk most of the time while at Yale.  The roommate says it was the kind of thing that Brett would typically do.

So strange...the Republicans don't want to even interview them.  Wonder why?


There is not a single corroborating witness

The one you state is no friend of Kavannaugh, hence being a room mate, in his first year and admits is very good friends with Deborah and still is to this day, counts for didley, when others dispute his claims on his character. I mean do you not think its odd, that they have been friends for years and he only finds out now?

He did not witness the events

I mean even more wierd, where Deborah claims others saw this. That this did not spread like wildfire at the time through the Uni? Such things get talked about when others witness them. Espically if some tit exposes themselves. Such stories spread like wildfire and yet not a single person remembers this story or the event?

Nobody has claimed to witness the events and many people have been interviewed by the media and not have a single one to corroborate the claims.

Not one

So your claim to 500 is not only a lie

Its your seventh lie on this thread

The people mention in both cases, claimed to have been there, all state no such events happened

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:02 am

Didge wrote:There is not a single corroborating witness

Yes, there is. Hundreds of them, on both claims. There is also a percipient witness to the attempted rape of Dr. Ford. His name is Mark Judge...all you need is to put him under oath, and see how righteous he becomes.

Why do you lie? Is it a bad habit, like Kavanaugh's drinking? Evil or Very Mad

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Didge wrote:There is not a single corroborating witness

Yes, there is.  Hundreds of them, on both claims.  There is also a percipient witness to the attempted rape of Dr.  Ford.  His name is Mark Judge...all you need is to put him under oath, and see how righteous he becomes.

Why do you lie?  Is it a bad habit, like Kavanaugh's drinking?  Evil or Very Mad

Show me the evidence for your claims?

You are simple yet again lying

That is why its pathetic debating you.

I see you avoided my points again that countered yours

Hence its not even a debate

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:08 pm

I've heard all that. It amounts to nothing.

Got anything substantial? Your rapist's hearing is tomorrow.

BTW, Bill Cosby got put in prison yesterday. Seems rape is frowned upon in that neck of the woods. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:30 pm

So zero evidence for the many unfounded claims you made


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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:32 pm

Still nothing? You're no fun anymore. Razz

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:Still nothing?  You're no fun anymore. Razz

Well it gets boring when you continually lie

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:52 pm

Michael Avenatti has just made public a declaration of his client, the third accuser, Julie Sweatnic (sp?) She claims she was drugged and gang-raped by a group including Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.

She claims she was incapacitated by drugs poured into the punch, and then the subject of what the boys called a "train" rape (train of boys). She also observed Judge and Kavanaugh to become drunk and abusive toward women, including touching, pressing body, involuntarily removing clothers, and more.

We'll publish the declaration when available. This is happening as I type this.

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:01 pm

Original Quill wrote:Michael Avenatti has just made public a declaration of his client, the third accuser, Julie Sweatnic (sp?)  She claims she was drugged and gang-raped by a group including Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.

She claims she was incapacitated by drugs poured into the punch, and then the subject of what the boys called a "train" rape (train of boys).  She also observed Judge and Kavanaugh to become drunk and abusive toward women, including touching, pressing body, involuntarily removing clothers, and more.

We'll publish the declaration when available.  This is happening as I type this.

Yeah I see, yet another one, that has not a single witness

All these parties and nobody has come forward to corroborate any of them

That is staggering and seems more and more like this is a set up

I mean if she incapacitated, how can she remember who raped her?

Also why has she held this back all these years and never went to the Police over her claim they were continually spiking drinks.

Well as seen there is many holes in this claims and the more and more this comes out, the more I believe, this is a concerted effort to discredit him

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:12 pm

We've provided the witnesses we know of.  It also appears that the Senate Judiciary Committee is trying to suppress witnesses coming forward.  The evidence of the attorney's prove that.  They all say the Committee makes commitments for meetings and phone conferences, and fails to show up. They want all evidence in opposition to go away.

The availability of corroborating witnesses stresses the need for an FBI investigation.  The FBI will present an objective picture.  All the accusers want the FBI investigation; Kavanaugh and Republicans, as well as Trump, do not want the investigation.  That is significant.  What are they keeping from the public?  This is a democracy, after all.


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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:14 pm

Do you know what really concerns me about all of this and if true with the latest witness. I read she went to multiple parties and claims to have watched them drug and rape girls. Not once coming forward seeking justice for the claimed victims? She also went back to more of these parties in excess of 10 of them?

I mean who would go back after the first, knowing what has occured?

That just does not make any sense what so ever, and you would give such parties a wide birth

Why wait now?

How could anyone claiming to know girls drinks were spiked and raped, would sit on this for years saying nothing.

If true, I think that is appalling

Like I say, its very strange indeed to have 3 such cases all suddenlly come out in a matter of a week.

That seems to me very orchestrated

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:23 pm

Didge wrote:Do you know what really concerns me about all of this and if true with the latest witness. I read she went to multiple parties and claims to have watched them drug and rape girls. Not once coming forward seeking justice for the claimed victims? She also went back to more of these parties?

I mean who would, knowing what has occured?

That just does not make any sense what so ever, and you would give such parties a wide birth

Why wait now?

How could anyone claiming to know girls drinks were spiked and raped, would sit on this for years saying nothing.

If true, I think that is appalling

Like I say, its very strange indeed to have 3 such cases all suddenlly come out in a matter of a week.

That seems to me very orchestrated

You know how vulnerable young girls are. Then, after they are victims, they have to deal with the guilt...and the fact they were drugged.

Frankly, this looks like an organized sex ring, going on around this school. And Kavanaugh and Mark Judge appear to be ringleaders.

Crime within the highest circles. Where have we heard that before? Mr. 'Pussy-grabber', anything you want to add?

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Didge wrote:Do you know what really concerns me about all of this and if true with the latest witness. I read she went to multiple parties and claims to have watched them drug and rape girls. Not once coming forward seeking justice for the claimed victims? She also went back to more of these parties?

I mean who would, knowing what has occured?

That just does not make any sense what so ever, and you would give such parties a wide birth

Why wait now?

How could anyone claiming to know girls drinks were spiked and raped, would sit on this for years saying nothing.

If true, I think that is appalling

Like I say, its very strange indeed to have 3 such cases all suddenlly come out in a matter of a week.

That seems to me very orchestrated

You know how vulnerable young girls are.  Then, after they are victims, they have to deal with the guilt...and the fact they were drugged.

Frankly, this looks like an organized sex ring, going on around this school.  And Kavanaugh and Mark Judge appear to be ringleaders.

Crime within the highest circles.  Where have we heard that before?  Mr. 'Pussy-grabber', anything you want to add?

Explain to me, why she would continue to go to such parties after claiming to witness such sexual abuse, rape and drugging of girls?

Why not only once did she go back, but more than ten times?

I mean was she part of this claimed sex ring, by continually going and participating at such parties?

I mean ask any woman on here, whether they would venture again at such a party, after witnessing the men she accuses of doing this. With them being there?

I bet not one would go to such a party again with them there, and she claims to have gone to at least 10 of them.

I mean at which party does she claimed to have been raped? Did she then also still then go to more of these parties?

I mean seriously, who would go back to such parties, after claiming to be raped?

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Didge wrote:Explain to me, why she would continue to go to such parties after claiming to witness such sexual abuse, rape and drugging of girls?

Why not only once did she go back, but more than ten times?

I mean was she part of this claimed sex ring, by continually going and participating at such parties?

All good questions. I take it, you agree that there should be an FBI investigation to answer these questions. Otherwise, why would you post the questions?

Otherwise, we risk appointing a serial rapist to the US Supreme Court. We already have one in the White House. We don't want to compound the sins.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:51 pm

Didge wrote:I mean at which party does she claimed to have been raped? Did she then also still then go to more of these parties?

I believe that's all in the declaration...or will be in further testimony to the FBI. We'll see.

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Didge wrote:Explain to me, why she would continue to go to such parties after claiming to witness such sexual abuse, rape and drugging of girls?

Why not only once did she go back, but more than ten times?

I mean was she part of this claimed sex ring, by continually going and participating at such parties?

All good questions.  I take it, you agree that there should be an FBI investigation to answer these questions.  Otherwise, why would you post the questions?

Otherwise, we risk appointing a serial rapist to the US Supreme Court.  We already have one in the White House.  We don't want to compound the sins.

I take it she should bbe investigated for claiming to witnessed girls being drugged and raped and never warning a single one of these girls.

I mean she as an 18-19 year old, hanging out with younger 16-17 year old boys. Continually hung out with them  and watched, never warning any other of the girls

Does that not seem odd to you?

Yeah happy that this should be investigated. I mean, he already has had 6 FBI checks over the year and not once did any of this come up.

I mean, I think this woman is clearly lying, as how can she claim this happened and then went again and again. With never warning any of the victims and watching this happen again and again.

In other words, it simple does not ring true

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:53 pm

Didge wrote:I take it she should bbe investigated for claiming to witnessed girls being drugged and raped and never warning a single one of these girls.

Yes, the value of an FBI investigation is that they are neutral, and it is a felony to lie to them. The investigators of the FBI have one, and only one objective: to get the truth.

That is the reason why anyone wanting/asking for an FBI investigation is to be given greater deference than someone who tries to duck such an investigation...like Mark Judge. Anyone who subjects himself to legal jeopardy is far more liable to be truthful.

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Didge wrote:I mean she as an 18-19 year old, hanging out with younger 16-17 year old boys. Continually hung out with them  and watched, never warning any other of the girls

Does that not seem odd to you?

Yeah happy that this should be investigated. I mean, he already has had 6 FBI checks over the year and not once did any of this come up.

I mean, I think this woman is clearly lying, as how can she claim this happened and then went again and again. With never warning any of the victims and watching this happen again and again.

In other words, it simple does not ring true

The one sure way to find out is to have the FBI conduct an investigation.  All three accusers have asked for such an investigation.  Dr. Ford has already taken and passed a polygraph test.  The other two are willing.  Only Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge don't want to take a lie detector test.

An FBI investigation would get to the truth.  But Mr. Kavanaugh and the Senate Judiciary Committee don't want the FBI involved.  What are they afraid of?  What are they hiding?

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Didge wrote:I mean she as an 18-19 year old, hanging out with younger 16-17 year old boys. Continually hung out with them  and watched, never warning any other of the girls

Does that not seem odd to you?

Yeah happy that this should be investigated. I mean, he already has had 6 FBI checks over the year and not once did any of this come up.

I mean, I think this woman is clearly lying, as how can she claim this happened and then went again and again. With never warning any of the victims and watching this happen again and again.

In other words, it simple does not ring true

The one sure way to find out is to have the FBI conduct an investigation.  All three accusers have asked for such an investigation.  Dr. Ford has already taken and passed a polygraph test.  The other two are willing.  Only Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge don't want to take a lie detector test.

An FBI investigation would get to the truth.  But Mr. Kavanaugh and the Senate Judiciary Committee don't want the FBI involved.  What are they afraid of?  What are they hiding?

I look forward to an investigation and I would start by questioning why this new witness, never went to help a single girl she claims, were drugged, raped and sexually abused at countless parties.

Also have you read her declaration?

She does not even accuse Judge Kavanaugh of anything, other than standing in a line outside a room and being present at some of these parties.

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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:34 pm

I thought Lie detectors were not reliable ?
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Post by gelico on Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:06 pm




Michael Avenatti is getting roasted on twitter


the majority of people saying this sucks and they dont believe a word of it and furthermore, how disrespectful this is to genuine survivors of rape/sexual abuse

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:43 am

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The one sure way to find out is to have the FBI conduct an investigation.  All three accusers have asked for such an investigation.  Dr. Ford has already taken and passed a polygraph test.  The other two are willing.  Only Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge don't want to take a lie detector test.

An FBI investigation would get to the truth.  But Mr. Kavanaugh and the Senate Judiciary Committee don't want the FBI involved.  What are they afraid of?  What are they hiding?

I look forward to an investigation and I would start by questioning why this new witness, never went to help a single girl she claims, were drugged, raped and sexually abused at countless parties.

I look forward to the investigation, too.

As to helping helping other girls, did you ever consider that she was drugged too? Or, that a gang of boys could beat the shit out of one, teen-aged girl?

More than that, why would that be your concern and not the suitability of Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court?  Why are you asking all of the questions except whether this is a bad hombre or not?  I don't understand your avoidance of the fundamental question.

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:54 am

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Michael Avenatti is getting roasted on twitter

the majority of people saying this sucks and they dont believe a word of it and furthermore, how disrespectful this is to genuine survivors of rape/sexual abuse

Maybe, or maybe not. Could be Russian bots, too.

But Twitter is not the authority in these matters. Avenatti has done what the whole Federal Government has been unable to do. That is, to single-handledly bring Donald Trump to his knees.

His white knight appearance, on the eve of the hearing--totally professional, and with a signed declaration, which is the first evidence under oath in this whole latter affair--was brilliant. The Republicans will either have to give in and allow the FBI to investigate, or they will lose every election for the next 50-years. People are sick and tired of this Republican power shit...my way or the highway.

Time for the grown-ups to take over.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:45 am

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I look forward to an investigation and I would start by questioning why this new witness, never went to help a single girl she claims, were drugged, raped and sexually abused at countless parties.

I look forward to the investigation, too.

As to helping helping other girls, did you ever consider that she was drugged too?  Or, that a gang of boys could beat the shit out of one, teen-aged girl?

More than that, why would that be your concern and not the suitability of Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court?  Why are you asking all of the questions except whether this is a bad hombre or not?  I don't understand your avoidance of the fundamental question.  


You mean the fundemental question, being how they all waited 35 years until he gets put forward for nomination?

How all 3 have so far nobody that cororborates their stories?

How the last claim, has not even provided the names of any of the other victims she claimed were drugged and raped?

How she claimed to have watched and never did anything to warn any other girls at the parties or outside of this? How she then continually went to more of these parties?

Yeah, I think many people see and understand bullshit, when they see it

I also understand this Michael Avenatti is planning to run for President in 2020

There is your motivation

I mean all the media sources have been investigating all three claims and none have found the smoking gun to to these claims. Nor anyone who can corrorborate them

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:30 pm

The Senate Judiciary Committee interviewed two men who said they, not Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, attacked Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who has accused the judge of sexual assaulting her when they were in high school, according to a timeline released Wednesday that covers how the committee responded to the allegations of sexual misconduct.

The timeline, released the night before Ford and Kavanaugh are set to publicly testify in front of the committee, reveals that between Sept. 24 and Sept. 26, two men claimed to be responsible for “the encounter” with Ford “that is the basis of her allegation.” Ford said Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed, covered her mouth and tried to remove her clothes at a house party in 1982. Two other women have also come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh. The judge has denied claims by all three women.

http://time.com/5408094/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-two-men-claim-attack/

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You can watch the hearing on the above live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVOkb3CdZ0

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:43 pm

Dr. Ford's testimony was superb.  Understandably nervous, she nevertheless testified in a methodical and detailed way.

Kavanaugh has categorically denied the event, as what else can he do?  So he is unable to provide any details.  All he does is, deny, deny, lie, deny, with a derisive sneer.  Then he delivers his resume, orally.

Interesting, deny is just what Donald Trump says he does, generally, in the face of the 18 accusers who accuse him.  Trump has the unfortunate problem of having to pay off his accusers, and his attorney confirms he is a co-conspirator.  No doubt, plenty more abused women the wings, waiting to tell their story.

How does Trump come to appoint a co-abuser of women to the Supreme Court? One gets the picture that there is some sort of porn-watch group of men, that meets weekly in the basement of the White House, and gawfas over pictures of nude women. They drink, laugh and chant “pussy, pussy, pussy”. Then Trump picks the one with the best laugh, to appoint for the Supreme Court.


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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:47 pm

Well her four people she claimed were there, state otherwise


So that leaves her story shaky and no matter how great a performance, its simple down to who is believed

What I found interesting is how the Democrats held onto this and never brought this forward to the Senate committee until right before he was going to be nominated

Hence why the Prosecuting lawyer, was very clever in picking flaws in this and how why they never did what i stated much earlier

To take her to someone who could help through a one to one, bring back memories of this details

The Democrats failed to do that. Failed to provide video evidence of the lie detector and the actual graphs which was odd.

Many failings by the democrats

What never was asked, when she was questioned at being at other parties was his conduct. She said okay with her at other parties, but never said whether he was the same at other parties towards other girls. That would have been telling

Its her word against his, its as simple as that

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:55 pm

Didge wrote:Well her four people she claimed were there, state otherwise

No, they don't.  They state that they don't remember.  What would you say if you didn't want to become involved?

The woman named 'Leland Kaiser' has severe medical conditions, that make her reluctant to testify.

As for the rest, particularly Mark Judge, they haven't been cross examined under oath, so we don't even have opportunity to test his lapse of memory.  Keep in mind, he told the story in graphic detail to his girlfriend at Catholic University.


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Didge wrote:Well her four people she claimed were there, state otherwise

No, they don't.  They state that they don't remember.  What would you say if you didn't want to become involved?

The woman named 'Leslie" has severe medical conditions, that make her reluctant to testify.


So they disagree with her claim

Your claim to not want to be involved is subjective

The reality is they have no idea what she is talking about

What was also never questioned and I was astounded it did not come up. Was they said that Judge and Brett locked the door.

How did they lock the door?

With a key or slide lock?

How did she get out, if the door was locked?

That sounds very sketchy

The next part also seems odd, that nobody would remember.

She said she ran out of the house, after being in the toilet, going past the living room area. That is where everyone was.

That would be something people would remember and one is her friend

Surely this friend would remember this she states in the statement and yet she does not remember.

That is something any friend would ask after the event

Not one person claims to remember her running out of a house at a party

Hence her story has holes

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:15 pm

I'm watching the testimony of Kavanaugh, on TV as I post. He has fallen apart (anger and crying) under testimony of the first Democrat, who is Diane Feinstein, minority leader on the committee. Has to take a break. Is he cracking?

I'll keep you posted.

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Original Quill wrote:I'm watching the testimony of Kavanaugh, on TV as I post.  He has fallen apart (anger and crying) under testimony of the first Democrat, who is Diane Feinstein, minority leader on the committee.  Has to take a break.  Is he cracking?

I'll keep you posted.


I am watching this myself and see the complete opposite to you

I see a man rightly angered at these attacks to his integrity

So need to keep me posted, hence why I posted the link to the live feed

Doh

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:50 pm

Senator Lindsey Graham flips out.  He's such a feces worm.

So, in response to the detailed and careful testimony of Dr. Ford, both Kavanaugh and Graham offer only emotional outburst.  We're seating a S.Ct. justice on the basis of outbursts???

Government has really gone downhill under the Republicans.


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Original Quill wrote:Senator Lindsey Graham flips out.  He's such a feces worm.

So, in response to the detailed and careful testimony of Dr. Ford, both Kavanaugh and Graham offer only emotional outburst.  We're seating a S.Ct. justice on the basis of outbursts.

Government has really gone downhill under the Republicans.


He was great and called out the Democrats, for their underhanded behaviour, where they could have put this to the senate committee 3 weeks previously

They held onto this information and Dr Ford, wanted this to be confidential. The Democrats basically used her and failed to keep this confidential

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPjXPatyEM





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Post by Original Quill on Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:26 pm

It appears that, after frequently breaks, Kavanaugh has been counselled by handlers to filibuster.

For those who don't know, a Senator has 5-minutes to ask questions. If a witness is really doing poorly, he will try to take up as much of an adverse Senator's time as he can by redirecting the question and speaking about minutiae, anecdotes and nonsense. It's a well known trick.

What it tells us is that Kavanaugh has run out of ammunition. He has tried evasion, anger, self-righteousness, and now he is simply clogging the drain. Such a step down from Dr. Ford.

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The hearing is over.  If I had one word for each, it would be Dr. Ford = compassion; Kavanaugh = belligerence.  In this case, the pattern is a sloppy drunk, who is uncaring and insensitive.

Kavanaugh was acting like drunks I have known...anger and a temper tantrum.  When drunks are challenged, they get just as belligerent and out-of-control, with crying and outbursts, seeking sympathy, and resenting criticism.  I have defended drunks, and investigated their conduct.  He's a drunk!!

Drunks and drinking are largely behind female/spousal abuse.  Therein lies the key.  Drunks beat their wives, and then cry and moan that they should be given the benefit of the doubt.  The pattern is deny, cry and attack, then turn it around and make himself the victim. A strategy of drunks everywhere. That's what we have seen here.


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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:34 am

Think what you like Quill, its normally bias hateful made up crap. My estimation of the Democrats has gone down massively after this and think they are now no better than Trump and the Republicans

How they could have Senate Committee meetings with Brett previously, with them witholding information they knew. Which should have been brought up then investigated. Then to go against Dr Ford's wishes to remain confidential and have this leaked. Placing her and Brett receiving such abuse online with threats, ruining both their lives. Shows the appalling nature and lenghs the Democrats went to discredit this judge. They have now basiclly ruined this mans life and hers. Where he could very well be innocent of any the charges, but its been made a trial by the media. Orchestrated by the Democrats

I do not even agree with this judges political views, in fact I stand against many of them. What I saw here was the most unethical actions by the apparantly progressive party. The Democrats

There is no way to verify the claim made, as again the statements of the witnesses all deny this

What a sham that hearing was

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Didge wrote:Think what you like Quill, its normally bias hateful made up crap. My estimation of the Democrats has gone down massively after this and think they are now no better than Trump and the Republicans

Well, frankly didge...remember what Les said about divisiveness?  You are not helping him.  It's, too the walls for you.  Reinvent the rules.  Change the language--pussy grabbers all, unite in opposition.

Yes, you hate the Democrats.  And they don't warm to you or your ilk.  Face it, divisiveness is here to stay.  As I've said many times, the cops don't unite to help the robbers.

Politics in the US today is about power.  Democrats are not responsible ... that is why they are called snowflakes.  They didn't see it coming, and as a result they are considered (pardon the pun) 'pussies'.  Republicans, and in particular, Trump, took the game to all out tribal warfare, where you are perfectly comfortable.

Amid all of this, I am the gentle stranger.  Amid southern cops murdering black men...amid appointees to the Supreme Court getting drunk and abusing women...I am simply saying, let's amicably part ways.  I'm sure you wouldn't like me, and I sure don't like you. Let's get a divorce.

The simple resolution is to go our separate ways.  Let the west coast go as the Pacific States of America.  But no, didge, you represent the OJ Simpsons of the world, if you won't love us, we'll kill you!!  That's the wrong path for unity. If Nicole Simpson had reconciled with OJ under those parameters, she would have been consumed by the power implicit in the one-sided demand.

Les, you of all people should recognize what's going on. There can be no unity when the overriding motive is power.

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Lindsey Graham explodes in a drunken rage.



Tut-tut Lindsey, lay off the sauce on a weekday.  Southern drunk.

What's all this rush to a vote.  There's no deadline.  Still plenty of time for an investigation, after which we can go to a vote.  Time is not an issue.

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Yeah, I saw. It doesn't say anything. An FBI investigation would dig behind that facade in a New York minute. The Republicans on the committee don't want to know, hence we will have a drunken rapist, possibly a wife beater, on the Supreme Court.

Did you see the Fox News interview of Kavanaugh? He shut his wife up, just like Trump did to Melania on the day of the inauguration. Alcohol? Women? Abuse? I'm seeing a pattern here.






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Richard Vinneccy said he does not believe Julie Swetnick is telling the truth

Vinneccy said he has 'lots of facts and evidence' but has yet to disclose them

Filed a restraining order against Swetnick in 2001 after they broke up in Miami

The restraining order was dismissed just 13 days later by the Miami-Dade court

Martin Swetnick has had almost no contact with his daughter for the last decade

Swetnick, 55, is the third woman to accuse Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6212957/Julie-Swetnicks-ex-reveals-filed-restraining-order-against-her.html

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Schirpo? Meh...never heard of him.


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Didge wrote:Richard Vinneccy said he does not believe Julie Swetnick is telling the truth

Vinneccy said he has 'lots of facts and evidence' but has yet to disclose them

Filed a restraining order against Swetnick in 2001 after they broke up in Miami

The restraining order was dismissed just 13 days later by the Miami-Dade court

Martin Swetnick has had almost no contact with his daughter for the last decade

Swetnick, 55, is the third woman to accuse Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6212957/Julie-Swetnicks-ex-reveals-filed-restraining-order-against-her.html

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Didge wrote:
Didge wrote:Richard Vinneccy said he does not believe Julie Swetnick is telling the truth

Vinneccy said he has 'lots of facts and evidence' but has yet to disclose them

Filed a restraining order against Swetnick in 2001 after they broke up in Miami

The restraining order was dismissed just 13 days later by the Miami-Dade court

Martin Swetnick has had almost no contact with his daughter for the last decade

Swetnick, 55, is the third woman to accuse Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6212957/Julie-Swetnicks-ex-reveals-filed-restraining-order-against-her.html

So you agree. We need an FBI investigation into all four incidents of Kavanaugh's alleged rapes and altercations. And why not. Time is not of the essence.

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