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Can chicken soup for breakfast really beat arthritis in children?

Post by HoratioTarr on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:12 pm



When Gadget Show presenter Jason Bradbury watched his five-year-old daughter Marnie struggling to climb the stairs, he was naturally concerned. A few weeks before, Marnie had contracted a virus at school which had, it seemed, been nothing unusual. But when Marnie’s knees and wrists began to swell, she lost flexibility in her joints and tired easily, the family decided it was time to seek specialist help.
To their shock, rheumatologists at Great Ormond Street Hospital diagnosed juvenile idiopathic arthritis (JIA) – inflammation of the joints caused by the immune system attacking the body.
Treating the condition involves taking immuno-suppressant drugs which have potentially severe side effects if used long-term.
The family decided instead to investigate alternative ways to maintain Marnie’s health, and it prompted a profound change in the family’s lives.
After rejecting one type of conventional drug therapy, Marnie’s mother Claire left her job as a project manager and retrained as a nutritionist – and put together a diet that involved Marnie sipping chicken-bone broth for breakfast. Remarkably, it may have worked. Marnie, 12, takes no drugs and has had no symptoms for two-and- a-half years. Her family believe this is thanks to her lifestyle.
In fact, Marnie’s fitness has improved so dramatically that she will compete in her first triathlon – a long-distance race that involves cycling, running and swimming – in November, on the Caribbean paradise island of Nevis.
About 12,000 children in the UK have JIA. The cause is unknown, although infections may trigger the immune system to become over-active in some people, which in turn can lead to inflammation.






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Post by eddie on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:14 pm

Is there a gelatin-type substance to be found in chicken bones? That's the only thing I can think of that would make sense.

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:25 am

eddie wrote:Is there a gelatin-type substance to be found in chicken bones? That's the only thing I can think of that would make sense.

Yes. It's to do with the cartilage and bone. The collagen in bone broth heals your gut lining and reduces intestinal inflammation. And the minerals in the bone support the immune system.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:42 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:Is there a gelatin-type substance to be found in chicken bones? That's the only thing I can think of that would make sense.

Yes.  It's to do with the cartilage and bone.   The collagen in bone broth heals your gut lining and reduces intestinal inflammation.   And the minerals in the bone support the immune system.    


GOSH paediatric rheumatologist Dr Nathan Hasson said: ‘Of course, a healthy diet is beneficial to everyone but if diet was a convincing factor in treating JIA, we would recommend it.
‘I only know one case out of thousands still getting flare-ups in adulthood.’
Dr Lucy Wedderburn, director of Arthritis Research UK’s Centre for Adolescent Rheumatology, added: ‘There may be links between the balance of gut bacteria we all live with and arthritis, and we are investigating this topic. So far we really don’t know.’


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Re: Can chicken soup for breakfast really beat arthritis in children?

Post by Original Quill on Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:04 pm



And the kids like them more!


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Re: Can chicken soup for breakfast really beat arthritis in children?

Post by eddie on Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:04 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
eddie wrote:Is there a gelatin-type substance to be found in chicken bones? That's the only thing I can think of that would make sense.

Yes.  It's to do with the cartilage and bone.   The collagen in bone broth heals your gut lining and reduces intestinal inflammation.   And the minerals in the bone support the immune system.    


It must be similar to the gellatin powder that my friend's husband takes. He has terrible bone and joint problems and he swears by it.

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Re: Can chicken soup for breakfast really beat arthritis in children?

Post by Cass on Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:18 pm

Interesting. For a while I was having severe upper arm issues with a combo of tendinitis and bursitis in both arms and a mate told me about green-lipped mussel pills. Good for anti-inflammatory purposes. That combined with acupuncture and very deep painful tissue massage seems to have helped. Haven't done any of it for about 3 months and it's starting to come back.

Bone broth is the new fancier chicken soup. I don't think it's a cure but I think certain elements within do help.

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Re: Can chicken soup for breakfast really beat arthritis in children?

Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:12 pm

Cass wrote:Interesting. For a while I was having severe upper arm issues with a combo of tendinitis and bursitis in both arms and a mate told me about green-lipped mussel pills. Good for anti-inflammatory purposes. That combined with acupuncture and very deep painful tissue massage seems to have helped. Haven't done any of it for about 3 months and it's starting to come back.

Bone broth is the new fancier chicken soup. I don't think it's a cure but I think certain elements within do help.

Chicken soup as a remedy for colds and illness is old as the hills. Most people seem to think a can of chicken soup does the same thing but you need to boil the whole carcass for a couple of hours.

You'd probably benefit from regular massage. I have several clients who've suffered with terrible back pain, specially between the shoulders and neck. After several sessions they're much better but if they miss a few sessions they really feel it. Try taking freshly ground turmeric but ensure you mix it with oil first before you take it. It's a very powerful anti inflammatory as is ginger.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:53 pm

Chicken would be out for me, as would any kind of gelatin, which is usually in marshmallows.

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Post by Cass on Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:20 am

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Cass wrote:Interesting. For a while I was having severe upper arm issues with a combo of tendinitis and bursitis in both arms and a mate told me about green-lipped mussel pills. Good for anti-inflammatory purposes. That combined with acupuncture and very deep painful tissue massage seems to have helped. Haven't done any of it for about 3 months and it's starting to come back.

Bone broth is the new fancier chicken soup. I don't think it's a cure but I think certain elements within do help.

Chicken soup as  a remedy for colds and illness is old as the hills.   Most people seem to think a can of chicken soup does the same thing but you need to boil the whole carcass for a couple of hours.  

You'd probably benefit from regular massage.   I have several clients who've suffered with terrible back pain, specially between the shoulders and neck.   After several sessions they're much better but if they miss a few sessions they really feel it.    Try taking freshly ground turmeric but ensure you mix it with oil first before you take it.   It's a very powerful anti inflammatory as is ginger.

Exactly. Good old fashioned home made. Roasting the bones first really helps too.

I'm going tomorrow. I need to get back into the habit of once a month massage. I also find reflexology very helpful too. My son got me a TENS unit at Christmas and that helps but again it's getting back into the habit. My C7 is cracked - no accident/not born that way , but head banging lol. Honest truth.

Yes about the turmeric and ginger. Cinnamon too. Again...broke the habit...blah blah blah. The last 6 months have been a right kerfuffle.

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Post by Cass on Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:21 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Chicken would be out for me, as would any kind of gelatin, which is usually in marshmallows.

Are you a vegetarian Raggs? I forget.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:49 pm

Cass wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Chicken would be out for me, as would any kind of gelatin, which is usually in marshmallows.

Are you a vegetarian Raggs? I forget.

No - I eat fish but not any other kind of meat.

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Post by Cass on Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cass wrote:

Are you a vegetarian Raggs? I forget.

No - I eat fish but not any other kind of meat.

Ah ok. Not sure if fish bones would be the same as meat bones.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:36 pm

Cass wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No - I eat fish but not any other kind of meat.

Ah ok. Not sure if fish bones would be the same as meat bones.

Probably not. I just take drugs. Laughing

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Post by Cass on Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:39 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cass wrote:

Ah ok. Not sure if fish bones would be the same as meat bones.

Probably not. I just take drugs. Laughing

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:30 am

Cass wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Cass wrote:

Are you a vegetarian Raggs? I forget.

No - I eat fish but not any other kind of meat.

Ah ok. Not sure if fish bones would be the same as meat bones.

depends on the bones and how much cartilage.
this is the reason for shark fin soup (shark fins are a lump of cartilage gelatin)
also why 'joint' bones work better to make broth

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