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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:06 am

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OKTOBERFEST, the weeks-long German celebration dating back to the 1800s, is known for beer, Bavarian food and parades, but recently it has become recognised for something else — scantily clad women.
At least that’s how some Germans feel, and Australians are among the worst offenders, Fox News reports.
In a newspaper interview, a Munich-based crime author accused tourists of poorly imitating dirndls, traditional Bavarian clothing worn by women during Oktoberfest.
“With the young women it often looks like porno dresses, short and low-cut and cheap material,” he told The Times.
“It has nothing to do with identity.”
According to reports, more people than ever have started wearing traditional Bavarian outfits to the world’s most popular beer festival.
Franz Thalhammer, 70, a former chairman of Munich’s Georgenstoana Baierbrunn folk group, called out Australian and Italian tourists specifically for sexualising the uniform.
“A dirndl is something nice — it can make almost anyone pretty. But some of the dresses you see these days are crazy,” he said.
“You go in a tent and it’s full of paralytic Australians and Italians and they’ve forked out €250 ($400) for a complete Bavarian outfit and think they’re Bavarians. It’s as if I’d walk around half naked and say I’m Australian.”

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:39 pm

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eddie wrote:Well then we are back to Muslims and I’ve already said that I have no problem at all, with the burkha.

I have no problem with the burkha, I only have a problem around the belief that indoctrinates women to believe they have to wear, through fear. Or men and a society that forces them to wear.

Understandable. I get that.
But you also have to remember, many Muslim women want to wear them, for the rights reasons for them.

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:48 am

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:

I have no problem with the burkha, I only have a problem around the belief that indoctrinates women to believe they have to wear, through fear. Or men and a society that forces them to wear.

Understandable. I get that.
But you also have to remember, many Muslim  women want to wear them, for the rights reasons for them.

But do they, unless without the belief?

Can you see my point, as how many Non-salafist Muslims or non-Muslims wear the burka? (only a hundred or so Ultra orthodox religious Jews in Jerusalem)

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:17 am

Didge wrote:
eddie wrote:

Understandable. I get that.
But you also have to remember, many Muslim  women want to wear them, for the rights reasons for them.

But do they, unless without the belief?

Can you see my point, as how many Non-salafist Muslims or non-Muslims wear the burka? (only a hundred or so Ultra orthodox religious Jews in Jerusalem)

Why does it matter?

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:21 am

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

But do they, unless without the belief?

Can you see my point, as how many Non-salafist Muslims or non-Muslims wear the burka? (only a hundred or so Ultra orthodox religious Jews in Jerusalem)

Why does it matter?

Well it matters loads, when people are forced to wear and that very belief system, is misogynistic, homophobic etc.

Hence the uniform becomes a symbol of that oppression

Just take a look at the track record of this off-shoot belief system of Islam, wahhabism

Who is it followed by

Taliban
A-Qaeda
ISIS
Boko Haram

To name just a number of many terrorist organisations that are formed from Wahhabism

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:24 am

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why does it matter?

Well it matters loads, when people are forced to wear and that very belief system, is misogynistic, homophobic etc.

Hence the uniform becomes a symbol of that oppression

Just take a look at the track record of this off-shoot belief system of Islam, wahhabism

Who is it followed by

Taliban
A-Qaeda
ISIS
Boko Haram

To name just a number of many terrorist organisations that are formed from Wahhabism

Meh, just refuse.

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:24 am

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

Well it matters loads, when people are forced to wear and that very belief system, is misogynistic, homophobic etc.

Hence the uniform becomes a symbol of that oppression

Just take a look at the track record of this off-shoot belief system of Islam, wahhabism

Who is it followed by

Taliban
A-Qaeda
ISIS
Boko Haram

To name just a number of many terrorist organisations that are formed from Wahhabism

Meh, just refuse.

How can many refuse, when again its forced upon some of them?

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:34 am

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Meh, just refuse.

How can many refuse, when again its forced upon some of them?

Repeat after me: Go away!

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:37 am

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

How can many refuse, when again its forced upon some of them?

Repeat after me: Go away!

No

As that shows you are running scared of me


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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:25 am

LF... "quantum thinking"...?


That's genius...!


Where did you get that from...?


lol!



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Re: Oktoberfest: Slut Shaming Germans

Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:02 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Repeat after me: Go away!

No

As that shows you are running scared of me

And that's what is important to you...to make people afraid? Sad.

Back to topic: you asked "How can many refuse..." Well, my answer is, just say "Go away."

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:53 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:

No

As that shows you are running scared of me

And that's what is important to you...to make people afraid?  Sad.

Back to topic: you asked "How can many refuse..."  Well, my answer is, just say "Go away."


No again, as where did I claim I want you to be afraid

You wanting me to go away, shows you are clearly in fear of me when debating

How can they say go away, when its again forced onto them by society and in some cases by law?

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:58 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

And that's what is important to you...to make people afraid?  Sad.

Back to topic: you asked "How can many refuse..."  Well, my answer is, just say "Go away."


No again, as where did I claim I want you to be afraid

You wanting me to go away, shows you are clearly in fear of me when debating

How can they say go away, when its again forced onto them by society and in some cases by law?

It was not directly at you (god, you are self-centered). It is a generic way of refusing.

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:59 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:


No again, as where did I claim I want you to be afraid

You wanting me to go away, shows you are clearly in fear of me when debating

How can they say go away, when its again forced onto them by society and in some cases by law?

It was not directly at you (god, you are self-centered).  It is a generic way of refusing.


Stop lying quill, as how as seen can people forced to wear say "go away"?

It does not make any sense when you base this on the very fact where ISIS/taliban enforced this on women in the territories they occupied

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:21 am

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:


No again, as where did I claim I want you to be afraid

You wanting me to go away, shows you are clearly in fear of me when debating

How can they say go away, when its again forced onto them by society and in some cases by law?

It was not directly at you (god, you are self-centered).  It is a generic way of refusing.


Stop lying quill, as how as seen can people forced to wear say "go away"?

It does not make any sense when you base this on the very fact where ISIS/taliban enforced this on women in the territories they occupied


according to you that is Freedom
Law mean nothing REMEMBER because You are FREE to ignore them according to Didge-logic

how is a woman under ISIS any different than a Western wanting to smoke Dope ?? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:24 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:


Stop lying quill, as how as seen can people forced to wear say "go away"?

It does not make any sense when you base this on the very fact where ISIS/taliban enforced this on women in the territories they occupied


according to you that is Freedom
Law mean nothing REMEMBER because You are FREE to ignore them according to Didge-logic

how is a woman under ISIS any different than a Western wanting to smoke Dope ?? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Seriously?

Very different, as they going to have their heads removed if they do not obey

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:26 am

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

It was not directly at you (god, you are self-centered).  It is a generic way of refusing.


Stop lying quill, as how as seen can people forced to wear say "go away"?

It does not make any sense when you base this on the very fact where ISIS/taliban enforced this on women in the territories they occupied

Didge, you're the fookin' liar. Remember...you even falsely quote other posters, changing the language in their posts. You tried it on me.

I mean...does your wife trust you? I wouldn't if I were her. Has she caught you cheating like I have?

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:48 am

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:


Stop lying quill, as how as seen can people forced to wear say "go away"?

It does not make any sense when you base this on the very fact where ISIS/taliban enforced this on women in the territories they occupied

Didge, you're the fookin' liar.  Remember...you even falsely quote other posters, changing the language in their posts.  You tried it on me.

I mean...does your wife trust you?  I wouldn't if I were her.  Has she caught you cheating like I have?


I am not lying Quill, you got caught out here and cannot own up to it

Like I said, your post made zero sense to the context of what we discussing

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:33 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Didge, you're the fookin' liar.  Remember...you even falsely quote other posters, changing the language in their posts.  You tried it on me.

I mean...does your wife trust you?  I wouldn't if I were her.  Has she caught you cheating like I have?


I am not lying Quill, you got caught out here and cannot own up to it

Like I said, your post made zero sense to the context of what we discussing

Everybody saw you lying.  What is your response?  Lie, Lie, Deny, Lie!

Are you sure you're not Russian, Igor?  Razz You're following the plan...hope everyone has forgotten, then cover-up.

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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:49 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:


I am not lying Quill, you got caught out here and cannot own up to it

Like I said, your post made zero sense to the context of what we discussing

Everybody saw you lying.  What is your response?  Lie, Lie, Deny, Lie!

Are you sure you're not Russian, Igor?  Razz  You're following the plan...hope everyone has forgotten, then cover-up.


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