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Post by Andy on Thu May 31, 2018 9:08 am

Surprised ( or not so) that there has been no mention of this foul woman's racism.
Fortunely, her employers and colleagues also think she is disgusting.
Hopefully, she will live with her hatred forever and sink into a self imposed oblivion.
America's answer to our own Katie Hopkins.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 31, 2018 10:18 am

Angry Andy wrote:Surprised ( or not so) that there has been no mention of this foul woman's racism.
Fortunely, her employers and colleagues also think she is disgusting.
Hopefully, she will live with her hatred forever and sink into a self imposed oblivion.
America's answer to our own Katie Hopkins.

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unlike for instance Keith Oberlmann and others on the left who have been pretty vile to to trump and his family.

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I am not defending roseanne in any way, just pointing out the usual left wing hypocrisy

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Post by Syl on Thu May 31, 2018 1:12 pm

She has always struck me as an unlikeable loud mouthed drunk.




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Post by Original Quill on Thu May 31, 2018 4:18 pm

Deano wrote:I am not defending roseanne in any way, just pointing out the usual left wing hypocrisy

I've never seen such comparisons on commercial TV, deano.  I've seen comparisons of conservatives to knuckledraggers:

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But that tag is no different than Snowflake for Democrats, inasmuch as reflects the common Republican conception.  And, that is only on social media, not commercial TV.

I think, when it comes to commercial TV, the companies have to be protective of their image.  Trump and the common right is so unpopular right now that any reference to their jokes and metaphors is bound to cost their sponsors money.  They can't have it.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 31, 2018 4:28 pm

every time this is mentioned in the press it is always about the trump supporting comedian.

however when harvey weinstein, alleged multiple rapist and abuser of women is mentioned they dont refer to him as hillliary clinton or obama supporting democratic alleged rapist
they don't show video of him being praised by Michelle or photos with hilliary. #Hypocrisy

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 31, 2018 4:30 pm

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Deano wrote:I am not defending roseanne in any way, just pointing out the usual left wing hypocrisy

I've never seen such comparisons on commercial TV, deano.  I've seen comparisons of conservatives to knuckledraggers:

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But that tag is no different than Snowflake for Democrats, inasmuch as reflects the common Republican conception.  And, that is only on social media, not commercial TV.

I think, when it comes to commercial TV, the companies have to be protective of their image.  Trump and the common right is so unpopular right now that any reference to their jokes and metaphors is bound to cost their sponsors money.  They can't have it.
of course you haven't, your eyes are closed to what is being posted by left wing comedians.
you wont even consider the hypocrisy of the DNC and the left in america. but suggesting american trump voters are monkeys is fine.
More and more of those voters are black you know. they are finding their way off the DNC plantation .

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Post by Original Quill on Thu May 31, 2018 5:06 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:every time this is mentioned in the press it is always about the trump supporting comedian.

however when harvey weinstein, alleged multiple rapist and abuser of women is mentioned they dont refer to him as hillliary clinton or obama supporting democratic alleged rapist
they don't show video of him being praised by Michelle or photos with hilliary. #Hypocrisy

There is no mass identification of Weinstein with HRC. Clinton never publicly promoted anti-female causes in the way that Trump promotes the racist cause. Indeed, Hilary Clinton is a female herself.

There is little doubt that pussy-grabber paved the way to legitimizing the white supremacist ideology in the US. Before he ran, he spun the birther movement. He used the 'other' identification to refer to blacks, beginning during his campaign, and:

Huffincton Post wrote:...many would argue that it started about 45 years ago when the U.S. Justice Department sued Trump twice for refusing to rent apartments to blacks). He’s also reportedly claimed that blacks are “lazy.” There are accusations that black workers were routinely removed from the floor of his Atlantic City casinos before his arrival. And he’s been criticized for stoking the flames of bigotry in 1989 with his media campaign against the Central Park Five; black youths accused, convicted and ultimately exonerated in the brutal rape attack of a female jogger.

He makes disparaging remarks all the time, unabashedly since declaring his candidacy:

Huffington Post wrote:Since officially becoming a candidate for president in June 2015, Trump has ratcheted up his racist behavior to unthinkable levels. He refers to African-Americans as “the blacks.” Asked “Where’s my African American?” at a rally. Encouraged violence against a black protestor at another rally. Offered to pay legal expenses for a white supporter who sucker-punched a black protestor. Lied about knowing the KKK’s David Duke and refused to disavow the racist organization or its former Grand Wizard. And frequently re-Tweeted white supremacy [quips].

Charlottesville was the clincher. "The black community doesn’t exist in Trump’s elitist, billionaire purview. Blacks are not his equals and aren’t worthy of his time." Ibid. It's a totally alien world to Donald Trump.

So, when Roseanne speaks in the same way--particularly when her sit-com so publicly shows her support of Trump--she is justifiably recognized as in league with Trump. By contrast, Clinton doesn't even have a sit-com buddy with whom she would lock arms. So it would be totally unnatural to link a show business character with her, despite the brief acquaintance.

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Post by Original Quill on Thu May 31, 2018 5:15 pm

Deno wrote:of course you haven't, your eyes are closed to what is being posted by left wing comedians.

you wont even consider the hypocrisy of the DNC and the left in america. but suggesting american trump voters are monkeys is fine.

More and more of those voters are black you know. they are finding their way off the DNC plantation .

No one would contest--least of all the pussy-grabber himself--that Trump has opened the gates to a new morality of disparagement and open racial hostility.

As I say, when it affects the bottom line--as it does for ABC, and it's owner, Disney Enterprises--you know as well as anybody that the $$$ will prevail.

Since the new morality doesn't come from the left, their conflict with big-time commercial TV has not yet happened.

I think you are crying over a false equivalency here, Deano.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 31, 2018 5:30 pm

Monkey and ape are specific derogatory words for black people that don't have the same racist connotation when they're leveled at white people.

Don't agree? You don't have to, because you're not American, DYK. You don't know our culture.

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Post by eddie on Thu May 31, 2018 7:25 pm

head said
unlike for instance Keith Oberlmann and others on the left who have been pretty vile to to trump and his family.

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Except Donald Trump isn’t black. That’s the difference.

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Post by eddie on Thu May 31, 2018 7:26 pm

Oh okay, I see Ben already said it. Rolling Eyes


Pfffffff. I’m always late to the party.

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:25 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:every time this is mentioned in the press it is always about the trump supporting comedian.

however when harvey weinstein, alleged multiple rapist and abuser of women is mentioned they dont refer to him as hillliary clinton or obama supporting democratic alleged rapist
they don't show video of him being praised by Michelle or photos with hilliary. #Hypocrisy

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:43 am

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Post by Jules on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:15 am

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:Monkey and ape are specific derogatory words for black people that don't have the same racist connotation when they're leveled at white people.

Don't agree? You don't have to, because you're not American, DYK. You don't know our culture.

Agree.
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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:16 pm

Cool

Deano's just as big a xenophobic DYKhead as ever before on here...

That's one leopard that will never change his spots..

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Post by Andy on Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:22 pm

Dykhead is the forum seagull.
Flies by once in a while, drops his shit on the forum, before fucking off back to his sordid and fishy little nest.


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Post by eddie on Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:51 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Dykhead is the forum seagull.
Flies by once in a while, drops his shit on the forum, before fucking off back to his sordid little nest.

Hmmm, well actually looking around at all the posts he made whilst online the other day, he made more sensible posts than you, Andy.
He contributed greatly to the golf thread, for instance.

Just let it go, for gawd sake. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:27 pm

Umm...this isn't a thread about Dean, It's a thread about the ideas behind the racial hatred of Roseanne Barr, and associated topics.

I'm delighted to see that Dean has stopped by. Always some valuable discussions when he is around.

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:32 pm

Original Quill wrote:Umm...this isn't a thread about Dean,  It's a thread about the ideas behind the racial hatred of Roseanne Barr, and associated topics.

I'm delighted to see that Dean has stopped by.  Always some valuable discussions when he is around.

Yes, we know. We tell Andy all the time to stop wittering on about head but it doesn’t seem to matter.
And actually, I’m alays glad to see head too. He at least has an answer to and a reason for, everything he posts.

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Post by Andy on Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:37 am

Interesting to see that Roseanne Barr's ex hubby has called her a racist conspiracy theorist.
Perhaps she should elope with Tommy.
A match made in heaven.

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:08 pm

eddie wrote:Yes, we know. We tell Andy all the time to stop wittering on about head but it doesn’t seem to matter.

Um...pardon, but you missed my point.

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