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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:38 pm




Snippet from a speech given by Professor Jordan B Peterson at the University of Toronto, during an event organized by the group Students in Support of Free Speech.




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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:55 pm



I cant watch any vid clips on here still cos of my shitty internet setup... but I have read that this man is being persecuted for using proper English (language/words/meanings), instead of using made up PC mumbo jumbo words/phrases...



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Post by Original Quill on Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:05 am

He reminds me of an autistic friend I have...lot's of passion, even more adjectives, but zero analysis. Marxism? Then he goes immediately to Leninist Bolshevism.

Marx, who died in 1883, was an economist, not a politician. He was born in Germany, lived in Paris, and died in London. He had never been to Russia, and had nothing to do with a so-called Soviet Union. It's truly amazing how ill-informed people are.

Where is this scared rabbit from? Toronto? Perhaps he should go back to school...I suggest McGill University in Montreal, where he can get a real education.

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Original Quill wrote:He reminds me of an autistic friend I have...lot's of passion, even more adjectives, but zero analysis.  Marxism?  Then he goes immediately to Leninist Bolshevism.

Marx, who died in 1883, was an economist, not a politician.  He was born in Germany, lived in Paris, and died in London.  He had never been to Russia, and had nothing to do with a so-called Soviet Union.  It's truly amazing how ill-informed people are.

Where is this scared rabbit from?  Toronto?  Perhaps he should go back to school...I suggest McGill University in Montreal, where he can get a real education.


And yet again all Quill can do is yet again do what the left always do, attempt to deligitimize the speaker and not what he said. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

At the end of the day Marxism in practice in each and every case has been oppressive and saw millions die under such barbarism..

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:30 am

Thorin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:He reminds me of an autistic friend I have...lot's of passion, even more adjectives, but zero analysis.  Marxism?  Then he goes immediately to Leninist Bolshevism.

Marx, who died in 1883, was an economist, not a politician.  He was born in Germany, lived in Paris, and died in London.  He had never been to Russia, and had nothing to do with a so-called Soviet Union.  It's truly amazing how ill-informed people are.

Where is this scared rabbit from?  Toronto?  Perhaps he should go back to school...I suggest McGill University in Montreal, where he can get a real education.


And yet again all Quill can do is yet again do what the left always do, attempt to deligitimize the speaker and not what he said. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

At the end of the day Marxism in practice in each and every case has been oppressive and saw millions die under such barbarism..

Admit it...you don't know a thing about Marx or Marxism. Anyone who did would recognize that this guy--Jordon Peterson?--is a rank amateur. Moreover, by his body language it is clear that he's afraid he'll be called out on it.

It's truly pathetic.

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:32 am

Original Quill wrote:
Thorin wrote:


And yet again all Quill can do is yet again do what the left always do, attempt to deligitimize the speaker and not what he said. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

At the end of the day Marxism in practice in each and every case has been oppressive and saw millions die under such barbarism..

Admit it...you don't know a thing about Marx or Marxism.  Anyone who did would recognize that this guy--Jordon Peterson?--is a rank amateur.  Moreover, by his body language it is clear that he's afraid he'll be called out on it.

It's truly pathetic.

lol so again all you can do is try to deligitimize people and not take on the points made

He is far more famous and revered, than you will ever hope to be

So the only thing truly pathetic is regressives like you, that cannot debate.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:57 am

Thorin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:He reminds me of an autistic friend I have...lot's of passion, even more adjectives, but zero analysis.  Marxism?  Then he goes immediately to Leninist Bolshevism.

Marx, who died in 1883, was an economist, not a politician.  He was born in Germany, lived in Paris, and died in London.  He had never been to Russia, and had nothing to do with a so-called Soviet Union.  It's truly amazing how ill-informed people are.

Where is this scared rabbit from?  Toronto?  Perhaps he should go back to school...I suggest McGill University in Montreal, where he can get a real education.


And yet again all Quill can do is yet again do what the left always do, attempt to deligitimize the speaker and not what he said. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

At the end of the day Marxism in practice in each and every case has been oppressive and saw millions die under such barbarism..

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Pure bullshit, Dodge...

All you keep on proving is that you don't have a clue about Economic systems...

Stop blindly repeating opinions from far-right wing blabber sites;  and get yourself a proper edukashin.        study

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:13 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:


And yet again all Quill can do is yet again do what the left always do, attempt to deligitimize the speaker and not what he said. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

At the end of the day Marxism in practice in each and every case has been oppressive and saw millions die under such barbarism..

Rolling Eyes

Pure bullshit, Dodge...

All you keep on proving is that you don't have a clue about Economic systems...

Stop blindly repeating opinions from far-right wing blabber sites;  and get yourself a proper edukashin.             study

Communism is as vile and evil as Nazism

Communism is born from marxism, and is totalitarian

The deaths of tens of millions is evidence of that

You again invoke any right of Stalin, as Far Right showing you truly are a left wing extremist, who cannot back up your baseless claims, but seek to label anyone that disagrees with you as the Far Right. It shows you have not got a clue about Jordan Perterson

What the fuck is a proper edukashin?

How many Communist regimes do you need to read the history of to understand you are an apologist for pure evil?

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Post by nicko on Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:56 am

I did like his hat though, just like the one Jeremy Corbyn wears, [sorry to go off subject]
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Re: How to shut up a marxist (Jordan Peterson speech)

Post by Original Quill on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:36 pm

OMG, you're more uneducated than I realized.

Thorin wrote:Communism is as vile and evil as Nazism

"Vile?"  Is that some sort of gradient on a scale of evil?  "Vile" is what you call your girlfriend's other boyfriend, didge, when he takes her to a fancy restaurant.

Thorin wrote:Communism is born from marxism, and is totalitarian

"Totalitarian" is a political description.  Marx wrote about economics and history: historical determinism.  He wrote as much about totalitarianism as he spoke to his cat.

Thorin wrote:The deaths of tens of millions is evidence of that

Stalin alone caused the deaths of 20-million.  He ran the Soviet state in an industrial transition phase.  The predicate  political philosophy to Stalin you are looking for is Bolshevism, not marxism.  Marx was an economist living in London...Lenin was the leader of Bolshevism, residing in St. Petersburg.

Thorin wrote:You again invoke any right of Stalin, as Far Right showing you truly are a left wing extremist, who cannot back up your baseless claims, but seek to label anyone that disagrees with you as the Far Right. It shows you have not got a clue about Jordan Perterson

Left? Right?  At the far right of Bolshevism was Bukharin (1888-1938), while the "left wing" was occupied by Trotsky.  Stalin wasn't even a thinker.  While Stalinism came to represent the reality of the Soviet regime, Trotskyism stood for the utopian side...a belief in a world revolution.

Marx wasn't even in the running.  Marxian analysis was applicable only to a bourgeois society, specific to the process of the bourgeois revolution: the transition from a 17th-century guild society to an 18th-century industrial society.

Thorin wrote:What the fuck is a proper edukashin?

How many Communist regimes do you need to read the history of to understand you are an apologist for pure evil?

"Vile?"  "Pure evil?"  "Pure evil" is what you call your girlfriend's other boyfriend when he wins her heart!  I reckon you lacked the charm, you charmer!   Laughing

You are out of the loop of history and academics, aren't you?


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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:43 pm

Original Quill wrote:OMG, you're more uneducated than I realized.

Thorin wrote:Misdirection yet again

"Vile?"  Is that some sort of gradient on a scale of evil?  "Vile" is what you call your girlfriend's other boyfriend, didge, when he takes her to a fancy restaurant.

Thorin wrote:No evil and vile is what you call Communism under Pol Pot, Stalin, Tito, Mao, to name a few

"Totalitarian" is a political description.  Marx wrote about economics and history: historical determinism.  He wrote as much about totalitarianism as he spoke to his cat.

Thorin wrote:Marx was a racist and an idiot, his totalitarian ideology is a hatefest

Stalin alone caused the deaths of 20-million.  He ran the Soviet state in an industrial transition phase.  The predicate  political philosophy to Stalin you are looking for is Bolshevism, not marxism.  Marx was an economist living in London...Lenin was the leader of Bolshevism, residing in St. Petersburg.

Thorin wrote:Ah the old piss poor excuse, try to disassociate Maxism from Communism, which is as ignorant as it gets

Left? Right?  At the far right of Bolshevism was Bukharin (1888-1938), while the "left wing" was occupied by Trotsky.  Stalin wasn't even a thinker.  While Stalinism came to represent the reality of the Soviet regime, Trotskyism stood for the utopian side...a belief in a world revolution.

Marx wasn't even in the running.  Marxian analysis was applicable only to a bourgeois society, specific to the process of the bourgeois revolution: the transition from a guild society to an industrial society.

Thorin wrote:Stalin and Lenin were pure evil, and who cares about Trotsky, they were all killers and murderers. Lets face it all these people followed Marxism, there is no denying this and it was from his evil ideology that Communism as formed and has been an abject failure countless times in history. Where millions have died and been persecuted

How many Communist regimes do you need to read the history of to understand you are an apologist for pure evil?

"Vile?"  "Pure evil?"  "Pure evil" is what you call your girlfriend's other boyfriend when he wins her heart!

You are out of the loop of academics, aren't you?

I have come to the conclusion you are an apologist for Communism and some of the worst crimes in history, no better than a holocaust denier.

Marxism, ha ha, biggest crock of shit going

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Thorin wrote:I have come to the conclusion you are an apologist for Communism and some of the worst crimes in history, no better than a holocaust denier.

Marxism, ha ha, biggest crock of shit going

The last time the world saw any real communism was the Paris Commune of 1871. Try again.

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Thorin wrote:I have come to the conclusion you are an apologist for Communism and some of the worst crimes in history, no better than a holocaust denier.

Marxism, ha ha, biggest crock of shit going

The last time the world saw any real communism was the Paris Commune of 1871.  Try again.

Perhaps Mexican Latin Dance Caller.  fiesta


Ah yet more apologism and completely flawed and dunce reply

Its like what is real Islam and who is a real Muslim.

As it does not matter, they all follow Islam, but in varying degrees

The same as scummy Commies and Communist nations in history, all follow Communism



Doh

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:53 am

Thorin wrote:Ah yet more apologism and completely flawed and dunce reply

Its like what is real Islam and who is a real Muslim.

As it does not matter, they all follow Islam, but in varying degrees

The same as scummy Commies and Communist nations in history, all follow Communism

Doh

It's obvious that you are afraid you are being shown up.  Well...you are.  You've got a 'Classic Comics' understanding of not only Marxism, but all of socialism...which you run together as if you didn't understand any of it.

Do you understand why one of your own nation's parties is called 'Labour'?  Does that mean the UK is actually a Communist nation?  By your reasoning, it does.

Didge, you are a know-nothing fool.  But your inability to realize it means you are a hopeless fool. It's the reason why you can't carry on a discussion...why your best contributions are C&P jobs of someone else's work.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:15 am

Laughing

And Dodge just keeps on digging himself in deeper and deeper...

Too proud and arrogant to admit that he simply doesn't know the difference between communism and socialism, or Marxism and Capitalism, or authoritarianism and liberalism..

The poor little muppet really should educate himself about the differences between various economic and political systems --  instead of continually showing up his ignorance on here.

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Original Quill wrote:
Thorin wrote:Ah yet more apologism and completely flawed and dunce reply

Its like what is real Islam and who is a real Muslim.

As it does not matter, they all follow Islam, but in varying degrees

The same as scummy Commies and Communist nations in history, all follow Communism

Doh

It's obvious that you are afraid you are being shown up.  Well...you are.  You've got a 'Classic Comics' understanding of not only Marxism, but all of socialism...which you run together as if you didn't understand any of it.

Do you understand why one of your own nation's parties is called 'Labour'?  Does that mean the UK is actually a Communist nation?  By your reasoning, it does.

Didge, you are a know-nothing fool.  But your inability to realize it means you are a hopeless fool.  It's the reason why you can't carry on a discussion...why your best contributions are C&P jobs of someone else's work.


1) So explain to me that when ever any nations has implemented Marxist ideology in the form of Communism. Millions of people have suffered oppression, systematic murder through starvation and murder?

2) The latest Labour party is Far Left in ideology and extremely dangerous. It hails the Marxism of Venezuela. So lets talk about that disaster shall we?

3) And you are an apologist from the mass murder of Communism

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:26 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Laughing

And Dodge just keeps on digging himself in deeper and deeper...

Too proud and arrogant to admit that he simply doesn't know the difference between communism and socialism, or Marxism and Capitalism, or authoritarianism and liberalism..

The poor little muppet really should educate himself about the differences between various economic and political systems --  instead of continually showing up his ignorance on here.


Ah the other apologist for mass muder

Then we have the old crap  originally poster by Quill claiming about differences in Marxism and Communism, even though within all Communist nations, they were all advocates of Marxism

Like claiming what us real Muslims and what is real Islam. Its as daft an argument as you get when Commies and Communist nations have been followers of Marxism






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