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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:06 am

OKTOBERFEST, the weeks-long German celebration dating back to the 1800s, is known for beer, Bavarian food and parades, but recently it has become recognised for something else — scantily clad women.
At least that’s how some Germans feel, and Australians are among the worst offenders, Fox News reports.
In a newspaper interview, a Munich-based crime author accused tourists of poorly imitating dirndls, traditional Bavarian clothing worn by women during Oktoberfest.
“With the young women it often looks like porno dresses, short and low-cut and cheap material,” he told The Times.
“It has nothing to do with identity.”
According to reports, more people than ever have started wearing traditional Bavarian outfits to the world’s most popular beer festival.
Franz Thalhammer, 70, a former chairman of Munich’s Georgenstoana Baierbrunn folk group, called out Australian and Italian tourists specifically for sexualising the uniform.
“A dirndl is something nice — it can make almost anyone pretty. But some of the dresses you see these days are crazy,” he said.
“You go in a tent and it’s full of paralytic Australians and Italians and they’ve forked out €250 ($400) for a complete Bavarian outfit and think they’re Bavarians. It’s as if I’d walk around half naked and say I’m Australian.”

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https://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/europe/female-oktoberfest-tourists-slammed-for-porno-dresses/news-story/f4356bb57c396681810f77bf3081e95c

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Re: Oktoberfest: Slut Shaming Germans

Post by veya_victaous on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:09 am

Germans really need to stop being sexist Fuddy Duddies...

Cause you can totally go around half naked and call yourself Aussie 
those Dresses are NOT pornographic, if you think they are the Issue is YOUR repressed sexuality not the wearer of the dress. 

Regular Australian Clothes, where Men respect Women's right to dress how they want 


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Post by nicko on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:24 am

Looks alright to me !
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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:55 am

cheers   cheers   cheers

Good to see those Aussie and Italian lasses keeping up the international standards over there...

Especially in the face of a handful of sexually-repressed anal-retentive whinging&whining deutsche snowflake organisers..

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Post by Vintage on Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:26 am

Unless these girls have German lineage isn't it cultural appropriation or does that only apply if you are white and appropriating aspects of non white culture ?

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Post by nicko on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:25 am

Vintage , your back to the "Jerk" argument now Smile
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Post by Vintage on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 am

Its a bit of a maze isn't it.
It's up to them of course what they want to wear but I can understand how traditionalists are upset.

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Post by gelico on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 am


''In a newspaper interview, a Munich-based crime author accused tourists of poorly imitating dirndls''

so basically, some no mark giving an opinion that no one gives a shit about

move along

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:40 am

Vintage wrote:
Unless these girls have German lineage isn't it cultural appropriation or does that only apply if you are white and appropriating aspects of non white culture ?

 
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I fail to quite see the connection with "cultural appropriation" in this instance, though...

The good burghers of Munich decide to build their annual piss-up into one of Germany's major international tourist attractions..

These buxom young Aussie and 'Eyetie' lasses decide to take the local tourism operators up on their offer.

They are then simply doing just what they were invited to do --  spending their 'hard-earned' buying beer, food, accommodation and clothes from local suppliers --  and then getting well-and-truly pissed.


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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:58 am

As you said Vintage....clearly the leftwing snowflake "insult" of cultural appropriatition can only apply if the culture thus insulted is non white non christian. All other useage of the idea are invalid to the pathetic jelly bean mind of the lefty and will be met with denial,diversion and and doubless squeals of "racism" or "NazI" . A true example of the lefty duality and Quantum thinking,wherby two or more incompatible and inconsistant values can BOTH be held to be true and virtuous when the application suits. (NOTE...some folks would merely consider it two faced)
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Post by Syl on Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:19 pm

I bet the author thinks that women who wear minis, low tight tops and high heels are asking to be raped too....sounds like he has that sort of mindset.

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Post by Vintage on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:29 pm

It could also be that this is a traditional regional/national dress that some people don't want messed with. Imagine other national costumes or daily wear being messed about with in this way, the uproar from some quarters would be deafening. It can be seen as disrespectful.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:03 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
As you said Vintage....clearly the leftwing snowflake "insult" of cultural appropriatition can only apply if the culture thus insulted is non white non christian. All other useage of the idea are invalid to the pathetic jelly bean mind of the lefty and will be met with denial,diversion and and doubless squeals of "racism" or "NazI" . A true example of the lefty duality and Quantum thinking,wherby two or more incompatible and inconsistant values can BOTH be held to be true and virtuous when the application suits. (NOTE...some folks would merely consider it two faced)

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How bigotted and judgemental of you, Victor...

Re: the previous "Jerk/Rice" thread -- last time I looked, Jamaica was a predominantly Christian country..

Oops !!! Like to rephrase that quip, maybe ?

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:08 pm

Vintage wrote:It could also be that this is a traditional regional/national dress that some people don't want messed with. Imagine other national costumes or daily wear being messed about with in this way, the uproar from some quarters would be deafening. It can be seen as disrespectful.

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In which case, that small minority of whinging whiners creating this storm in a beer stein should take it up with their fellow Germans who are actually supplying those costumes...

Sounds more like maybe drumming up some free advertising for next months Oktoberfest, perhaps -- rather than any genuine complaints about any potential "cultural appropriation" ?

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Post by Syl on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:13 pm

Vintage wrote:It could also be that this is a traditional regional/national dress that some people don't want messed with. Imagine other national costumes or daily wear being messed about with in this way, the uproar from some quarters would be deafening. It can be seen as disrespectful.

In the 70's there was a few Beer Kellers in Manchester doing a roaring trade, I worked in one of them myself.
In some of them the standard uniform was similar to the outfits the girls wore in the OP.
No one seemed to mind then, I wonder why people have gotten so precious over the years?

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:00 pm

I think they look great! I’d totally wear something like that if I went to something like that.

What’s the problem?

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Post by nicko on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:47 pm

I'll come with you wearing Lederhosen !
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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:53 pm

nicko wrote:I'll come with you wearing Lederhosen !

Ja! Icht meinen lederhosen Razz

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:58 pm

eddie wrote:I think they look great! I’d totally wear something like that if I went to something like that.

What’s the problem?

I like the one in the yellow suit. Heat in the winter, shade in the summer. Wink

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:09 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:I think they look great! I’d totally wear something like that if I went to something like that.

What’s the problem?

I like the one in the yellow suit.  Heat in the winter, shade in the summer.  Wink

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Post by *THE Ben Reilly* on Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 pm

nicko wrote:I'll come with you wearing Lederhosen !

JOIN THE QUEUE YOU DICKHEAD !

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:34 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:I think they look great! I’d totally wear something like that if I went to something like that.

What’s the problem?

I like the one in the yellow suit.  Heat in the winter, shade in the summer.  Wink

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Post by *THE Ben Reilly* on Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:21 am

Vintage wrote:Unless these girls have German lineage isn't it cultural appropriation or does that only apply if you are white and appropriating aspects of non white culture ?
 

Well, white people can really claim all aspects of white Western European culture due to how mixed up we are. Western Europe is a tiny area with a bunch of different cultures, so there's been a lot of immigration and interfucking over the years.

Look at edds, she's like a quarter French or something. I'm a quarter Irish, a fifth English and half German, with a little French and a tiny dash of Finnish.

Hell, the English people are partly descended from Gaelic people (who originated around Romania and moved west) and partly from German people (the Angles and Saxons both originated in Germany).

Hell, Normandy and Sicily were once ruled by Vikings! Vikings who moved into Scandinavia from, you guessed it, Germany.

The French, well, they're just Gaels who didn't cross the English Channel and interfucked with the Romans. Except they didn't call themselves Gaels, but Gauls.

It's pretty safe to say that any white people living or originating west of the Caucasus Mountains are just Caucasians.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:44 am

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I like the one in the yellow suit.  Heat in the winter, shade in the summer.  Wink

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Stop it Quill...you're far too old for such things.

Well...that's why I seek climate control. As eds says, practical.  Razz

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:24 am

Vintage wrote:Unless these girls have German lineage isn't it cultural appropriation or does that only apply if you are white and appropriating aspects of non white culture ?
 


it's about RESPECT 
How fucking Hard is it to understand !!!!!!

and if they are Aussie girls that have spent thousands of dollars to Travel to Germany and experience German Culture it is coming from a place of Respect.
they are Probably spending Thousands more travelling around Germany And almost definitely Buying these costumes from Germans  Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

and What Ben Said 
the Culture is EUROPEAN just like Europeans are not expected to Understand the 50 odd different Cultures JUST in China, that differentiate as much as Europe and covers as much land as Europe.
Just Hurry Up with the Unites States of Europe Already tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:35 am

Actully each European country has unique cultures, languages, food, music etc formed over centuries. They only share generally a religious identity. Cultures have formed over time uniquely to those countries

Ben, seems to have left out a mountain of different ethnic groups that settled in France, Briton etc also throughout the centuries

Tell a Scotsman and Irishman they are culturally the same as the English and am sure without doubt, you would be lucky to get away with simple verbal abuse.

I do not see a problem with this where people where the cultural clothes here. Or food, languages, music etc but it shows the hypocrisy with the left when it is different ethnic white groups people. They simple lump them altogether and do so based on skin colours and not their cultures , languages, food, music etc.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:50 am

Same in China, Europe's not special
the difference between Uygur and Schezwan is greater than Any 2 European nations and both are Chinese
 (even Australian Aboriginals, native Americans etc had as much or more deviations) 

And to anyone outside of Your little corner of the world Scots, Irish, English are all considered Anglos(White Native English Speakers), hell the welsh are hardly recognized at all. if you asked most people they'll say Wales is part of England 

it not lumped together it is about the RESPECT, not action or Color or any other dumb thing you say.  the factor of RESPECT it seems You just can't compute, so you can't even begin to fathom what Cultural Appropriation means so Can't follow any conversation about it.

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:54 am

veya_victaous wrote:Same in China, Europe's not special
the difference between Uygur and Schezwan is greater than Any 2 European nations and both are Chinese
 (even Australian Aboriginals, native Americans etc had as much or more deviations) 

And to anyone outside of Your little corner of the world Scots, Irish, English are all considered Anglos(White Native English Speakers), hell the welsh are hardly recognized at all. if you asked most people they'll say Wales is part of England 

it not lumped together it is about the RESPECT, not action or Color or any other dumb thing you say.  the factor of RESPECT it seems You just can't compute, so you can't even begin to fathom what Cultural Appropriation means so Can't follow any conversation about it.

Where did anyone claim Europe was special?

It seems you are making a racial argument over who you see as superior

Nobody else has done so

You say this is about respect and yet you showed no respect to individual European ethnic groups here

Espcially as you just claimed superiority over different cultures, based again on an Asian to white ethnic bases

Well that is only you that thinks that about the Irish, Scots and English, and shows you do not know that a mass of Australian people descend and identify with these ethnic groups. Thus they certainly know what these ethnic groups are, being as they descend from them

Like I say the left just end up tying themselves in knots with this and show the worst hypocrisy

There is nothing wrong with people taking on food, styles of dress and hair, culture, music etc by other ethnic groups and in fact are showing how great they think they are

That is being respectful to them

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:12 pm



No need to go to Germany to share in their Oktoberfest celebrations...

Down here, the local Germania club puts on a mini-Oktoberfest over at Warners Bay..

They used to have their own clubhouse and ran Oktoberfest over a few days --  nowadays it's a couple of days,  utilizing local pubs and restaraunts.

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:58 pm

ahh tyhe stench of lefty quantum thinking pervades the atmosphere.....one rule for them and one for everyone else....

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:07 pm

I just don’t see the problem? Why is everyone so upset over how someone dresses?

Fucking hell. The women look great, they feel good, the men like it, it’s celebrating Germany....and beer...what’s not to like?

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:26 pm

the problem is.........

the leftys have a collective meltdown when a certain "chef" calls his product "jerk rice" (when it isnr really, just like a dyson aint a hoover) but when placed in EXACTLY the same position over this so called cultural appropriation, applied to a german drinking festival, scream blue murder and come up with every fallacious spurious and cretinous excuse you can imagine....

Now this wouldnt be a problem except that it once again highlights the lefty's ability to engage in "quantum thinking" which unfortunately they apply to ALL their policies and adgendas, leading to the well known creature the "champagne socialist" for one. This duality of thinking is both dangerous and renders the left incapable of being a "reasonable"  force in any form of power.

it is also how the left will "justify" the verbal abuse thrown at JRM's kids, expecting that folks will see that its perfectly OK for THEM to behave in such a fasion, but woe betide the percieved R/Wer that hurled similar abuse at, for instance, one of the (many) grooming gang members family..........

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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:24 pm

Lord Foul wrote:the problem is.........

the leftys have a collective meltdown when a certain "chef" calls his product "jerk rice" (when it isnr really, just like a dyson aint a hoover) but when placed in EXACTLY the same position over this so called cultural appropriation, applied to a german drinking festival, scream blue murder and come up with every fallacious spurious and cretinous excuse you can imagine....

Now this wouldnt be a problem except that it once again highlights the lefty's ability to engage in "quantum thinking" which unfortunately they apply to ALL their policies and adgendas, leading to the well known creature the "champagne socialist" for one. This duality of thinking is both dangerous and renders the left incapable of being a "reasonable"  force in any form of power.

it is also how the left will "justify" the verbal abuse thrown at JRM's kids, expecting that folks will see that its perfectly OK for THEM to behave in such a fasion, but woe betide the percieved R/Wer that hurled similar abuse at, for instance, one of the (many) grooming gang members family..........

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Post by nicko on Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:30 am

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:10 am

Lord Foul wrote:the problem is.........

the leftys have a collective meltdown when a certain "chef" calls his product "jerk rice" (when it isnr really, just like a dyson aint a hoover) but when placed in EXACTLY the same position over this so called cultural appropriation, applied to a german drinking festival, scream blue murder and come up with every fallacious spurious and cretinous excuse you can imagine....

Now this wouldnt be a problem except that it once again highlights the lefty's ability to engage in "quantum thinking" which unfortunately they apply to ALL their policies and adgendas, leading to the well known creature the "champagne socialist" for one. This duality of thinking is both dangerous and renders the left incapable of being a "reasonable"  force in any form of power.

it is also how the left will "justify" the verbal abuse thrown at JRM's kids, expecting that folks will see that its perfectly OK for THEM to behave in such a fasion, but woe betide the percieved R/Wer that hurled similar abuse at, for instance, one of the (many) grooming gang members family..........


how is it anything like the jerk rice incident ?  Even remotely like the incident? What Single thing does it have in common ?


is the dress within the bounds of the dress's definition? 
Is it being sold under that name? 
Are the girls Profiting from it? 
Are the girls Claiming it is the Dress when it's not?

Plus if Jamie had made anything even remotely resembling jerk rice he would have been fine, even if he had just used all spice and scotch bonnets and made it  Super mild and flavorless so it was a fusion of Jerk and English cooking he could have sold it as Jamie's Jerk Flavored rice and that's fine. BUT that is not what he did at all.

in this case you have NOTHING in common with what Jamie did at all And it your Quantum Idiocy to even suggest it 

STATE clearly a SINGLE thing in common between the 2 !!!!!

Your Bullshit is being called out RIGHT NOW Lord Foul !!!!

I can clearly show how they are not at all the same, the actions are nothing a like at all.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:14 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:Same in China, Europe's not special
the difference between Uygur and Schezwan is greater than Any 2 European nations and both are Chinese
 (even Australian Aboriginals, native Americans etc had as much or more deviations) 

And to anyone outside of Your little corner of the world Scots, Irish, English are all considered Anglos(White Native English Speakers), hell the welsh are hardly recognized at all. if you asked most people they'll say Wales is part of England 

it not lumped together it is about the RESPECT, not action or Color or any other dumb thing you say.  the factor of RESPECT it seems You just can't compute, so you can't even begin to fathom what Cultural Appropriation means so Can't follow any conversation about it.

Where did anyone claim Europe was special?

It seems you are making a racial argument over who you see as superior

Nobody else has done so

You say this is about respect and yet you showed no respect to individual European ethnic groups here

Espcially as you just claimed superiority over different cultures, based again on an Asian to white ethnic bases

Well that is only you that thinks that about the Irish, Scots and English, and shows you do not know that a mass of Australian people descend and identify with these ethnic groups. Thus they certainly know what these ethnic groups are, being as they descend from them

Like I say the left just end up tying themselves in knots with this and show the worst hypocrisy

There is nothing wrong with people taking on food, styles of dress and hair, culture, music etc by other ethnic groups and in fact are showing how great they think they are

That is being respectful to them


EXACTLY !!!!

which is why this is 100% different that Jamie's Jerk Rice Incident 
Because he Did NOT take their food, he just took the name of one of their Famous Foods and slapped it on unrelated crap 

this has nothing to do with Left and right it has to do with having enough respect for Another culture to know about ti and use it in context 

it's decent human beings and Ignorant Racist Scum bags not left and right

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:51 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:

Where did anyone claim Europe was special?

It seems you are making a racial argument over who you see as superior

Nobody else has done so

You say this is about respect and yet you showed no respect to individual European ethnic groups here

Espcially as you just claimed superiority over different cultures, based again on an Asian to white ethnic bases

Well that is only you that thinks that about the Irish, Scots and English, and shows you do not know that a mass of Australian people descend and identify with these ethnic groups. Thus they certainly know what these ethnic groups are, being as they descend from them

Like I say the left just end up tying themselves in knots with this and show the worst hypocrisy

There is nothing wrong with people taking on food, styles of dress and hair, culture, music etc by other ethnic groups and in fact are showing how great they think they are

That is being respectful to them


EXACTLY !!!!

which is why this is 100% different that Jamie's Jerk Rice Incident 
Because he Did NOT take their food, he just took the name of one of their Famous Foods and slapped it on unrelated crap 

this has nothing to do with Left and right it has to do with having enough respect for Another culture to know about ti and use it in context 

it's decent human beings and Ignorant Racist Scum bags not left and right


I see you still have learnt nothing here

Its not 100% different either

All it was here, was a couple of people getting their knickers in a twist, because he saw a great idea based off his love of food, and in this case jamiacan food

To claim again racism, shows you still have not got a clue or understanding of racism

Im not going togo round in ciricles again, where yesterday you have clearly made a 180% u-turn

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:10 am

No, it is not the same, it is not 'Jamaican Food', it is JERK !!!!!
A Specific thing, if you are Also Too Racist to show any respect for another culture than you are in no position to advise any one of anything. as it is clearly YOU that doesn't understand!!!!

Again it's like saying all English novels are Shakespeare, that is what you just did, when you are just too lazy t not be racist and acknowledge that Jerk is NOT a synonym for Jamaican food !!!!
That is the offensive part, that is Cultural appropriation 
NOT the using English in novels or non-English Enjoying Shakespeare. 

100% different, there is not a single feature that is the same.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:12 am

And Still no one can show a single point of similarity between this and Jamie's rice.   Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:13 am

Lord Foul wrote:the problem is.........

the leftys have a collective meltdown when a certain "chef" calls his product "jerk rice" (when it isnr really, just like a dyson aint a hoover) but when placed in EXACTLY the same position over this so called cultural appropriation, applied to a german drinking festival, scream blue murder and come up with every fallacious spurious and cretinous excuse you can imagine....

Now this wouldnt be a problem except that it once again highlights the lefty's ability to engage in "quantum thinking" which unfortunately they apply to ALL their policies and adgendas, leading to the well known creature the "champagne socialist" for one. This duality of thinking is both dangerous and renders the left incapable of being a "reasonable"  force in any form of power.

it is also how the left will "justify" the verbal abuse thrown at JRM's kids, expecting that folks will see that its perfectly OK for THEM to behave in such a fasion, but woe betide the percieved R/Wer that hurled similar abuse at, for instance, one of the (many) grooming gang members family..........


lol he still cannot grasp it mate

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:25 am

Didge wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:the problem is.........

the leftys have a collective meltdown when a certain "chef" calls his product "jerk rice" (when it isnr really, just like a dyson aint a hoover) but when placed in EXACTLY the same position over this so called cultural appropriation, applied to a german drinking festival, scream blue murder and come up with every fallacious spurious and cretinous excuse you can imagine....

Now this wouldnt be a problem except that it once again highlights the lefty's ability to engage in "quantum thinking" which unfortunately they apply to ALL their policies and adgendas, leading to the well known creature the "champagne socialist" for one. This duality of thinking is both dangerous and renders the left incapable of being a "reasonable"  force in any form of power.

it is also how the left will "justify" the verbal abuse thrown at JRM's kids, expecting that folks will see that its perfectly OK for THEM to behave in such a fasion, but woe betide the percieved R/Wer that hurled similar abuse at, for instance, one of the (many) grooming gang members family..........


lol he still cannot grasp it mate

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I grasp it, You 2 are just lazy racists that want to debate pretend strawman because neither of you have any hope against a real human  Rolling Eyes

You can't compute Specific Information and unable to process thoughts that are not totally simplistic 
Like it involves race SO You just stop thinking, You can't Grasp that there are Still Fuck tonnes of other factors to consider, 
it's Not Just 2 people of different races using other races stuff 
that is not AND was never the ISSUE in either case

Now STFU and let Lord Foul Answer because you clearly have NOTHING to ADD

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:30 am

So more infantile abuse

You clearly cannot grasp it

A person adapting some jamaican food, which in itself takes ingredients from other cultures is to you cultural appropriation, but any white culture in this case Germanic/Bavarian, is not cultural appropriation.

In other words, the left like I say, constantly tie themselves up in knots.

Taking on the music, food, dress styles etc , is a compliment to those cultures.

Again its in complete respect for them and yet you as seen show the worst double standards. Hence why easily Victor has taken you to task and that you still cannot grasp it

I suggest you stop wearing Jeans Veya, as its cultural appropriation.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:42 am

it has nothing to do with whites. I'm not in knots I am being clear and precise about the Specific details of each case ... ti is you an LF that are Just doing a simplistic comparison when there is Nothing in common besides 'someone using something of another race' and that is NOT the issue. it's simply NOT what makes Cultural Appropriation. 

And AGAIN if you don't understand what Jamie did then STFU You clearly Can't Comment on an Incident When you clearly Do NOT comprehend it 

You keep saying Jamaican Food... that has ZERO to do with anything.Just by using the words Jamaican food You 100% demonstrate You don't even comprehend any part of the Jamie's Rice discussion.  

So in other words YOU are making a strawman that doesn't exist because You cannot debate an actual human. 

Now STOP ruining the thread and Let Lord Foul Answer 
You clearly have nothing further to add 

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:47 am

You are completely in knots as easily expressed and reasoned by Victor

Its showing the double standards that you protray based on how you view and portray people who are defined Black or Asian, as all Victims. This is where the mentality stems from with a view that white people cannot suffer racism. From a new warped racist view created by the left based on power. The left constantly invoke a view of identity politics, and this is just one extension of this.

So I can easily comprehend how the left pick and chose as to where they show the worst double standards on someone that is again a leftist creation, cultural appropriation. 

People are asked to embrace multiculturalism and yet when they do, the left accuse them of cultural appropriation and only with people classed white

So your claim I am ruining this thread is not going to stand. I am easily responding to you ill conceived views and showing them up for what they are.


Hypocritical


So have you stopped wearing Jeans yet Veya?


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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:32 pm

This isn’t about jerk seasoning, is it?

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:58 pm

eddie wrote:This isn’t about jerk seasoning, is it?

No just the human jerk form

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:17 pm

Okaaaaay, but really it’s about telling people what they should wear and being an arse about it.

Let people wear what they want to wear!

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:18 pm

eddie wrote:Okaaaaay, but really it’s about telling people what they should wear and being an arse about it.

Let people wear what they want to wear!

Agreed, as long as fear is not being used to make people believe they have to wear

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:35 pm

Well then we are back to Muslims and I’ve already said that I have no problem at all, with the burkha.

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:43 pm

eddie wrote:Well then we are back to Muslims and I’ve already said that I have no problem at all, with the burkha.

I have no problem with the burkha, I only have a problem around the belief that indoctrinates women to believe they have to wear, through fear. Or men and a society that forces them to wear.

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