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PETER HITCHENS: Our new national curriculum? Brainwashing and propaganda

Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:26 am

Our education system teaches the young what to think, not how to think. And if you ever wonder why so many things don’t work properly any more, or why you can’t get any sense out of so many organisations, this is one of the main reasons.

But it’s also getting harder and harder to think or say certain things. This week I experienced this mixture of brainwashing and propaganda at two different ends of the system.

I was sent a rather sinister questionnaire given to new arrivals at a secondary school I won’t name.
And I was the target of a bizarre and rather sad counter-demonstration at one of Oxford’s most exalted colleges. They are, in a way, connected.

The questionnaire is part of what has now become PSHCE, Personal, Social, Health and Citizenship Education. It is not anonymous, but it seeks, in a slippery sideways manner, to discover what the children involved think about immigration.

The cleverest question as ks 11-year-olds to say why they think there is a shortage of jobs for younger people. One answer on the multiple-choice form is ‘competition from international applicants’.

They are asked to agree or disagree with such statements as ‘I like to be around people from other countries’ and ‘meeting students from other countries is interesting’. They are also invited to say how much they agree or disagree with the statement ‘immigration is bad for the country’.

They are asked if they have close friends from different countries, and how they would speak to a person whose first language isn’t English. And they are asked if immigrants should have the same rights as everyone else, whether they should be encouraged to speak the language of this country or encouraged to continue in their own traditions.

Well, I agree very strongly with the parent who sent this to me because she thought it was sinister probing into the minds of children, and also into her own opinions, none of the business of the school or the State.
Might some little symbol be placed against the name of any pupil who answered in the wrong way? Might it affect that pupil’s future and the attitude of the school towards the parents? If not, what is the educational purpose of this?

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More to read on the article.

I rightly agree that Far Right Ideologies are a massive concern, but now I see the Far left as a bigger threat.

Both extreme groups have oppressed millions in history and sadly people think Karl Marx was a saint.

No he was not. He was racist and the closest aspect of his socialism in history. Was Pol Pots regeme and fuckwit lefties never learn from that.

You cannot make people equal, as they are individuals. You ensure they have equality under the law. Not force that they be something they are not, equal. I could never hope to win the 100m sprint. Do I now deny those who work hard to obtain this goal, because some snowflakes are bitter that others succeed?

The reality is, not many people thought a loon like Trump would gain power and now the left fall over backwards for someome loony on the British left. Corbyn

How people are certainly sheep

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:49 am



Peter Hitchens is a far-right racist dick...

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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:08 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Peter Hitchens is a far-right racist dick...


So apparantly, according to wolf. Liberal values are Far Right.

scratch

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:42 am

Arrow

Some of those libertarians are quite picky about what "liberal" values they choose to ascribe to...

His choice of words in that quote  above there is rar from what I would regard as genuinely "liberal"..

These days,  anyone to the left of Ghenghis Khan is regularly being labelled as 'liberal'/socialist/"commie" by the alt.right media.

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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:45 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Arrow

Some of those libertarians are quite picky about what "liberal" values they choose to ascribe to...

His choice of words in that quote  above there is rar frim what I would regard as genuinely "liberal"..

These days,  anyone to the left of Ghenghis Khan is regularly being labelled as 'liberal'/socialist/"commie" by the alt.right media.

So basically you have no bases for your claim, as you just slander anyone Far Right, who is right of Stalin to you.

Nobody called you a commie and yet you labelled him as a far right racist, based on no foundation.

The irony

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:55 am

I agree on concerns about the survey, quite inappropriate to be asking kids about those issues.

But how did that become a rant about Marx?

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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:57 am

Eilzel wrote:I agree on concerns about the survey, quite inappropriate to be asking kids about those issues.

But how did that become a rant about Marx?


Well what is the most perfect example of Marx ideology?

The Khmer Rouge.

The most perfect example of trying to make people who are individually different, to be equal.

Everyone should have equality under the law, not force people to be the same.


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:55 pm

This questionnaire is sinister.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:59 pm

Didge wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Arrow

Some of those libertarians are quite picky about what "liberal" values they choose to ascribe to...

His choice of words in that quote  above there is rar frim what I would regard as genuinely "liberal"..

These days,  anyone to the left of Ghenghis Khan is regularly being labelled as 'liberal'/socialist/"commie" by the alt.right media.

So basically you have no bases for your claim, as you just slander anyone Far Right, who is right of Stalin to you.

Nobody called you a commie and yet you labelled him as a far right racist, based on no foundation.

The irony

Arrow

Plenty of foundation and justification there, Doddery Dodge...

I've seen the quotes and videos from him that you have put up, now and earlier.

His views are right wing;  therfore I consider him to be right wing..

Being "liberal" doesn't always make somebody "left wing" --  in fact, if you had been up to date with modern political fashions, you would know that the "Liberal" political parties, as with those in Australia, New Zealand and Canada,  are actually centre-right parties, covering the same ground as Theresa May's Tories in the UK and Angela Merkle's mob in Germany..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism


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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:01 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Didge wrote:

So basically you have no bases for your claim, as you just slander anyone Far Right, who is right of Stalin to you.

Nobody called you a commie and yet you labelled him as a far right racist, based on no foundation.

The irony


Plenty of foundation and justification there, Doddery Dodge...

I've seen the quotes and videos from him that you have put up, now and earlier.

His views are right wing;  therfore I consider him to be right wing..

Being "liberal" doesn't always make somebody "left wing" --  in fact, if you had been up to date with modern political fashions, you would know that the "Liberal" political parties, as with those in Australia, New Zealand and Canada,  are actually centre-right parties, covering the same ground as Theresa May's Tories in the UK and Angela Merkle's mob in Germany..

So hearsay

Nothing you can back up

So last chance, back up your claim?

We both know you are talking bullshit

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:18 pm



Read the links in my last post, Dodge...

You're the one spouting bullshit..

You keep on referring to obvious conservatives as "left wingers".

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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:20 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Read the links in my last post, Dodge...

You're the one spouting bullshit..

You keep on referring to obvious conservatives as "left wingers".

So now you are attention seeking like smelly

What links?

You made claims

Back them up.

Quite simple really

In your own time

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Post by Didge on Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:22 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Didge wrote:

So basically you have no bases for your claim, as you just slander anyone Far Right, who is right of Stalin to you.

Nobody called you a commie and yet you labelled him as a far right racist, based on no foundation.

The irony

Arrow

Plenty of foundation and justification there, Doddery Dodge...

I've seen the quotes and videos from him that you have put up, now and earlier.

His views are right wing;  therfore I consider him to be right wing..

Being "liberal" doesn't always make somebody "left wing" --  in fact, if you had been up to date with modern political fashions, you would know that the "Liberal" political parties, as with those in Australia, New Zealand and Canada,  are actually centre-right parties, covering the same ground as Theresa May's Tories in the UK and Angela Merkle's mob in Germany..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

That is your evidence for your slander?



Please show me what political views back your claims?

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