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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:08 pm

                       

Meanwhile, "down Mexico way" (i.e. south of the border..),  a little gang of Victorian police officers are being investigated after bashing an invalid (i.e. disabled..) pensioner...

https://www.mamamia.com.au/victoria-police-brutality-video-the-project/

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/04/victoria-police-who-beat-melbourne-pensioner-should-be-taken-off-their-job

http://www.news.com.au/video/id-5348771529001-5763747073001/Public-outcry-over-Victorian-Police-brutality

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/six-victoria-police-members-accused-of-brutality-could-face-suspension-20180403-p4z7h2.html

Looks like those jackbooted fascists thugs down there forgot where they were, and decided to act as if they were in Florida, London, Kuwait or Sacramento..

Meanwhile, true to form, the police association and bureaucrats have dove in to defend a few bad cops,  while a couple of their pet r/w apologist journo's have started in blaming their victims for deserving their grossly disproportionate bashings.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:47 pm

After seeing the video I can't see how they can keep their jobs. all of them, since none of them reported it.

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Post by eddie on Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:55 pm

veya_victaous wrote:After seeing the video I can't see how they can keep their jobs. all of them, since none of them reported it.


Yeah.....racist!

Let’s just shout that as loud as we can whether it’s relevant, or not.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:30 pm

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:After seeing the video I can't see how they can keep their jobs. all of them, since none of them reported it.


Yeah.....racist!  

Let’s just shout that as loud as we can whether it’s relevant, or not.  



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Post by eddie on Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:12 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:After seeing the video I can't see how they can keep their jobs. all of them, since none of them reported it.


Yeah.....racist!  

Let’s just shout that as loud as we can whether it’s relevant, or not.  



That’s an Irish emoticon. I’m not Irish.
You’re racist.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:56 pm

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:After seeing the video I can't see how they can keep their jobs. all of them, since none of them reported it.


Yeah.....racist!  

Let’s just shout that as loud as we can whether it’s relevant, or not.  



That’s an Irish emoticon. I’m not Irish.
You’re racist.


It's Discrimination against the Disabled Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

or maybe discrimination against the drunk in your case drunken drunken drunken tongue tongue tongue

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:01 am

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:

That’s an Irish emoticon. I’m not Irish.
You’re racist.


It's Discrimination against the Disabled Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

or maybe discrimination against the drunk in your case drunken drunken drunken tongue tongue tongue


Seriously, do you really class that as a beating?

I do not approve of how one Police officer acted, but how are they all to blame?

A beating by the cops is something like this

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/18/dashcam-video-shows-ohio-violent-arrest-nr.cnn

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:56 am

we're not the USA.
we except our officers to be civilized.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:35 am

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


That’s an Irish emoticon. I’m not Irish.
You’re racist.

What a Face

You don't have to be Irish to be Irish; or drunk...

Also, since when has "Irish" been a race ? I thought it was a nationality..

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:02 am

veya_victaous wrote:we're not the USA.
we except our officers to be civilized.

I am sure you do expect them just like everyone does in every country

My point is, how on earth do you class that as a beating?

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:14 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:we're not the USA.
we except our officers to be civilized.

I am sure you do expect them just like everyone does in every country

My point is, how on earth do you class that as a beating?

If you don't class that as a beating, then You just showed that YOU don't expect them to be civilized.

What would you call it?

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:17 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:

I am sure you do expect them just like everyone does in every country

My point is, how on earth do you class that as a beating?

If you don't class that as a beating, then You just showed that YOU don't expect them to be civilized.

What would you call it?

I class it as assualt, but I would not class it as a beating

Would you call a slap on the bum a beating?

I did not show anything at all as to what is civilized, which again is no more than a man made concetion.

Do I think what one or two cops did was wrong?

Yes

Do I class this as a beating?

No

Do I class it as humiliating for the victim?

Yes

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:31 am

you think 6 guys tackling, punching and using battens on an unarmed disabled man is not a beating ?

YES you did tell me heaps about what YOU consider the bar for Civility.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:36 am

veya_victaous wrote:you think 6 guys tackling, punching and using battens on an unarmed disabled man is not a beating ?

YES you did tell me heaps about what YOU consider the bar for Civility.

Punching?

Really?

I saw one person use a small stick on the leg

What has his disability got to do with anything here?

Are you making some inequality argument here?

What we have not seen, is the whole picture here. We saw part of the arrest and not what happened before for then force to be used to detain the person

I certainly think what some of the cops did was wrong, but we only see part of the whole event.

This would apply to anyone, no matter if male, female, young, old, able or disabled. Where what we are talking about here, is whether it was reasonable force, which i do not think it was.

So again, my point is, how can you class that as a beating, as what injuries did he have, other than Psychological injuries?

Anyway, have to go, so hope you clam down when I am next back online

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 am

they were called out to check the 'welfare of a disabled man'
SO his disability has EVERYTHING to do with it. because it was the reason they attended his home.


And If you what to play it down or think hey that's fine, good for you But Aussies are saying it's not acceptable and is being reported as a 'bashing/beating' because by Australian Cultural norms that is what it is.
I'll accept your cultural norms are different (less civilized)

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:55 am

veya_victaous wrote:they were called out to check the 'welfare of a disabled man'
SO his disability has EVERYTHING to do with it. because it was the reason they attended his home.


And If you what to play it down or think hey that's fine, good for you But Aussies are saying it's not acceptable and is being reported as a 'bashing/beating' because by Australian Cultural norms that is what it is.
I'll accept your cultural norms are different (less civilized)


1) Well clearly something happened, of which we have not seen that led to what then happened with the Police to use excessive force to restrain him.

2) His disability is not why Polcie attend a home. So that is bullshit

3) Have I at any point claimed it was acceptable?

No

You see you again invent things I have not said. What I have asked and what you have avoided in answering. Is based on whether this should be considered a beating. In my view, that is not what a beating is.

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Post by eddie on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:49 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


That’s an Irish emoticon. I’m not Irish.
You’re racist.

What a Face

You don't have to be Irish to be Irish;   or drunk...

Also, since when has "Irish" been a race ?    I thought it was a nationality..


Since when does anything anyone says have to make sense or actually be racist, to be labelled as such.

That’s kinda my whole point. Rolling Eyes

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