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Do not refer to female pupils as 'girls' or 'ladies' because it 'reminds them of their gender', headteachers told

Post by Didge on Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:44 pm

Teachers should not refer to pupils as “girls" or "ladies” because it means they are “constantly reminded of their gender”, the Government’s former mental health tsar has said.

Natasha Devon told headteachers of the country’s leading girls’ schools that they should be using gender-neutral language when they address their students, and added that the same applied for boys.

Speaking at the Girls’ School Association’s annual conference in Manchester, she said that she would “never walk into a room in an-all girls’ school and say girls or ladies” because it was “patronising”.

She added: “I don’t think it is useful to be constantly reminded of your gender all the time and all the stereotypes that go with it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/11/21/do-not-refer-female-pupils-girls-ladies-reminds-gender-head/

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Post by magica on Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

Ffs they want us all to be the same, what's frightening is they are allowed to get a way with it.

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Post by Syl on Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:57 pm

I said it somewhere else on here...I can see the future in this country where it will be a crime to call anyone male or female.
Its bloody ridiculous. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Maddog on Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:10 pm

Help me baby Jesus.

I say ma'am or sir a dozen times a day, even to kids. I think it's far more polite than saying "hey you".

But i'm a reprobate that drags my knuckles. Laughing

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Post by Vintage on Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:42 pm

I tend to know everyday whether I'm male or female without being reminded. I don't think people should be lumped together, what should happen is that boys and girls and anyone else should be reminded that everyone can achieve anything given the ability and if prepared to work for it.
Do we say hello humans/homo sapiens, maybe comrade, siblings because you can't say sisters or brothers, citizens
student sounds a bit robotic when speaking to people you are familiar with. I'm all for inclusion but why are the majority put out all the time. I don't want to be an homogeanous sex, ethnicity, nationality or any other ity - vive la differenc I say. People are all on about wanting diversity now we are being asked to become almost non entities in so many ways.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:11 pm

left wing hive mind uniformity I'm afraid......they want everyone to be "equal"

aka little grey "persons" in little grey boxes doing little grey jobs to earn little grey wages to buy more little grey goods and only thinking little grey thoughts.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:18 pm

Natasha Devon is a twat!



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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:18 am

Lord Foul wrote:
left wing hive mind uniformity I'm afraid......they want everyone to be "equal"

aka little grey "persons" in little grey boxes doing little grey jobs to earn little grey wages to buy more little grey goods and only thinking little grey thoughts.

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Where does that "left wing" description come from, Victor ???

Right wing and anarchist groups have "hive mind" idealogues as well..

As clearly demonstrated with your current far-right Tory Party in charge over there.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:57 am

The Liberal agenda of society wide child abuse.

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Post by nicko on Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:04 pm

Boys are Boys, and Girls are Girls, what stupid fuckers are trying to change it. I DESPAIR OF THESE IDIOT PC people
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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:18 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:

The Liberal agenda of society wide child abuse.

Rolling Eyes

The conservative British "establishment" has been facilitating, encouraging and protecting paedophiles and institutionalised child abuse over decades :

Viscount William Slim
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Stolen and exported children during World War Two..

The British "establishment" fostered and profited from child labour right up to the early 20th Century..

Britain encouraged child slavery in the Americas, African colonies, and India..


By Smelly's reckoning, Queen Victoria and Queen Lizzie II, Winston Churchill and Maggie Thatcher, should all be considered as "left wing" "liberals" pushing their "agenda of society wide child abuse"...

You silly dumbfuck, Smelly'..

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Maddog wrote:Help me baby Jesus.

I say ma'am or sir a dozen times a day, even to kids. I think it's far more polite than saying "hey you".

But i'm a reprobate that drags my knuckles. Laughing

I agree, MD.  I got into the habit early of saying 'ma'am' and 'sir' and never broke the habit.  But people say it alienates them.  They say it puts distance between the two of you.  Should we go the other way and squeeze body parts as a manner of greeting?  Distance is also respect.

If one wants to get over the alienation, break the ice yourself.  Respect doesn't preclude a closer friendship.

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Post by nicko on Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:37 pm

Hello Wolfie, we wont mention the Rapes and disgusting treatment, [slavery] carried out by Australian people to some of the British children sent to your country. Don't say it never happened because it did and has been proven !
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:46 pm

nicko wrote:Hello Wolfie,  we wont mention the Rapes and disgusting treatment,  [slavery]  carried out by Australian people to some of the British children sent to your country.    Don't say it never happened because it did and has been proven !

That was the British, no? It all happened before Australia became an independent nation, in 1901...when the British were in charge. Since then, Australia's been a model of elegance and propriety.

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Post by HoratioTarr on Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:04 pm

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nicko wrote:Hello Wolfie,  we wont mention the Rapes and disgusting treatment,  [slavery]  carried out by Australian people to some of the British children sent to your country.    Don't say it never happened because it did and has been proven !

That was the British, no?  It all happened before Australia became an independent nation, in 1901...when the British were in charge.  Since then, Australia's been a model of elegance and propriety.


https://independentaustralia.net/australia/australia-display/australias-assimilation-shame-still-stealing-indigenous-children,6570







THE TAPE IS SEARING. There is the voice of an infant screaming as he is wrenched from his mother, who pleads:

"There is nothing wrong with my baby. Why are you doing this to us? I would've been hung years ago, wouldn't I? Because [as an Australian Aborigine] you're guilty before you're found innocent."


The child's grandmother demands to know why

"... the stealing of our kids is happening all over again."


A welfare official says:

"I'm gunna take him, mate."


This happened to an Aboriginal family in outback New South Wales. It is happening across Australia in a scandalous and largely unrecognised abuse of human rights that evokes the infamous Stolen Generation of the last century.
When, in 2008. Prime Minister Kevin Rudd apologised for the Stolen Generation, he added:

"I want to be blunt about this. There will be no compensation."


The Sydney Morning Herald congratulated Rudd on a 'shrewd manoeuvre' that

'... cleared away a piece of political wreckage that responds to some of its supporters' emotional needs, but changes nothing.'


Today, the theft of Aboriginal children – including babies taken from the birth table – is now more widespread than at any time during the last century.
As of June last year, almost 14,000 Aboriginal children had been 'removed'. This is five times the number when 'Bringing Them Home' was written. More than a third of all removed children are Aboriginal — from 3% of the population. At the present rate, this mass removal of Aboriginal children will result in a stolen generation of more than 3,300 children in the Northern Territory alone.
Pat (not her real name) is the mother whose anguish was secretly recorded on a phone as four Department of Child Services officials and six police descended on her home.
On the tape, an official claims they have come only for an "assessment". But two of the police officers, who knew Pat, told her they saw no risk to her child and warned her to "get out of here quick". Pat fled, cradling her infant, but the one-year-old was eventually seized without her knowing why. The next morning a police officer returned to apologise to her and said her baby should never have been taken away. Pat has no idea where her son is.
Once, she was "invited" by officials to bring her children to "neutral" offices to discuss a "care plan". The doors were locked and officials seized the children, with one of the youngest dragging on a police officer's gun belt. Many Indigenous mothers are unaware of their legal rights. A secretive Children's Court has become notorious for rubber-stamping removals.
Most Aboriginal families live on the edge. Their life expectancy in towns a short flight from Sydney is as low as 37. Dickensian diseases are rife; Australia is the only developed country not to have eradicated trachoma, which blinds Aboriginal children.
Pat has both complied with and struggled bravely against a punitive bureaucracy that can remove children on hearsay. She has twice been acquitted of false charges, including "kidnapping" her own children. A psychologist has described her as a capable and good mother.
Josie Crawshaw, the former director of a respected families' support organisation in Darwin, told me:

"In remote areas, officials will go in with a plane in the early hours and fly the child thousands of kilometres from their community. There'll be no explanation, no support, and the child may be gone forever."


In 2012, the Co-ordinator-General of Remote Services for the Northern Territory, Olga Havnen, was sacked when she revealed that almost $80m was spent on the surveillance and removal of Aboriginal children compared with only $500,000 on supporting the same impoverished families.
She told me:

"The primary reasons for removing children are welfare issues directly related to poverty and inequality. The impact on families is just horrendous because if they are not reunited within six months, it's likely they won't see each other again. If South Africa was doing this, there'd be an international outcry."


A Department of Families and Community Services spokesman said that the majority of removed Indigenous children in New South Wales were placed with Indigenous carers. According to Indigenous support networks, this is a smokescreen; it does not mean families and is control by divisiveness that is the bureaucracy's real achievement.
I met a group of Aboriginal grandmothers, all survivors of the first stolen generation, all now with stolen grandchildren. "We live in a state of fear, again," they said.
David Shoebridge, a State Greens MP told me:
"The truth is, there is a market among whites for these kids, especially babies."
The New South Wales parliament is soon to debate legislation that introduces forced adoption and "guardianship". Children under two will be liable – without the mother's consent – if "removed" for more than six months.
For many Aboriginal mothers, like Pat, it can take six months merely to make contact with their children. "It's setting up Aboriginal families to fail," said Shoebridge.
I asked Josie Crawshaw why:
"The wilful ignorance in Australia about its first people has now become the kind of intolerance that gets to the point where you can smash an entire group of humanity and there is no fuss."

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Post by nicko on Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:58 pm

Wolfie prefers to ignore this !
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Post by Syl on Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:01 pm

nicko wrote:Boys are Boys, and Girls are Girls,    what stupid fuckers are trying to change it.  I DESPAIR OF THESE IDIOT PC people

The world has gone bloody mad...(or is it just this country?) Rolling Eyes

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