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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:54 am

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Sports Direct has faced yet another row over how its staff area treated after issuing a notice which appeared to ban staff in one of its Welsh branches from speaking their own language.

A sign appeared in the Bangor Sports Direct store telling staff members that “it has come to our attention that some members of staff are speaking to each other in languages other than English whilst carrying out their duty”.

It continued: “We would like to take this opportunity to remind staff that they must speak in English at all times while they are at work, in order that they can be understood by all members of staff; this includes any personal conversations that may be taking place during work time.


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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:13 pm

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Syl wrote:

Would you find it acceptable for your workmates to whisper to each other...or talk behind their hands so no one else could hear?
The outcome is the same...they are excluding others whether those others are interested or not.


Yes. That is because its a private conversation, which is none of my business. I its my business, they will come and tell me.

They may well be talking about a dickhead boss, which they don;t want a tatter-tale to hear and go running to the boss.

It may well be a surprise they are going to make for someone like a birthday. Hence why unlike you, I do not immediately think negatively if two people were.

So you are talking utter crap again. What gives you the right to be included in every conversation?

Nothing and if you feel that you do, then you are the issue, not them.

Or it may simply be that they are ignorant and like excluding the majority of their workmates from their tittle tattle.


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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:18 pm

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Yes. That is because its a private conversation, which is none of my business. I its my business, they will come and tell me.

They may well be talking about a dickhead boss, which they don;t want a tatter-tale to hear and go running to the boss.

It may well be a surprise they are going to make for someone like a birthday. Hence why unlike you, I do not immediately think negatively if two people were.

So you are talking utter crap again. What gives you the right to be included in every conversation?

Nothing and if you feel that you do, then you are the issue, not them.

Or it may simply be that they are ignorant and like excluding the majority of their workmates from their tittle tattle.



Again who cares if they are?

That is there choice is it not?

I would not be bothered, because they might both be private people about their lives and thus would respect that. As long as they conversed working, what would it matter. 

You cannot force everyone to like you.

Imagine saying to a woman worker, she most converse with the male worker who daily undresses her with his eyes in general chit chat.

I am sure she would tell you to jog the fuck on.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:21 pm

for those of you with rampant paranoia....

get one of these

http://nerdist.com/amazing-translation-device-babel-fish-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy/

or of course you could look for the original

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:28 pm

Thorin wrote:
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Or it may simply be that they are ignorant and like excluding the majority of their workmates from their tittle tattle.



Again who cares if they are?

That is there choice is it not?

I would not be bothered, because they might both be private people about their lives and thus would respect that. As long as they conversed working, what would it matter. 

You cannot force everyone to like you.

Imagine saying to a woman worker, she most converse with the male worker who daily undresses her with his eyes in general chit chat.

I am sure she would tell you to jog the fuck on.

Its not about whether people like one another or not...its more about respect.
If a male worker is being sexually disrespectful to a female colleague that has nothing to do with this thread....not sure why you said that. scratch .

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:28 pm

What does it have to do with paranoia? Two people in this thread appear to be completely missing the point, and it's not Syl or me.

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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:30 pm

I'm the least paranoid person you could wish to meet....so you needn't look at me like that. Razz

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:32 pm

so, if its not paranoia...why does it bother you, that, say two of your colleagues indulge in idle chatter in a language you dont understand??

it can only be a) you are paranoid
or b) you are a nosey old..........

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:34 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:What does it have to do with paranoia? Two people in this thread appear to be completely missing the point, and it's not Syl or me.


Okay, so at work, you would not mind every conversation you had played over the Tannoy system?

Well why do you have to be able to here or join in every persons conversation at work?

Its you trying to impose your views based off some babble about being offended as you claim its rude.

Its nothing more than some irrational bullshit, because you want to force them to always speak English when its not work related.

So the only reason you would be bothered not to understand what two people were saying, would be either you were intolerant or paranoid.

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:34 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so, if its not paranoia...why does it bother you, that, say two of your colleagues indulge in idle chatter in a language you dont understand??

it can only be a) you are paranoid
or b) you are a nosey old..........



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c) Intolerant

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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:36 pm

Or....you respect your colleagues enough to not isolate any of them unecessarily.

To me its the same as whispering or talking behind your hand....its ignorant, especially when English is your first language.

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:39 pm

Syl wrote:Or....you respect your colleagues enough to not isolate any of them unecessarily.

To me its the same as whispering or talking behind your hand....its ignorant, especially when English is your first language.


That is you being intolerant then

As you are expecting others to be as you.

Thus demanding they do as you do. And involve you in everything, thus insecure.

Again you just invent bullshit.

So if I talk behind my hand because were have a surprise for you. You think that is ignorant and that I should not cover my hand and the surprise is spoilt.???

To say its ignorant is based on a paranoia, because again why would you be bothered what they were saying unless you were paranoid it was about you.???

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:45 pm

Managing languages at work

The increased movement of people around the world means it can be quite common for organisations to employ staff from many different countries or ethnic backgrounds. As a result, there may be employees for whom English is not their first language. Often, there may be a number of employees who originate from the same country or share a common language which is not English.
However, an employer:

  • can specify a language of operation, usually English, for business reasons.  However, in Wales some jobs require the holder to speak both English and Welsh

  • can insist on recruiting a job candidate who has skills in English necessary for the job, but it must not select based on assumptions about race, nationality, or ethnic or national origins. Again, in Wales some jobs require the holder to have skills in both English and Welsh necessary for the job

  • should be wary of prohibiting or limiting the use of other languages within the workplace unless they can justify this with a genuine business reason.


http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1849

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:47 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so, if its not paranoia...why does it bother you, that, say two of your colleagues indulge in idle chatter in a language you dont understand??

it can only be a) you are paranoid
or b) you are a nosey old..........

Because it makes others feel excluded. I knew someone who was a care worker, but they all spoke a different language to her, and she felt excluded. They could have spoken English.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:so, if its not paranoia...why does it bother you, that, say two of your colleagues indulge in idle chatter in a language you dont understand??

it can only be a) you are paranoid
or b) you are a nosey old..........

Because it makes others feel excluded. I knew someone who was a care worker, but they all spoke a different language to her, and she felt excluded. They could have spoken English.

That sounds highly socialist, Raggs.  Feelings...it's social theory, at least.  Have you switched sides? Laughing

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:so, if its not paranoia...why does it bother you, that, say two of your colleagues indulge in idle chatter in a language you dont understand??

it can only be a) you are paranoid
or b) you are a nosey old..........

Because it makes others feel excluded. I knew someone who was a care worker, but they all spoke a different language to her, and she felt excluded. They could have spoken English.


So you expect to be included in every conversation?

Insecure again

If they speak to them within daily work in English, then they are including them. They do not have to make all workers included in every private conversations..

Have you ever complained because you were not included in conversations with English workers?

Behave, its just a poor excuse to back a view of intolerance.

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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:52 pm

Thorin wrote:

Managing languages at work



The increased movement of people around the world means it can be quite common for organisations to employ staff from many different countries or ethnic backgrounds. As a result, there may be employees for whom English is not their first language. Often, there may be a number of employees who originate from the same country or share a common language which is not English.
However, an employer:

  • can specify a language of operation, usually English, for business reasons.  However, in Wales some jobs require the holder to speak both English and Welsh


  • can insist on recruiting a job candidate who has skills in English necessary for the job, but it must not select based on assumptions about race, nationality, or ethnic or national origins. Again, in Wales some jobs require the holder to have skills in both English and Welsh necessary for the job

  • should be wary of prohibiting or limiting the use of other languages within the workplace unless they can justify this with a genuine business reason.


http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1849

Obviously Sports direct is not a company that requires workers to speak Welsh.

“We would like to take this opportunity to remind staff that they must speak in English at all times while they are at work, in order that they can be understood by all members of staff; this includes any personal conversations that may be taking place during work time.”

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:53 pm

In retail, people have to work as a team. I don't mean they're all doing the same thing at the same time, but it's a fast-moving business generally, and everyone needs to understand all the little things which go wrong, or right.

If I'm having a conversation with someone at work, someone generally comes up and joins in, and that's fine with me. If I want a really personal conversation, I'll wait until after work, or go somewhere private.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:54 pm

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Because it makes others feel excluded. I knew someone who was a care worker, but they all spoke a different language to her, and she felt excluded. They could have spoken English.

That sounds highly socialist, Raggs.  Feelings...it's social theory, at least.  Have you switched sides? Laughing

I just understand the importance of work relationships and teams.

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:56 pm

Syl wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Managing languages at work





The increased movement of people around the world means it can be quite common for organisations to employ staff from many different countries or ethnic backgrounds. As a result, there may be employees for whom English is not their first language. Often, there may be a number of employees who originate from the same country or share a common language which is not English.
However, an employer:

  • can specify a language of operation, usually English, for business reasons.  However, in Wales some jobs require the holder to speak both English and Welsh


  • can insist on recruiting a job candidate who has skills in English necessary for the job, but it must not select based on assumptions about race, nationality, or ethnic or national origins. Again, in Wales some jobs require the holder to have skills in both English and Welsh necessary for the job

  • should be wary of prohibiting or limiting the use of other languages within the workplace unless they can justify this with a genuine business reason.


http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1849

Obviously Sports direct is not a company that requires workers to speak Welsh.

“We would like to take this opportunity to remind staff that they must speak in English at all times while they are at work, in order that they can be understood by all members of staff; this includes any personal conversations that may be taking place during work time.”


Is that why they apologized to the Welsh workers Syl.

The above is opening the door to discrimination cases and I hope they lose them all.

As private conversations are not a health and safety issue or a problem to the business.

They would get taken to the cleaners on this through discrimination.

As they would have no right to enforce this.

Already this is happening


The Welsh language commissioner is set to investigate whether any rules had been broken under the Welsh Language Measure 2011, which protects and encourages the use of Welsh.

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:57 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:In retail, people have to work as a team. I don't mean they're all doing the same thing at the same time, but it's a fast-moving business generally, and everyone needs to understand all the little things which go wrong, or right.

If I'm having a conversation with someone at work, someone generally comes up and joins in, and that's fine with me. If I want a really personal conversation, I'll wait until after work, or go somewhere private.



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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:01 pm

Thorin wrote:
Syl wrote:

Obviously Sports direct is not a company that requires workers to speak Welsh.

“We would like to take this opportunity to remind staff that they must speak in English at all times while they are at work, in order that they can be understood by all members of staff; this includes any personal conversations that may be taking place during work time.”


Is that why they apologized to the Welsh workers Syl.

The above is opening the door to discrimination cases and I hope they lose them all.

As private conversations are not a health and safety issue or a problem to the business.

They would get taken to the cleaners on this through discrimination.

As they would have no right to enforce this.

Already this is happening


The Welsh language commissioner is set to investigate whether any rules had been broken under the Welsh Language Measure 2011, which protects and encourages the use of Welsh.

Perhaps its been handled less than politely, ...but it'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.

Personally I still think (even after taking in everyones opposing views) that they were right. Cool

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:01 pm

Anyway, the notice didn't mention Welsh, it just said "languages other than English".

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Thorin wrote:


Is that why they apologized to the Welsh workers Syl.

The above is opening the door to discrimination cases and I hope they lose them all.

As private conversations are not a health and safety issue or a problem to the business.

They would get taken to the cleaners on this through discrimination.

As they would have no right to enforce this.

Already this is happening


The Welsh language commissioner is set to investigate whether any rules had been broken under the Welsh Language Measure 2011, which protects and encourages the use of Welsh.

Perhaps its been handled less than politely, ...but it'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.

Personally I still think (even after taking in everyones opposing views) that they were right. Cool


Yes, Like i say, lets hope they get taken to the cleaners and now lose loads of business to other competitors.

It would serve them right   Laughing

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:02 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:In retail, people have to work as a team. I don't mean they're all doing the same thing at the same time, but it's a fast-moving business generally, and everyone needs to understand all the little things which go wrong, or right.

If I'm having a conversation with someone at work, someone generally comes up and joins in, and that's fine with me. If I want a really personal conversation, I'll wait until after work, or go somewhere private.



Why is that amusing? Do you broadcast your personal life to anyone who'll listen?

Oh wait - yes you do - all over this forum, and then you complain when someone mentions it.

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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:03 pm

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That sounds highly socialist, Raggs.  Feelings...it's social theory, at least.  Have you switched sides? Laughing

I just understand the importance of work relationships and teams.

So do I....good relationships amongst staff makes for a good atmosphere, which is more productive and beneficial to everyone concerned.

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I just understand the importance of work relationships and teams.

So do I....good relationships amongst staff makes for a good atmosphere, which is more productive and beneficial to everyone concerned.

Exactly, and in retail there needs to be a good atmosphere.

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Raggamuffin wrote:Anyway, the notice didn't mention Welsh, it just said "languages other than English".




That is twice you cocked up in the last two posts


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Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Anyway, the notice didn't mention Welsh, it just said "languages other than English".




That is twice you cocked up in the last two posts


How?

Where does it mention Welsh in the notice?

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Syl wrote:
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I just understand the importance of work relationships and teams.

So do I....good relationships amongst staff makes for a good atmosphere, which is more productive and beneficial to everyone concerned.


So why would there not be a good atmosphere, if sometimes some staff have private conversations?

You keep coming out with such babble Syl.

The only way that there would be a bad atmosphere is people did not get on.

Not that sometimes people had private conversations in English or not.

Even rags showed a double standard by saying she would exclude people by having a private conversation somewhere private at work.

So the point being made by you is a piss poor excuse.

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Thorin wrote:




That is twice you cocked up in the last two posts


How?

Where does it mention Welsh in the notice?


It was sent to stores in Wales.



You do realise that the Welsh language is not English?

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Thorin wrote:
Syl wrote:

So do I....good relationships amongst staff makes for a good atmosphere, which is more productive and beneficial to everyone concerned.


So why would there not be a good atmosphere, if sometimes some staff have private conversations?

You keep coming out with such babble Syl.

The only way that there would be a bad atmosphere is people did not get on.

Not that sometimes people had private conversations in English or not.

Even rags showed a double standard by saying she would exclude people by having a private conversation somewhere private at work.

So the point being made by you is a piss poor excuse.

WTF? I wouldn't be excluding anyone if I was outside of work talking to a work mate with none of the others around. Now I know you're just trolling like the idiot you are.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:09 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

How?

Where does it mention Welsh in the notice?


It was sent to stores in Wales.



You do realise that the Welsh language is not English?

Are you suggesting that people only speak English or Welsh in Wales, and that nobody from any other country ever goes to work there?

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Thorin wrote:


So why would there not be a good atmosphere, if sometimes some staff have private conversations?

You keep coming out with such babble Syl.

The only way that there would be a bad atmosphere is people did not get on.

Not that sometimes people had private conversations in English or not.

Even rags showed a double standard by saying she would exclude people by having a private conversation somewhere private at work.

So the point being made by you is a piss poor excuse.

WTF? I wouldn't be excluding anyone if I was outside of work talking to a work mate with none of the others around. Now I know you're just trolling like the idiot you are.


That is not what you finished with


Raggamuffin wrote:I'll wait until after work, or go somewhere private

So you would speak at work excluding others

Hence the double standard

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Thorin wrote:


It was sent to stores in Wales.



You do realise that the Welsh language is not English?

Are you suggesting that people only speak English or Welsh in Wales, and that nobody from any other country ever goes to work there?

Where did I claim any of the above?

Never did.

The memo was sent around the UK and was thus sent to stores in Wales, which would mean they could not speak Welsh and only English.

Thus effecting welsh workers in Wales who spoke liked to speak Welsh

Doh


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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:12 pm

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So do I....good relationships amongst staff makes for a good atmosphere, which is more productive and beneficial to everyone concerned.


So why would there not be a good atmosphere, if sometimes some staff have private conversations?

You keep coming out with such babble Syl.

The only way that there would be a bad atmosphere is people did not get on.

Not that sometimes people had private conversations in English or not.

Even rags showed a double standard by saying she would exclude people by having a private conversation somewhere private at work.

So the point being made by you is a piss poor excuse.

Obviously some people have complained....else why would the notice have gone up in the first place?
If people are complaining about other workers the atmosphere wont be great will it?


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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:14 pm

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WTF? I wouldn't be excluding anyone if I was outside of work talking to a work mate with none of the others around. Now I know you're just trolling like the idiot you are.


That is not what you finished with


Raggamuffin wrote:I'll wait until after work, or go somewhere private

So you would speak at work excluding others

Hence the double standard

There's no double standard at all. The notice made it clear that it only related to work times. Obviously, if I had an issue at work and needed to speak to the Manager in private, I'd go somewhere private. Are you really that stupid that you don't even understand that?

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:14 pm

Syl wrote:
Thorin wrote:


So why would there not be a good atmosphere, if sometimes some staff have private conversations?

You keep coming out with such babble Syl.

The only way that there would be a bad atmosphere is people did not get on.

Not that sometimes people had private conversations in English or not.

Even rags showed a double standard by saying she would exclude people by having a private conversation somewhere private at work.

So the point being made by you is a piss poor excuse.

Obviously some people have complained....else why would the notice have gone up in the first place?
If people are complaining about other workers the atmosphere wont be great will it?



Ahhhhh bless their cotton little socks

I would bet it was down to pure ignorance

Are then those complaining not the problem like I said?

A minority causing all the problems?

Like i say, you bow down to those who take offense, you open the door to a world of shit.


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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:15 pm

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Are you suggesting that people only speak English or Welsh in Wales, and that nobody from any other country ever goes to work there?

Where did I claim any of the above?

Never did.

The memo was sent around the UK and was thus sent to stores in Wales, which would mean they could not speak Welsh and only English.

Thus effecting welsh workers in Wales who spoke liked to speak Welsh

Doh

They can speak in English though. Why would they want to be rude to their co-employees? It's not discriminating against Welsh-speaking people in particular because they don't allow any language other than English.

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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:16 pm

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That is not what you finished with




So you would speak at work excluding others

Hence the double standard

There's no double standard at all. The notice made it clear that it only related to work times. Obviously, if I had an issue at work and needed to speak to the Manager in private, I'd go somewhere private. Are you really that stupid that you don't even understand that?

You admitted to speaking privately at work, within a private area, thus excluding.

Now you move the goal posts about speaking to a manager, after being caught out

Priceless

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:16 pm

Anyway, I agree with Sports Direct on this occasion, and anyone who gets nasty about that is just being intolerant of other people's views.

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:17 pm

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There's no double standard at all. The notice made it clear that it only related to work times. Obviously, if I had an issue at work and needed to speak to the Manager in private, I'd go somewhere private. Are you really that stupid that you don't even understand that?

You admitted to speaking privately at work, within a private area, thus excluding.

Now you move the goal posts about speaking to a manager, after being caught out

Priceless

Clearly, you don't understand English, so it's no wonder you're against this - they would ban gobbledygook, and you'd be in the shit then.

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:17 pm

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Obviously some people have complained....else why would the notice have gone up in the first place?
If people are complaining about other workers the atmosphere wont be great will it?



Ahhhhh bless their cotton little socks

I would bet it was down to pure ignorance

Are then those complaining not the problem like I said?

A minority causing all the problems?

Like i say, you bow down to those who take offense, you open the door to a world of shit.


Why do you presume its a minority?
The vast MAJORITY of people in Wales don't speak Welsh.

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:18 pm

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Where did I claim any of the above?

Never did.

The memo was sent around the UK and was thus sent to stores in Wales, which would mean they could not speak Welsh and only English.

Thus effecting welsh workers in Wales who spoke liked to speak Welsh

Doh

They can speak in English though. Why would they want to be rude to their co-employees? It's not discriminating against Welsh-speaking people in particular because they don't allow any language other than English.

Here we go again with being offended as you claim its rude that they speak in their own language.

Shades of Majority Islamic countries trying to make it an offence to be critical off islam.

Here we have the same babble. That people are being forced to only speak English or lose their job, as its become an offense.

Again you are the problem

They have every right to speak welsh in private conversations.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:19 pm

Clearly, they're talking about people speaking another language on the shop floor or in the stock room, etc - only an idiot would misunderstand that.

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:19 pm

Syl wrote:
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Ahhhhh bless their cotton little socks

I would bet it was down to pure ignorance

Are then those complaining not the problem like I said?

A minority causing all the problems?

Like i say, you bow down to those who take offense, you open the door to a world of shit.


Why do you presume its a minority?
The vast MAJORITY of people in Wales don't speak Welsh.

Exactly Syl.

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Re: Sports Direct Slammed After Notice Appears To Ban Workers From Speaking Welsh

Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:20 pm

Syl wrote:
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Ahhhhh bless their cotton little socks

I would bet it was down to pure ignorance

Are then those complaining not the problem like I said?

A minority causing all the problems?

Like i say, you bow down to those who take offense, you open the door to a world of shit.


Why do you presume its a minority?
The vast MAJORITY of people in Wales don't speak Welsh.

Can you show me its a majority that called for this or even if anyone complained?

This was born from ignorance as has been the arguments from yourself, Rags and Horatio, as they are born from intolerance.


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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Clearly, they're talking about people speaking another language on the shop floor or in the stock room, etc - only an idiot would misunderstand that.

So what, if the problem is speaking on the shop floor.

Then why are you not backing banning any private conversations.??

You see your view is one of prejudice do you not, if they are having a private conversation.


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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:25 pm

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Why do you presume its a minority?
The vast MAJORITY of people in Wales don't speak Welsh.

Can you show me its a majority that called for this or even if anyone complained?

This was born from ignorance as has been the arguments from yourself, Rags and Horatio, as they are born from intolerance.


Can you show me that only a minority objected?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:25 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:Clearly, they're talking about people speaking another language on the shop floor or in the stock room, etc - only an idiot would misunderstand that.

So what, if the problem is speaking on the shop floor.

Then why are you not backing banning any private conversations.??

You see your view is one of prejudice do you not, if they are having a private conversation.


You're just repeating yourself Didge. I already told you - those who only speak English wouldn't know if it was a private conversation or not, and therefore, they would think they might be missing some work-related issue, which could involve health and safety. It's also rude to speak a different language in front of others if they don't understand.

You're the prejudiced one - you are prejudiced against those who want to work in harmony, and you defend those who go against that.

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:27 pm

notice those agreeing with this are women?

i reckon there are interesting psychosocial observations to be had from that Laughing


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