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Post by eddie on Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:33 pm

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I've had a really strange and at times, really tough year. I'd like to say I'd be unselfish and ask for world peace and shit but really, I'm hoping to get through the day without feeling too sad about Lisa. It's a day all about my children really and that's what I really want for Christmas....that they have a day of fun.

So. What do you want?


I really wish you all a lovely holiday, however you celebrate it.
I mean that.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:12 pm

Let's see, he also lies, foments hatred toward non-whites, excuses neo-Nazis, cheats on his wife, engages in nepotism and has no respect for America's institutions.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:15 pm

He plays a game of nuclear brinkmanship with North Korea via Twitter, he praises authoritarian dictators like Putin and Duterte, and he refuses to protect America's electoral process against Russian interference, despite warnings from his own intelligence agencies, simply because he thinks it would be a tacit admission that Russia helped him win.

Oh, and he's so stupid that he tweets about how little TV he watches during a TV segment about how much TV he watches.
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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:26 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Hating a person just because they are different to you

The never trumps like Ben and Quill are no better than racists who hate blacks just because they are black

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

there are far more democrats and leftwing liberals up for sexual assault than there are RWers

and trump didn't sexually assault anyone

he grabbed some high priced party whore by the pussy at one of his millionaire gatherings

SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!

that's their job

racist comments?? that's relative to your perspective in life, you are not the final authority on what does and doesn't constitute racism.

you do not get to play judge jury and executioner and then validate your irrational and unthinking prejudice and hatred based on your own justification for said hatred and bigotry

your shit stinks just as bad as everyone elses so give us a break and drop the damsel in distress act, its not fooling anyone

you're a bigot, you dislike trump because he doesn't have the values you do

you're no different to the KKK who hate blacks because they have a different colour skin


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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:26 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:He plays a game of nuclear brinkmanship with North Korea via Twitter, he praises authoritarian dictators like Putin and Duterte, and he refuses to protect America's electoral process against Russian interference, despite warnings from his own intelligence agencies, simply because he thinks it would be a tacit admission that Russia helped him win.

Oh, and he's so stupid that he tweets about how little TV he watches during a TV segment about how much TV he watches.

yeah because north Korea was just about to negotiate and disarm right???


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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by eddie on Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:45 pm

What did you get for Christmas, smelly?

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:08 pm

eddie wrote:What did you get for Christmas, smelly?

One would hope deodorant and a bar of soap, but then, you never know what he might do with the soap. Wink

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:15 pm

Syl wrote:
sassy wrote:A quick Happy Yule to all.  I'm a very lucky lady, I got the most beautiful gift from my lovely partner.   I'm obsessed with wolves and their spirit and social behaviour, I think they are the most amazing creatures.  My fella found me this from a Pagan artist who I had never heard of before, Her name is Lisa Parker, she calls him The Guardian of the North, I call him Spirit.



Bright Blessings to the coming days, I think we are going to need them.


Sassy, that is the most beautiful present, I could look at it for ages, its mesmerising.

I am like Nicko now....family was here yesterday, and today boxing day I always make a big buffet for son, grandsons and various girlfriends, and lovely though that is, its knackering....how lovely is it when they all happily go on their way, and OH and me are left alone....bliss.
Wouldnt have it any  other way though.

I really hope you all, whatever you got up to, had a very happy time over the last couple of days. I love you


Thanks Syl. A really odd thing happened Boxing morning. Benny our dog came downstairs, took one look at the wolf and went apeshit, only time I have ever seen him snarl. Had to pick it up and show him it wasn't real! Your boxing day sound knackering, although like you, it's what I used to do. Brother and wife were coming but he slipped on the ice the week before Christmas and broke his femur, so the trip from Newcastle was a no no. Christmas morning we took the dog to Sandringham for his normal walking, forgetting all about the royals and the place was packed, people walking all over the road etc. They are totally nuts!

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Post by gelico on Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:42 pm

sassy wrote:
Syl wrote:

Sassy, that is the most beautiful present, I could look at it for ages, its mesmerising.

I am like Nicko now....family was here yesterday, and today boxing day I always make a big buffet for son, grandsons and various girlfriends, and lovely though that is, its knackering....how lovely is it when they all happily go on their way, and OH and me are left alone....bliss.
Wouldnt have it any  other way though.

I really hope you all, whatever you got up to, had a very happy time over the last couple of days. I love you


Thanks Syl.  A really odd thing happened Boxing morning.   Benny our dog came downstairs, took one look at the wolf and went apeshit, only time I have ever seen him snarl.   Had to pick it up and show him it wasn't real!  Your boxing day sound knackering, although like you, it's what I used to do.   Brother and wife were coming but he slipped on the ice the week before Christmas and broke his femur, so the trip from Newcastle was a no no.   Christmas morning we took the dog to Sandringham for his normal walking, forgetting all about the royals and the place was packed, people walking all over the road etc.   They are totally nuts!  

hahaha had to laugh at the thought of your dog picking a fight with a statue. it is stunning though, what a beautiful present

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:01 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

there are far more democrats and leftwing liberals up for sexual assault than there are RWers

and trump didn't sexually assault anyone

he grabbed some high priced party whore by the pussy at one of his millionaire gatherings  

SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!

that's their job

racist comments?? that's relative to your perspective in life, you are not the final authority on what does and doesn't constitute racism.

you do not get to play judge jury and executioner and then validate your irrational and unthinking prejudice and hatred based on your own justification for said hatred and bigotry    

your shit stinks just as bad as everyone elses so give us a break and drop the damsel in distress act, its not fooling anyone

you're a bigot, you dislike trump because he doesn't have the values you do

you're no different to the KKK who hate blacks because they have a different colour skin

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:21 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Hating a person just because they are different to you

The never trumps like Ben and Quill are no better than racists who hate blacks just because they are black

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

there are far more democrats and leftwing liberals up for sexual assault than there are RWers

and trump didn't sexually assault anyone

he grabbed some high priced party whore by the pussy at one of his millionaire gatherings  

SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!

that's their job

racist comments?? that's relative to your perspective in life, you are not the final authority on what does and doesn't constitute racism.

you do not get to play judge jury and executioner and then validate your irrational and unthinking prejudice and hatred based on your own justification for said hatred and bigotry    

your shit stinks just as bad as everyone elses so give us a break and drop the damsel in distress act, its not fooling anyone

you're a bigot, you dislike trump because he doesn't have the values you do

you're no different to the KKK who hate blacks because they have a different colour skin


You're a little bitch who doesn't understand how the world works. I wish I had some real competition around here, but until that time I'll be happy to use you as my own personal punching bag whenever I feel like it.
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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:30 am

santa          present            cheers

I received an interesting present for Christmas...

My brother gave me a Record No. 7-ss (woodworking) 'Jointer' Plane, that he found on eBay..

I know that Lord Foul will recognise the usefulness/practicality in a beast like this, even if nobody else does (Record stopped making this item a few years ago..).

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by gelico on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:15 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Hating a person just because they are different to you

The never trumps like Ben and Quill are no better than racists who hate blacks just because they are black

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:21 am

Endless fun watching the intolerant preach tolerance and the selective outrage depending on the poster! Is smelly not allowed an opinion ? Tell you what read this thread back,is smelly like Wolfie who just insults and rants ? No but Wolfie hates Trump. Pathetic.

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Post by HoratioTarr on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:59 am

eddie wrote:I've had a really strange and at times, really tough year. I'd like to say I'd be unselfish and ask for world peace and shit but really, I'm hoping to get through the day without feeling too sad about Lisa. It's a day all about my children really and that's what I really want for Christmas....that they have a day of fun.

So. What do you want?


I really wish you all a lovely holiday, however you celebrate it.
I mean that.

I got one of these.    Lots of baking to do in 2018. Spreading some lurrve with the buttercream

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Post by HoratioTarr on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:06 am

gelico wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?  

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.  

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

Exactly. I'm amazed at how people get lambasted on here for not hating a particular political figure or ideology. Hating someone for not hating who you hate? Take a long hard look at that and think about it.
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Post by smelly-bandit on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:19 am

eddie wrote:What did you get for Christmas, smelly?

A cold

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:20 pm

sassy wrote:
Syl wrote:

Sassy, that is the most beautiful present, I could look at it for ages, its mesmerising.

I am like Nicko now....family was here yesterday, and today boxing day I always make a big buffet for son, grandsons and various girlfriends, and lovely though that is, its knackering....how lovely is it when they all happily go on their way, and OH and me are left alone....bliss.
Wouldnt have it any  other way though.

I really hope you all, whatever you got up to, had a very happy time over the last couple of days. I love you


Thanks Syl.  A really odd thing happened Boxing morning.   Benny our dog came downstairs, took one look at the wolf and went apeshit, only time I have ever seen him snarl.   Had to pick it up and show him it wasn't real!  Your boxing day sound knackering, although like you, it's what I used to do.   Brother and wife were coming but he slipped on the ice the week before Christmas and broke his femur, so the trip from Newcastle was a no no.   Christmas morning we took the dog to Sandringham for his normal walking, forgetting all about the royals and the place was packed, people walking all over the road etc.   They are totally nuts!  
Laughing ...animals can be very odd....maybe he thought it was an interloper vying for your affections. 

Ouch, your poor brother,  a broken femur doesn't sound like much fun.  No

Is anyone else glad Christmas is over?
I think it might be an age thing.....but I am.

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:42 pm

Wolves are beautiful animals Sassy, yours looks great.

I love Christmas Syl, but yesterday I was so exhausted, slept most of the day! Must be getting old lol.
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Post by nicko on Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:10 pm

Can't understand why some people really HATE with a vengeance POTUS, has he killed a relative of theirs?
Has he taken all your money? has he thrown you out of your house? Wait till the next election and vote him out. Of course if more people like him than those who don't..................your fucked ! Laughing
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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:07 pm

What is Trumps position on wolves? Wink

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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:38 pm

gelico wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?  

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.  

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

No one who voted for Hillary has any business judging Trump supporters. You're just different sides of the same coin. You may think she would ha e been a better president, but that's just a pragmatic view. Same as many Trump supporters take. If you want to climb on some moral high horse based on your selection of her over Trump, you're full of shit. If you are an American, and you didmt either leave that part of your ballot blank, write in a name, or vote 3rd party, you forfeit your right to be a sanctimonious prick towards those that did the same as you.

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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:18 pm

Maddog wrote:What is Trumps position on wolves?   Wink

Was that a rhetorical question or do you actually want to know.   I'm quite surprised you don't.  He's at war with most wildlife, but particularly bears and wolves.   Think I'm making it up, just put Trump/Bears/Wolves in Google.   Here is one of the answers that will come up:

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/37219/20170411/donald-trump-war-wildlife-lifts-ban-shooting-hibernating-bears-trapping-resting-wolves-other-wildlife-protection-laws.htm

Donald Trump's War on Wildlife: Trump Lifts Ban on Shooting Hibernating Bears, Trapping Resting Wolves, Other Wildlife Protection Laws
By Alixandra Caole Vila
Apr 11, 2017 06:41 AM EDT

Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon on Monday signed a resolution approved by the U.S. House and Senate to revoke a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service rule, overturning former president Barack Obama's wildlife protection law.

Under the previous wildlife protection law introduced by Obama, it was illegal for hunters to use aggressive and unfair tactics to capture grizzly bears, wolves and other Alaskan wildlife. However, the Alaskan hunting bill signed by Trump allows hunters to shoot hibernating bears, set up traps when wolves are resting with their cubs and use aircraft to track and kill wildlife refuges.

Metro UK cited that Alaska is home to 16 national wildlife refuges, which together cover 76 million acres of land.

The bill was co-authored by Ronald Young, Republican Congressman for Alaska, Independent News mentioned. The National Rifle Association (NRA), America's highly influential gun rights lobby, has also supported the bill.

"What the House did today should shock the conscience of every animal lover in America," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, in a statement. "If the Senate and President concur, we'll see wolf families killed in their dens, bears chased down by planes or suffering for hours in barbaric steel-jawed traps or snares."

Trump's administration has been repealing a number of other federal climate and conservation laws put forward by the Obama administration.

Last March, he has also signed an Executive Order to dismantle the Clean Water Rule, also known as the Waters of the United States. Dismantling the rule will leave pollution standards to individual states, risking the safety of those that share waterways with other people in other borders.

In the same month, his proposed federal budget revealed cutting the funds of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), slashing $2.6 billion from the agency that is responsible for most of America's climate change programs and initiatives.




Probably because his contemptible offspring think it makes them men to kill wild animals.




And on your other point, if I was an American there is no way I would have voted for Trump or Clinton, I would have been out there working for Bernie Sanders.

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:22 pm

sassy wrote:
Maddog wrote:What is Trumps position on wolves?   Wink

Was that a rhetorical question or do you actually want to know.   I'm quite surprised you don't.  He's at war with most wildlife, but particularly bears and wolves.   Think I'm making it up, just put Trump/Bears/Wolves in Google.   Here is one of the answers that will come up:

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/37219/20170411/donald-trump-war-wildlife-lifts-ban-shooting-hibernating-bears-trapping-resting-wolves-other-wildlife-protection-laws.htm

Donald Trump's War on Wildlife: Trump Lifts Ban on Shooting Hibernating Bears, Trapping Resting Wolves, Other Wildlife Protection Laws
By Alixandra Caole Vila
Apr 11, 2017 06:41 AM EDT

Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon on Monday signed a resolution approved by the U.S. House and Senate to revoke a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service rule, overturning former president Barack Obama's wildlife protection law.

Under the previous wildlife protection law introduced by Obama, it was illegal for hunters to use aggressive and unfair tactics to capture grizzly bears, wolves and other Alaskan wildlife. However, the Alaskan hunting bill signed by Trump allows hunters to shoot hibernating bears, set up traps when wolves are resting with their cubs and use aircraft to track and kill wildlife refuges.

Metro UK cited that Alaska is home to 16 national wildlife refuges, which together cover 76 million acres of land.

The bill was co-authored by Ronald Young, Republican Congressman for Alaska, Independent News mentioned. The National Rifle Association (NRA), America's highly influential gun rights lobby, has also supported the bill.

"What the House did today should shock the conscience of every animal lover in America," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, in a statement. "If the Senate and President concur, we'll see wolf families killed in their dens, bears chased down by planes or suffering for hours in barbaric steel-jawed traps or snares."

Trump's administration has been repealing a number of other federal climate and conservation laws put forward by the Obama administration.

Last March, he has also signed an Executive Order to dismantle the Clean Water Rule, also known as the Waters of the United States. Dismantling the rule will leave pollution standards to individual states, risking the safety of those that share waterways with other people in other borders.

In the same month, his proposed federal budget revealed cutting the funds of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), slashing $2.6 billion from the agency that is responsible for most of America's climate change programs and initiatives.




Probably because his contemptible offspring think it makes them men to kill wild animals.




And on your other point, if I was an American there is no way I would have voted for Trump or Clinton, I would have been out there working for Bernie Sanders.

It was more of a joke. I know Trumps position on hunting. It's the same as mine.

Working for Sanders would have taken you up to the convention. After that Sanders was not on the ballot. Would you have wrote his name in in your ballot?

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by eddie on Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:54 pm

The season of peace and goodwill unto others....seems none of us are perfect

Oh and by the way? My Christmas was blah because really, it's just a day of money spent on shit and loads of fake happiness.

I had a great day about three weeks ago in a Wednesday. That should've been Christmas Day, I had a much better time.

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:02 pm

Probably because expectations are so high at Christmas time, and even when all goes well it can be a bit of an anti climax.
I always think Christmas is better when there are young kids around...when they grow up it loses a bit of the magic imo.

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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:04 pm

Syl wrote:Probably because expectations are so high at Christmas time, and even when all goes well it can be a bit of an anti climax.
I always think Christmas is better when there are young kids around...when they grow up it loses a bit of the magic imo.

Yup. My daughters are grown and don't have kids. I cooked a decent meal and we watched football. Nothing exciting.

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:07 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:Probably because expectations are so high at Christmas time, and even when all goes well it can be a bit of an anti climax.
I always think Christmas is better when there are young kids around...when they grow up it loses a bit of the magic imo.

Yup. My daughters are grown and don't have kids. I cooked a decent meal and we watched football. Nothing exciting.

If you ever do have grandkids the magic will come back in spades. santa

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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:47 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Yup. My daughters are grown and don't have kids. I cooked a decent meal and we watched football. Nothing exciting.

If you ever do have grandkids the magic will come back in spades. santa

Yeah, two of them got engaged during the past 3 months or so. I expect the babies will start getting cranked out shortly. Shocked

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:04 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

If you ever do have grandkids the magic will come back in spades. santa

Yeah, two of them got engaged during the past 3 months or so. I expect the babies will start getting cranked out shortly.  Shocked  

I hope they do...being a grandparent is possible the happiest time in a persons life...all the fun and you can give em back when you want to.  cheers

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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:49 pm

Maddog wrote:
sassy wrote:

Was that a rhetorical question or do you actually want to know.   I'm quite surprised you don't.  He's at war with most wildlife, but particularly bears and wolves.   Think I'm making it up, just put Trump/Bears/Wolves in Google.   Here is one of the answers that will come up:

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/37219/20170411/donald-trump-war-wildlife-lifts-ban-shooting-hibernating-bears-trapping-resting-wolves-other-wildlife-protection-laws.htm

Donald Trump's War on Wildlife: Trump Lifts Ban on Shooting Hibernating Bears, Trapping Resting Wolves, Other Wildlife Protection Laws
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Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon on Monday signed a resolution approved by the U.S. House and Senate to revoke a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service rule, overturning former president Barack Obama's wildlife protection law.

Under the previous wildlife protection law introduced by Obama, it was illegal for hunters to use aggressive and unfair tactics to capture grizzly bears, wolves and other Alaskan wildlife. However, the Alaskan hunting bill signed by Trump allows hunters to shoot hibernating bears, set up traps when wolves are resting with their cubs and use aircraft to track and kill wildlife refuges.

Metro UK cited that Alaska is home to 16 national wildlife refuges, which together cover 76 million acres of land.

The bill was co-authored by Ronald Young, Republican Congressman for Alaska, Independent News mentioned. The National Rifle Association (NRA), America's highly influential gun rights lobby, has also supported the bill.

"What the House did today should shock the conscience of every animal lover in America," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, in a statement. "If the Senate and President concur, we'll see wolf families killed in their dens, bears chased down by planes or suffering for hours in barbaric steel-jawed traps or snares."

Trump's administration has been repealing a number of other federal climate and conservation laws put forward by the Obama administration.

Last March, he has also signed an Executive Order to dismantle the Clean Water Rule, also known as the Waters of the United States. Dismantling the rule will leave pollution standards to individual states, risking the safety of those that share waterways with other people in other borders.

In the same month, his proposed federal budget revealed cutting the funds of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), slashing $2.6 billion from the agency that is responsible for most of America's climate change programs and initiatives.




Probably because his contemptible offspring think it makes them men to kill wild animals.




And on your other point, if I was an American there is no way I would have voted for Trump or Clinton, I would have been out there working for Bernie Sanders.

It was more of a joke. I know Trumps position on hunting.  It's the same as mine.  

Working for Sanders would have taken you up to the convention.  After that Sanders was not on the ballot.  Would you have wrote his name in in your ballot?


That is exactly what I would have done, because if you can't stay true to your beliefs when making political decisions you might as well not bother to have principles in the first place.

As for hunting, you think that shooting a bear while it is hibernating is sport and ok? I cannot believe that anyone with a moral bone in their body could think so.

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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:33 pm

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Maddog wrote:

It was more of a joke. I know Trumps position on hunting.  It's the same as mine.  

Working for Sanders would have taken you up to the convention.  After that Sanders was not on the ballot.  Would you have wrote his name in in your ballot?


That is exactly what I would have done, because if you can't stay true to your beliefs when making political decisions you might as well not bother to have principles in the first place.

As for hunting, you think that shooting a bear while it is hibernating is sport and ok?   I cannot believe that anyone with a moral bone in their body could think so.

I would have to look into the whole shooting a bear while it's sleeping story. Bear hunting is managed by the states, and I would like to see where a state would allow for that. Maybe in an attempt to eradicate some nuisance bears, wildlife managers would kill a hibernating bear.

As for voting, I support and applaud your decision to not be "pragmatic".

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Post by Maddog on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:36 pm

The U.S. House of Representatives overturned a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service rule that stopped a set of appalling and unsporting predator control methods on national wildlife refuges in Alaska. These egregious practices include shooting or trapping wolves while at their dens with cubs, using airplanes to scout for grizzly bears to shoot, trapping bears with cruel steel-jawed leghold traps and wire snares and luring grizzly bears with food to get a point blank kill. Republicans, with only a few dissents, provided the votes for the measure, which passed by a vote of 225 to 193.

In reality, however, most of those practices were already prohibited to sport hunters under Alaska law, and some of them, including hunting coyotes in their dens and killing hibernating bears and cubs, were permitted to subsistence hunters even under the federal regulations.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/04/04/house-votes-killing-hibernating-bears-alaska/

About as I suspected. Wink

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:42 am

gelico wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?  

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.  

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

Rolling Eyes

"Clinton is worse than Trump"....

Outright fucking bullshit,  on gelico's part..

Neither Clinton has ever been worse than Trump.

You stupid fascist, racist, lying dullard..

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Post by Maddog on Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:04 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
gelico wrote:

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?  

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.  

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

Rolling Eyes

"Clinton is worse than Trump"....

Outright fucking bullshit,  on gelico's part..

Neither Clinton has ever been worse than Trump.

You stupid fascist, racist, lying dullard..

The Clintons are in the same league. That's why they were such good buddies with Trump back in the day. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:53 am

Maddog wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

"Clinton is worse than Trump"....

Outright fucking bullshit,  on gelico's part..

Neither Clinton has ever been worse than Trump.

You stupid fascist, racist, lying dullard..

The Clintons are in the same league. That's why they were such good buddies with Trump back in the day. Cool  

That belief is why the prisoners are in charge of the prison. Such believers are against all law-abiding citizens.

They don't know the difference between law and order, and racist tribalism.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:15 am

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Maddog wrote:

It was more of a joke. I know Trumps position on hunting.  It's the same as mine.  

Working for Sanders would have taken you up to the convention.  After that Sanders was not on the ballot.  Would you have wrote his name in in your ballot?


That is exactly what I would have done, because if you can't stay true to your beliefs when making political decisions you might as well not bother to have principles in the first place.

As for hunting, you think that shooting a bear while it is hibernating is sport and ok?   I cannot believe that anyone with a moral bone in their body could think so.

Errr

When do you think the best time to shoot a bear is??

Not when it's pissed off and charging you down let me tell you.

"I say Mr bear could you possibly wake up and engage me in a fair duel at dawn"

No thanks

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Post by eddie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:18 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
gelico wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

I hate Trump because I think he's a bad person. I think he's a bad person because I was raised to believe that people who commit (and brag about) sexual assault, who make racist comments, who have the power to help people but instead hurt them, and who constantly brag about their own (often dubious) achievements are bad people.

There. Simple enough for even you to grasp.

that doesn't make much sense to me Ben, tbh

Do you hate Hilary CLinton?  

Her husband committed rape and sexual assault and she smeared and threatened his victims, do you hate her for that?

Hilary Clinton has made racist comments

Hilary Clinton had the power to help people but she hurt them (Haiti) and pocketed shed loads of money through pay to play schemes, do you hate her for that?

She has lied about everything.  

she is not just a bad person she is evil but Donald Trump just gets on my wick

there is a difference

you hate trump but wont say a word about clinton who is 1000x worse

Rolling Eyes

"Clinton is worse than Trump"....

Outright fucking bullshit,  on gelico's part..

Neither Clinton has ever been worse than Trump.

You stupid fascist, racist, lying dullard..

Wolf, how about trying not to insult people when you disagree with them?
Seriously. I'm getting a pissed off with it.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:41 pm

Suspect

@ eddie...

How about those obnoxious 'Flopheaded dingbats like gelico and Smelly stop posting so many outright lies, racist crap, and Trump propaganda ???

It's one thing to simply give honest and personal opinions (like nicko, Fred' and Maddog usually do..) on political subjects -- but for months we have been seeing the likes of Smelly, gelico, Didge and VoD regularly plastering political propaganda pieces, lamely attempting to pass them off as personal opinions..

And then there's the way that you and Victor often choose to ignore the Floptards' personal, xenophobic and nationalistic attacks against the Aussie and American members on here, but will jump into calling out me or Andy when we react against those attacks ?

If the likes of gelico and Smelly stopped their outright assaulys on left-wingers and moderates around here, maybe some of us might stop returning that abuse..

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Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:48 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Suspect

@ eddie...

How about those obnoxious 'Flopheaded dingbats like gelico and Smelly stop posting so many outright lies, racist crap, and Trump propaganda ???

It's one thing to simply give honest and personal opinions (like nicko, Fred' and Maddog usually do..) on political subjects --  but for months we have been seeing the likes of Smelly, gelico, Didge and VoD regularly plastering political propaganda pieces, lamely attempting to pass them off as personal opinions..

And then there's the way that you and Victor often choose to ignore the Floptards'  personal, xenophobic and nationalistic attacks against the Aussie and American members on here, but will jump into calling out me or Andy when we react against those attacks  ?

If the likes of gelico and Smelly stopped their outright assaulys on left-wingers and moderates around here, maybe some of us might stop returning that abuse..

Ha ha

You got told off by teacher


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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:49 pm

Ah the sign of a true toltalitarian Commie.

Trying to censur people, simple because he does not like their views. Where constantly we are accused of constant accusations that are unfounded. Where anyone right of Stalin, is a fascist to the wetwipe.

At then end of the day wetwipe, the way you are going, you will get placed in the basement again, because all you ever post is pathetic insults. So from now until you post with manners. I will refer to you as wetwipe.

The reality is, you are the one trying to silence peoples views, who again to you, anything Liberal, is defined as fascist. You never even counter the view, but costantly charge people as being racist and fascist. Its not a reasoned debate, but you slagging off people, showing you have little intellect and act like a toddler

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Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:51 pm

Actually wolfie come to think of it you're a bit of a cry baby aren't you??

Thought you aussies were more robust than that.

Get another shrimp on the barbie, have a fosters and feel better.

Its Christmas time for goodness sake

Show some goodwill to your fellow man

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Post by eddie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:19 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Suspect

@ eddie...

How about those obnoxious 'Flopheaded dingbats like gelico and Smelly stop posting so many outright lies, racist crap, and Trump propaganda ???

It's one thing to simply give honest and personal opinions (like nicko, Fred' and Maddog usually do..) on political subjects --  but for months we have been seeing the likes of Smelly, gelico, Didge and VoD regularly plastering political propaganda pieces, lamely attempting to pass them off as personal opinions..

And then there's the way that you and Victor often choose to ignore the Floptards'  personal, xenophobic and nationalistic attacks against the Aussie and American members on here, but will jump into calling out me or Andy when we react against those attacks  ?

If the likes of gelico and Smelly stopped their outright assaulys on left-wingers and moderates around here, maybe some of us might stop returning that abuse..



Firstly, the stories about Trump are not insulting to any posters on newsfix - do you see the difference?

Secondly, you said:

And then there's the way that you and Victor often choose to ignore the Floptards'  personal, xenophobic and nationalistic attacks against the Aussie and American members on here, but will jump into calling out me or Andy when we react against those attacks  ?

Please show me where you and others DON'T make these attacks or retaliate in the same fashion. And here, I've rewritten your words for you, because you were too frightened to name anyone else:

And then there's the way that you and Victor and Ben and eilzel and Veya often choose to ignore the Floptards'  personal, xenophobic and nationalistic attacks against the Aussie and American members on here, but will jump into calling out me or Andy when we react against those attacks  ?



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Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:23 pm

I'd go one further eddie if I may and ask wolfie to show where I or anyone but him resort to insults of any kind.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:48 pm

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I'd go one further eddie if I may and ask wolfie to show where I or anyone but him resort to insults of any kind.



Who are you trying to kid, Smelly' ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:54 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:
I'd go one further eddie if I may and ask wolfie to show where I or anyone but him resort to insults of any kind.



Who are you trying to kid,  Smelly'  ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:54 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:
I'd go one further eddie if I may and ask wolfie to show where I or anyone but him resort to insults of any kind.



Who are you trying to kid,  Smelly'  ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

I think you might just be overly sensitive

Since didge reported me to Lord Foul for being a big meany I don't post to him anymore.

Ben I avoid

Quill is big enough to fight his own battles and I never insult eddie

News flash

Ramming some home truths up your ass is not the same as insulting you.

So so sensitive

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Post by eddie on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:56 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:
I'd go one further eddie if I may and ask wolfie to show where I or anyone but him resort to insults of any kind.



Who are you trying to kid,  Smelly'  ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

Holy fucking hell on a shit stick!

How am I supposed to see every post made by every poster?

ALL OF THE "MY COUNTRY" ATTACKS on here are made in retaliation! All of them!

Show me right now where anyone has simply arrived on a thread and called you names for being Australian FIRST. SHOW ME OR SHUT UP.

Let me tell you something - I am not the only admin who is sick of your insults day after day. We all are.
ALL of us - English, American and Australian, right wing, left wing, no wing.


So don't try and pretend it's only Vic, Les and I because we are English - I find that to be a lie and an insult.

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by Guest on Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:56 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
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Who are you trying to kid,  Smelly'  ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

I think you might just be overly sensitive

Since didge reported me to Lord Foul for being a big meany I don't post to him anymore.


Still lying I see

It was pointed out to you, that I never reported you to Lord Foul

When someone uses the report facility, it goes to all the mods and I have never reported you to any of them.

But its does make me laugh, you still cry your eyes out over Lord Foul seeing for himself you were out of order and you have since constantly needed a cuddle.

So you want to punish me over nothing I did.

What a snowflake

As lets face it, the only reason you placed me on ignore, as I kept making you look rather foolish

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by smelly-bandit on Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:09 pm

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


Who are you trying to kid,  Smelly'  ?

Every other post you have made over this past week has been insulting someone on here, whether that was Ben, Quill, Didge, me, Lurker, even eddie herself.

On the other hand most of my insults were reacting against bullshit posts, otfen xenophobic, nationalist or racist tainted garbage, from prats like you and gelico..

When I see the English mods on here giving equal time to criticising regular xenophobic and racist posts by their fellow English NF members, then I might take them more seriously.

Holy fucking hell on a shit stick!

How am I supposed to see every post made by every poster?

ALL OF THE "MY COUNTRY" ATTACKS on here are made in retaliation! All of them!

Show me right now where anyone has simply arrived on a thread and called you names for being Australian FIRST. SHOW ME OR SHUT UP.

Let me tell you something - I am not the only admin who is sick of your insults day after day.  We all are.  
ALL of us - English, American and Australian, right wing, left wing, no wing.


So don't try and pretend it's only Vic, Les and I because we are English - I find that to be a lie and an insult.

Oh!
For the record, all of you who try and see who's country has the biggest cock are boring individuals. No sane person cares.

In wolfies defence eddie

I did accuse him of sipping fosters round the barbie.

Maybe he took offence at my gentle ribbing

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Re: What do you really want for Christmas?

Post by Syl on Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:22 pm

Didge wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

I think you might just be overly sensitive

Since didge reported me to Lord Foul for being a big meany I don't post to him anymore.


Still lying I see

It was pointed out to you, that I never reported you to Lord Foul

When someone uses the report facility, it goes to all the mods and I have never reported you to any of them.

But its does make me laugh, you still cry your eyes out over Lord Foul seeing for himself you were out of order and you have since constantly needed a cuddle.

So you want to punish me over nothing I did.

What a snowflake

As lets face it, the only reason you placed me on ignore, as I kept making you look rather foolish

Razz

I reckon you are right there Didge....he childishly keeps me on ignore too...refusing to answer any of my posts even in the threads he starts himself.
The problem with him is unless he can press peoples buttons he has no interest in debating anything with them....thank God the rest of the posters don't follow that tack, it would be a very disjointed forum if we did.

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