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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:24 pm

Three Israeli fans of Lorde filed a lawsuit Wednesday against two activists who had urged the New Zealand singer to boycott the Jewish state and cancel a planned performance there.

The plaintiffs, teenage girls who had bought tickets for Lorde's June concert, are demanding 45,000 shekels ($13,176, 10,626 euros) from the two New Zealand activists who had pressured Lorde.

Lorde had in December announced her intention to perform in Israel, but after criticism from international and New Zealand activists, announced she was cancelling the show, saying she "didn't make the right call" in her initial willingness to sing in Tel Aviv.

The suit was filed by Shurat Hadin, an NGO "using court systems around the world to go on the legal offensive against Israel's enemies," based on legislation from 2011 against calls to boycott Israel.

"We hope that the court will implement the law and rule damages to the plaintiffs, so boycott activists will know there's a price to any article or incitement against Israeli citizens," Shurat Hadin director Nitsana Darshan-Leitner said in a statement.

The movement behind the pressure on Lorde is known as BDS -- Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions -- and says it is inspired by the campaign that targeted South Africa's apartheid regime and is seeking an end to Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

In July, BDS activists failed to get Radiohead to call off its show in Tel Aviv despite heavy pressure from artists such as Pink Floyd's Roger Waters and director Ken Loach.

Israel sees BDS as a strategic threat and accuses it of anti-Semitism -- a claim activists firmly deny, calling it an attempt to discredit them.

A few politically active musicians have called off shows in Israel over the past years, including Lauryn Hill and Elvis Costello.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/israeli-fans-sue-activists-over-lorde-show-cancellation/ar-BBIwSuO?li=AAgfIYZ&ocid=ientp

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:27 pm

they really seem to have gone mad with the radical Zionism coming out of Israel at the moment.

I can't even see the Case they are trying to make, Are these Zionist now saying you can't have discussions and convince people to do the right thing?

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Post by Didge on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:35 pm

veya_victaous wrote:they really seem to have gone mad with the radical Zionism coming out of Israel at the moment.

I can't even see the Case they are trying to make, Are these Zionist now saying you can't have discussions and convince people to do the right thing?


The inherant goal of the BDS, is the destruction of Israel

Here a lesson for you on the BDS


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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:58 pm

exactly, Like I Said Cool Cool Cool

Are these Zionist now saying you can't have discussions and convince people to do the right thing?


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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:11 am

veya_victaous wrote:exactly, Like I Said  Cool  Cool  Cool

Are these Zionist now saying you can't have discussions and convince people to do the right thing?



So you back the destruction of Israel, as the right thing to do?

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:30 am

of Zionist Israel Wink

I can't see why they should not be boycotted or how you can Sue for being boycotted. seem like totally Whiny thing to do that only an entity in the Wrong would even try.

Freedom of Choice for the consumer is more important that the Radica discriminatory theology of the Zionists.

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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:35 am

veya_victaous wrote:of Zionist Israel Wink

I can't see why they should not be boycotted or how you can Sue for being boycotted. seem like totally Whiny thing to do that only an entity in the Wrong would even try.

Freedom of Choice for the consumer is more important that the Radica discriminatory theology of the Zionists.


So you want Israel destroyed, as you clearly do not understand what Zionism means.

You want the Jewish state destroyed, the only one in the world.

Not any Arab or Muslim or Christian states, just the Jewish one.

Thank you for admitting your antisemitism. In this country you would be arrested for antisemitism, as you would in the US and the EU.

Do you call for boycotting other nations, that actually abuse human rights?

There is a very long list, so do you look to boycott them all?

Its up to you if you want to boycott.

Its also up to people to sue.

How can you back one, then argue against the other?

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:05 am

What?
Bullshit
I want all Abrahamist states destroyed
I am not a Hypocrite on the topic like You

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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:10 am

veya_victaous wrote:What?
Bullshit
I want all Abrahamist states destroyed
I am not a Hypocrite on the topic like You


Really, what are these other Abrahmic other states you want destroyed? So hateful to many states and peoples

Iran?
Saudi?
Every single Muslim and Christian majority state?
Including Australia?

Does not matter you called openly for the destruction of the only Jewish state.

That is denying them self determination

I suggest you look up the IHRA definition of antisemitism, adopted by many countries

Like I say, you exposed yourself as a nasty little antisemite tonight, which is no surprise given the rise in antisemitism in Australia

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/antisemitism-in-australia-in-2017-a-summary-of-incidents-and-discourse/

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:43 am

deserving rise in Anti Israel opinions  Wink
Largely thanks to their rabid Apologists like yourself and these Idiots suing because Lorde Looked at the circumstances and Said "I can't morally do this".

And of Course as a Secularist I pursue an Australia free of Religious inference in politics, So Yes that means I want to see the 'Christian majority Australia' Cease to exist, of course Unlike Israel we are Very Secular and no one would even Suggest the nonsense these Israeli based Zionist groups try and push on everyone else.  

Again I am not a hypocritical Zionist like yourself.  

funny that the increase in anti Israel Opinions coincided with greater knowledge of Israeli Actions, it's almost like people with consistent morals Don't approve of Israel's attempts at Religious apartheid.
And I am sure even more are appalled by their disgusting attempts to Fake being the victims of prejudice, instead of accepting being recipients of a judgement based on their actions.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:02 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:of Zionist Israel Wink

I can't see why they should not be boycotted or how you can Sue for being boycotted. seem like totally Whiny thing to do that only an entity in the Wrong would even try.

Freedom of Choice for the consumer is more important that the Radica discriminatory theology of the Zionists.


So you want Israel destroyed, as you clearly do not understand what Zionism means.

You want the Jewish state destroyed, the only one in the world.

Not any Arab or Muslim or Christian states, just the Jewish one.

Thank you for admitting your antisemitism. In this country you would be arrested for antisemitism, as you would in the US and the EU.

Do you call for boycotting other nations, that actually abuse human rights?

There is a very long list, so do you look to boycott them all?

Its up to you if you want to boycott.

Its also up to people to sue.

How can you back one, then argue against the other?

Razz

More total bullshit on Dodge's part...

Nobody on here would be arrested anywhere outside of Israel, and charged with Dodge's totally fictional crime of "Anti-Semitism", merely because ttey should state disapproval of the digraced Netanyahu Zionist regime over there..

Didge's loopy claims that anti--Zionist feelings equates to "anti-Semitism" is on a par with his earlier wrong-headed claims over socialism -- both are exposing some big gaps in Didge's education and comprehension.

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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:26 am

veya_victaous wrote:deserving rise in Anti Israel opinions  Wink
Largely thanks to their rabid Apologists like yourself and these Idiots suing because Lorde Looked at the circumstances and Said "I can't morally do this".

And of Course as a Secularist I pursue an Australia free of Religious inference in politics, So Yes that means I want to see the 'Christian majority Australia' Cease to exist, of course Unlike Israel we are Very Secular and no one would even Suggest the nonsense these Israeli based Zionist groups try and push on everyone else.  

Again I am not a hypocritical Zionist like yourself.  

funny that the increase in anti Israel Opinions coincided with greater knowledge of Israeli Actions, it's almost like people with consistent morals Don't approve of Israel's attempts at Religious apartheid.
And I am sure even more are appalled by their disgusting attempts to Fake being the victims of prejudice, instead of accepting being recipients of a judgement based on their actions.


Not the same thing as you admitting to  wanting Israel destroyed

You know you fucked up and npow invent bullshit to attempt to get out f your Jew hatred

Even worse you think its acceptable to hate Christians also

Israel is a secular country in its law. Sadly, you are sadly brainwashed by extremists.

Maybe you can show me these supposed aparthied laws Israel has on religion, when its one of the most religious tolerant countries in the world?

In your own time

But facts are factsm, you have been exposed as an antisemite.

You only then tried to move the goalposts once you realized I exposed you as an antisemite

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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:30 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Didge wrote:


So you want Israel destroyed, as you clearly do not understand what Zionism means.

You want the Jewish state destroyed, the only one in the world.

Not any Arab or Muslim or Christian states, just the Jewish one.

Thank you for admitting your antisemitism. In this country you would be arrested for antisemitism, as you would in the US and the EU.

Do you call for boycotting other nations, that actually abuse human rights?

There is a very long list, so do you look to boycott them all?

Its up to you if you want to boycott.

Its also up to people to sue.

How can you back one, then argue against the other?

Razz

More total bullshit on Dodge's part...

Nobody on here would be arrested anywhere outside of Israel, and charged with Dodge's totally fictional crime of "Anti-Semitism", merely because ttey should state disapproval of the digraced  Netanyahu Zionist regime over there..

Didge's loopy claims that anti--Zionist feelings equates to "anti-Semitism" is on a par with his earlier wrong-headed claims over socialism --   both are exposing some big gaps in Didge's education and comprehension.

Lookl dummy, I suggest you look up how and why in the west we use the definition of antisemitism defined by IHRA

Second, are you supporting the destruction of Israel as Veya has?

How I made him look a complete hypocritical idiot and that he wants to boycott only the Jewish state and not countless nations that are human rights abusers

His views want the Jewish state destroyed

You dont get much more antisemitic that that.

At least we are seeing the true hateful racist extent from the left now

I mean, why do you think many western countries ban boycotting by the BDS?

Because they are seen as a hateful antisemitic group and Veya supports that hate

That is how its easy for me to expose him, and how he has been brainwashed.

The worst part is he has no idea on Israeli law and just goes by what some of his idiot extremists friends claim. Who also hate Jews. It shows he cannot research anything himself


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Post by nicko on Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:18 am

Why do some people hate Jews so much ?
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Post by Angry Andy on Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:59 pm

Why do some people hate ALL Muslims?

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:12 pm

nicko wrote:
Why do some people hate Jews so much ?

Idea

Who here actually "hates Jews"  ???

A few people on here may rightfully detest the war criminal Netanyahu, and his Zionist backers..

However, despite Didge's ongoing irrational and bilious rants, that doesn't necessarily make the anti-Netanyahu/Zionist people "antiSemitic".

One only has to look at Didge's crazy ravings above, to know who the true "hater" on these threads is --  while those three or four braindead female Brits who keep on running their odious little floptard-inspired campaign on here, consistently and falsely labelling Andy, sassy, Quill, veya or me as "haters" across various threads can all go and fuck themselves..


A better question for you, nicko -- Why do so many of those other Brits on here (Tommy, Deano, Smelly, Horatio, Sly, magica, Nems, et al) so obviously hate their so-called "immigrants", especially black "immigrants" ??? And, why can't they use the alternative and more correct terms "refugees, asylum seekers, or illegal immigrants" -- as the case may be..


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Post by nicko on Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:16 pm

I didn't mean posters on here, I meant others in the general population.
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Post by Didge on Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:22 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
nicko wrote:
Why do some people hate Jews so much ?

Idea

Who here actually "hates Jews"  ???

A few people on here may rightfully detest the war criminal Netanyahu, and his Zionist backers..

However, despite Didge's ongoing irrational and bilious rants, that doesn't necessarily make the anti-Netanyahu/Zionist people "antiSemitic".

One only has to look at Didge's crazy ravings above, to know who the true "hater" on these threads is --  while those three or four braindead female Brits who keep on running their odious little floptard-inspired campaign on here, consistently and falsely labelling Andy, sassy, Quill, veya or me as "haters" across various threads can all go and fuck themselves..


Liar, liar, pants on fire

Veya was very clear he wished that Zionist Israel was destroyed.

Then when I brought it up it was antisemitic

He said he wanted all Abrahamic states destroyed

When I pointed out this was many countries in the world. He again backtracked and said he wished to see Christianity eradicated from Australia. Not the country destroyed

Now Israel was created on the fundemental concept of Zionism and the vast majority of Jews there are Zionists

The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum.
Its general definition means the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel. 
Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Zionism has come to include the movement for the development of the State of Israel and the protection of the Jewish nation in Israel through support for the Israel Defense Forces.
From inception, Zionism avocated tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions - left, right, religious and secular - formed the Zionist movement and worked together toward its goals.

To claim his views are not antisemitic, when what Zionism is? Is about the creation of a Jewish state in its ancestral lands to protect this. To say you are against Zionism. Is to be against the very existance of Israel itself. As Zionism has been achieved in created the Jewish state.

Hence the mask claiming to be anti-Zionist easily falls off to show that in fact those who are, generally are also very antisemetic

I did not see him call for any other state to be destroyed except the Jewish state.

That is denying the Jewish people the right of self determination.

I see again you have to attack other posters on here, proving what a vile low life scum you truely are and in worse try to defend Veyas blatant jew hatred here

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:22 pm

That's not Anti-Semitic that is Pro Secular.

I do not support any religions claim to any lands.
Again I am not a hypocrite in My position like you are

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:25 pm

nicko wrote:I didn't mean posters on here,   I meant others in the general population.

Same reason as Muslims
they are different, and some demand special treatment due to their religion.
which makes them an easy target for demagogues to rile up the hatred of the disenfranchised population

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Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:38 am

veya_victaous wrote:That's not Anti-Semitic that is Pro Secular.

I do not support any religions claim to any lands.
Again I am not a hypocrite in My position like you are

Israel is secular in law

So why are you not calling for the destruction of every Muslim majority country?

because you are a vile antisemite as easily exposed

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Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:39 am

veya_victaous wrote:
nicko wrote:I didn't mean posters on here,   I meant others in the general population.

Same reason as Muslims
they are different, and some demand special treatment due to their religion.
which makes them an easy target for demagogues to rile up the hatred of the disenfranchised population  


Even worse, you just ignore centuries of persecution the Jews have suffered and are still suffering.

All groups deserve protection from oppression, but you just elevated Muslims above the rest

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:00 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:That's not Anti-Semitic that is Pro Secular.

I do not support any religions claim to any lands.
Again I am not a hypocrite in My position like you are

Israel is secular in law

So why are you not calling for the destruction of every Muslim majority country?

because you are a vile antisemite as easily exposed

I am not calling for the destruction of any nation dumb ass
But I don't support Israel as having any more right to exist than Palestine (or any one else)

And I Don't support (or give shit) About any religion dominated country

And If Israel is Secular How can critics of it be Anti Semitic?

Answer that, Hypocrite
Cant have it both ways
it is either Secular and therefore has NOTHING to do with Judaism or any history relating to Jews
OR it is a Jewish State. CANT BE BOTH

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Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:07 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:

Israel is secular in law

So why are you not calling for the destruction of every Muslim majority country?

because you are a vile antisemite as easily exposed

I am not calling for the destruction of any nation dumb ass
But I don't support Israel as having any more right to exist than Palestine (or any one else)

And I Don't support (or give shit) About any religion dominated country

And If Israel is Secular How can critics of it be Anti Semitic?

Answer that, Hypocrite
Cant have it both ways
it is either Secular and therefore has NOTHING to do with Judaism or any history relating to Jews
OR it is a Jewish State. CANT BE BOTH


It is there in black and white that you did call for its destruction

Israel's right is based on historical rights. Being the fact the genesis of the Jews formed from these lands. Its language, culture, religion etc. The Arabs though, formed in the Arabian penisular. And in reality are the colonialists.
How do you think the whole Middle East and most of North Africa, come to  speak Arabic?
Through Arabization

You really are a thick fuck.
So the antisemitism against the Jews by the Nazi's was racially based.
Jews are targeted as an ethnic groups as either religiously or racially.
When are you going to learn you can be a Jew ethnically and also be an athiest?

What did you fail to grasp that many Jews in the formation of Israel was not only religious, but mainly secular.
So yes you can be very much antisemitic, you twat. As Jews are an ethnic group, not just religious

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:16 am

No one has rights based on the fact they have the same religion as people in the area 1700 years ago.

SO You support Tommy and say that Non brits have No right to be in Britain Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
again HYPOCIRTE

So it is not Anti Semitic To not support what is total bullshit And NOT A RIGHT for anyone on the planet, ask the Aborigines or Native Americans.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:22 am



Didge is proving himself to be biggest crusading pro-Zionist 'snowflake' around these days...

And, he's not even a Netanyahu-voting Israeli !

How many c&p'd Zionist blogs has the Dodger posted on here just in this past week.. 50, 60, 70 ???

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:29 am

veya_victaous wrote:No one has rights based on the fact they have the same religion as people in the area 1700 years ago.

SO  You support Tommy and say that Non brits have No right to be in Britain Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes  
again HYPOCIRTE

So it is not Anti Semitic To not support what is total bullshit And NOT A RIGHT for anyone on the planet, ask the Aborigines or Native Americans.


So now you are dictating who apeople are?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

Never made any claim like Tommy, what a poor misdirection.

Again you are denying Jews as an ethnic people

That is antisemitism, in a nutshell

I suggest you educate yourself on the matter, because its clear you fail to understand antisemitism, and the uniqueness of the hate that is recieved byh Jews

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/a-definition-of-antisemitism

You really have exposed what is wrong with those antisemetic today

Next time you spout any antisemitic crap, I will report such abuse

I fail to see why you should be allowed to get away with such hate

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:30 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Didge is proving himself to be biggest crusading pro-Zionist 'snowflake' around these days...

And, he's not even a Netanyahu-voting Israeli  !

How many c&p'd Zionist blogs has the Dodger posted on here just in this past week..    50,  60,  70  ???


Cant be as bad as you defending an antisemite in Veya, who denies Jews as an ethnic group

And you think its a laughing matter

What can I say? That some of the Left who are antisemitic, are the new modern Nazi's.

And you claim to stand against racism, discrimination etc?

That clearly has been exposed as a lie.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:38 am

First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:39 am

Raggamuffin wrote:First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.


She is a one hit wonder
Its up to people to sue, if they believe she was influence by lies and hate.
Anyone can sue.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:40 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.


She is a one hit wonder
Its up to people to sue, if they believe she was influence by lies and hate.
Anyone can sue.

It was up to her to do her own research and make her own judgement. Perhaps she did that.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:41 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


She is a one hit wonder
Its up to people to sue, if they believe she was influence by lies and hate.
Anyone can sue.

It was up to her to do her own research and make her own judgement. Perhaps she did that.


Maybe she was pressured not to go by the BDS.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:44 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It was up to her to do her own research and make her own judgement. Perhaps she did that.


Maybe she was pressured not to go by the BDS.

Pressured in what way?

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:47 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Maybe she was pressured not to go by the BDS.

Pressured in what way?


Through her repuatation.

How do you think the BDS class Israel already?

With unfounded comparrisons to Nazism and Aparthied.

What do you think they would do to her reputation, when they think like this?

Other artists have faced this

Anyway, its up to people if they sue and they believe they have a strong case.

Personally I think its not the way to fight the BDS.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:50 am

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Pressured in what way?


Through her repuatation.

How do you think the BDS class Israel already?

With unfounded comparrisons to Nazism and Aparthied.

What do you think they would do to her reputation, when they think like this?

Other artists have faced this

Anyway, its up to people if they sue and they believe they have a strong case.

Personally I think its not the way to fight the BDS.

Ah, reputation. I think that people need to decide for themselves if they're going to allow themselves to be pressurised by threats to their "reputation".

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:52 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:


Through her repuatation.

How do you think the BDS class Israel already?

With unfounded comparrisons to Nazism and Aparthied.

What do you think they would do to her reputation, when they think like this?

Other artists have faced this

Anyway, its up to people if they sue and they believe they have a strong case.

Personally I think its not the way to fight the BDS.

Ah, reputation. I think that people need to decide for themselves if they're going to allow themselves to be pressurised by threats to their "reputation".


I agree also, but again people take issue when hate and lies, is spread against an entire people

That being the people of Israel themselves on the recieveing end of such hate and lies.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:51 am

Raggamuffin wrote:First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.

She is a lot more talented than most of the pop stars
this is her big single but she has had a few hits.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:05 pm

She has a good voice - she reminds me of some other singer but I can't remember who.

Not really my sort of music, but nice.

Even if the plaintiffs win, I don't how any compension award could be enforced.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Jules on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:21 pm

Didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.


She is a one hit wonder
Its up to people to sue, if they believe she was influence by lies and hate.
Anyone can sue.

I don't know how many ''hits'' she's had but I know I totally LOVED several of her songs.  I'm sure her talent made her a millionairess even as a teenager!! Maybe she had a career break - like so many musicians do?

Haven't heard any news about her in recent years and I know absolutely nothing about her Israeli tour - or possible cancellation of it, or whatever.


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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Jules wrote:
Didge wrote:


She is a one hit wonder
Its up to people to sue, if they believe she was influence by lies and hate.
Anyone can sue.

I don't know how many ''hits'' she's had but I know I totally LOVED several of her songs.  I'm sure her talent made her a millionairess even as a teenager!! Maybe she had a career break - like so many musicians do?

I haven't heard any news about her in recent years and I know absolutely nothing about her Israeli tour - or possible cancellation of it, or whatever.


Which means she is a one hit wonder

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Jules on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:26 pm

Didge wrote:
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I don't know how many ''hits'' she's had but I know I totally LOVED several of her songs.  I'm sure her talent made her a millionairess even as a teenager!! Maybe she had a career break - like so many musicians do?

I haven't heard any news about her in recent years and I know absolutely nothing about her Israeli tour - or possible cancellation of it, or whatever.


Which means she is a one hit wonder

In her 20's?

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:28 pm

Jules wrote:
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Which means she is a one hit wonder

In her 20's?


Well, how many hits has she had other than this one?

Untill she has any other hits, she is a one hit wonder

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Jules on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:First of all, I've never heard of Lorde. Anyway, I don't see how the activists can be blamed. If this Lorde cancelled the concert, that was her decision and if she was influenced, that's her own fault. Her fans should perhaps find another singer they like instead of her.

Few years ago, when I joined FH (after micky left) I posted 3 of her songs in my introduction/newbie thread and raved about her for a bit. The songs were my gift to the forum, as a newbie. fiesta

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:19 pm



Apparently,  much of this kerfuffle started with one fascist, anti-free speech, bigotted New York-based twat, taking out a Zionist-inspired full page rant in the Washington Post, where said dumbfuck braindead rabbi accused NZ of being a "racist" anti-Israel country  !!!

Read more at source :
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/nz-singer-lorde-targeted-in-controversial-ad-in-the-washington-post/news-story/abe00a4133ba319c0a53af3bde266594

Go figure  !!!

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:23 pm

Interesting

So based on the BDS reasoning, she is okay with the Russian occupation of the Crimea, its appalling humans rights record and that its propping up Assad, a mass murderer.

Where was the BDS campaigning for her not to play in Russia?

Would anyone like a clue?

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:39 pm

Arrow

Further to the above story :

Last month the NZ Jewish Council distanced themselves from the crusading fascist NY rabbi, who in December was trying single-handedly to declare unilateral war against those evil Satan-worshipping Kiwis, by taking out a full page ad' claiming that Lorde was a bigot, and therefore NZ must be a disgusting and evil Israel- hating hotbed of Muslim-loving sheepshaggers..

The NZ Jewish community grand poobahs furthermore stated that while they were disappointed that sweet young thang Lorde had been influenced by those poor lost souls from that BDS mob, they didn't think that the rabid NY rabbi warmongerer was helping anybody, by attempting to spread his one-man Zionist crusade into attempting to boycott NZ as a whole..

Read more at source :

https://newsie.co.nz/news/74693-lorde-labelled-bigot-controversial-ad.html

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Jules on Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:55 pm

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I am not calling for the destruction of any nation dumb ass
But I don't support Israel as having any more right to exist than Palestine (or any one else)

And I Don't support (or give shit) About any religion dominated country

And If Israel is Secular How can critics of it be Anti Semitic?

Answer that, Hypocrite
Cant have it both ways
it is either Secular and therefore has NOTHING to do with Judaism or any history relating to Jews
OR it is a Jewish State. CANT BE BOTH


It is there in black and white that you did call for its destruction

Israel's right is based on historical rights. Being the fact the genesis of the Jews formed from these lands. Its language, culture, religion etc. The Arabs though, formed in the Arabian penisular. And in reality are the colonialists.
How do you think the whole Middle East and most of North Africa, come to  speak Arabic?
Through Arabization


You really are a thick fuck.

So the antisemitism against the Jews by the Nazi's was racially based.
Jews are targeted as an ethnic groups as either religiously or racially.
When are you going to learn you can be a Jew ethnically and also be an athiest?

What did you fail to grasp that many Jews in the formation of Israel was not only religious, but mainly secular.
So yes you can be very much antisemitic, you twat. As Jews are an ethnic group, not just religious

No he's not.
Not in my experience.
Because of their Australian backgrounds, he and Wolfie have enabled me to see many issues from a different viewpoint. I already do make a point of looking at things from a different angle  - and they have widened the angle further. They bring a different perspective to the table.

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by veya_victaous on Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:03 am

Jules wrote:
Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

I am not calling for the destruction of any nation dumb ass
But I don't support Israel as having any more right to exist than Palestine (or any one else)

And I Don't support (or give shit) About any religion dominated country

And If Israel is Secular How can critics of it be Anti Semitic?

Answer that, Hypocrite
Cant have it both ways
it is either Secular and therefore has NOTHING to do with Judaism or any history relating to Jews
OR it is a Jewish State. CANT BE BOTH


It is there in black and white that you did call for its destruction

Israel's right is based on historical rights. Being the fact the genesis of the Jews formed from these lands. Its language, culture, religion etc. The Arabs though, formed in the Arabian penisular. And in reality are the colonialists.
How do you think the whole Middle East and most of North Africa, come to  speak Arabic?
Through Arabization


You really are a thick fuck.

So the antisemitism against the Jews by the Nazi's was racially based.
Jews are targeted as an ethnic groups as either religiously or racially.
When are you going to learn you can be a Jew ethnically and also be an athiest?

What did you fail to grasp that many Jews in the formation of Israel was not only religious, but mainly secular.
So yes you can be very much antisemitic, you twat. As Jews are an ethnic group, not just religious

No he's not.
Not in my experience.
Because of their Australian backgrounds, he and Wolfie have enabled me to see many issues from a different viewpoint. I already do make a point of looking at things from a different angle  - and they have widened the angle further. They bring a different perspective to the table.


Like how anyone can even suggest that what Didge ranted about actually gives anyone a 'right' Wink
seems very offensive to Aboriginals and native Americans that 'whites' think this other white group has a 'right' they were never afforded even though it's on a far more flimsy claim then their own

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Re: Snowflakes of Israel

Post by Didge on Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:09 am

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It is there in black and white that you did call for its destruction

Israel's right is based on historical rights. Being the fact the genesis of the Jews formed from these lands. Its language, culture, religion etc. The Arabs though, formed in the Arabian penisular. And in reality are the colonialists.
How do you think the whole Middle East and most of North Africa, come to  speak Arabic?
Through Arabization


You really are a thick fuck.

So the antisemitism against the Jews by the Nazi's was racially based.
Jews are targeted as an ethnic groups as either religiously or racially.
When are you going to learn you can be a Jew ethnically and also be an athiest?

What did you fail to grasp that many Jews in the formation of Israel was not only religious, but mainly secular.
So yes you can be very much antisemitic, you twat. As Jews are an ethnic group, not just religious

No he's not.
Not in my experience.
Because of their Australian backgrounds, he and Wolfie have enabled me to see many issues from a different viewpoint. I already do make a point of looking at things from a different angle  - and they have widened the angle further. They bring a different perspective to the table.


Its irrelevant what you think of Veya
What is relevant is what he said
Not only did he deny Jews their ethnic identity but also called for the destruction of Israel.
He then poorly claimed he wished to see all Abrahamic states destroyed.
Backtracked on this, when I rightly stated, this would be many states and claimed he only wanted to eradicate Christianity within Australia

Maybe you can explain to me a defense for his hate for an entire nation in Israel, denying their right to exist?

He then dumbly claims off the indegenous in the US and Australia, both of which have been and are still denied self determination. Jews are indegenious to the lands of Israel.
Hence why his argument falls flat.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:59 am

No, I didn't back track
Destroy all Abrahamic states (through conversion to Technocratic Secularism) is my still my preference

And I don't hate Israel, I don't support the concept that any 'nation' has an innate right to exist. particularly not on the flimsy pretense that they lived in the area during the roman era.
Again I am consistent, do i not also say European nations should cease to exist and become the single nation of Europe. the world is dynamic, no one has a right to not be impacted by change.

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