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Post by Andy on Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:39 pm

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Global warming could see the unprecedented heatwave occurring across the world.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Climate change: 'Hothouse Earth' risks even if CO₂ emissions slashed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45084144

I blame arsehole like Tommy Monkey brain and his climate change denying wankers for not admitting we have a big problem.

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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:33 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This is just one graph I found after looking for a couple of minutes...


Try looking for a while and you will find more detailed analysis from multiple sources that corroborate what I say...




You looked for?

What does that tell everyone here?

You mean you had no idea what you were looking actually at?

I suggest, you try actually understanding what you are looking at Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:44 pm

I looked for an example to post here for YOU TO LOOK AT!


Stop trying to split hairs with me...


There are plenty of reputable and independent historical sources out there that show the truth on temperatures over the years...


Try looking yourself... and you will start finding...


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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:49 pm

And there you ave it

I posted evidence and arguments for tommy

Tommy ignores them

Then claims to post arguments to me

wow

This is what you call, someone blind to his faith

Dogmatic

Now, can anyone show anywhere, that Tommy actually addressed my points?

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:27 am

Cool

Tommy doesn't even recognise the inherent fundamental differences between the concepts of "climate" and localised "weather" events...

If Tommy doesn't even know what climate actually is, how can he possibly expect his idiotic opnions on climate change to be taken seriously ???

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:19 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Cool

Tommy doesn't even recognise the inherent fundamental differences between the concepts of "climate" and localised "weather" events...

If Tommy doesn't even know what climate actually is,  how can he possibly expect his idiotic opnions on climate change to be taken seriously  ???

Indeed and he is not even debating anything posed to him. He is simple denying everything

Hence when Fred claims, that he debates and argues well, I am yet to see this.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:00 pm

It's not me who is denying the facts...

It is fleakeeper denying 'the mini ice age', and didge denying the temperatures have been mostly warmer or just as warm as now over the last 2000 years... and if you look at over last 5000 years you will see the same thing!!!


So what point is there to say any more to two idiots who deny the truth...???

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:04 pm

So nothing again from Tommy to counter my points

In fact what did I say about the lst 2,000 years?

Here they are again

The cold little ice age is accurate. That is the only thing he has said that was correct.

Love to understand how Fred thinks Tommy is correct on everything else though and I hope his girlfriend is up to scratch on climate science and would love to see what she thinks on everything else Tommy said. 

Like in regards to his claim on CO2 being roughly the same over thousands of years???

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Or how he wrongly said that over the last 2,000 years, it has been warmer or just as warm as now. This was blatantly incorrect and using bad data.

For example in the years 950 to 1150, areas did become warmer, but certainly no where near as warm today. This was more localized with Europe. Which allowed for the Vikings to migrate to Greenland and live. However other parts became also cooler at this time. Hence it was not global warming. Of which we are going through today. Hence if you average out the tempreture globally for the time. It was no where near as warm globally today.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 2000-years-of-global-temperature



Here is a graph from an independent source that does not have any climate change waffle agenda...!!!

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:07 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 2000-years-of-global-temperature



Here is a graph from an independent source that does not have any climate change waffle agenda...!!!

Your graph only goes up to the year 2000

ha ha ha and it shows it rising

So what you are showing me is crap and again is localized and not a global graph

Hence it proves you are talking shit mate

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:10 pm

Here is more for you Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:22 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 2000-years-of-global-temperature



Here is a graph from an independent source that does not have any climate change waffle agenda...!!!

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:24 pm

ha ha ha ha

So as seen, Tommy does not want to actually look at the evidence and continues to post up one graph, that only goes to the year 2000 and is a localized graph and not a global one for tempreture

Priceless

Hence the debate is now over, as he simple cannot respond to any single point

Thanks for playing Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:33 pm

You post biased nonsense from sources that have an agenda...


Try posting some unbiased independent stuff and I'll take a look...



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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:43 pm

Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 Gisp-last-10000-new

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 Gisp-last-10000-new

You're only looking at Greenland in that graph, Tommy. We're talking about global warming. You have to look at the whole, um, globe.

Also worth noting that your source, Joanne Nova, acknowledges that C02 is a greenhouse gas and that pumping it into the atmosphere will undoubtedly warm the planet. The only way in which she differs with the majority of climate scientists is that she thinks the warming will happen more slowly.

And you know what? I sure as hell hope she's right!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:03 pm

Ice core data is a reliable indicator of global temperatures you fool!!!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:09 pm



I bet if I showed you only the last 500 years of that same graph... then you would be raving about how it was conclusive proof of global warming/climate change and how ice core data was conclusive evidence of global temperatures!!!


lol!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:29 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I bet if I showed you only the last 500 years of that same graph... then you would be raving about how it was conclusive proof of global warming/climate change and how ice core data was conclusive evidence of global temperatures!!!


lol!

I bet if I showed you only the tip of my magnificent penis ... then you would run off and hang yourself!!!


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:37 pm

No I'd go and get a magnifying glass to be able to have any chance to see it... a clothes peg for my nose... and probably call you a doctor to sort out the STDs...

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:49 pm

lol!

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:54 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 Gisp-last-10000-new

You're only looking at Greenland in that graph, Tommy. We're talking about global warming. You have to look at the whole, um, globe.

Also worth noting that your source, Joanne Nova, acknowledges that C02 is a greenhouse gas and that pumping it into the atmosphere will undoubtedly warm the planet. The only way in which she differs with the majority of climate scientists is that she thinks the warming will happen more slowly.

And you know what? I sure as hell hope she's right!

Mate I simple think, he seriously just cannot grasp it.

Its painful to watch and why, when he avoids everything, its pointless continuing

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:58 pm



Ice core data is a reliable indicator of global temperatures you fool!!!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:34 pm

And the graph is not created by Joanne Nova... the source of the graph is written on the graph...


So Joanne Novas' opinion on CO2 is irrelevant...



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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:01 pm



What a brilliant argument to rubbish people so stupid and ignorant to look at the mass of evidence

This is why people like Tommy, contrary to what Fred thinks, are talking crap

People like Tommy, are like I said religiously fanatical in their warped beliefs on science

In other words, its them taking something they have little understanding on and continue to spout the same drivel

I would not mind if Tommy actually had a grasp of what he is talking about, but he never does. All he does, is spout verbatim, the same drivel.

Its like I have already said and even more, when he claims such weather comes in cycles.

Well such cycles have brought devastation to this planet.

So whether or not you believe humans are responsible for the rapid rise in climate change. Then you clearly have to be a complete dick, not to want to do something about this.

Eiether way, if humans can do something about the rapid rise of climate change, then its really a no brainer to do something about this. No matter if you are skeptical of human influence.

As what do you have to lose by not doing something?

Everything

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:17 pm



Now as centrist and right leaning conservative. I dispair at those on the right so ignorant on science. We have uneducated armchair warriors, who are simple clueless, thinking they no better, by one simple reason.

Faith

Tommy is like I say a fundementalist

Not once has he actually tackled a single point many have made on here and why?

The simple reason, is not that he is not intelligent, he is. Its more about the fact he is ruled by emotions and fear. He will rightly speak out about bad beliefs, and yet hold similar poor beliefs himself

Its the worst hypocrisy going

Now I have posed some very simple points to him and throughout, he has done as he always does. Continually avoide tackling these scientific facts

Look at how he posts one graph. A graph that on is specific to Greenland and not ones that are global. It shows the limitation of what he is able to understand and even worse, how he is unable to skeptically challenge them

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:30 pm

I posted 2 graphs didge...


Both independent scientific accounts of temperature...


I know this truth is a little bit inconvenient for you... but it is still the truth...!!!

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:32 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I posted 2 graphs didge...


Both independent scientific accounts of temperature...


I know this truth is a little bit inconvenient for you... but it is still the truth...!!!


You posted one graph for one area at the time

You simple ignore my graphs that show global warming

I know you are simple dogmatic in your belief

So how about you actually tackle my points

Instead of relying on a graph, that actually proves my point?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:56 pm



Come off it didge... the climate change promoters have been caught out fudging the figures of the graphs they create...!



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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:59 pm

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Come off it didge... the climate change promoters have been caught out fudging the figures of the graphs they create...!



Really?

And you base this on what evidence?

That now 97% of climate change scientists are all part of a conspiracy?

Please explain to me for what actual gain?

Saving the planet?

This is why you are so thick Tommy

If I am wrong, what is the harm in doing the right thing to decrease CO2 levels?

If you are wrong, then the human and animal race is fucked

Have you actually contemplated your stupidity on this yet?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:16 pm



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html




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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html





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Christopher Booker is a columnist for the Sunday Telegraph in the UK. He also writes regular columns for The Spectator and is a long-standing contributor to Private Eye.


He is an anti-science crank with a range and depth quite astonishing for a journalist of such eminence. Possibly, his long association with Private Eye, which habitually pokes fun at The Great And Good has clouded his judgement. In seeing scientists as "establishment" figures, with their obscure language and ivory towers, he mistrusts them as a reflex reaction. While it is possible to hold plausible opinions on politics without much expert knowledge, the same is not true of science. Many deniers and cranks do not appear to appreciate this difference — Booker is certainly among them.


https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christopher_Booker

So Tommy's evidence is not scientists, but journalists

One moment

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:27 am

Smile

That Christopher Booker character seems to come from the Tommy Monk/Fred Moletrousers school of anti-science "logic" and corporatist shilldom ???

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:31 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Smile

That Christopher Booker character seems to come from the Tommy Monk/Fred Moletrousers school of anti-science "logic" and corporatist shilldom  ???


Lol mate, sadly Tommy lost what little credability he had by posting that link, by a journalist crank

It proves once again my views on Tommy. That he is dogmatic and a fundementalist. He wont dare actually look at the evidence. He places this down to faith in idiots and this is seen by him posting the views of a journalist muppet with no idea on science and a complete crank

I simple disapir at watching Tommy struggle here and really do in a way care how silly he is, on his beliefs.

At least i challenge my beliefs mate and why I have been able to admit in my life I have been wrong and changed

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:09 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html





The climate change 'scientists' have been caught lying and fudging the figures... exposed by honest scientists and reported by journalists...!


Didge thinks that he is taken seriously with his posting of stuff from the 'Goddard institute'... when in fact... they are one of the main ones who have been caught lying!!!


Try reading the article, many others are available that show the climate change lot lying, and try addressing the points raised in the article instead of just attacking the writer...!!!

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:36 am

See wolf, he is doing it again, talking loads, but not actualky taking on a single point. He really is the artful dodger and still using a crank jounralist as his source

lol!

Good thing we do not have muppets like him as teachers

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:27 pm

I've shown temperatures over the last 2000 years and 10000 years... both show that most of time it is warmer or as warm as now...!!!


I've shown that climate change 'scientists' have been caught manipulating the figures and lying...!!!


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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:27 pm

Didge wrote:See wolf, he is doing it again, talking loads, but not actualky taking on a single point. He really is the artful dodger and still using a crank jounralist as his source

lol!

Good thing we do not have muppets like him as teachers

You should keep your big nose out.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:17 pm

Here are 2 IPCC graphs... one from 1990 and another from 2001...


Spot the difference...?


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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Here are 2 IPCC graphs... one from 1990 and another from 2001...


Spot the difference...?


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Does anyone else wnat to point out Tommy's stupidity here?

Its Priceless

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:23 pm

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:24 pm

I've shown temperatures over the last 2000 years and 10000 years... both show that most of time it is warmer or as warm as now...!!!


I've shown that climate change 'scientists' have been caught manipulating the figures and lying...!!!


Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 ?format=1000w


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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:25 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Here are 2 IPCC graphs... one from 1990 and another from 2001...


Spot the difference...?


Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 Jham_HockeyStickGraphGlobalWarming_1



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Does anyone else wnat to point out Tommy's stupidity here?

Its Priceless


lol!

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I've shown temperatures over the last 2000 years and 10000 years... both show that most of time it is warmer or as warm as now...!!!


I've shown that climate change 'scientists' have been caught manipulating the figures and lying...!!!


Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 ?format=1000w


lol! lol!

This is even funnier, what else has tommy failed to grasp here?

This is why I am going to continue to laugh at Tommy and it proves he has not got the first clue what he is talking about

Priceless

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:27 pm

Share the joke then numpty... and we'll see who the idiot is...

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:See wolf, he is doing it again, talking loads, but not actualky taking on a single point. He really is the artful dodger and still using a crank jounralist as his source

lol!

Good thing we do not have muppets like him as teachers

You should keep your big nose out.


Only when you get your fat arse out of the way

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Share the joke then numpty... and we'll see who the idiot is...

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:30 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Here are 2 IPCC graphs... one from 1990 and another from 2001...


Spot the difference...?


Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 Jham_HockeyStickGraphGlobalWarming_1



Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 3489511464

Does anyone else wnat to point out Tommy's stupidity here?

Its Priceless


lol!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:33 pm



The only stupid person here is you dodge...!!!



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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:33 pm

Didge wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:I've shown temperatures over the last 2000 years and 10000 years... both show that most of time it is warmer or as warm as now...!!!


I've shown that climate change 'scientists' have been caught manipulating the figures and lying...!!!


Hothouse earth is on its way - Page 2 ?format=1000w


lol! lol!

This is even funnier, what else has tommy failed to grasp here?

This is why I am going to continue to laugh at Tommy and it proves he has not got the first clue what he is talking about

Priceless


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