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Post by Maddog on Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:58 pm

AT&T (T) plans to give a special $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 employees as Republicans get closer to signing tax reform into law.

“If the President signs the bill before Christmas, employees will receive the bonus over the holidays,” the company said in a statement.

Shortly after AT&T made the announcement, Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon highlighted the news as he celebrated the passing of the tax bill.

“And that’s because of what we did. That’s pretty good,” Trump said. “That’s pretty good.”

CEO Randall Stephenson said that this tax reform “will drive economic growth and create good-paying jobs.” He added that the company plans to increase its capital investment, which will create more jobs.

Speaking at an Economic Club of New York lunch in late November, Stephenson said that if tax reform passed they would spend “at least” $1 billion and create an estimated 7,000 jobs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/att-plans-give-1000-bonuses-200000-employees-tax-reform-193620207.html

Too bad the Republicans didn't really cut taxes, instead of half assing it. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:25 pm

Better for the company, a bonus than a wage increase.

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Original Quill wrote:Better for the company, a bonus than a wage increase.

It's better to get a grand than to not get a grand. Especially this time of year. No doubt someone will try to spin this into a negative.

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Original Quill wrote:Better for the company, a bonus than a wage increase.

It's better to get a grand than to not get a grand.  Especially this time of year.  No doubt someone will try to spin this into a negative.  

No question. But in response to the Republican trickle-down theory, considering there are too many jobs available as it is, and the response that what is needed is wages, not jobs ... I'm just admiring how a large company avoided the issue of higher wages, while gaining themselves a bit of PR.

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It's better to get a grand than to not get a grand.  Especially this time of year.  No doubt someone will try to spin this into a negative.  

No question.  But in response to the Republican trickle-down theory, considering there are too many jobs available as it is, and the response that what is needed is wages, not jobs ... I'm just admiring how a large company avoided the issue of higher wages, while gaining themselves a bit of PR.

Bonuses are usually tied to profits. There's more profit. Perhaps there will be a similar profit next year as the tax rate will still be lower.

I'm any event it's always good news when less money goes to Washington and more stays in the citizens pockets. The people that actually work for a living.

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Maddog wrote:Bonuses are usually tied to profits.

So are fair wages.

Bonuses are usually cheaper in the long run than a fair wage.  I am just suspicious when the company doesn't want to commit to a longer term wage.

Besides, I don't hear any talk about next year. If they are planning something for next year, why not make it a wage?

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It's appears that in the eyes of some, Trump can do no good.

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smelly-bandit wrote:
It's appears that in the eyes of some, Trump can do no good.

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Maddog wrote:Bonuses are usually tied to profits.

So are fair wages.

Bonuses are usually cheaper in the long run than a fair wage.  I am just suspicious when the company doesn't want to commit to a longer term wage.

Besides, I don't hear any talk about next year.  If they are planning something for next year, why not make it a wage?

They don't know next year's performance yet. Bonuses will be doled out based on the figures at the end of next year.

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So are fair wages.

Bonuses are usually cheaper in the long run than a fair wage.  I am just suspicious when the company doesn't want to commit to a longer term wage.

Besides, I don't hear any talk about next year.  If they are planning something for next year, why not make it a wage?

They don't know next year's performance yet.  Bonuses will be doled out based on the figures at the end of next year.  

The Republicans told us the next years performance will be exceptional. In fact, by their own admission, they need a 3-5% growth in order for the Tax bill not to start the deficit skyrocketing. So either we bet on it, or we close up shop.

The fact is, you are falling for the hype. You are not looking between the cracks in the floor. Seeing that they are only giving bonuses, not wages, tells us that they don't intend to grow or invest anything. They want the appearance, not the reality.

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They don't know next year's performance yet.  Bonuses will be doled out based on the figures at the end of next year.  

The Republicans told us the next years performance will be exceptional.  In fact, by their own admission, they need a 3-5% growth in order for the Tax bill not to start the deficit skyrocketing.  So either we bet on it, or we close up shop.

The fact is, you are falling for the hype.  You are not looking between the cracks in the floor.  Seeing that they are only giving bonuses, not wages, tells us that they don't intend to grow or invest anything.  They want the appearance, not the reality.

No one knows how AT&T will perform next year.

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The Republicans told us the next years performance will be exceptional.  In fact, by their own admission, they need a 3-5% growth in order for the Tax bill not to start the deficit skyrocketing.  So either we bet on it, or we close up shop.

The fact is, you are falling for the hype.  You are not looking between the cracks in the floor.  Seeing that they are only giving bonuses, not wages, tells us that they don't intend to grow or invest anything.  They want the appearance, not the reality.

No one knows how AT&T will perform next year.

Then why did they say the tax cut will mean increased revenue for the country? If the tax cut fails to deliver, we will be in the next depression.

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Why are the never trumps and the Remainers so similar??

Full of doom and gloom that never comes to pass.

So sad being so negative all the time

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smelly-bandit wrote:Why are the never trumps and the Remainers so similar??

Full of doom and gloom that never comes to pass.

So sad being so negative all the time

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No one knows how AT&T will perform next year.

Then why did they say the tax cut will mean increased revenue for the country?  If the tax cut fails to deliver, we will be in the next depression.

Some companies will do great, others won't. Some will even go bankrupt.

Do you really think that companies promise bonuses on profits yet to be earned?

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Then why did they say the tax cut will mean increased revenue for the country?  If the tax cut fails to deliver, we will be in the next depression.

Some companies will do great, others won't.  Some will even go bankrupt.  

Do you really think that companies promise bonuses on profits yet to be earned?

You are changing the subject. We were talking about what they would do next year, when the money is already earned.

Bottom line: the Republicans promised 3-5% growth with the Tax Reform Act. You seem not to believe that now...which I think is wise. With a $1.5-2.0-trillion deficit added because of this irresponsible legislation, we are going to have to cut that huge defense department budget.

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Some companies will do great, others won't.  Some will even go bankrupt.  

Do you really think that companies promise bonuses on profits yet to be earned?

You are changing the subject.  We were talking about what they would do next year, when the money is already earned.

Bottom line: the Republicans promised 3-5% growth with the Tax Reform Act.  You seem not to believe that now...which I think is wise.  With a $1.5-2.0-trillion deficit added because of this irresponsible legislation, we are going to have to cut that huge defense department budget.

When did deficit spending become irresponsible? Wink

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You are changing the subject.  We were talking about what they would do next year, when the money is already earned.

Bottom line: the Republicans promised 3-5% growth with the Tax Reform Act.  You seem not to believe that now...which I think is wise.  With a $1.5-2.0-trillion deficit added because of this irresponsible legislation, we are going to have to cut that huge defense department budget.

When did deficit spending become irresponsible?  Wink

So...suddenly you are in favor of it?

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When did deficit spending become irresponsible?  Wink

So...suddenly you are in favor of it?

No. I'm just honest enough to say its not a good idea regardless of which party is doing it. Someone bitching about the current level of deficit spending should have been going apeshit about the levels we saw during the past few years. Funny thing is, many of the people bitching about deficit spending now, said it didn't matter at all, just a few years ago.

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smelly-bandit wrote:Why are the never trumps and the Remainers so similar??

Full of doom and gloom that never comes to pass.

So sad being so negative all the time

And you, by comparison, are a perfect ray of warm summer sun.

Ooooh! Call yourself Sunny Bandit! bounce

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So...suddenly you are in favor of it?

No. I'm just honest enough to say its not a good idea regardless of which party is doing it. Someone bitching about the current level of deficit spending should have been going apeshit about the levels we saw during the past few years. Funny thing is, many of the people bitching about deficit spending now, said it didn't matter at all, just a few years ago.

I am consistent. cheers  

I think most people are concerned about the evils of deficit spending.  It's an evil that certain people tolerate only when the prize has them salivating.

But there is a silver lining.  Deficits create pressure; the balloon bulges at the other side.  Republicans calculate that the bulge they create will generate the incentive to cut spending.

Here's the myth: Republicans believe that the spending is all for social safety net programs, which they would love to cut.  Won't they be surprised when they find that it has all been going to war and military programs?  You can't cut social safety net programs enough to make up for a $2-trillion deficit.

Shocked  I would love to see the look on their faces when they see the monster they have created.  And the furrowed brow, contemplating how to pay for it.  Crying or Very sad

Laughing

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Original Quill wrote:
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No. I'm just honest enough to say its not a good idea regardless of which party is doing it. Someone bitching about the current level of deficit spending should have been going apeshit about the levels we saw during the past few years. Funny thing is, many of the people bitching about deficit spending now, said it didn't matter at all, just a few years ago.

I am consistent. cheers  

I think most people are concerned about the evils of deficit spending.  It's an evil that certain people tolerate only when the prize has them salivating.

But there is a silver lining.  Deficits create pressure; the balloon bulges at the other side.  Republicans calculate that the bulge they create will generate the incentive to cut spending.

Here's the myth: Republicans believe that the spending is all for social safety net programs, which they would love to cut.  Won't they be surprised when they find that it has all been going to war and military programs?  You can't cut social safety net programs enough to make up for a $2-trillion deficit.

Shocked  I would love to see the look on their faces when they see the monster they have created.  And the furrowed brow, contemplating how to pay for it.  Crying or Very sad

Laughing

I don't think most people give a shit about deficit spending. That's why it's the rule, as opposed to the exception. We added about 10 trillion in debt during the past 8 years. Hardly anyone gave a shit.

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Maddog wrote:
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I think most people are concerned about the evils of deficit spending.  It's an evil that certain people tolerate only when the prize has them salivating.

But there is a silver lining.  Deficits create pressure; the balloon bulges at the other side.  Republicans calculate that the bulge they create will generate the incentive to cut spending.

Here's the myth: Republicans believe that the spending is all for social safety net programs, which they would love to cut.  Won't they be surprised when they find that it has all been going to war and military programs?  You can't cut social safety net programs enough to make up for a $2-trillion deficit.

Shocked  I would love to see the look on their faces when they see the monster they have created.  And the furrowed brow, contemplating how to pay for it.  Crying or Very sad

Laughing

I don't think most people give a shit about deficit spending. That's why it's the rule, as opposed to the exception. We added about 10 trillion in debt during the past 8 years. Hardly anyone gave a shit.

We got indebted to $17-trillion having a fun war in Iraq, too.

So you're saying when it comes to money, people are stupid?

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Post by Maddog on Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:57 pm

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I don't think most people give a shit about deficit spending. That's why it's the rule, as opposed to the exception. We added about 10 trillion in debt during the past 8 years. Hardly anyone gave a shit.

We got indebted to $17-trillion having a fun war in Iraq, too.

So you're saying when it comes to money, people are stupid?

We're at 20 Trillion now. Very few people care. But a few people that didn't care, care now, and few people that did care, don't now. Shocked

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Maddog wrote:
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We got indebted to $17-trillion having a fun war in Iraq, too.

So you're saying when it comes to money, people are stupid?

We're at 20 Trillion now. Very few people care. But a few people that didn't care, care now, and few people that did care, don't now. Shocked  

Very few southerners care. The white-supremacists, racist and nationalists don't really calculate...they move on bowel urges. So remote elements of macro-economic theory would not be in their wheelhouse.

When the Bush Republicans were running up their $17-trillion debt, Dick Cheney said “deficits don’t matter." It was quite a hoot coming from a member of the party, Republican, that has been lecturing us about deficits for half a century.

Actually, though, others in New England and California do care. Because they realize that long term interest rates and the level of the economy turn on what is the level of the deficit. It only doesn't matter when you are flush. Some people are unable to think abstractly enough to comprehend anything beyond their immediate surroundings.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:36 pm

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We're at 20 Trillion now. Very few people care. But a few people that didn't care, care now, and few people that did care, don't now. Shocked  

Very few southerners care.  The white-supremacists, racist and nationalists don't really calculate...they move on bowel urges.  So remote elements of macro-economic theory would not be in their wheelhouse.

When the Bush Republicans were running up their $17-trillion debt, Dick Cheney said “deficits don’t matter."  It was quite a hoot coming from a member of the party, Republican, that has been lecturing us about deficits for half a century.

Actually, though, others in New England and California do care.  Because they realize that long term interest rates and the level of the economy turn on what is the level of the deficit.  It only doesn't matter when you are flush.  Some people are unable to think abstractly enough to comprehend anything beyond their immediate surroundings.

The debt was 10 trillion when Bush left office.

What country do you live in?

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Very few southerners care.  The white-supremacists, racist and nationalists don't really calculate...they move on bowel urges.  So remote elements of macro-economic theory would not be in their wheelhouse.

When the Bush Republicans were running up their $17-trillion debt, Dick Cheney said “deficits don’t matter."  It was quite a hoot coming from a member of the party, Republican, that has been lecturing us about deficits for half a century.

Actually, though, others in New England and California do care.  Because they realize that long term interest rates and the level of the economy turn on what is the level of the deficit.  It only doesn't matter when you are flush.  Some people are unable to think abstractly enough to comprehend anything beyond their immediate surroundings.

The debt was 10 trillion when Bush left office.  

What country do you live in?

Nope. When Bush came in, Clinton had left the coffers with $268-billion in the black. During Bush's tenure, only two significant things had happened: 1) the tax cut for the rich, with a hope for trickle-down (which did not happen); 2) the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. When Bush left, the deficit was at $17-trillion. Do the math.

Trust me, I was watching.


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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:20 am

This bonus is a drop in the bucket for a corporation like AT&T. It's basically a campaign donation to Trump in the form of (hopeful) political goodwill in lieu of cash. How anybody doesn't see that is beyond me.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:41 am

Ben Reilly wrote:This bonus is a drop in the bucket for a corporation like AT&T. It's basically a campaign donation to Trump in the form of (hopeful) political goodwill in lieu of cash. How anybody doesn't see that is beyond me.

Amen.  The Tax-cut was for the rich.  What have I always said: Republicans represent special interests; only Democrats represent the general interest.  The Tax bill is wildly unpopular because, these days, with social media alive, the truth in the details comes out.

In order to make the Tax bill politically successful--ie, change peoples' minds--people have to see some good in it--remember, like how Obamacare turned around(?).  So AT&T is simply trying to put on a show for the plebeians.  It costs a company like AT&T, what, $200,000?  Chump change.  They are saying, in essence, Look you country-bumpkins, cash, lots 'o money, comin' down like rain!! But if it were real, it would be long-term in wages.

Now do you understand why its a bonus, and not long-term wages?


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Post by Original Quill on Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:51 am

It ain't in the paycheck, redneck. It's all in the bonus.

Otherwise, that nails it right properly!

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Original Quill wrote:It ain't in the paycheck, redneck.  It's all in the bonus.

Otherwise, that nails it right properly!

So now I'm a red neck??

When did I stop being a Russian agent??

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Post by Maddog on Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:17 pm

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Original Quill wrote:It ain't in the paycheck, redneck.  It's all in the bonus.

Otherwise, that nails it right properly!

So now I'm a red neck??

When did I stop being a Russian agent??

Jesus. I'm the Redneck!!!

All Texans are Rednecks. That's how stereotypes work. Wink

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Post by Maddog on Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:18 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:This bonus is a drop in the bucket for a corporation like AT&T. It's basically a campaign donation to Trump in the form of (hopeful) political goodwill in lieu of cash. How anybody doesn't see that is beyond me.

Was it mandatory?

Did you get $1000 bonus this Christmas? If so, were you not appreciative?

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Post by Maddog on Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:20 pm

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The debt was 10 trillion when Bush left office.  

What country do you live in?

Nope.  When Bush came in, Clinton had left the coffers with $268-billion in the black.  During Bush's tenure, only two significant things had happened: 1) the tax cut for the rich, with a hope for trickle-down (which did not happen); 2) the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  When Bush left, the deficit was at $17-trillion.  Do the math.

Trust me, I was watching.


Sweet fucking Jesus you're an idiot. Do you know the difference between the debt and deficit?

Let me get a graph for you since operating the internet is too fucking difficult for an former attorney, federal prosecuter and professor. Shocked

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:21 pm

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So now I'm a red neck??

When did I stop being a Russian agent??

Jesus. I'm the Redneck!!!

All Texans are Rednecks. That's how stereotypes work.   Wink

Was he talking to you??

His train of thought is like a drunkard trying to find his way home, can never quite make our what he is on about


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Nope.  When Bush came in, Clinton had left the coffers with $268-billion in the black.  During Bush's tenure, only two significant things had happened: 1) the tax cut for the rich, with a hope for trickle-down (which did not happen); 2) the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  When Bush left, the deficit was at $17-trillion.  Do the math.

Trust me, I was watching.


Sweet fucking Jesus you're an idiot. Do you know the difference between the debt and deficit?  

Let me get a graph for you since operating the internet is too fucking difficult for an former attorney, federal prosecuter and professor. Shocked  

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Quill, please inform the class what the debt was in 2008 at the start of the Obama administration. How in the fuck can an American know so little about his own damn country and its finances?

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Quill, please inform the class what the debt was in 2008 at the start of the Obama administration. How in the fuck can an American know so little about his own damn country and its finances?

Bullshite, Breitbart can print up any graph you want.  Fake news. Rolling Eyes

I was there.


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Quill, please inform the class what the debt was in 2008 at the start of the Obama administration. How in the fuck can an American know so little about his own damn country and its finances?

Bullshite, Breitbart can print up any graph you want.  Fake news. Rolling Eyes

I was there.

It's not Breitbart.


Are you really this poorly informed?


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There are millions of them now.  You up load it to serving.com and call it down whenever you want.

You're dealing with fake news.

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Post by Maddog on Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:29 pm

Original Quill wrote:There are millions of them now.  You up load it to serving.com and call it down whenever you want.

You're dealing with fake news.


You're free to post your own graph, showing the debt in real dollars. Cool


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Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:There are millions of them now.  You up load it to serving.com and call it down whenever you want.

You're dealing with fake news.


You're free to post your own graph, showing the debt in real dollars.    Cool  

Soz, I didn't draw a graph. I just lived it.

Fake news doesn't cut it.

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You're free to post your own graph, showing the debt in real dollars.    Cool  

Soz, I didn't draw a graph.  I just lived it.

Fake news doesn't cut it.

This is turning out to be a bigger shower of shit than the retreat from Moscow.

Come on Quill, give us something better than "Fake News"




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Soz, I didn't draw a graph.  I just lived it.

Fake news doesn't cut it.

This is turning out to be a  bigger shower of shit than the retreat from Moscow.

Come on Quill, give us something better than  "Fake News"

You're in your Russian bot mode. I'll wait 'til you have some content.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:12 pm

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This is turning out to be a  bigger shower of shit than the retreat from Moscow.

Come on Quill, give us something better than  "Fake News"

You're in your Russian bot mode.  I'll wait 'til you have some content.

Maddog has already given you some content.

Get your dentures round it and give us some commentary

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You're free to post your own graph, showing the debt in real dollars.    Cool  

Soz, I didn't draw a graph.  I just lived it.

Fake news doesn't cut it.

I lived it too. Unlike you I posted information to back up what every American should sorta know. The National debt stood at about 10 trillion when Obama took office and about 19 trillion when he left. That's not even remotely disputable.

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You're in your Russian bot mode.  I'll wait 'til you have some content.

Maddog has already given you some content.

Get your dentures round it and give us some commentary

Not even entertaining. See ya. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:09 pm

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Soz, I didn't draw a graph.  I just lived it.

Fake news doesn't cut it.

I lived it too. Unlike you I posted information to back up what every American should sorta know. The National debt stood at about 10 trillion when Obama took office and about 19 trillion when he left. That's not even remotely disputable.  

You sure you don't work with Trump? He makes up stuff too.

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