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Post by Didge on Tue May 29, 2018 7:51 pm

Too few women and people from ethnic minority groups cycle in London and more must be done to promote diversity among a largely white, male and middle class biking community, the city’s walking and cycling commissioner has said. Grand schemes, such as the Cycle Superhighway network of partially-segregated routes linking the suburbs with the centre, are too often perceived as simply a way of getting “middle-aged men cycling faster around the city”, Will Norman acknowledged.

He said he was considering setting diversity targets for London’s cycling population to ensure progress was achieved.


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue May 29, 2018 8:14 pm



He needs to fuk off and start trying to sort out the crime epidemic among those who are non white first!!!



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Post by Vintage on Tue May 29, 2018 8:26 pm

How do you set diversity targets for cycling? You can't force people .

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Post by Didge on Tue May 29, 2018 8:27 pm

Vintage wrote:How do you set diversity targets for cycling? You can't force people .


I am as baffled as you are on this Vintage

Its bonkers

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue May 29, 2018 8:35 pm

They probably want to spend taxpayers money on new free bikes for all the ethnics....



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Post by Vintage on Tue May 29, 2018 8:41 pm

I doubt a lot of women want to get cycling, you'd have to have showers and changing facilities at work and start out that much earlier to get there and shower and change, do your make up and hair before you start your job, you get very dirty cycling along in traffic even in a cycle lane although I understand all women don't fit this stereotype.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue May 29, 2018 9:22 pm

Vintage wrote:How do you set diversity targets for cycling? You can't force people .

And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good. He's just a commissioner, making public his views.

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Post by gelico on Tue May 29, 2018 9:26 pm

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Vintage wrote:How do you set diversity targets for cycling? You can't force people .

And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good.  He's just a commissioner, making public his views.

Diversity is good,,,,,,Letting people make up their own damn minds is even better

he's a twat

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Post by Original Quill on Tue May 29, 2018 9:27 pm

Vintage wrote:I doubt a lot of women want to get cycling, you'd have to have showers and changing facilities at work and start out that much earlier to get there and shower and change, do your make up and hair before you start your job, you get very dirty cycling along in traffic even in a cycle lane although I understand all women don't fit this stereotype.

What?? Men can have stinky balls, but women must have sweet smelling vaginas? I've always had showers in my offices...for bikers, joggers, or gymnasts, whatever.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue May 29, 2018 9:28 pm

gelico wrote:
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And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good.  He's just a commissioner, making public his views.

Diversity is good,,,,,,Letting people make up their own damn minds is even better

he's a twat

So is Trump.  If we can stand that cuntlick, we can stand a bicycle enthusiast.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed May 30, 2018 10:19 am

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I doubt a lot of women want to get cycling, you'd have to have showers and changing facilities at work and start out that much earlier to get there and shower and change, do your make up and hair before you start your job, you get very dirty cycling along in traffic even in a cycle lane although I understand all women don't fit this stereotype.

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Doesn't take any extra time  --  if they have a sweaty ride to work (not all do --  those who live close enough may just have a slow and easy ride..) they shower at work  --  that extra time at work is negated by less time wasting at home of a morning...

Any extra time on the commute (which may not be that much, anyway, as bicycling around cities is often faster than cars and motorbikes, and still cheaper than public transport..),  means that much less of one's personal  time spent in exercise in gyms or out jogging..

More relevant and realistic disincentives will include hilly terrain,  distances for those living out on the fringes,  and a maybe some irrational fears of moving traffic and exhaust fumes.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Wed May 30, 2018 11:13 am

Didge wrote:Too few women and people from ethnic minority groups cycle in London and more must be done to promote diversity among a largely white, male and middle class biking community, the city’s walking and cycling commissioner has said. Grand schemes, such as the Cycle Superhighway network of partially-segregated routes linking the suburbs with the centre, are too often perceived as simply a way of getting “middle-aged men cycling faster around the city”, Will Norman acknowledged.

He said he was considering setting diversity targets for London’s cycling population to ensure progress was achieved.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cycling-london-uk-sadiq-khan-bikes-race-class-gender-a8367916.html



the man who made this report is being paid a huge salary by the people of London. I suggest they demand a refund.


anyway the diversity gap is more than made up for by the moped gangs.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Wed May 30, 2018 11:15 am

Vintage wrote:I doubt a lot of women want to get cycling, you'd have to have showers and changing facilities at work and start out that much earlier to get there and shower and change, do your make up and hair before you start your job, you get very dirty cycling along in traffic even in a cycle lane although I understand all women don't fit this stereotype.
cycling to work is easy if you work close by.
could it be the black people at fault here? racist not wanting to cycle. ( for those who dont get sarcasm, SARCASM)

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Wed May 30, 2018 11:16 am

Original Quill wrote:
Vintage wrote:How do you set diversity targets for cycling? You can't force people .

And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good.  He's just a commissioner, making public his views.
He is being paid a huge salary by the people of london for this gibberish.
Khan has banned beach body adverts for health foods, whilst at the same time banning junk food ads. HE spends more time on things that don't need his attention whilst allowing london to turn into the wild west


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Post by Didge on Wed May 30, 2018 11:18 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
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And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good.  He's just a commissioner, making public his views.
He is being paid a huge salaray by the people of lodon for this gibberish.
Khan has banned beach body adverts for health foods, whilst at the same time banning junk food ads. HE spends more time on things that dont need his attention whilst allowing london to turn into the wild west


Banning junk food adds, is not stupid, when there is an obesity problem in this country

What you should be saying, is that he also spends plenty of time tackling this crime problem

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Didge wrote:
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He is being paid a huge salaray by the people of lodon for this gibberish.
Khan has banned beach body adverts for health foods, whilst at the same time banning junk food ads. HE spends more time on things that dont need his attention whilst allowing london to turn into the wild west


Banning junk food adds, is not stupid, when there is an obesity problem in this country

What you should be saying, is that he also spends plenty of time tackling this crime problem
but banning health food ads is.

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Post by Didge on Wed May 30, 2018 11:22 am

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Banning junk food adds, is not stupid, when there is an obesity problem in this country

What you should be saying, is that he also spends plenty of time tackling this crime problem
but banning health food ads is.


Again Cathy Newman

Did I claim that was good or bad?

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Post by Jules on Wed May 30, 2018 11:59 am

Didge wrote:Too few women and people from ethnic minority groups cycle in London and more must be done to promote diversity among a largely white, male and middle class biking community, the city’s walking and cycling commissioner has said. Grand schemes, such as the Cycle Superhighway network of partially-segregated routes linking the suburbs with the centre, are too often perceived as simply a way of getting “middle-aged men cycling faster around the city”, Will Norman acknowledged.

He said he was considering setting diversity targets for London’s cycling population to ensure progress was achieved.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cycling-london-uk-sadiq-khan-bikes-race-class-gender-a8367916.html




Once again it's a poor choice of words. He can encourage other groups of people to start use bikes without saying that those who already do are too ''male, white & middle class". Find a less offensive way to put your message across!

The same poor language was used when they tried to encourage diversity in rambling as a form of exercise, few years ago.

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Post by Jules on Wed May 30, 2018 12:03 pm

Worth remembering that the more people take up these pursuits, ... the more healthy the nation will get.

Should send NHS expenditure plummetting and that can only be a good thing.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed May 30, 2018 5:11 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

And remember, he doesn't speak with the authority of law.  It's just a goal.  Diversity is good.  He's just a commissioner, making public his views.
He is being paid a huge salary by the people of london for this gibberish.
Khan has banned beach body adverts for health foods, whilst at the same time banning junk food ads. HE spends more time on things that don't need his attention whilst allowing london to turn into the wild west

He's a winner.  All winners have the prerogatives of office. Look at Trump, banning Muslims. With the office comes the power.

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