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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:27 am

Yahoo News wrote:TRUMP IS GOING TO RESIGN SOON, PRESIDENT'S 'ART OF THE DEAL' WRITER PREDICTS

BY TIM MARCIN

The guy who helped Fake President Trump write his seminal book, The Art of the Deal, said the former reality-TV star will soon leave the White House on his own accord.

In a series of tweets Wednesday, Tony Schwartz—who co-authored the 1987 book that helped define the real estate magnate's public image—said he thought the walls were closing in on Trump and he would soon leave office in an attempt to save face.

Every tweet Schwartz sent Wednesday was about Trump. "Think of Trump as a toddler w/reactive attachment disorder, and therefore in a permanent virulent tantrum. His development ended at age 7," he posted. He later added, "Remember that every time Trump criticizes and demeans someone he is projecting his deep sense of inadequacy & self-hatred onto others."

Later, he wrote in a series of three tweets that Trump's end would come before the year was out. "The circle is closing at blinding speed. Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice," Schwartztweeted. "Trump's presidency is effectively over. Would be amazed if he survives till end of the year. More likely resigns by fall, if not sooner."

For Americans who don't support Trump—that's a lot of folks, considering the president's approval rating is hovering at about 37 percent—Schwartz warned that they have to keep up the pressure if they want the billionaire to resign. "Trump must be isolated. Resistance every day. The end is near but must keep pressure high," he tweeted.

Schwartz, now the CEO of the Energy Project, has been a critic of Trump as he ascended to the White House and has regularly tried to explain how the president goes about making decisions. In May, Schwartz wrote in The Washington Post that Trump "didn't value—nor even necessarily recognize—the qualities that tend to emerge as people grow more secure, such as empathy, generosity, reflectiveness, the capacity to delay gratification or, above all, a conscience, an inner sense of right and wrong."

Instead, everything for him is transactional and considered a win or a loss. If that is true, it would stand to reason that Trump will desert the presidency before it could be considered an unsalvageable loss.

Oddsmakers seem to feel the same as Schwartz. The latest odds from bookmaker Ladbrokes, for instance, give Trump about a 48 percent chance of not finishing his first term due to either impeachment or resignation.



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Post by Syl on Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:57 am

Bet he doesn't though.

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:14 am

I am ambivalent.  It's a possibility, but only one of several.  

Pro: he never bargained for this much trouble, and he wants escape.  He's gotta be asking, Why did he do this? He doesn't need the money. I raised this about a year ago: he may have gotten into it because he's in so deep in criminal activity, that only his position might get him above (and out) of it.

Con: if he's not president he can't pardon his son and son-in-law, not to mention the many who will look to him for relief.  Of course, when has he ever cared about anyone except himself, so this might not tug at his conscience.

Then, there's the huge windfall of that 20% share of Rosneft Oil.  It's his retirement package.  He won't be able to protect it if he's a 'has-been'.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:21 am

wishful thinking from you Trump haters Razz

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:31 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:wishful thinking from you Trump haters Razz

I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct. I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

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Post by Miffs2 on Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:52 am

The O P is just trying to cheer us up!
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Post by SEXY MAMA on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:10 am

Syl wrote:Bet he doesn't though.

That would be way to easy lol

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Post by eddie on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:13 am

If he resigns it will only be because he's bored of his job and realises he can't implement most of his crazy ideas.
He won't resign to please anyone or to "save face".

He's like a child. He will get bored and that's why he'll resign

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:18 am

Miffs2 wrote:The O P is just trying to cheer us up!

I look upon it as an octopus...a many tentacled beast. There is so much greed and corruption, there are so many laws involved, so many bad characters, and so there are so many remedies. The only relief that a resignation would give us is a decided victory, and the right to say I told you so.

Obviously, Trump has advisers, and he will take the best option for himself. To that extent, it's the worst option for us. But the situation is, with the special prosecutor closing in, there are no good options for Trump. Resignation would be a kind of throwing yourself on the mercy of the court...and I'm glad we've reached that point.

But, he's 71-years of age, and he won't live to feel the venom Americans have for him anyway, so resignation is probably the quick and dirty end to the whole thing. After all, how much time and money do you invest in taking revenge on a dirty old man?

I guess I would like to see them go at least so far as to forfeit, seize and confiscate his estate as a criminal enterprise. That way, none of his heirs can carry on in his name.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:30 am

we are about to impeach trump................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................no wait trumps about to resign................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:39 am

Original Quill wrote:
Yahoo News wrote:TRUMP IS GOING TO RESIGN SOON, PRESIDENT'S 'ART OF THE DEAL' WRITER PREDICTS

BY TIM MARCIN

The guy who helped Fake President Trump write his seminal book, The Art of the Deal, said the former reality-TV star will soon leave the White House on his own accord.

In a series of tweets Wednesday, Tony Schwartz—who co-authored the 1987 book that helped define the real estate magnate's public image—said he thought the walls were closing in on Trump and he would soon leave office in an attempt to save face.

Every tweet Schwartz sent Wednesday was about Trump. "Think of Trump as a toddler w/reactive attachment disorder, and therefore in a permanent virulent tantrum. His development ended at age 7," he posted. He later added, "Remember that every time Trump criticizes and demeans someone he is projecting his deep sense of inadequacy & self-hatred onto others."

Later, he wrote in a series of three tweets that Trump's end would come before the year was out. "The circle is closing at blinding speed. Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice," Schwartztweeted. "Trump's presidency is effectively over. Would be amazed if he survives till end of the year. More likely resigns by fall, if not sooner."

For Americans who don't support Trump—that's a lot of folks, considering the president's approval rating is hovering at about 37 percent—Schwartz warned that they have to keep up the pressure if they want the billionaire to resign. "Trump must be isolated. Resistance every day. The end is near but must keep pressure high," he tweeted.

Schwartz, now the CEO of the Energy Project, has been a critic of Trump as he ascended to the White House and has regularly tried to explain how the president goes about making decisions. In May, Schwartz wrote in The Washington Post that Trump "didn't value—nor even necessarily recognize—the qualities that tend to emerge as people grow more secure, such as empathy, generosity, reflectiveness, the capacity to delay gratification or, above all, a conscience, an inner sense of right and wrong."

Instead, everything for him is transactional and considered a win or a loss. If that is true, it would stand to reason that Trump will desert the presidency before it could be considered an unsalvageable loss.

Oddsmakers seem to feel the same as Schwartz. The latest odds from bookmaker Ladbrokes, for instance, give Trump about a 48 percent chance of not finishing his first term due to either impeachment or resignation.




so he makes a whole load of tweets criticising and trying to demean trump but says,,,

"Remember that every time Trump criticizes and demeans someone he is projecting his deep sense of inadequacy & self-hatred onto others."


i assume that applies to him as well then


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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:49 am

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:wishful thinking from you Trump haters Razz

I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct.  I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .


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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:51 am

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Miffs2 wrote:The O P is just trying to cheer us up!

I look upon it as an octopus...a many tentacled beast.  There is so much greed and corruption, there are so many laws involved, so many bad characters, and so there are so many remedies.  The only relief that a resignation would give us is a decided victory, and the right to say I told you so.

Obviously, Trump has advisers, and he will take the best option for himself.  To that extent, it's the worst option for us.  But the situation is, with the special prosecutor closing in, there are no good options for Trump.  Resignation would be a kind of throwing yourself on the mercy of the court...and I'm glad we've reached that point.

But, he's 71-years of age, and he won't live to feel the venom Americans have for him anyway, so resignation is probably the quick and dirty end to the whole thing.  After all, how much time and money do you invest in taking revenge on a dirty old man?

I guess I would like to see them go at least so far as to forfeit, seize and confiscate his estate as a criminal enterprise.  That way, none of his heirs can carry on in his name.

You are absolutely deranged .

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:52 am

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I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct.  I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .




Which is what happened with Obama in power for 8 years, as he was on the back end of countless hate.

He endured some of the most idiotic racial hatred and still shone through.

You surely then must speak the same about those who were hateful to Obama then Dibs?

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:52 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct.  I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .



well said

my sentiments entirely

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:54 am

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I look upon it as an octopus...a many tentacled beast.  There is so much greed and corruption, there are so many laws involved, so many bad characters, and so there are so many remedies.  The only relief that a resignation would give us is a decided victory, and the right to say I told you so.

Obviously, Trump has advisers, and he will take the best option for himself.  To that extent, it's the worst option for us.  But the situation is, with the special prosecutor closing in, there are no good options for Trump.  Resignation would be a kind of throwing yourself on the mercy of the court...and I'm glad we've reached that point.

But, he's 71-years of age, and he won't live to feel the venom Americans have for him anyway, so resignation is probably the quick and dirty end to the whole thing.  After all, how much time and money do you invest in taking revenge on a dirty old man?

I guess I would like to see them go at least so far as to forfeit, seize and confiscate his estate as a criminal enterprise.  That way, none of his heirs can carry on in his name.

You are absolutely deranged .


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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

Do you not think calling someone deranged, is also not hateful?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:56 am

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so he makes a whole load of tweets criticising and trying to demean trump but says,,,

"Remember that every time Trump criticizes and demeans someone he is projecting his deep sense of inadequacy & self-hatred onto others."


i assume that applies to him as well then


Perhaps. You'll have to take that up with him.

I find he's a good source, only because he knows Trump so well. I read The Art of the Deal many years back, and it was all personal and biographical. It was hardly a 'how to' manual on deal making, as the title suggests. Someone who got inside Trump that far, has got to have some insights into his attitudes and fears today.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:59 am

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

You are absolutely deranged .


You just said the following

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

Do you not think calling someone deranged, is also not hateful?

His hatred for another human being is displaying someone with serious problems -mad; insane. He needs help and fast .

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:03 am

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I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct.  I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .

Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today. It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work. Law is what I do for a living. It's just a job.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:04 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
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You just said the following



Do you not think calling someone deranged, is also not hateful?

His hatred for another human being is displaying someone with serious problems -mad; insane. He needs help and fast .

Which by your reasoning would make you the same right?

I do not think you are deranged or mad, insane and neither is Quill and i argue with him like cats and dogs. I find some of his type of posting to be in fact like Trump. Looking to inflame people.

So by the same view you must think Trump is deranged, mad and insane surely? As Quill simple uses the same tactics as Trump and Trump has most definately been quite hateful towards others has he not?

So you clearly are contradicting yourself, allowing Trumps hate to have a free pass and only pull up Quill for using the same tactics in hate back at Trump

What is worse, is are you now excusing hate due to madness?

Is every hate crime now down to madness?

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:20 am

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .

Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.

For a man in such a high career position you are a real bad example to others - i wouldn't want you as my lawyer . I would expect better behaviour seriously .

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:22 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
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Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.

For a man in such a high career position you are a real bad example to others - i wouldn't want you as my lawyer . I would expect better behaviour seriously .

Double standard alert.


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Post by Andy on Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:58 am

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I just said i'm ambivalent, and given you perfectly valid reasons why.  What part of that term do you have trouble understanding?.    

But your instincts are correct.  I certainly want him to feel the most pain...whichever way that lies.

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .


But do you not have the same feelings about Jeremy Corbyn as 63% of Americans and 98% of the rest of the world feel about Trump?

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How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .


But do you not have the same feelings about Jeremy Corbyn as 63% of Americans and 98% of the rest of the world feel about Trump?

I don't like his policies - but I wouldn't wish him harm in any way - he is doing a job he has his way of doing it and I accept that - but I didn't vote for him and I would never wish pain or harm on him or any human being . It's silly .

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:13 am

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How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .

Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.


Trump is not rounding up people into slave deathcamps and killing people in their millions - your comments are so insulting towards the real victims of the holocaust and Hitler's insanity and evil.

when you have no valid argument, invoke the name of Hitler. it's always the same. so utterly childishly pathetic

if that's really the best you can do,,,,,,

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:14 am

Angry Andy wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

How sad you are to feel such hatred for another person that is something I do not understand - its just so silly to hate someone so much that it causes you such hateful feelings towards another human being .

I do hope you are okay seriously I've never known so many people have so much hatred in their hearts over an election really its so sad that you and others feel this sore .


But do you not have the same feelings about Jeremy Corbyn as 63% of Americans and 98% of the rest of the world feel about Trump?


certainly not

i wouldn't vote for him

i think he's a fraud and a bit of a dead loss - socialism has never worked and never will


but to wish pain, destruction and death on someone is just downright nasty. far far worse than the man they are supposedly fighting against, they just can't see it

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:24 am

gelico wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:

But do you not have the same feelings about Jeremy Corbyn as 63% of Americans and 98% of the rest of the world feel about Trump?


certainly not

i wouldn't vote for him

i think he's a fraud and a bit of a dead loss - socialism has never worked and never will


but to wish pain, destruction and death on someone is just downright nasty.   far far worse than the man they are supposedly fighting against, they just can't see it

I agree its wrong to wish pain and death on anyone


Is the following not also nasty?

You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything.

Grab them by the p***y, you can do anything.

So he is basically admitting to sexually abusing women without their conscent.

Are you not horrified that such a man thinks he can abuse women this way Gelico?

Its a simple situation Gelico

As stated, I agree that Quills views are poor, so why would anyone in their right mind support someone who thinks its okay to sexual abuse women?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:28 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.

For a man in such a high career position you are a real bad example to others - i wouldn't want you as my lawyer . I would expect better behaviour seriously .

Oh my. Well, for someone who appears to admire Hitler, loss of your approval will be only faintly missed. I guess I'll have to have to live with the disappointment. Rolling Eyes

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Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.


Trump is not  rounding up people into slave deathcamps and killing people in their millions - your comments are so insulting towards the real victims of the holocaust and Hitler's insanity and evil.

when you have no valid argument, invoke the name of Hitler.  it's always the same.  so utterly childishly pathetic

if that's really the best you can do,,,,,,
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For a man in such a high career position you are a real bad example to others - i wouldn't want you as my lawyer . I would expect better behaviour seriously .

Oh my.  Well, for someone who appears to admire Hitler, loss of your approval will be only faintly missed.  I guess I'll have to have to live with the disappointment.  Rolling Eyes

She does not admire Hitler and that was poor as her post on you Quill

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

For a man in such a high career position you are a real bad example to others - i wouldn't want you as my lawyer . I would expect better behaviour seriously .

Oh my.  Well, for someone who appears to admire Hitler, loss of your approval will be only faintly missed.  I guess I'll have to have to live with the disappointment.  Rolling Eyes

hardly - see gelico's reply to you I think that says it all .

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:32 am

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certainly not

i wouldn't vote for him

i think he's a fraud and a bit of a dead loss - socialism has never worked and never will


but to wish pain, destruction and death on someone is just downright nasty.   far far worse than the man they are supposedly fighting against, they just can't see it

I agree its wrong to wish pain and death on anyone


Is the following not also nasty?

You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything.

Grab them by the p***y, you can do anything.

So he is basically admitting to sexually abusing women without their conscent.

Are you not horrified that such a man thinks he can abuse women this way Gelico?

Its a simple situation Gelico

As stated, I agree that Quills views are poor, so why would anyone in their right mind support someone who thinks its okay to sexual abuse women?


he sounds like what he is really, a pathetic sexist twat bragging like a 15 year old virgin who desperately wants his mates not to know he's a virgin

i know it was an old conversation but still embarrassing and he must have been at least in his 50s when he said that


hardly on a par with Hitler though is my point

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But do you not have the same feelings about Jeremy Corbyn as 63% of Americans and 98% of the rest of the world feel about Trump?


certainly not

i wouldn't vote for him

i think he's a fraud and a bit of a dead loss - socialism has never worked and never will


but to wish pain, destruction and death on someone is just downright nasty.   far far worse than the man they are supposedly fighting against, they just can't see it

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I agree its wrong to wish pain and death on anyone


Is the following not also nasty?


So he is basically admitting to sexually abusing women without their conscent.

Are you not horrified that such a man thinks he can abuse women this way Gelico?

Its a simple situation Gelico

As stated, I agree that Quills views are poor, so why would anyone in their right mind support someone who thinks its okay to sexual abuse women?


he sounds like what he is really,  a pathetic sexist twat bragging like a 15 year old virgin who desperately wants his mates not to know he's a virgin

i know it was an old conversation but still embarrassing and he must have been at least in his 50s when he said that


hardly on a par with Hitler though is my point

What has his age got to do with anything when we are speaking about a leader that holds such poor views on women?

Are you seriously suggesting someone that misogynistic has changed over night?

Maybe not on a par with Hitler, but he wants to deny many poor people basic health care.

He wants to deport people born to immigrant parents who moved to the US as children

I mean does trump sound like he is a humanitarian?

What will make you sit up and listen?

People dying from a lack of health care?

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:52 am

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Perhaps if someone had said the same to Churchill about Hitler, Britain would be speaking German today.  It's nice to be Pollyannish about your world, until someone really, really threatens it.

Then it's time to pick up your tools and go to work.  Law is what I do for a living.  It's just a job.

Trump is not  rounding up people into slave deathcamps and killing people in their millions - your comments are so insulting towards the real victims of the holocaust and Hitler's insanity and evil.

when you have no valid argument, invoke the name of Hitler.  it's always the same.  so utterly childishly pathetic

if that's really the best you can do,,,,,,

Trump 'two-times' has broken laws.  We are a nation of laws.  I often see you condemning people who break laws; its disappointing that your standards wander so easily.

You are viewing this as a political matter.  It's not.  The laws Trump 'two-times' is allegedly guilty of, forms of Racketeering and Espionage, predated his activities.  Trump has laundered money for those who traffic in human flesh.  That makes him a part of the crime of modern day slavery, and it's attendant crimes of under-aged prostitution, kidnapping, transportation and drugs.  Indeed, he himself has been accused of raping a 13-year old girl.  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

The fact that Trump has tried to build a palace of legitimacy over this marsh, by illegitimately attaining public office, should not dissuade the people of law from bringing him to justice.  The pace of special prosecutor Mueller is slow, but certain.


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Trump is not  rounding up people into slave deathcamps and killing people in their millions - your comments are so insulting towards the real victims of the holocaust and Hitler's insanity and evil.

when you have no valid argument, invoke the name of Hitler.  it's always the same.  so utterly childishly pathetic

if that's really the best you can do,,,,,,

Trump 'two-times' has broken laws.  We are a nation of laws.  I often see you condemning people who break laws; its disappointing that your standards wilt so easily.

You are viewing this as a political matter.  It's not.  The laws Trump 'two-times' is guilty of, Racketeering and Espionage, predated his activities.  Trump has laundered money for those who traffic in human flesh.  That makes him a part of the crime of modern day slavery, and it's attendant crimes of under-aged prostitution, kidnapping, transportation and drugs.  Indeed, he himself has been accused of raping a 13-year old girl.  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

The fact that Trump has tried to build a palace of legitimacy over this marsh, by illegitimately attaining public office, should not dissuade the people of law from bringing him justice.  The pace of special prosecutor Mueller is slow, but certain.

I am sure gelico will condemn Trump if he is arrested for breaking the law.

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:57 am

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he sounds like what he is really,  a pathetic sexist twat bragging like a 15 year old virgin who desperately wants his mates not to know he's a virgin

i know it was an old conversation but still embarrassing and he must have been at least in his 50s when he said that


hardly on a par with Hitler though is my point

What has his age got to do with anything when we are speaking about a leader that holds such poor views on women?

Are you seriously suggesting someone that misogynistic has changed over night?

Maybe not on a par with Hitler, but he wants to deny many poor people basic health care.

He wants to deport people born to immigrant parents who moved to the US as children

I mean does trump sound like he is a humanitarian?

What will make you sit up and listen?

People dying from a lack of health care?


he was clearly old enough to have known better (not a 15 year old virgin is my point)

no i never suggested he changed, overnight or otherwise

no not on a par with Hitler which was, in fact, the only point i was making to quill

as for the rest of it - what to you mean ''what will make me sit up and listen'' wtf should I? i dont have much interest now in Trump at the best of times

like I said, the only point i bothered to make was on quills pathetic attempts to liken him to Hitler

i never mentioned anything else about him at all


ps, obama care was a failure

deporting people who came illegally i think

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Trump 'two-times' has broken laws.  We are a nation of laws.  I often see you condemning people who break laws; its disappointing that your standards wilt so easily.

You are viewing this as a political matter.  It's not.  The laws Trump 'two-times' is guilty of, Racketeering and Espionage, predated his activities.  Trump has laundered money for those who traffic in human flesh.  That makes him a part of the crime of modern day slavery, and it's attendant crimes of under-aged prostitution, kidnapping, transportation and drugs.  Indeed, he himself has been accused of raping a 13-year old girl.  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

The fact that Trump has tried to build a palace of legitimacy over this marsh, by illegitimately attaining public office, should not dissuade the people of law from bringing him justice.  The pace of special prosecutor Mueller is slow, but certain.

I am sure gelico will condemn Trump if he is arrested for breaking the law.

As of yet that has not happened

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:01 am

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Trump is not  rounding up people into slave deathcamps and killing people in their millions - your comments are so insulting towards the real victims of the holocaust and Hitler's insanity and evil.

when you have no valid argument, invoke the name of Hitler.  it's always the same.  so utterly childishly pathetic

if that's really the best you can do,,,,,,

Trump 'two-times' has broken laws.  We are a nation of laws.  I often see you condemning people who break laws; its disappointing that your standards wander so easily.

You are viewing this as a political matter.  It's not.  The laws Trump 'two-times' is allegedly guilty of, forms of Racketeering and Espionage, predated his activities.  Trump has laundered money for those who traffic in human flesh.  That makes him a part of the crime of modern day slavery, and it's attendant crimes of under-aged prostitution, kidnapping, transportation and drugs.  Indeed, he himself has been accused of raping a 13-year old girl.  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

The fact that Trump has tried to build a palace of legitimacy over this marsh, by illegitimately attaining public office, should not dissuade the people of law from bringing him to justice.  The pace of special prosecutor Mueller is slow, but certain.



so do presidents get some kind of immunity? Bill clinton was accused of rape, more than once but nothing has happened.

FFS! If Trump is as bad as you say then get cops to arrest him, charge him, get him in court, prove him guilty and bang him up

and you're the lawyer huh?

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Post by gelico on Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:03 am

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I am sure gelico will condemn Trump if he is arrested for breaking the law.

As of yet that has not happened

The one thing I've always said about law is, it's slow.  But it is methodical.  I have faith in Mr. Mueller.  He has already uncovered so much.

if the law is as slow with Trump as it is with Clinton then he'll be long in the ground before he's ever charged with anything, it seems

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What has his age got to do with anything when we are speaking about a leader that holds such poor views on women?

Are you seriously suggesting someone that misogynistic has changed over night?

Maybe not on a par with Hitler, but he wants to deny many poor people basic health care.

He wants to deport people born to immigrant parents who moved to the US as children

I mean does trump sound like he is a humanitarian?

What will make you sit up and listen?

People dying from a lack of health care?


he was clearly old enough to have known better (not a 15 year old virgin is my point)
Thorin wrote:But he did not know better and clearly advocated sexually abusing women and yet you are making excuses. I find that poor. Its either wrong or its okay. Saying he should know better is moving away from the fact he did say this

no i never suggested he changed, overnight or otherwise
Thorin wrote:Yet claimed he said this when 50, where what has that got to do with the price of bread.
You were offering up thus an excuse unconciously


no not on a par with Hitler which was, in fact, the only point i was making to quill
Thorin wrote:Agreed


as for the rest of it  - what to you mean ''what will make me sit up and listen''  wtf should I?  i dont have much interest now in Trump at the best of times
Thorin wrote:Do you not? Then why are you posting on threads about him?
like I said, the only point i bothered to make was on quills pathetic attempts to liken him to Hitler
Thorin wrote:Which is on a par to things Trump says himself, correct?

i never mentioned anything else about him at all

ps, obama care was a failure
Thorin wrote:Really? Since when?
How many people now have access to care because of Obama care than before it happened?

deporting people who came illegally i think
Thorin wrote:So you are happy to deport children, who have grown up basically their whole life in the US,
because they came as immigrant children? Even though the US was built and formed on immigration?
These are questions for you to answer. Not claiming you agree either, just would like to know.

not interested in the whys and wherefores of this tonight anyway

Contradiction


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I am sure gelico will condemn Trump if he is arrested for breaking the law.

As of yet that has not happened

The one thing I've always said about law is, it's slow.  But it is methodical.  I have faith in Mr. Mueller.  He has already uncovered so much.


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Original Quill wrote:

Trump 'two-times' has broken laws.  We are a nation of laws.  I often see you condemning people who break laws; its disappointing that your standards wander so easily.

You are viewing this as a political matter.  It's not.  The laws Trump 'two-times' is allegedly guilty of, forms of Racketeering and Espionage, predated his activities.  Trump has laundered money for those who traffic in human flesh.  That makes him a part of the crime of modern day slavery, and it's attendant crimes of under-aged prostitution, kidnapping, transportation and drugs.  Indeed, he himself has been accused of raping a 13-year old girl.  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

The fact that Trump has tried to build a palace of legitimacy over this marsh, by illegitimately attaining public office, should not dissuade the people of law from bringing him to justice.  The pace of special prosecutor Mueller is slow, but certain.



so do presidents get some kind of immunity?  Bill clinton was accused of rape, more than once but nothing has happened.

FFS!  If Trump is as bad as you say then get cops to arrest him, charge him, get him in court, prove him guilty and bang him up

and you're the lawyer huh?

Mr. Clinton was never accused of rape. He had an extra-marital affair, and lied about it under oath, after the fact.

Yes, presidents get immunity. The only thing they can be prosecuted for, is impeachment. After conviction for impeachment, a president can be tried for the underlying crime.

As president, Trump 'two-times' can pardon those who engaged in any conspiracy with him. That is why they might be prosecuted under New York State law. Trump 'two-times' can't pardon for state law crimes.

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The one thing I've always said about law is, it's slow.  But it is methodical.  I have faith in Mr. Mueller.  He has already uncovered so much.


I would have thought you would back innocent until proven guilty would you not?

I don't know. The evidence is really, really mounting up. It's kinda like OJ Simpson, you know?

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he was clearly old enough to have known better (not a 15 year old virgin is my point)


no i never suggested he changed, overnight or otherwise



no not on a par with Hitler which was, in fact, the only point i was making to quill



as for the rest of it  - what to you mean ''what will make me sit up and listen''  wtf should I?  i dont have much interest now in Trump at the best of times

like I said, the only point i bothered to make was on quills pathetic attempts to liken him to Hitler


i never mentioned anything else about him at all

ps, obama care was a failure


deporting people who came illegally i think


not interested in the whys and wherefores of this tonight anyway

Contradiction


why on earth would I make excuses for him?

i think he's an arse, I'm no huge advocate of his, he gets on my wick which is why i've kinda lost interest. listening to him speak just irritates me, not sure why. maybe his constant repetitions and bigging himself up and saying everythings marvellous, i dont know, just irritates the fuck out of me tbh (it might just be the way i am right now)

i think you've completely missed the point i was making but no worries, i'm not really up to this

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Thorin wrote:

Contradiction


why on earth would I make excuses for him?

i think he's an arse, I'm no huge advocate of his, he gets on my wick which is why i've kinda lost interest.  listening to him speak just irritates me, not sure why.  maybe his constant repetitions and bigging himself up and saying everythings marvellous, i dont know, just irritates the fuck out of me tbh (it might just be the way i am right now)

i think you've completely missed the point i was making but no worries, i'm not really up to this


You may not think you did, but you did make excuses, as you went off his age for starters

Why are you getting uptight about this?

I am not being horrible to you but genuinly interested on your views.

Its a conversation, but respect now you do not want to  talk about it

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I would have thought you would back innocent until proven guilty would you not?

I don't know.  The evidence is really, really mounting up.  It's kinda like OJ Simpson, you know?  


Its simple Quill, do you back the view of innocent until proven guilty.

Yes or No?

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The one thing I've always said about law is, it's slow.  But it is methodical.  I have faith in Mr. Mueller.  He has already uncovered so much.

if the law is as slow with Trump as it is with Clinton then he'll be long in the ground before he's ever charged with anything, it seems

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I agree. But he will forever be known as the president who money-laundered for Russians and eastern Europeans, and trafficked in human beings and prostitution.

Do be careful with the argument that he is old. Vod accused nicko of wishing death, when he only engaged in the same speculation as you.

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I don't know.  The evidence is really, really mounting up.  It's kinda like OJ Simpson, you know?  


Its simple Quill, do you back the view of innocent until proven guilty.

Yes or No?

Not in cases where the evidence is there, but the accused cannot be prosecuted.  Guilt and innocence are terms of legal consequence, and the meaning of the terms is moot when the consequence isn't there.

The only thing that Trump 'two-times' can be subjected to is impeachment proceedings.  After impeachment, he might be in legal jeopardy...it depends upon if his replacement (Pence?) would then pardon him.  This is what Ford did with Nixon.

However, an interesting question remains as to whether he can be prosecuted under New York State law.  The states have parallel laws under which he might be guilty, and if he is convicted under state law he can't be pardoned by federal authority.


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Its simple Quill, do you back the view of innocent until proven guilty.

Yes or No?

Not in cases where the evidence is there, but the accused cannot be prosecuted.  Guilt and innocence are terms of legal consequence, and the meaning of the terms is moot when the consequence isn't there.

The only thing that Trump 'two-times' can be subjected to is impeachment proceedings.  After impeachment, he might be in legal jeopardy...it depends upon if his replacement (Pence?) would then pardon him.  This is what Ford did with Nixon.

However, an interesting question remains as to whether he can be prosecuted under New York State law.  They have parallel laws of which he might be guilty, and he can't be pardoned by federal authority.


So to clarify, you do not believe in the US justice system and that people are guilty without a trial.

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