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Post by Didge on Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:18 pm

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A headmaster has sparked fury after introducing 'unisex' toilets for pupils at his secondary school.

Dominic McKeon had the row of standalone toilets built in the run up to the new school year so boys and girls at the Little Lever School in Bolton, Greater Manchester, could use them together during their lunch break.

But parents were furious after only learning of the move when their children returned to classes following the summer holidays.

Several vowed to keep the youngsters off lessons in protest whilst a campaign against the unisex toilets started on Facebook.

Today, Mr McKeon, who was appointed to the school a year after it converted to Academy status in 2016, posted pictures of the new toilets insisting each cubicle has 'male' and 'female' signs in a bid to appease parents.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6138375/Headmaster-sparks-fury-introduces-unisex-toilets-secondary-school.html

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:09 am

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:25 am

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Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
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that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.

Smile

I agree, veya...

That's the kind of comment we might might expect from Smelly...

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Post by Didge on Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:17 am

Syl wrote:I would have hated to share toilets with boys when I was at school.
Times have moved on, but kids are still kids, and I think 11 to 16 year olds should have separate toilets and washbasins.

This school does still have girls only toilets, but the boys have no option other than to use the unisex ones.

The parents were not consulted and according to parents speaking out on local radio they are being ignored when they are trying to speak to the head......even though he has put a statement out saying he will listen carefully to all the parental comments.

Unisex toilets are opening more frequently, and for adults I dont see a problem, kids are different, they are going through changes and probably like to be in a same sex environment when using toilets.

Its not only girls who are sensitive, one mum on the radio said her son aged 13 is going all day without using the toilet because he wont use the unisex ones.


Exactly and I think its a very poor social experiment

It thinks it can socially engineer people a certain way. Neglecting the fact all people grow up with varying views on what they feel comfortable with. Things like this should never be forced onto people

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Post by Didge on Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:19 am

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:


Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
I’m surprised you didn’t post more creeping emojis and perhaps pant a little.  



that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.


What is racist about her comment?

What race did she view as inferior?

What views did she make that anyone was inferior?

None

The point was she was mocking how you were sucking up to someone

That is not racism

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:13 am

I don't suck up to anyone Dingus 
I don't have to  Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

But I may Try and encourage some of our good posters to stay despite your repeated attempts to chase away anyone that doesn't bow down to your bullying

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Post by Didge on Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:29 am

veya_victaous wrote:I don't suck up to anyone Dingus 
I don't have to  Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

But I may Try and encourage some of our good posters to stay despite your repeated attempts to chase away anyone that doesn't bow down to your bullying

If you think I am bullying posters, why have the mod team not warned me?

So again the above is an example of you tryingto start and again mud sling

So I shall again by-pass you

So back to the view on here

Is it right to use children as social experiments, espcially when there is child on child abuse?

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Post by eddie on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:42 am

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:@Sexy Mama

 Great to see you back and Love Your work Laughing Laughing Laughing
  


Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
I’m surprised you didn’t post more creeping emojis and perhaps pant a little.  



that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.


Yeah? Racist is it? In what way?

You said you loved seeing white people get bullied, remember?

Is that racist?


No Veya, my post made you look like a creepy arse-licker, and you know it.


Can you tell Wolf that I’m not replying to him on this thread seeing as he can’t even understand a simple joke in the joke section.
He’s a dumb white ass.

Is that racist????

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Post by Didge on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:43 am

This is very long article, but full of data and facts

If people are truly open-minded they will read and digest this all

https://lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2018/08/29/unisex-toilets-sexual-violence-in-schools/

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Post by eddie on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:46 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:


Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
I’m surprised you didn’t post more creeping emojis and perhaps pant a little.  



that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.


What is racist about her comment?

What race did she view as inferior?

What views did she make that anyone was inferior?

None

The point was she was mocking how you were sucking up to someone

That is not racism


He knows it wasn’t racist. He’s trying to score a cheat point which is really sad.

Perhaps he should embarressed about how OTT he went?

I was talking to Ben and even he mentioned it by saying...Wow...that’s a bit much, didn’t even know he knew SM that well?”


Never mind.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:33 am

At the risk of being accused of pedantry, may I point out that Islam is not a race; it is a religion.
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:02 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:At the risk of being accused of pedantry, may I point out that Islam is not a race; it is a religion.

Technically, yes. But, Islam is a religion that is favored by predominately middle easterners, southeast Asians and Africans.  So, while it is a religion, it is coterminous with many people of color.

I think that is why it is commonly referred to as a race.

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Fred Moletrousers wrote:At the risk of being accused of pedantry, may I point out that Islam is not a race; it is a religion.

Islam is a religion that is favored by predominately middle easterners, southeast Asians and Africans.  So, while it is a religion, it is coterminous with many people of color.

I think that is why it is commonly referred to as a race.

That is nonsense, as its as diverse as most religions in the world like Christianity

There was no view to play on race here but a view, that mocked sucking up, because she was a Muslim, based on his left wing beliefs

So no view was played on race here as Fred rightly points out

This is a typical example of people again and wrongly trying to make people out to be victims by a racial identity

Islam is not a race, its a set of beliefs that anyone can follow.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:14 pm

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Islam is a religion that is favored by predominately middle easterners, southeast Asians and Africans.  So, while it is a religion, it is coterminous with many people of color.

I think that is why it is commonly referred to as a race.

That is nonsense, as its as diverse as most religions in the world like Christianity

There was no view to play on race here but a view, that mocked sucking up, because she was a Muslim, based on his left wing beliefs

So no view was played on race here as Fred rightly points out

This is a typical example of people again and wrongly trying to make people out to be victims by a racial identity

Islam is not a race, its a belief

Shear stupidity...to defy reality in order to steer the controversy...thence, to duck down rabbit-holes and argue metaphors. It's avoidance. Denial is an admission your adversary is correct..

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Post by Didge on Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:19 pm

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Didge wrote:

That is nonsense, as its as diverse as most religions in the world like Christianity

There was no view to play on race here but a view, that mocked sucking up, because she was a Muslim, based on his left wing beliefs

So no view was played on race here as Fred rightly points out

This is a typical example of people again and wrongly trying to make people out to be victims by a racial identity

Islam is not a race, its a belief

Shear stupidity...to defy reality in order to steer the controversy...thence, to duck down rabbit-holes and argue metaphors.  It's avoidance.  Denial is an admission your adversary is correct..

There is nothing wrong with what I said, so are you telling me a person that defines as white British Muslims, is now Middle Eastern?

Again this is the left trying to engineer a view of inequality

Make people different view as racial victims

Racism already covers when someone suffers racism and Islmophobia already covers anti-Muslim bigotry

Do you understand the difference?

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:35 pm

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Fred Moletrousers wrote:At the risk of being accused of pedantry, may I point out that Islam is not a race; it is a religion.

Technically, yes.  But, Islam is a religion that is favored by predominately middle easterners, southeast Asians and Africans.  So, while it is a religion, it is coterminous with many people of color.

I think that is why it is commonly referred to as a race.

Let's not conflate things here, Quill.

While there are definitely racists in the world who fling insults related to Islam around as though they are a race, the absolute fact is that Islam is not a race and no one in this thread has been racist at all.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:At the risk of being accused of pedantry, may I point out that Islam is not a race; it is a religion.

Technically, yes.  But, Islam is a religion that is favored by predominately middle easterners, southeast Asians and Africans.  So, while it is a religion, it is coterminous with many people of color.

I think that is why it is commonly referred to as a race.

I would argue that it is somewhat more than "technically", Quill, and the suggestion that Islam is "commonly referred to as a race" commits such a common fundamental error that for Eddie's critics to condemn her statement as "racist" is simply an attempted exploitation of the race card in support of an indefensible argument.

Islam may well be coterminous with "people of colour" (although we have a Muslim convert in our own village whose family have farmed and owned land here since the 16th century!)  but to refer to people collectively from the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa as a "race" - even colloquially speaking - is absolutely incorrect. Some of them might even be offended by it!

And anyway, had Eddie posted something on the lines of "of course love her work! She's a Christian (or Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or Taoist)!" would anyone on here be daft enough to display the sort of histrionic faux reaction that we have seen from Veya and Wolfie?
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:39 pm

Fred M. wrote:I would argue that it is somewhat more than "technically", Quill, and the suggestion that Islam is "commonly referred to as a race" commits such a common fundamental error that for Eddie's critics to condemn her statement as "racist" is simply an attempted exploitation of the race card in support of an indefensible argument.

I've already agreed with you Fred. I think when people perceive Muslims as people of color, its the race that is coterminous with Islam that they mean.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:46 pm

Fred M. wrote:Islam may well be coterminous with "people of colour" (although we have a Muslim convert in our own village whose family have farmed and owned land here since the 16th century!) but to refer to people collectively from the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa as a "race" - even colloquially speaking - is absolutely incorrect. Some of them might even be offended by it!

You'll get no argument from me. The people who define such things are the racists, not those of us responding.

E.g., Donald Trump doesn't make such refined distinctions, he just hates people from "shithole" countries. Of course, he means those people of darker shades of skin...as opposed to Norway.


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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:56 pm

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:@Sexy Mama

 Great to see you back and Love Your work Laughing Laughing Laughing
  


Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
I’m surprised you didn’t post more creeping emojis and perhaps pant a little.  



that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.


Yeah? Racist is it? In what way?

You said you loved seeing white people get bullied, remember?

Is that racist?


No Veya, my post made you look like a creepy arse-licker, and you know it.


Can you tell Wolf that I’m not replying to him on this thread seeing as he can’t even understand a simple joke in the joke section.
He’s a dumb white ass.

Is that racist????


yes it is 
And your the first one to Say it too !!!

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:59 pm

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:


Of course love her work!  She’s a Muslim!
I’m surprised you didn’t post more creeping emojis and perhaps pant a little.  



that's Super Racist and a REALLY rather pathetic comment from you to be honest  Suspect Suspect Suspect

I love the fact she's torn Didge's arguments to Shred with such Grace.


What is racist about her comment?

What race did she view as inferior?

What views did she make that anyone was inferior?

None

The point was she was mocking how you were sucking up to someone

That is not racism


He knows it wasn’t racist. He’s trying to score a cheat point which is really sad.

Perhaps he should embarressed about how OTT he went?

I was talking to Ben and even he mentioned it by saying...Wow...that’s a bit much, didn’t even know he knew SM that well?”


Never mind.


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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:38 am

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That is nonsense, as its as diverse as most religions in the world like Christianity

There was no view to play on race here but a view, that mocked sucking up, because she was a Muslim, based on his left wing beliefs

So no view was played on race here as Fred rightly points out

This is a typical example of people again and wrongly trying to make people out to be victims by a racial identity

Islam is not a race, its a belief

Shear stupidity...to defy reality in order to steer the controversy...thence, to duck down rabbit-holes and argue metaphors.  It's avoidance.  Denial is an admission your adversary is correct..

Arrow

This is typical hypocritical bullshit and bluster from the Dodger...

On here he happily points out why Islam technically isn't a race, but a religious belief system..

While at the same time, he has posted a thread elsewhere, arguing just why Judaism should be allowed to be called a "race" in its own right.

With the ol' Dodger, it's clearly one rule for him and his beloved propaganda puff pieces --  and another rule for everyone else; and where only Dodgey gets to set those rules..

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Post by Didge on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:43 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Shear stupidity...to defy reality in order to steer the controversy...thence, to duck down rabbit-holes and argue metaphors.  It's avoidance.  Denial is an admission your adversary is correct..

Arrow

This is typical hypocritical bullshit and bluster from the Dodger...

On here he happily points out why Islam technically isn't a race, but a religious belief system..

While at the same time, he has posted a thread elsewhere, arguing just why Judaism should be allowed to be called a "race" in its own right.

With the ol' Dodger, it's clearly one rule for him and his beloved propaganda puff pieces --  and another rule for everyone else;  and where only Dodgey gets to set those rules..

Never made any such claim on Judaism

What I have said is that Jews are seen as both religios group and an ethnic group

As there are athiest Jews

So you need to stop lying Wolf, as I never made any such claim on Judaism

In fact I dare you to post up any post I made, making such claim

If not, then you arfe going to look very silly for lying

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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:54 pm

Oh, yeah. Unisex crappers. Fucking outrageous.
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Post by gelico on Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:06 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:Oh, yeah.  Unisex crappers.     Fucking outrageous.


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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:31 pm

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Shear stupidity...to defy reality in order to steer the controversy...thence, to duck down rabbit-holes and argue metaphors.  It's avoidance.  Denial is an admission your adversary is correct..

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This is typical hypocritical bullshit and bluster from the Dodger...

On here he happily points out why Islam technically isn't a race, but a religious belief system..

While at the same time, he has posted a thread elsewhere, arguing just why Judaism should be allowed to be called a "race" in its own right.

With the ol' Dodger, it's clearly one rule for him and his beloved propaganda puff pieces --  and another rule for everyone else;  and where only Dodgey gets to set those rules..

I'm afraid the "bullshit and bluster" is all yours in this case, Wolfie.

As I pointed out to Quill, there is no "technically" about Islam. It is not a race, either technically or factually, it is a religion; a faith...the belief in Allah and his prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the adherence to the Koran that transcends racial and geographical boundaries and considerations, as do many, if not most, religions.

Except for....Judaism. This is defined as the monotheistic religion of the Jews
with the Torah as its foundational text. And the Jews are most definitely a race whose religion, philosophy and culture are encompassed in its teachings.

I'll be happy to pass on your apologies to Didge - even though I have him on ignore because I'm an old man with a refurbished heart and need to watch my blood pressure!
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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:30 pm

Fred M. wrote:As I pointed out to Quill, there is no "technically" about Islam. It is not a race, either technically or factually, it is a religion; a faith...the belief in Allah and his prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the adherence to the Koran that transcends racial and geographical boundaries and considerations, as do many, if not most, religions.

You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

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Post by Didge on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:31 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Fred M. wrote:As I pointed out to Quill, there is no "technically" about Islam. It is not a race, either technically or factually, it is a religion; a faith...the belief in Allah and his prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the adherence to the Koran that transcends racial and geographical boundaries and considerations, as do many, if not most, religions.

You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.


Can you back that up?

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Fred M. wrote:As I pointed out to Quill, there is no "technically" about Islam. It is not a race, either technically or factually, it is a religion; a faith...the belief in Allah and his prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the adherence to the Koran that transcends racial and geographical boundaries and considerations, as do many, if not most, religions.

You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

My very good friend and her husband are Tories, and my friend’s whole family are Tories.

They’re all Indian.

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Post by nicko on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:50 pm

My Neighbour comes from St Kitts, he votes Tory as well !
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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:53 pm

eddie wrote:
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You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

My very good friend and her husband are Tories, and my friend’s whole family are Tories.

They’re all Indian.


Oooohh...some of my best friends are Tories. Laughing

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Post by Didge on Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:54 pm

eddie wrote:
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You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

My very good friend and her husband are Tories, and my friend’s whole family are Tories.

They’re all Indian.


It seems many Indians support the Tories Eddie

http://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:18 pm

Didge wrote:
eddie wrote:
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You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

My very good friend and her husband are Tories, and my friend’s whole family are Tories.

They’re all Indian.


It seems many Indians support the Tories Eddie

http://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

I know that didge. Know how I know that? Because I talk to loads of people every day and I know many, many, Indian people.


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Post by Didge on Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:12 pm

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:


It seems many Indians support the Tories Eddie

http://theconversation.com/how-the-conservatives-stole-the-british-indian-vote-from-labour-77275

I know that didge. Know how I know that? Because I talk to loads of people every day and I know many, many, Indian people.



Do not doubt that you do

We have many Nepalese down here. The friendliest and hardworking people I know, alongside the Polish. We have a large contingent of Polish as well.

I posted the link more so to show out of touch Quill is

Hey ho

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:26 pm

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Fred M. wrote:As I pointed out to Quill, there is no "technically" about Islam. It is not a race, either technically or factually, it is a religion; a faith...the belief in Allah and his prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and the adherence to the Koran that transcends racial and geographical boundaries and considerations, as do many, if not most, religions.

You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

I am not "hiding" behind anything; I am simply stating an indisputable fact - as well as a reality: Islam is not, by any definition, a race.

And in my experience "the average Tory" - whatever or whoever that might be - no more hates Muslims than the average Labour Party supporter hates Jews.
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:41 am

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
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You're still hiding behind the dictionary, and ignoring reality.  The average Tory hates Muslims, and it's a color thing not a religious thing.

I am not "hiding" behind anything; I am simply stating an indisputable fact - as well as a reality: Islam is not, by any definition, a race.

And in my experience "the average Tory" - whatever or whoever that  might be -  no more hates Muslims than the average Labour Party supporter hates Jews.

Still refusing to recognize reality? Talk to tommy...it's instructive.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:59 am

Original Quill wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

I am not "hiding" behind anything; I am simply stating an indisputable fact - as well as a reality: Islam is not, by any definition, a race.

And in my experience "the average Tory" - whatever or whoever that  might be -  no more hates Muslims than the average Labour Party supporter hates Jews.

Still refusing to recognize reality?  Talk to tommy...it's instructive.

If you think Tommy's views are "average Tory"....you clearly haven't met many average Tories.
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:21 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
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Still refusing to recognize reality?  Talk to tommy...it's instructive.

If you think Tommy's views are "average Tory"....you clearly haven't met many average Tories.

Well, beyond tommy, there is nowhere else to go in Toryville. Laughing

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