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Post by magica on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:06 am

Alfie died at 2.30 this morning.

His parents are understandably heartbroken. His dad said he has laid down his shield and grown his wings.

At least they did all they could, I really feel for them.

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Post by Vintage on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:17 am

At least he's at peace now. I hope his parents are allowed to grieve in private now.

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Post by gelico on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:24 pm



RIP little fighter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43933056

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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:47 pm

Vintage wrote:At least he's at peace now. I hope his parents are allowed to grieve in private now.

Completely agree

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Post by Syl on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:50 pm

RIP little Alfie, he is at peace now.
Hopefully his parents can accept his passing and find their own peace at last.

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:40 pm

Just a few observations on this
Firstly my heart goes out to the pook kids parents....

however the "rentamob" out side the hospital should have been faced down with a baton charge and a few heads cracked for the intinidation and abuse of staff and other visitors there

also I read that balloons are and are going to be released all over the country....

will any one of those inconsiderate idiots be suitably punished for "littering", the deflated balloons are a severe hazzard to both farm animals and wild life....

finally do any of those idiot christian fundamentalist catholics that got involved as part of the rentamob, and in giving exploititaive and bad advice to the parents EVER think that had we had the hospital ruled by "religious" mores......the kid would NOT have had the treatment he DID get, it would all have been left to "the will of god"

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Post by Vintage on Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:47 pm

Makes you wonder about the intelligence rating of so many people doesn't it. Don't think about it and the consequences or if you are actually doing any good, if its a cause jump on the bandwagon, especially an anti establishment one.

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Post by Lord Foul on Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:01 pm

you only have to read their posts on social media...I mean we can all make typos and the odd bit of poor grammar, but most of them are just pig shit thick

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Post by nicko on Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:39 pm

Green from me Vic, a sheep on my local farm died from eating a Balloon !
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Post by eddie on Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:26 pm

This is an open post, made on Facebook, by a doctor called Matt Mayer:

So far I've been quiet over the tragic case of Alfie Evans, but as a doctor, a father of four and a former intensive care doctor I feel I have a duty to speak.

Firstly, no child is the property of their parents. As parents our own anguish, emotion and needs are entirely and utterly secondary to the best interests of our children. We do not own them. We can't make demands on what happens to them like a piece of furniture. Furthermore, as parents we are naturally conflicted in deciding what is best for them in times of dire crisis. Because of the unconditional love we have for our children we will naturally cling to hope even where there is none. Despite being a doctor I find it impossible to objectively medically assess my own children, because I'm their Daddy, not their doctor.

Secondly, doctors and nurses act in the best interests of their patients - not the parents, not the press, not some feral "army," not politicians, not the Pope, the PATIENT. The first line of the modern Hippocratic Oath is "Make the care of your patient your first concern." The staff at Alder Hey were working under incredibly difficult conditions even before a mob started accusing them of murder. Now their job is impossible.

Thirdly, Alfie Evans has an irreversible, catastrophic degenerative neurological disorder with no hope of recovery. The brain does not regenerate. Respiratory function and other basic physiological reflexes are literally, neurologically nothing whatsoever to do with sentience, consciousness or self awareness. Death, surrounded by those who love Alfie, peacefully, quietly, in dignity is in his best interests, this has been affirmed not just by his doctors but by the highest Court in the land. Having pictures of him in intensive care plastered all over the press, or being used as a political and religious football, or having people scream outside his hospital room is NOT in his best interests.

Finally, the behaviour of "Alfie's Army" is, to be frank, disgusting. Threatening doctors and nurses by name such that they fear for their lives is disgusting. Threatening to storm a children's hospital is disgusting. Threatening to pull fire alarms when other children are on the operating table having life saving surgery is worse than disgusting. Piggy-backing onto the grief of the parents of a baby you have never even met is flagrant grief tourism and an ultimate act of selfishness. Furthermore, veiling such aggressive and malignant behaviour behind a pretense of faith could not be further from what it means to be a Christian.

If you believe there is a conspiracy among the medical profession, or a cover up, or you believe parents own their children, or that the parents' feelings are more important than the dignity of their child, or if you are a member of Alfie's army then please do me a favour and remove yourself from my friends list.

God Bless you, Alfie.



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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:52 pm

Sometimes, your love has to be big enough to let go and embrace death rather than fighting it. And it takes massive strength to do this. Doesn't matter if it's an elderly parent, or a child or a beloved pet. Putting your own fears and grief to one side to do the right thing.
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