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Post by Didge on Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:45 pm

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Tents in which migrants live are seen in a makeshift camp along the Quai de Valmy of the canal Saint-Martin CREDIT: REUTERS/PHILIPPE WOJAZER

Illegal immigrants, now estimated to make up a fifth of the population of Seine-Saint-Denis, north-east of Paris, are severely straining public services and creating social tensions, according to a parliamentary report.

Seine-Saint-Denis has long been the French department with the highest proportion of immigrants, but the report warns that the number of illegal migrants may have risen as high as 400,000.

The report catalogues what the conservative newspaper Le Figaro describes as “the incredible deterioration of social, economic and security conditions” in the area, where 28 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line.

Police, schools, courts and other public services are struggling to cope, while the presence of undocumented foreign nationals is blocking the implementation of effective policies by the authorities, argue the two MPs who wrote the report.

Rodrigue Koukouendo, from President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist party, and François Cornut-Gentille from the centre-Right Republicans, are urging the government to review France’s ban on gathering data on the ethnic makeup of the population so that immigrant numbers can be better monitored and regulated.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/05/illegal-migrants-paris-suburb-soar-400000-hundreds-migrant-children/

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:47 pm

Didge wrote:He never answers points just like you Quill

So you recognize it as a pattern too, didge?  The reason is, you never make any points.

You're so busy with your gymnastics with truth and logic, trickery with phrasing, and personal antagonisms, that you don't have time for actual content.

On a related matter, you're getting better at deceit.  Keep practicing and you'll end up in Carnegie Hall.

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Didge wrote:He never answers points just like you Quill

So you recognize it as a pattern too, didge?  The reason is, you never make any points.

You're so busy with your gymnastics with truth and logic, trickery with words, and personal antagonisms, that you don't have time for actual content.

On a related matter, you're getting better at deceit.  Keep practicing and you'll end up in Carnegie Hall.
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Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

So you recognize it as a pattern too, didge?  The reason is, you never make any points.

You're so busy with your gymnastics with truth and logic, trickery with words, and personal antagonisms, that you don't have time for actual content.

On a related matter, you're getting better at deceit.  Keep practicing and you'll end up in Carnegie Hall.
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Thank you for proving my points

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Post by nicko on Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:54 pm

Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !
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Post by gelico on Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:33 pm

nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !


nicko,

quill is the worst type of racist. He thinks he can hide it and just accuses others of the thing he is most guilty of

ignore him


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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:48 pm

nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !

Look, nicko! I don't see anything wrong with Africans gathering in and around Paris. They seem a decent sort, just down on their luck a little.

A wealthy, modern country like France should find a little Christian charity in its heart, and help them out. (They manage to put up all these churches and support all these monasteries, this is just another outlet for their generosity.)

Not everything is a war game, nicko. Not everyone is the enemy. There are other aspects of life...we don't need to kill everyone who is not us. Chill...

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nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !
I have never seen you make any racist remarks Nicko.
People in your real life know what you are like, if a minority of people on forums prefer to portray you differently, so what?

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Syl wrote:
nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !
I have never seen you make any racist remarks Nicko.
People in your real life know what you are like, if a minority of people on forums prefer to portray you differently, so what?

I have always said, nicko's sins are in killing babies in foreign countries.  I've not heard a racist remark from his lips.

A racist position???  Maybe...but never a racist remark.  Twisted Evil

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Re: Illegal migrants in Paris suburb soar to 400,000 as hundreds of migrant children sleep on streets

Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:17 pm

They are there illegally and need rounding up and deporting!!!


Otherwise the numbers will escalate and problems will spiral out of control!!!



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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:They are there illegally and need rounding up and deporting!!!

Otherwise the numbers will escalate and problems will spiral out of control!!!

All you need to do is change the law, then welcome them. There are no problems and nothing is out of control, except in your mind, tommy.

It's a totally fabricated problem, by the right. Maybe if we deported the righties, if they are so all fired up about xenophobia ... there, problem solved. Wink

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:25 pm

Didge wrote:Let me put this into perspective

If I had a gun and had to choose between Veya and Tommy to stop hate.

It would be a very easay decisison

I would not only shoot Tommy, I would behead him

He is a nasty rascist and bigoted geranium

Yet I think Veya is a nasty hateful geranium

It shows Tommy is a nasty hateful geranium

Do you not understand how out of order that was? I'm basementing you until further notice.

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Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:They are there illegally and need rounding up and deporting!!!

Otherwise the numbers will escalate and problems will spiral out of control!!!

All you need to do is change the law, then welcome them.  There are no problems and nothing is out of control, except in your mind, tommy.

It's a totally fabricated problem, by the right.  Maybe if we deported the righties, if they are so all fired up about xenophobia ... there, problem solved.  Wink


Have you gone completely insane...!!!???


"...change the law, then welcome them.  There are no problems and nothing is out of control... It's a totally fabricated problem, by the right.  Maybe if we deported the righties, if they are so all fired up about xenophobia ... there, problem solved..."



What the fuk are you waffling about...!!!???


Don't you know that the vast majority of French people are socialists...?


And...


'...A BVA opinion poll earlier this month showed that 63 percent of French voters consider there are too many immigrants in France...'



That's 63% saying too many LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!


The % against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS will be very much higher!!!



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Tommy Monk wrote:'...A BVA opinion poll earlier this month showed that 63 percent of French voters consider there are too many immigrants in France...'

I'll bet the Africans didn't vote that way. I'll bet the poll-takers didn't even ask the Africans. These are wonderful, fine people, who would love to contribute to the French society, and would probably lend a lot.

All you need to do is change the laws to include them, then the 'we-they' problem goes away.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:06 am

They are illegal immigrants who need to be deported... France already has a system for legal immigration...!



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Tommy Monk wrote:They are illegal immigrants who need to be deported... France already has a system for legal immigration...!

Everyone was an illegal immigrant at one time or another. Be a sport and leave the gate open, like someone did for you.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:27 am



Stop waffling bollocks you idiot.



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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:34 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Stop waffling bollocks you idiot.

That's it? That's all you've got to say?

Go home, weakling. If you want to run with the big dogs,
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Post by gelico on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:Let me put this into perspective

If I had a gun and had to choose between Veya and Tommy to stop hate.

It would be a very easay decisison

I would not only shoot Tommy, I would behead him

He is a nasty rascist and bigoted geranium

Yet I think Veya is a nasty hateful geranium

It shows Tommy is a nasty hateful geranium

Do you not understand how out of order that was? I'm basementing you until further notice.


I'm not sure but I think this was just a piss take, Ben. Not to be taken seriously,,,,,just didge being didge ya know

is he still stuck in the basement?



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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:07 pm

gelico wrote:
Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Do you not understand how out of order that was? I'm basementing you until further notice.


I'm not sure but I think this was just a piss take, Ben.  Not to  be taken seriously,,,,,just didge being didge ya know

is he still stuck in the basement?


Every criminal holds a "just kiddin'..." in his back pocket.  It's akin to "I didn't do it..." and "you got the wrong guy...".

Having tried hundreds of criminal cases, I can assure you: When crooks aren't robbing banks, they are busy making up alibis and excuses.

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Post by nicko on Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:48 pm

A bit like you left wingers then ?
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nicko wrote:A bit like you left wingers then ?

That's not even sensible. Left winger, right winger...crooks are crooks. All I'm saying is all crooks lie to save their ass.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:38 am

gelico wrote:
nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !


nicko,

quill is the worst type of racist.  He thinks he can hide it and just accuses others of the thing he is most guilty of

ignore him

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With her head stuck so far up the arses of the likes of such fine fellow floptards and patriots as smelly', Deano, nems and HT; that she wouldn't know whether it's night or day..

She's the last person who should be throwing such laughingly false labels at her opponents.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:05 am

Wolfie, why are you such an arsehole when replying to Women ? Your forever insulting and putting them down. It seems to me that you are a really nasty person who is actually frightened of Women and this is your way of "proving" your manhood. The term "keyboard Warrior" applies to you, in spades !
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Post by Syl on Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:13 pm

nicko wrote:Wolfie,  why are you such an arsehole when replying to Women ?  Your forever insulting and putting them down.    It seems to me that you are a really nasty person who is actually frightened of Women and this is your way of "proving" your manhood.   The term "keyboard Warrior" applies to you,  in spades !
My theory is men who habitually target women to insult and try to put them down, whether that be on forums or in the real world, have been rejected or ignored by the fairer sex throughout their lives.......it's their way of trying to even the score.
Sad really.

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Post by magica on Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:16 pm

nicko wrote:Wolfie,  why are you such an arsehole when replying to Women ?  Your forever insulting and putting them down.    It seems to me that you are a really nasty person who is actually frightened of Women and this is your way of "proving" your manhood.   The term "keyboard Warrior" applies to you,  in spades !

Very true Nicko. I gave him a greeny it was meant to be red. He's one of the worse trolls ive ever seen. Since im ignoring him, he can say what he likes about me, I laugh at him, the sucker.

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Post by Syl on Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:24 pm

magica wrote:
nicko wrote:Wolfie,  why are you such an arsehole when replying to Women ?  Your forever insulting and putting them down.    It seems to me that you are a really nasty person who is actually frightened of Women and this is your way of "proving" your manhood.   The term "keyboard Warrior" applies to you,  in spades !

Very true Nicko.  I gave him a greeny it was meant to be red.  He's one of the worse trolls ive ever seen. Since im ignoring him, he can say what he likes about me, I laugh at him, the sucker.
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Post by magica on Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:16 pm

Syl wrote:
magica wrote:

Very true Nicko.  I gave him a greeny it was meant to be red.  He's one of the worse trolls ive ever seen. Since im ignoring him, he can say what he likes about me, I laugh at him, the sucker.
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Post by eddie on Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:36 pm

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gelico wrote:
nicko wrote:Waste of time me being here when Quill keeps insisting I'm racist, inever made any comment about colour except explaining about some of my Family. I'v had enough of it !


nicko,

quill is the worst type of racist.  He thinks he can hide it and just accuses others of the thing he is most guilty of

ignore him

Rolling Eyes

Scumbag racist & xenophobic flopette, and hens club and knitting circle member,  gelibelly...

With her head stuck so far up the arses of the likes of such fine fellow floptards and patriots as smelly', Deano, nems and HT; that she wouldn't know whether it's night or day..

She's the last person who should be throwing such laughingly false labels at her opponents.


“Flopette” “Floptards” “gelibelly”

You sound like a six year old.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:59 pm

What's happening with the immigrants camped along the Quai de Valmy? Have they received any aid, medical care, nutrition for the young?

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Post by nicko on Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 pm

They should be given food and drink, a few Quid to last them and put on a bus and returned to country of origin !They have turned Paris into a shithole. [and I don't care if they are Black, White or fucking Indigo.
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nicko wrote:They should be given food and drink,   a few Quid to last them and put on a bus and returned to country of origin  !They have turned Paris into a shithole. [and I don't care if they are Black, White or fucking Indigo.

Why on earth? It's much easier to merely change the law, making them legal...perhaps even citizens.

And yes, you do care if they are "Black, White or fucking indigo", as you wouldn't hesitate to invite them in if they were from Norway.

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Re: Illegal migrants in Paris suburb soar to 400,000 as hundreds of migrant children sleep on streets

Post by eddie on Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:26 pm

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nicko wrote:They should be given food and drink,   a few Quid to last them and put on a bus and returned to country of origin  !They have turned Paris into a shithole. [and I don't care if they are Black, White or fucking Indigo.

Why on earth?  It's much easier to merely change the law, making them legal...perhaps even citizens.

And yes, you do care if they are "Black, White or fucking indigo", as you wouldn't hesitate to invite them in if they were from Norway.

He just said he didn’t care about the colour or creed. So if you don’t believe him why would you bother debating with him? Seeing as you seem to know exactly what people really think it’s hardly worth speaking to them or engaging them in any form of discussion. Wouldn’t you say?
I mean, why waste your time engaging with a liar?

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:30 pm

eddie Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why on earth?  It's much easier to merely change the law, making them legal...perhaps even citizens.

And yes, you do care if they are "Black, White or fucking indigo", as you wouldn't hesitate to invite them in if they were from Norway.

He just said he didn’t care about the colour or creed. So if you don’t believe him why would you bother debating with him?  Seeing as you seem to know exactly what people really think it’s hardly worth speaking to them or engaging them in any form of discussion.  Wouldn’t you say?
I mean, why waste your time engaging with a liar?

You misread what I said. He does care about color, because he would love to invite people from Norway in. That, plus Indigo, makes a hat-trick. Razz

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Post by eddie on Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:21 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why on earth?  It's much easier to merely change the law, making them legal...perhaps even citizens.

And yes, you do care if they are "Black, White or fucking indigo", as you wouldn't hesitate to invite them in if they were from Norway.

He just said he didn’t care about the colour or creed. So if you don’t believe him why would you bother debating with him?  Seeing as you seem to know exactly what people really think it’s hardly worth speaking to them or engaging them in any form of discussion.  Wouldn’t you say?
I mean, why waste your time engaging with a liar?

You misread what I said.  He does care about color, because he would love to invite people from Norway in.  That, plus Indigo, makes a hat-trick.  Razz

Yeah...no....my point still stands and you can’t refute it either.

That’s the trouble with some of you - your arguments are old and worn and unimaginative.
And lazy.

Someone says something negative about a black man?
Racist!
Someone says something negative about a woman?
Sexist!
Someone says something negative about a dog?
Animal hater!

Etc ad finitum.

Really. Just be fluid and realise not everything is black and white and not everything fits into your carefully constructed little boxes.
Not everything needs a label.

It’s lazy.
And boring.
And sometimes, really tiring.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Where did I say I would invite in people from Norway ? Quill you'v lost the plot, I said no such thing !







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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:54 pm

eddie Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You misread what I said.  He does care about color, because he would love to invite people from Norway in.  That, plus Indigo, makes a hat-trick.  Razz

Yeah...no....my point still stands and you can’t refute it either.

That’s the trouble with some of you - your arguments are old and worn and unimaginative.
And lazy.

Someone says something negative about a black man?
Racist!
Someone says something negative about a woman?
Sexist!
Someone says something negative about a dog?
Animal hater!

Etc ad finitum.

Really. Just be fluid and realise not everything is black and white and not everything fits into your carefully constructed little boxes.
Not everything needs a label.

It’s lazy.
And boring.
And sometimes, really tiring.

Got it. As old as I am, I'll change...but just for you.

I am now a racist, sexist, cocker spaniel hater.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:20 pm

But do you like Labradors ?
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Post by eddie on Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:27 am

Original Quill wrote:
eddie Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You misread what I said.  He does care about color, because he would love to invite people from Norway in.  That, plus Indigo, makes a hat-trick.  Razz

Yeah...no....my point still stands and you can’t refute it either.

That’s the trouble with some of you - your arguments are old and worn and unimaginative.
And lazy.

Someone says something negative about a black man?
Racist!
Someone says something negative about a woman?
Sexist!
Someone says something negative about a dog?
Animal hater!

Etc ad finitum.

Really. Just be fluid and realise not everything is black and white and not everything fits into your carefully constructed little boxes.
Not everything needs a label.

It’s lazy.
And boring.
And sometimes, really tiring.

Got it.  As old as I am, I'll change...but just for you.

I am now a racist, sexist, cocker spaniel hater.

Great! Always stay fluid man. Cool

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