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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:00 am



SHE’S the fearless high school student who has become the face of gun violence prevention after the horrific Florida school massacre.

Now, the impact of Emma Gonzalez and her powerful message has gone global — the 18-year-old has gained more Twitter followers than the National Rifle Association.

Former student Nikolas Cruz, 19, has been charged with 17 counts of murder after the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine’s Day,

The 19-year-old had at least seven legally acquired long guns — including an AK-47-style rifle he bought less than a month ago.

Gonzalez made a global impact for her powerful 11-minute speech at an anti-gun rally in Fort Lauderdale for standing up to NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch at a town hall meeting hosted by CNN.

This weekend, Twitter users noticed that Gonzalez had more Twitter followers than both the NRA and NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch’s official accounts.



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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:06 am

well if twitter followers are enough to make the Kardashians famous then Emma is well on her way to Proving Public Sentiment supports Gun Control.

Also Interesting because Social media is one of the best measures of Youth Opinion, Trump Want a Legacy, Legacies are written by the current youth when they grow old and after the Current old are gone. If Trump Cares About his legacy He should be Dumping NRA ties fast and hard, he doesn't need their money and as the Op shows he'd be literally swapping one group of voters for a bigger group of voters that will be around for longer too.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:12 am

She's a bright girl. However, she's going to need to start dating singers or basketball players to catch the Kardashians. Wink

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:14 am

veya_victaous wrote:well if twitter followers are enough to make the Kardashians famous then Emma is well on her way to Proving Public Sentiment supports Gun Control.

Also Interesting because Social media is one of the best measures of Youth Opinion, Trump Want a Legacy, Legacies are written by the current youth when they grow old and after the Current old are gone. If Trump Cares About his legacy He should be Dumping NRA ties fast and hard, he doesn't need their money and as the Op shows he'd be literally swapping one group of voters for a bigger group of voters that will be around for longer too.

Are you saying young people with a liberal bent would start supporting Trump, if he dumped the NRA?

Do you think I would support Hillary if she started supporting GOA?


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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:23 am

what makes you think these Victims have a liberal bent? is not wanting to be Shot something only those Bastard Liberals want? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

DO I think the youth yet to be rusted onto a Political Party will vote for someone that Listens to them over an bad-old-way organisation like the NRA .. Yeah I do
Hell, even I'd say Trump was a better president than Obama, the Best US president in My Life time by A country mile IF he fixed the US Gun Culture which can't be done without direct confrontation with the NRA.

Commentators down here have been saying Trump is Actually one of the few Presidents that Might Fix it, with good reasons.....
Trump is Not Beholden to anyone's donations he has the money to finance himself.
Trump is a Populist, with loyalty only to Trump, Party lines mean nothing to him.
Trump has proven he has no problem 'going to War' with political 'adversaries' from the Left or Right of Traditional Politics.
Trump wants a Legacy, he wants to 'win' he wants to be remembered as the 'best'.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:28 am

veya_victaous wrote:what makes you think these Victims have a liberal bent? is not wanting to be Shot something only those Bastard Liberals want?  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

DO I think the youth yet to be rusted onto a Political Party will vote for someone that Listens to them over an bad-old-way organisation like the NRA .. Yeah I do
Hell, even I'd say Trump was a better president than Obama, the Best US president in My Life time by A country mile IF he fixed the US Gun Culture which can't be done without direct confrontation with the NRA.

Commentators down here have been saying Trump is Actually one of the few Presidents that Might Fix it, with good reasons.....
Trump is Not Beholden to anyone's donations he has the money to finance himself.
Trump is a Populist, with loyalty only to Trump, Party lines mean nothing to him.
Trump has proven he has no problem 'going to War' with political 'adversaries' from the Left or Right of Traditional Politics.
Trump wants a Legacy, he wants to 'win' he wants to be remembered as the 'best'.

No one wants to be shot. Not even NRA members, who also have children.

These particular kids have a liberal bent. There's millions more that don't. They probably won't be on the news though.


Besides, Trump can't make laws. He's going to get bump stocks banned and maybe raise the purchase age to 21 for rifles, but even that will be tough with this congress.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:30 am

What exactly do you think Trump will try to do. Ban semi autos?

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:43 am

I think he can start the process By Banning Bump stocks etc

If He makes it his legacy, than it means 'restricting' Semi Autos to people with legitimate reason (a.k.a Farmers, professional hunters/pest control)
but also Addressing the Culture, tackling the fallacy of 'protection' and other NRA lies, even if he just manages to remove the partisan posturing and allows a sensible debate and outcome it is positive.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:45 am

And I haven't heard them say anything Liberal
Just pro gun control which is hardly Liberal (only in the USA is the debate so Partisan around Guns)

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:15 am

veya_victaous wrote:I think he can start the process By Banning Bump stocks etc

If He makes it his legacy, than it means 'restricting' Semi Autos to people with legitimate reason (a.k.a Farmers, professional hunters/pest control)
but also Addressing the Culture, tackling the fallacy of 'protection' and other NRA lies, even if he just manages to remove the partisan posturing and allows a sensible debate and outcome it is positive.

What do you think the 2nd amendment guarantees? The right to hunt?

Maybe it's because you're Australian that you don't get it. Our constitution grants us rights. You can't just declare the rights null and void. You have to change the constitution.

BTW, I hunt and never use a semi auto. They are really just good for mowing down pigs.

Deer are too fast and agile to get more than one shot.

Bird hunters use semi autos, although they are really not called semi autos.

And of course there are probably 100 million semi auto handguns out there that have no hunting purpose.

And why do you really care. Do you think I give a shit if you have guns or not?


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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:34 am

Maddog wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:I think he can start the process By Banning Bump stocks etc

If He makes it his legacy, than it means 'restricting' Semi Autos to people with legitimate reason (a.k.a Farmers, professional hunters/pest control)
but also Addressing the Culture, tackling the fallacy of 'protection' and other NRA lies, even if he just manages to remove the partisan posturing and allows a sensible debate and outcome it is positive.

What do you think the 2nd amendment guarantees? The right to hunt?

Maybe it's because you're Australian that you don't get it. Our constitution grants us rights. You can't just declare the rights null and void. You have to change the constitution.

BTW, I hunt and never use a semi auto. They are really just good for mowing down pigs.

Deer are too fast and agile to get more than one shot.

Bird hunters use semi autos, although they are really not called semi autos.

And of course there are probably 100 million semi auto handguns out there that have no hunting purpose.

And why do you really care. Do you think I give a shit if you have guns or not?


the right to join an Organised and Regulated Militia
What do you think it is for?

I don't care if you give a shit or not, cause that's not even the argument
I care that Kids get to grow up safe, SO I don't give a fuck if you own a gun or not either....
Your gun ownership is Totally Irrelevant in the face of death and suffering caused by US Gun Culture.
Concerns for Your ability to own a Gun should be of ZERO consideration to Policy makers in a Civil society

Change the Constitution then. it's not like it hasn't been changed before including for the gun rights in the first place. which you copied off the UK at the time(1791) as they were relevant at the Time, now you need to copy the UK again to make it relevant to modern times Wink
The US Constitution has been changed 27 times through amendments. That is the purpose of the amendments. And of course its meaning can be changed by the courts who have decided it is a "living document".

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:36 am

@maddog
Why do you care if you were limited to Guns suitable for the legal purposes you propose to use them for?


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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:40 am

veya_victaous wrote:@maddog
Why do you care if you were limited to Guns suitable for the legal purposes you propose to use them for?


Because I want to keep my options open. What if we get invaded by Australia? Wink

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Post by Maddog on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:43 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

What do you think the 2nd amendment guarantees? The right to hunt?

Maybe it's because you're Australian that you don't get it. Our constitution grants us rights. You can't just declare the rights null and void. You have to change the constitution.

BTW, I hunt and never use a semi auto. They are really just good for mowing down pigs.

Deer are too fast and agile to get more than one shot.

Bird hunters use semi autos, although they are really not called semi autos.

And of course there are probably 100 million semi auto handguns out there that have no hunting purpose.

And why do you really care. Do you think I give a shit if you have guns or not?


the right to join an Organised and Regulated Militia
What do you think it is for?

I don't care if you give a shit or not, cause that's not even the argument
I care that Kids get to grow up safe, SO I don't give a fuck if you own a gun or not either....
Your gun ownership is Totally Irrelevant in the face of death and suffering caused by US Gun Culture.
Concerns for Your ability to own a Gun should be of ZERO consideration to Policy makers in a Civil society

Change the Constitution then. it's not like it hasn't been changed before including for the gun rights in the first place. which you copied off the UK at the time(1791) as they were relevant at the Time, now you need to copy the UK again to make it relevant to modern times  Wink
The US Constitution has been changed 27 times through amendments. That is the purpose of the amendments. And of course its meaning can be changed by the courts who have decided it is a "living document".

I know it's been changed.

But until it is, it has to be followed. That's why we have laws. We already have a huge problem with government ignoring laws.

But really, you should worry about Australia. Like I said before, you're creepy.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:54 am

we did worry about Australia and we solved it so not much interesting going on down here, too many sensible adults.
the Biggest Problems in Australia at the moment come from the USA, Your sudden switch from Free trade to Protectionism, the war mongering in Asia, trying to start a trade war with China etc. And then there's the bi-weekly News Stories about the US School kids being shot up AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes maybe I want you to Fix it because I'm Sick of having to see your kids dead on the news every other week.

And you're Dumb, if you Don't understands that America Affect the WHOLE world and Particularly the Western World you have to be SO Stupid it really should be criminal to allow you to Vote.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:27 am

Maddog wrote:
She's a bright girl. However, she's going to need to start dating singers or basketball players to catch the Kardashians.  Wink  

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What would be even better would be for the Kardashians & Jennas to get behind the teens for gun control, and endorse their activision, sentiments and ideals...

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:36 am

Maddog wrote:

What exactly do you think Trump will try to do. Ban semi autos?  

Cool

They can start by requiring shooters licences...

Then require police checks and mental health restriction over gaining those licences..

Then they can place restrictions over semi-automatic weapons --  exactly why should unlicensed shooters have unfettered access to AR16/AK-47 style guns in the majority of US states, and handguns in many of those states  ?

And ban all accessories where the only reason for their existence is to make a weapon effectively work like a fully-automatic weapon..

How does any of that clash with the 2nd Amendment, anyways  ???

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Maddog wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:I think he can start the process By Banning Bump stocks etc

If He makes it his legacy, than it means 'restricting' Semi Autos to people with legitimate reason (a.k.a Farmers, professional hunters/pest control)
but also Addressing the Culture, tackling the fallacy of 'protection' and other NRA lies, even if he just manages to remove the partisan posturing and allows a sensible debate and outcome it is positive.

What do you think the 2nd amendment guarantees? The right to hunt?

Maybe it's because you're Australian that you don't get it. Our constitution grants us rights. You can't just declare the rights null and void. You have to change the constitution.

BTW, I hunt and never use a semi auto. They are really just good for mowing down pigs.

Deer are too fast and agile to get more than one shot.

Bird hunters use semi autos, although they are really not called semi autos.

And of course there are probably 100 million semi auto handguns out there that have no hunting purpose.

And why do you really care. Do you think I give a shit if you have guns or not?

Rolling Eyes

Most of your so called "bird hunters" over there aren't genuine "sportsmen", though...

Most of them over there are psychopathic numbnuts who just want to blow away anything that moves;  and even then most of them are too bone lazy to get out and practice in the off season  --  hence their desire to use pump-action shotties that hold 7--8 cartidges, whereas many of their counterparts in other parts of the world get by with double-barrel shotguns.

Even more skilled are those who actually take the time to learn to use a .22 or even a .166 to take a bird on the wing..   Or how about a bowhunter with a "blunt" tipped arrow...

Even worse than your pretend bird "hunters" are those gormless fools who take part in their idiotic "turkey shoots", big brave girly-men blowing away fattened up turkeys in fenced off pens from 15 to 20 feet away..

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:09 am

veya_victaous wrote:
And I haven't heard them say anything Liberal
Just pro gun control which is hardly Liberal (only in the USA is the debate so Partisan around Guns)

Cool

Only in America,  do we see the gun lobby labelling their opponents as "liberal, lefty, socialist, communist"...

In Australia, Britain, Japan, and many other countries, those existing gun laws we have now were often suggested by the conservative leaning centre-right parties, and then usually supported by other major parties in bipartisan agreement..

Only in America, do we see industry-backed lobbyists in the NRA selling a gullible significant sector of the populace the story that the idea of tightened gun controls is really a Marxist conspiracy to instill a one-world guvm'nt where no-one will be allowed to own any weapons.

(They have tried peddling the same guff in places like Oz, NZ, UK, and parts of western Europe in recent years --  but haven't been able to find anywhere near the same gullible and self-delusional audience that they have over there in the USA..).

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