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Resolution on Richard Dawkins- Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Post by Thorin on Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:59 am

Resolution on Richard Dawkins


The International Conference on Free Expression and Conscience in London, the largest gathering of ex-Muslims in history, is concerned that Richard Dawkins, an invited speaker at the conference, has been de-platformed by the radio station KPFA in Berkeley, California because of his alleged “hurtful” comments on Islam.

Professor Dawkins is a well known critic of all religions, whose long-standing attacks on Christianity have never resulted in anything approaching de-platforming. Indeed he has aired his views on KPFA itself. Belatedly, KPFA seems to have noticed that Islam is not exempt from his criticism. They have applied a hypocritical double standard in cancelling his appearance in Berkeley, and have disappointed the large numbers of people who had bought tickets to hear him.

Given that most of the speakers and delegates at our conference are Islam’s apostates, many from countries where the legal penalty for apostasy is death, we find it necessary to remind KPFA that criticism of Islam is no different from criticism of Christianity or Judaism. Also, criticism of Islamism is no different from criticism of the Christian-Right, Jewish-Right or Hindu-Right. Criticism of religious ideas as well as violent religious political movements isn’t bigotry but integral to free conscience and expression and vital for human progress.

We call on those – like KPFA – who should be our natural allies and ‘progressives’ whose freedoms and rights are largely the result of the fight against the church and Christianity not to betray or deny the same right to Islam’s critics, non believers, and dissenters.

Progressive politics means fighting on many fronts, including against bigotry, xenophobia, the far-Right, which includes Islamism, and for freedom of conscience and expression.


Read the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain’s full statement.

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Re: Resolution on Richard Dawkins- Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Post by Thorin on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:31 am

Richard Dawkins has denied using “abusive speech against Islam” after a California radio station cancelled a book event with the scientist, citing his comments on Islam, which it said had “offended and hurt … so many people”.

Dawkins, whose bestselling study of evolution, The Selfish Gene, was named the most influential science book of all time by the Royal Society last week, was lined up to speak about his memoir A Brief Candle in the Dark at an event hosted by Berkeley’s KPFA Radio in August.

But KPFA subsequently informed ticketbuyers that the event had been cancelled. “We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt – in his tweets and other comments on Islam – so many people. KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech,” said KPFA in an email to ticket buyers, which Dawkins later published on his website. “While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech. We apologise for not having had broader knowledge of Dawkins’s views much earlier. We also apologise to all those inconvenienced by this cancellation.”

Dawkins, the author of anti-religious polemic The God Delusion, called the decision “truly astonishing”, and a “matter of personal sorrow”. He had listened to KPFA “almost every day” when he lived in Berkeley for two years, he said, and had previously been grateful for its “objective reporting and humane commentary”.

“My memory of KPFA is that you were unusually scrupulous about fact-checking. I especially admired your habit of always quoting sources,” he wrote to KPFA in an open letter he shared on his website. “You conspicuously did not quote a source when accusing me of ‘abusive speech’. Why didn’t you check your facts – or at least have the common courtesy to alert me – before summarily cancelling my event?”

Dawkins said that he had “never used abusive speech against Islam”, adding that while he has called Islamism “vile”, Islamism is not the same as Islam.

“I have criticised the appalling misogyny and homophobia of Islam, I have criticised the murdering of apostates for no crime other than their disbelief. Far from attacking Muslims, I understand – as perhaps you do not – that Muslims themselves are the prime victims of the oppressive cruelties of Islamism, especially Muslim women,” wrote the author in his response. “I am known as a frequent critic of Christianity and have never been de-platformed for that. Why do you give Islam a free pass? Why is it fine to criticise Christianity but not Islam?”

He called on the radio station to find examples of abuse, and said that when it “fail[ed] to discover any”, he would expect a public apology.

Harvard professor and author Steven Pinker came out in support of Dawkins, writing to KPFA that their decision was “intolerant, ill-reasoned, and ignorant”. “Dawkins is one of the great thinkers of the 20th and 21st century. He has criticised doctrines of Islam, together with doctrines of other religions, but criticism is not ‘abuse’,” said Pinker. “People may get offended and hurt by honest criticism, but that cannot possibly be a justification for censoring the critic, or KPFA would be shut down because of all the people it has hurt and offended over the decades.”

Pinker said that the move “handed a precious gift to the political right, who can say that left-leaning media outlets enforce mindless conformity to narrow dogma, and are no longer capable of thinking through basic intellectual distinctions”.

The Center for Inquiry, which merged with the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science last year, and on whose board of directors Dawkins sits, called the cancellation “unconscionable [and] baseless”. KPFA responded to the Center on Twitter and said that it “exercises its free-speech right not to participate with anyone who uses hateful language against a community already under attack”.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/24/richard-dawkins-event-cancelled-over-his-abusive-speech-against-islam


What next, are they going to ban viewing of the film "Dogma" and "The Life of Brian"?

This is what is wrong with some of the left today, they are illiberal's and defend oppressive religious beliefs. Correction, they only defend one oppressive religion from one ideology. They happily and rightfully are critical of other oppressive religious beliefs from other religions.

Double standards.


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Re: Resolution on Richard Dawkins- Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Post by Thorin on Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:41 am

Best quote made on this:

"KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech."

Snowflake protection society?

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Re: Resolution on Richard Dawkins- Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:32 pm

Smile

This brand of intolerance, as displayed by the management of this radio station --  shutting down free speech and denying either science or environmental angles, populist rhetoric or alternative viewpoints (and often without considering any and all relevent facts -- but only acting on 'hearsay') --  isn't confined to only the "loony left"...

It can also be seen with right wing extremists, assorted "snowflakes" from all political and religious backgrounds, corporate shills and profesional denialists, or the likes of "femi-nazis" or "concealed carry/open carry gun nuts" at various times..

All of whom are quite prepared to take control or gain undue influence within radio stations, newspapers, community groups, trade unions or activist groups, when the opportunity arises.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.."

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Re: Resolution on Richard Dawkins- Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Post by Thorin on Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:55 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Smile

This brand of intolerance, as displayed by the management of this radio station --  shutting down free speech and denying either science or environmental angles, populist rhetoric or alternative viewpoints (and often without considering any and all relevent facts --  but only acting on 'hearsay') --  isn't confined to only the "loony left"...

It can also be seen with right wing extremists, assorted "snowflakes" from all political and religious backgrounds, corporate shills and profesional denialists, or the likes of "femi-nazis" or "concealed carry/open carry gun nuts" at various times..

All of whom are quite prepared to take control or gain undue influence within radio stations, newspapers, community groups, trade unions or activist groups, when the opportunity arises.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.."


Its getting ridiculous Wolf.
All people should be welcome to speak no matter their views. Its about challenging poor views that effect the well being and equality of others.

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