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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:11 pm

Lone wolf’: Our stunning double standard when it comes to race and religion.

In what police call the deadliest attack in modern American history, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on concertgoers at a country music festival in Las Vegas on Sunday.

Despite the scale of the attack and Paddock’s being armed with more than 10 rifles, Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo immediately dismissed any ties to terrorism, classifying Paddock, a white male from a rural town 80 miles from Las Vegas, as a “local individual” and a “lone wolf.

The Las Vegas shooting raises several questions linked to race and religion and how they figure into our imagining and policing of terrorism. President Trump has ushered in the third phase of the war on terror, and his brazen “clash of civilization” rhetoric around U.S. anti-terrorism policy and programming has fixated on Muslims.

Trump continues to carry forward counter-radicalization policing — the signature anti-terrorism program installed by former president Barack Obama — which seeks to identify and arrest “homegrown” Muslim radicals. Like Paddock, Dylann Roof, who killed nine churchgoers in Charleston, S.C., in 2015, was described as a “lone wolf.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/10/02/lone-wolf-our-stunning-double-standard-when-it-comes-to-race-and-religion/?utm_term=.a37f6b331bcc







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Post by Syl on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:40 pm

It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:46 pm

Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

Exactly Syl.
It’s astonishing how the media are so biased.

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Post by Syl on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:57 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

Exactly Syl.
It’s astonishing how the media are so biased.

They are, and the media are probably the most influential body any country has.

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:04 pm

Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

What would his political aim be though?
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Post by Syl on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:14 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

What would his political aim be though?

I don't think that's clear right now, maybe he had mental problems like his father had.
He must have had some twisted reason whether that be political or just a grudge......no one creates havoc like this for no reason.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:16 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

What would his political aim be though?
this is where I have a problem with the definition of terrorist

whilst the fundamentalist (of any complexion) generally has a "cause" or an "ideology" to which he/she is bound and in general that "prime cause" is shared with a least a small number of others, this guy so far appears to be plain and simple a "sociopath" of some sort (now granted ANY terrorist is obviously definable as a sociopath...you would have to be to indiscriminately cause mass murder (note quill the exingencies of self defense excepted)

AFAIK he doesnt appear to have connections with or be representing ANY group or ideology (except perhaps a personal warped agenda, which doesnt count)
so in that sense he IS a lone gunman (and "just" a nutter) these isis bods however DO represent a twisted ideology in the main, thats not to say that a few of them may NOT particularly belive in the ideolgy and they too are mere nut jobs, but in the overwhelming majority of cases these types are dedicated "soldiers" doing what they do in the furtherence of a "prime cause"..in the case of isis "the caliphate"

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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:17 pm

Syl wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:

What would his political aim be though?

I don't think that's clear right now, maybe he has mental problems like his father had.
He must have had some twisted reason whether that be political or just a grudge......no one creates havoc like this for no reason.
I think mental problems is likely. What political aim though ? He hasn't stated one or given publicity to one.
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Post by Miffs2 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:19 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:

What would his political aim be though?
this is where I have a problem with the definition of terrorist

whilst the fundamentalist (of any complexion) generally has a "cause" or an "ideology" to which he/she is bound and in general that "prime cause" is shared with a least a small number of others, this guy so far appears to be plain and simple a "sociopath" of some sort (now granted ANY terrorist is obviously definable as a sociopath...you would have to be to indiscriminately cause mass murder (note quill the exingencies of self defense excepted)

AFAIK he doesnt appear to have connections with or be representing ANY group or ideology (except perhaps a personal warped agenda, which doesnt count)
so in that sense he IS a lone gunman (and "just" a nutter) these isis bods however DO represent a twisted ideology in the main, thats not to say that a few of them may NOT particularly belive in the ideolgy and they too are mere nut jobs, but in the overwhelming majority of cases these types are dedicated "soldiers" doing what they do in the furtherence of a "prime cause"..in the case of isis "the caliphate"

He doesn't appear to represent anyone or have a political aim. Where's islams terrorists want us all dead.
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Post by Guest on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:20 pm

He has mental problems the same as the other terrorists do .

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Post by Syl on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:26 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:
this is where I have a problem with the definition of terrorist

whilst the fundamentalist (of any complexion) generally has a "cause" or an "ideology" to which he/she is bound and in general that "prime cause" is shared with a least a small number of others, this guy so far appears to be plain and simple a "sociopath" of some sort (now granted ANY terrorist is obviously definable as a sociopath...you would have to be to indiscriminately cause mass murder (note quill the exingencies of self defense excepted)

AFAIK he doesnt appear to have connections with or be representing ANY group or ideology (except perhaps a personal warped agenda, which doesnt count)
so in that sense he IS a lone gunman (and "just" a nutter) these isis bods however DO represent a twisted ideology in the main, thats not to say that a few of them may NOT particularly belive in the ideolgy and they too are mere nut jobs, but in the overwhelming majority of cases these types are dedicated "soldiers" doing what they do in the furtherence of a "prime cause"..in the case of isis "the caliphate"

He doesn't appear to represent anyone or have a political aim. Where's islams terrorists want us all dead.

Its not that long ago Irish terrorists were doing their best to shoot and blow people up here. Also, when something like this happens the instigator is not picking and choosing who he kills and who lives, for eg Muslims have also been killed in Islamic terrorist attacks?


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:58 pm

Maybe he was a militant 'anti guns' person who wanted to demonstrate how dangerous guns can be in the wrong hands, and as a way to try to get tougher restrictions put in place for gun laws/sales...?



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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe he was a militant 'anti guns' person who wanted to demonstrate how dangerous guns can be in the wrong hands, and as a way to try to get tougher restrictions put in place for gun laws/sales...?



whilst that of course would appear to be a contradiction in terms, this idea had also occured to me....It just seemed a bit "too far out there"

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:46 am

Miffs2 wrote:
Syl wrote:It is double standards....he caused terror, that imo makes it a terrorist attack.

Do you have to work in a group or be a certain colour for it to be called terrorism?

What would his political aim be though?

Idea

He may well not have had a "political" agenda...

In fact, he may turn out to have been no kind of 'political animal', whatsoever..

Maybe in his own warped reality,  he might carry personal grudges against Las Vegas, or maybe country music or music concerts, or the world at large  ?

Just a shame that he didn't shoot himself first..

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:19 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:

What would his political aim be though?
this is where I have a problem with the definition of terrorist

whilst the fundamentalist (of any complexion) generally has a "cause" or an "ideology" to which he/she is bound and in general that "prime cause" is shared with a least a small number of others, this guy so far appears to be plain and simple a "sociopath" of some sort (now granted ANY terrorist is obviously definable as a sociopath...you would have to be to indiscriminately cause mass murder (note quill the exingencies of self defense excepted)

AFAIK he doesnt appear to have connections with or be representing ANY group or ideology (except perhaps a personal warped agenda, which doesnt count)
so in that sense he IS a lone gunman (and "just" a nutter) these isis bods however DO represent a twisted ideology in the main, thats not to say that a few of them may NOT particularly belive in the ideolgy and they too are mere nut jobs, but in the overwhelming majority of cases these types are dedicated "soldiers" doing what they do in the furtherence of a "prime cause"..in the case of isis "the caliphate"

I think you are reading into both sides, too much intellectual baggage.  Ideologies are tribal.  You don't need a general cause or theme.  You don't even need logical purity.  Conservatives are attracted by the pull of the past: old-school stasis; leftys are responding to problems in society, and are attracted to new answers.  As events unfold, they sort out the positions in what they call issues and policies.

Terrorism is a tactic, not a party or an ideology.  Terrorism is use of anything to cause terror, because it generates and communicates fear.  It is a means...not a thing.  It is pure frustration, calling attention in the worst way to the source of the frustration.  It can as easily be a madman calling attention to his own madness, as it can be an organization (ISIS or the KKK) calling attention to it's agenda.

Whereas violence is used normally directly, to hurt or kill someone, terrorism uses violence in an oblique way, to communicate by demonstrative means an inner rage over something. We get caught up in the causes, but they are of no importance. It is the tactic...a process.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:
this is where I have a problem with the definition of terrorist

whilst the fundamentalist (of any complexion) generally has a "cause" or an "ideology" to which he/she is bound and in general that "prime cause" is shared with a least a small number of others, this guy so far appears to be plain and simple a "sociopath" of some sort (now granted ANY terrorist is obviously definable as a sociopath...you would have to be to indiscriminately cause mass murder (note quill the exingencies of self defense excepted)

AFAIK he doesnt appear to have connections with or be representing ANY group or ideology (except perhaps a personal warped agenda, which doesnt count)
so in that sense he IS a lone gunman (and "just" a nutter) these isis bods however DO represent a twisted ideology in the main, thats not to say that a few of them may NOT particularly belive in the ideolgy and they too are mere nut jobs, but in the overwhelming majority of cases these types are dedicated "soldiers" doing what they do in the furtherence of a "prime cause"..in the case of isis "the caliphate"

I think you are reading into both sides, too much intellectual baggage.  Ideologies are tribal.  You don't need a general cause or theme.  You don't even need logical purity.  Conservatives are attracted by the pull of the past: old-school stasis; leftys are responding to problems in society, and are attracted to new answers.  As events unfold, they sort out the positions in what they call issues and policies.

Terrorism is a tactic, not a party or an ideology.  Terrorism is use of anything to cause terror, because it generates and communicates fear.  It is a means...not a thing.  It is pure frustration, calling attention in the worst way to the source of the frustration.  It can as easily be a madman calling attention to his own madness, as it can be an organization (ISIS or the KKK) calling attention to it's agenda.

Whereas violence is used normally directly, to hurt or kill someone, terrorism uses violence in an oblique way, to communicate by demonstrative means an inner rage over something.  We get caught up in the causes, but they are of no importance.  It is the tactic...a process.

Nonsense, terrorism isn't an outlet for some Inner rage

Terrorism is the methodology used by ideological movements to to achieve their clearly stated objectives.

They target the civilian population to deliberately damage the public psyche, break their resolve and sow desperation and fear.

This in turn places pressure on the government in order to force them to reassess their policy on whatever issue said ideological group is looking to change.

Like Hitler burning down the Reichstag building, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vegas attack was set up by Clinton and the anti gun lobby, who are already calling for changes to gun laws.

Paddock like Lee harvey oswald is nothing but a patsy, both men killed before they could tell their secrets, he will be forgotten in the push for gun controls


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I think you are reading into both sides, too much intellectual baggage.  Ideologies are tribal.  You don't need a general cause or theme.  You don't even need logical purity.  Conservatives are attracted by the pull of the past: old-school stasis; leftys are responding to problems in society, and are attracted to new answers.  As events unfold, they sort out the positions in what they call issues and policies.

Terrorism is a tactic, not a party or an ideology.  Terrorism is use of anything to cause terror, because it generates and communicates fear.  It is a means...not a thing.  It is pure frustration, calling attention in the worst way to the source of the frustration.  It can as easily be a madman calling attention to his own madness, as it can be an organization (ISIS or the KKK) calling attention to it's agenda.

Whereas violence is used normally directly, to hurt or kill someone, terrorism uses violence in an oblique way, to communicate by demonstrative means an inner rage over something.  We get caught up in the causes, but they are of no importance.  It is the tactic...a process.

Nonsense, terrorism isn't an outlet for some Inner rage

Terrorism is the methodology used by ideological movements to to achieve their clearly stated objectives.

They target the civilian population to deliberately damage the public psyche, break their resolve and sow desperation and fear.

This in turn places pressure on the government in order to force them to reassess their policy on whatever issue said ideological group is looking to change.

Like Hitler burning down the Reichstag building, I wouldn't be surprised if the Vegas attack was set up by Clinton and the anti gun lobby, who are already calling for changes to gun laws.

Paddock like Lee harvey oswald is nothing but a patsy, both men killed before they could tell their secrets, he will be forgotten in the push for gun controls

Bullshit. Terrorism can be done by anyone with a hair up his ass. "Ideological movements" is code for having a hair up your ass.

In fact, there is no such thing as an ideological movement...there are just tribes, with a few loosely conceived ideas, none having any internal consistency with others.

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:26 pm

I think I begin to see your point Quill.
One could immagine a guy who has been treated wrongly by "society" and, burning with revenge decides to "punish society" by a string of atrocities, involving both citizens and infrastructure (i.e. economic terrorism) whilst having no particular agenda and making no demands, indeed not even communicating with that society. That would certainly be "terrorism, but without any particular "ideological motive" There would be no political or religious basis for it, nor would there be any "negotiation" possible.


Hmm let me think on this

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Lord Foul wrote:I think I begin to see your point Quill.
One could immagine a guy who has been treated wrongly by "society" and, burning with revenge decides to "punish society" by a string of atrocities, involving both citizens and infrastructure (i.e. economic terrorism) whilst having no particular agenda and making no demands, indeed not even communicating with that society. That would certainly be "terrorism, but without any particular "ideological motive" There would be no political or religious basis for it, nor would there be any "negotiation" possible.

Hmm let me think on this

Xactly.

Not that there can't be a more sophisticated superstructure to the ideology, but that is all excess baggage to the idea of terrorism. The two are separate.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:35 pm

Suspect

Forget the 'Illuminati', the Masons and the KKK working in cahoots...

Personally,
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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:45 pm

there are reports this nut job is moslem and isis have claimed responsibility

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:51 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:there are reports this nut job is moslem and isis have claimed responsibility

Probably out of the Fake News factory in St. Petersburg. This is a guy with christian ethical standards, who decided to kill a lot of people.

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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:10 pm

It will hopefully become clearer when his girlfriend is interviewed.

My guess is he held a grudge against something or someone, it could have beenpolitical, or the casinos, or just a perceived insult that grew and festered, couple this with a mental disorder, and wham.....he is off.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:14 pm

'... a woman reportedly screamed “you’re all going to die” at a Las Vegas concert crowd minutes before the mass shooting...'


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4592774/las-vegas-shooting-marilou-danley-with-stephen-paddock/



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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:17 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:'... a woman reportedly screamed “you’re all going to die” at a Las Vegas concert crowd minutes before the mass shooting...'

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4592774/las-vegas-shooting-marilou-danley-with-stephen-paddock/

Most likely after the start of the shooting...and she would be correct.

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Post by Cass on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:17 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:'... a woman reportedly screamed “you’re all going to die” at a Las Vegas concert crowd minutes before the mass shooting...'


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4592774/las-vegas-shooting-marilou-danley-with-stephen-paddock/



Proven false Rumor started by some twisted sick f*** Who wanted 15 minutes of fame.


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Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:20 pm

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:there are reports this nut job is moslem and isis have claimed responsibility

Probably out of the Fake News factory in St. Petersburg.    This is a guy with christian ethical standards, who decided to kill a lot of people.

ISIS claim him as their own, which makes this an Islamic terrorist attack

Another one

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:24 pm

Syl wrote:It will hopefully become clearer when his girlfriend is interviewed.

My guess is he held a grudge against something or someone, it could have beenpolitical, or the casinos, or just a perceived insult that grew and festered, couple this with a mental disorder, and wham.....he is off.

Early reports out of the FBI's interview of her indicate (so far) she knows nothing of the details, but that he had been acting bizarrely, and seemed to be going 'crazy'.  Her trip home was apparently a spot decision, of which she knew nothing.  He just said he got a good ticket, and she went.  Looks like he wanted her out of the way.  She had to have noticed all the guns.  We'll see...

But of course she probably is being careful to steer herself clear of any legal entanglements, having seen how they went after Noor Salman, the wife of the Orlando shooter.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:26 pm

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Syl wrote:It will hopefully become clearer when his girlfriend is interviewed.

My guess is he held a grudge against something or someone, it could have beenpolitical, or the casinos, or just a perceived insult that grew and festered, couple this with a mental disorder, and wham.....he is off.

Early reports out of the FBI's interview of her indicate (so far) she knows nothing of the details, but that he had been acting bizarrely, and seemed to be going 'crazy'.  Her trip home was apparently a spot decision, of which she knew nothing.  He just said he got a good ticket, and she went.  Looks like he wanted her out of the way.  She had to have noticed all the guns.  We'll see...

But of course she probably is being careful to steer herself clear of any legal entanglements, having seen how they went after Noor Salman, the wife of the Orlando shooter.

Did she mention him getting into his bible more often than usual??

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:27 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
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Probably out of the Fake News factory in St. Petersburg.    This is a guy with christian ethical standards, who decided to kill a lot of people.

ISIS claim him as their own, which makes this an Islamic terrorist attack

Another one

Authorities determined that was Fake News...probably out of your hometown, St. Petersburg, Ruski.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:29 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Early reports out of the FBI's interview of her indicate (so far) she knows nothing of the details, but that he had been acting bizarrely, and seemed to be going 'crazy'.  Her trip home was apparently a spot decision, of which she knew nothing.  He just said he got a good ticket, and she went.  Looks like he wanted her out of the way.  She had to have noticed all the guns.  We'll see...

But of course she probably is being careful to steer herself clear of any legal entanglements, having seen how they went after Noor Salman, the wife of the Orlando shooter.

Did she mention him getting into his bible more often than usual??

Maybe. I don't know. Why, was it written in Cryllic? Perhaps he was GRU?

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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:36 pm

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Syl wrote:It will hopefully become clearer when his girlfriend is interviewed.

My guess is he held a grudge against something or someone, it could have beenpolitical, or the casinos, or just a perceived insult that grew and festered, couple this with a mental disorder, and wham.....he is off.

Early reports out of the FBI's interview of her indicate (so far) she knows nothing of the details, but that he had been acting bizarrely, and seemed to be going 'crazy'.  Her trip home was apparently a spot decision, of which she knew nothing.  He just said he got a good ticket, and she went.  Looks like he wanted her out of the way.  She had to have noticed all the guns.  We'll see...

But of course she probably is being careful to steer herself clear of any legal entanglements, having seen how they went after Noor Salman, the wife of the Orlando shooter.

I read he used her name to book into the hotel.

I wonder if he was a Robbie Williams fan, a song of his is eerily similar to what happened.

The lyrics write about him and his monkey travel to Vegas, book into the Mandalay Bay hotel. Get a room on the 33rd floor (one flour out) he writes about the gun and having 10 itchy fingers.
the chorus goes....
Me and my monkey
With a dream and a gun
I'm hoping my monkey don't point that gun at anyone
Me and my monkey
Like Butch and the Sundance Kid
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:49 pm

Interesting. And I always thought Robin Williams was a comedian, who died masturbating in a closet with a rope around his neck.

I can't say I get the Butch and Sundance reference, but the rest of the chorus could be a template for the actions taken by Paddock.

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Re: Double standards!

Post by eddie on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:Interesting.  And I always thought Robin Williams was a comedian, who died masturbating in a closet with a rope around his neck.

I can't say I get the Butch and Sundance reference, but the rest of the chorus could be a template for the actions taken by Paddock.

Robbie Williams - is a singer - that's who Syl was referencing.


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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:56 pm

Original Quill wrote:Interesting.  And I always thought Robin Williams was a comedian, who died masturbating in a closet with a rope around his neck.

I can't say I get the Butch and Sundance reference, but the rest of the chorus could be a template for the actions taken by Paddock.

Robbie not Robin. Laughing

Its a weird song, I wonder if the shooter ever heard it and got a few ideas?

Robbie Williams Lyrics

"Me And My Monkey"

There was me and my monkey
And with his dungarees and roller blades smoking filter tips
Reclining in the passenger seat of my super-charged jet black Chevrolet
He had the soft-top down (he liked the wind in his face)
He said 'Son, you ever been to Vegas?' I said 'no'
He said 'that's where we're gonna go - you need a change of pace'
And we hit the strip with all the wedding chapels and the neon signs
He said 'I left my wallet in El Segondo' and proceeded to take two grand of mine
We made tracks to The Mandalay Bay Hotel
Asked the bell boy if he'd take me and my monkey as well?
He looked in the passenger seat of my car and with a smile he said
'If your monkey's got that kind of money sir, then we've got a monkey bed!'

Me and my monkey
With a dream and a gun
I'm hoping my monkey don't point that gun at anyone
Me and my monkey
Like Butch and the Sundance Kid
Trying to understand why he did what he did
Why he did what he did

We got the elevator, I hit the 33rd floor
We had a room up top with the panoramic views like nothing you'd ever seen before
He went to sleep in the bidet and when he awoke
He ran his little monkey fingers through yellow pages
Called up some escort services and ordered some okey doke
Forty minutes later there came a knock at the door
In walked this big bad ass baboon into my bedroom with three monkey whores
'Hi! My name is Sunshine - these are my girls
Lace my palm with silver baby and oh yeah, they'll rock your world'
So I watched pay-per-view and polished my shoes and my gun
Was diggin' old Kurt Cobain singing 'bout lithium
There came a knock at the door and in walked Sunshine
'What's up? You'd better get your ass in here boy, your monkey's having too much of a good
time!'

Me and my monkey
Drove in search of the sun
Me and my monkey
Don't point that gun at anyone
Me and my monkey
Like Billy The Kid
Trying to understand why he did what he did
Why he did what he did

Got tickets to see Sheena Easton, the monkey was high
Said it was a burning ambition to see her before he died
We left before encores, he couldn't sit still
Sheena was a blast baby but my monkey was ill
We went to play black-jack, kept hitting twenty three
Couldn't help but notice this Mexican just staring at me
Or was it my monkey? I couldn't be sure
It's not like you'd never seen a monkey in rollerblades and dungarees before
Now don't test my patience 'cause we're not about to run
That's a bad ass monkey boy and he's packing a gun
'My name is Rodriguez', he says with death in his eye
'I've been chasing you for a long time amigos, and now your monkey's gonna die!'

Me and my monkey
drove in search of the sun
Now me and my monkey
We don't wanna kill no mexican
But we've got ten itchy fingers
and one thing to declare
When the monkey is high
you do not stare, you do not stare
you do not stare...

Looks like we've got ourselves a mexican standoff here boy
huh...
And I ain't about to run
Put your gun down, boy
huh huh...
How did I get mixed up with this fucking monkey anyhow?






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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:03 pm

Very strange. Could be...but how could he predict the concert? Maybe not random?

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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:07 pm

Don't know, and as far as I know Sheena Easton wasn't performing either.

Who knows how a nutters mind works though Quill....maybe snatches from one song, bits from real life conversations, grudges, all rolled up in a twisted mind/

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:12 pm

Syl wrote:Don't know, and as far as I know Sheena Easton wasn't performing either.

Who knows how a nutters mind works though Quill....maybe snatches from one song, bits from real life conversations, grudges, all rolled up in a twisted mind/

Well songs are meant to recall memories and provoke moods.  So it's hardly a mystery if he modeled his actions after a song.

And a person going crazy might be expected to live in a metaphor world even more so.  Or more importantly, he might be lacking in impulse control.  If he was feeling a hurt, and wanted to respond in kind, it's the kind of thing an unbalanced person might do.

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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:Don't know, and as far as I know Sheena Easton wasn't performing either.

Who knows how a nutters mind works though Quill....maybe snatches from one song, bits from real life conversations, grudges, all rolled up in a twisted mind/

Well songs are meant to recall memories and provoke moods.  So it's hardly a mystery if he modeled his actions after a song.

And a person going crazy might be expected to live in a metaphor world even more so.  Or more importantly, he might be lacking in impulse restraint.  If he was feeling a hurt, and wanted to respond in kind, it's the kind of thing an unbalanced person might do.

Well he isn't in any position to explain anything, his gf may have clues, and maybe his music collection would be interesting to see.


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Very interesting thesis.

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Post by Syl on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:57 pm

Original Quill wrote:Very interesting thesis.

Just musings really, whatever spurred him on, if he acted alone, wont help the people who died and the hundreds of people he has left with ruined lives.

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Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Very interesting thesis.

Just musings really, whatever spurred him on, if he acted alone, wont help the people who died and the hundreds of people he has left with ruined lives.

I know. Since we've talked, I been out. Everyone is talking about this.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:20 am

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there are reports this nut job is moslem and isis have claimed responsibility

Rolling Eyes

there are reports you VoD are a bigotted twat and illuminati have claimed responsibility

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Probably out of the Fake News factory in St. Petersburg.    This is a guy with christian ethical standards, who decided to kill a lot of people.


ISIS claim him as their own, which makes this an Islamic terrorist attack

Another one


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Can't let your lying bigotted propaganda efforts go, can you SmellyBumster !?!

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

ISIS claim him as their own, which makes this an Islamic terrorist attack

Another one


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Can't let your lying bigotted propaganda efforts go,  can you SmellyBumster  !?!

He cant let it go. He's under orders to rehabilitate any Russo Fake News that is attacked or denied. Orders from Putin.

If he ignores orders, he may be pushed off a hotel balcony or some other mishap.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:28 am

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

ISIS claim him as their own, which makes this an Islamic terrorist attack

Another one


Razz

Can't let your lying bigotted propaganda efforts go,  can you SmellyBumster  !?!

He cant let it go.  He's under orders to rehabilitate any Russo Fake News that is attacked or denied.  Orders from Putin.  

If he ignores orders, he may be pushed off a hotel balcony or some other mishap.

he can't let us know how weak his ISIS gang really is and all his recruiting efforts are for nothing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Post by smelly-bandit on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:26 am

veya_victaous wrote:
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He cant let it go.  He's under orders to rehabilitate any Russo Fake News that is attacked or denied.  Orders from Putin.  

If he ignores orders, he may be pushed off a hotel balcony or some other mishap.

he can't let us know how weak his ISIS gang really is and all his recruiting efforts are for nothing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Early reports out of the FBI's interview of her indicate (so far) she knows nothing of the details, but that he had been acting bizarrely, and seemed to be going 'crazy'.  Her trip home was apparently a spot decision, of which she knew nothing.  He just said he got a good ticket, and she went.  Looks like he wanted her out of the way.  She had to have noticed all the guns.  We'll see...

But of course she probably is being careful to steer herself clear of any legal entanglements, having seen how they went after Noor Salman, the wife of the Orlando shooter.

I read he used her name to book into the hotel.

I wonder if he was a Robbie Williams fan, a song of his is eerily similar to what happened.

The lyrics write about him and his monkey travel to Vegas, book into the Mandalay Bay hotel. Get a room on the 33rd floor (one flour out) he writes about the gun and having 10 itchy fingers.
the chorus goes....
Me and my monkey
With a dream and a gun
I'm hoping my monkey don't point that gun at anyone
Me and my monkey
Like Butch and the Sundance Kid
Trying to understand why he did what he did
Why he did what he did

Isn't it to do with drugs - monkey on my back?

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