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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:31 pm

Police chief Simon Bailey says even thousands more detectives would not be enough to bring every offender to justice



The police chief in charge of child protection says tens of thousands of British men have shown an interest in sexually abusing children.

Simon Bailey said investigators monitoring a single online chatroom in 2017 identified 4,000 men using it from the UK alone.

Bailey, the National Police Chiefs’ Council lead on child protection, estimated the number of men interested in sexually abusing children at more than 20,000. He said the figure was comparable to the number of current and former terrorism suspects.

He added that limited resources meant not all perpetrators could be tackled, with police forced to focus on the most dangerous offenders. “We are having to prioritise the threat,” he said. “Some lower-level offenders cannot be arrested and taken to court. There is just not the capacity.”

Bailey warned that a growing threat to children came from live streaming and said police wanted a fresh crackdown from tech companies on the use of platforms including Periscope, which is owned by Twitter, and Facebook Live.

His warning follows recent reports that abusive behaviour is on the rise. Earlier this month, the NSPCC child protection charity said there had been a 31% increase in the number of reported cases of child sexual abuse in the UK in the previous year.

Bailey said reports to child protection experts were up 700% since October 2013, although some put that increase down to a greater willingness to report offences.

In the first 11 months of 2017, the National Crime Agency received 72,000 referrals about online child sexual abuse imagery, up from 6,000 in 2010.

Bailey, who is the chief constable of Norfolk, said he was in no doubt that the dangers had grown, even if awareness had too. “I think there is more sexual abuse of children being perpetrated both physically and virtually,” he said. “There are more men than five to 10 years ago who are trying to abuse children.”

And he emphasised that online abuse was not without consequences. “If a child flashes their breasts to someone online it can still cause great damage [to that child].

“I believe there are tens of thousands of men that are now going into chatrooms and forums with a view to grooming children,” he added. “Technology has afforded an access to children that people who have a sexual interest in children never had before.”

Bailey said police did not have enough officers to successfully pursue all child sex abusers and even thousands more detectives would not bring every offender to justice, even though the law was sufficiently robust to allow for prosecutions in most cases. “There are hundreds of officers tackling this now,” he said. “Thousands and thousands still would not be enough.

“This is one of those wicked problems we simply cannot arrest our way out of.”

The police chief said the children being targeted were not just those from homes where the parents or the adults in charge were neglectful. “The victims have included children of very capable and very caring parents. It does not recognise social status. The victims include children of middle-class, educated parents who think they are internet-savvy,” he said.

About half of parents warned their children about the dangers of the internet, Bailey said, but it needed to be a frequent and repeated warning. “That is usually a one-off conversation – it needs to be constantly reinforced,” he said. “At Christmas parents buy children internet-enabled technology. They need to understand the risks.”

Schools have recently started telling children about what to do if they are caught up in a terrorist attack. Bailey said education on the dangers of child sexual abuse also needed to be taken into the classroom. “We need the same warnings about sexual abuse in schools, in the same way as we do for terrorism.

“Young people need to be educated about the risks, and spot the signs of exploitation and have the confidence to report it.”

Some 20% of new imagery is self-generated and is often taken by other children. But Bailey said he did not regard those who viewed sexual images of children under the age of 16 as harmless under any circumstances.

“There are more men viewing imagery and asking kids to flash,” he said. “Viewing an image is abusing a child.”

He added that most offenders across all categories of child sexual abuse were white, despite the considerable attention that has been paid in some parts of the media to so-called Asian street-grooming gangs.

On the emerging issue of live streaming, Bailey urged tech companies to do more. “Software providers have a critical role in policing the environment they create,” he said. “They have a social and moral responsibility to make their platforms safe for children to use.”

The Home Office said: “We are supporting a robust law enforcement response, developing new capabilities to identify and protect victims and working with the internet industry to remove illegal images and tackle grooming.

“This is a global problem that demands a coordinated global response. Internet companies have made progress but they must work harder to remove and stop online child sexual exploitation.”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/29/estimated-20000-british-men-interested-in-sexually-abusing-children-police-chief-says



The down side of the internet and reason for there to be a worldwide police strategic unit formed. I remember when they broke up a huge world wide ring that was run from Holland.

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Post by Cass on Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:43 am

Sadly modern technology has made it easier as you say not only for this but for sex trafficking, drug running etc...

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:54 am

Suspect

Only 20,000 ???

I would have thought it could be even higher..

And there's probably a few thousan women out there, ready and willing to help them.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:30 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Suspect

Only 20,000  ???

I would have thought it could be even higher..

And there's probably a few thousan women out there, ready and willing to help them.

Sexist dog!!!!!!

How dare you suggest women are peados

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Post by Syl on Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:12 pm

I like the idea that as well as parents and guardians drumming home this message, schools should start seriously tackling this problem and teaching children about the online dangers.
Every kid seems to now have access to at least one device where they have unlimited freedom online, so teach them from an early age how to protect themselves.

A generation ago it was 'stranger danger' we concentrated on....now that danger is in their own homes everytime they have unsupervised access to the internet.

Its sickening that so many men want to abuse youngsters, just by watching they are perpetrating child sexual abuse.

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Post by eddie on Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:31 pm

Stranger Danger always seemed stupid to me.

The best advice for a child is this:
"If mum doesn't know you don't go"

That can be extended to internet useage as they get older: "if you don't tell mum - question why"


Parents are too busy wrapping kids in cotton wool and pretending the world runs on fairy dust and wishes. Mum's don't cry in front of their kids for fear of upsetting them, they don't talk to them openly and they just lie about how happy they are when the kid can obviously see they're not, so kids grow up being used to being lied to and learn not to trust their own instincts.
Think about it.

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Post by Syl on Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:41 pm

eddie wrote:Stranger Danger always seemed stupid to me.

The best advice for a child is this:
"If mum doesn't know you don't go"

That can be extended to internet useage as they get older: "if you don't tell mum - question why"


Parents are too busy wrapping kids in cotton wool and pretending the world runs on fairy dust and wishes. Mum's don't cry in front of their kids for fear of upsetting them, they don't talk to them openly and they just lie about how happy they are when the kid can obviously see they're not, so kids grow up being used to being lied to and learn not to trust their own instincts.
Think about it.

I don't really agree Eddie.
I think many mums (and dads) are just so busy with their own lives now they let the kids do what the hell they like. In past days they plonked them in front of a TV to keep them quiet, now they buy them whatever electronic gadgets are the rage.....kids as young as 2 and 3 can use tablets etc....by the time they are pre teen they know a lot more than mam and dad do.

Stranger danger only worked if the kid actually knew what a stranger was.....but the idea was good, you don't go off with anyone you don't know.

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Post by eddie on Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:35 pm

Yes Syl, they do all of that and don't talk to them anymore - for all the reasons I've listed.

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Post by Syl on Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:58 pm

Not sure I agree about parents lying to their kids more than they used to, unless you count ignoring them and leaving them to their own devices to see the world through distorted eyes a form of lying.

For some reason I cant fathom many parents seem stressed all of the time now, odd when you consider how easy the average family have it now compared to past generations.


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Post by Jules on Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:53 pm

20,0000 ??  Shocked

WHOA!!!!!  Shocked Shocked

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Post by eddie on Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:17 am

Jules wrote:20,0000 ??  Shocked

WHOA!!!!!  Shocked Shocked

Yeah and I'm thinking it's probably even more than that....

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