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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:10 am

A nurse has revealed she was charged £80 for parking, on top of parking fees already docked from her wages, because she stayed after her shift as her patient went into cardiac arrest. Susanna Reid and Piers Morgan described her tale as "extraordinary" and "outrageous" as the extent of parking fines which hit nurses across the UK is revealed.

Sally Plummer told Good Morning Britain: "We would have a certain amount of money taken out of our wages which wasn't a problem, we didn't mind alongside other hospital staff paying for parking.

"But you're not guaranteed a parking space so therefore have to park in public parking spaces.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/19/nurse-reveals-left-nhs-charged-80-parking-treated-patient-having/

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:12 am

Sounds like good grounds for an appeal. Perhaps she could do herself and her co-workers a favor, and take it up on appeal on grounds of 'emergency circumstances' or 'unavoidable collateral consequences'.

She's done well to take it public. Now make it a legal cause.

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Re: Nurse reveals she left the NHS after being charged £80 for parking as she treated patient having cardiac arrest

Post by sassy on Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:53 am

They already have and they lost the case

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/more-70-doctors-nurses-taken-13338896

Doctors and nurses have been ordered to pay £68,000 after losing a court battle over parking tickets issued at Wales’ largest hospital.

More than 70 doctors and nurses are affected and have reportedly been landed with fines of £39,000 and court costs of £29,000.

Sue Prior, of Taff Ely Parking Action Group, has been helping employees at the University Hospital of Wales (UHW) in Cardiff who have been fighting parking fines issued by private enforcement firm Indigo.

But that fight was lost on Friday at Cardiff’s civil justice court.

“The case was a three-day trial in the small claims court,” she said.

“There were three lead cases and the result was binding on 72 others. That means everyone has got to pay. This subset is worth £39,000.”

On top of that they have been ordered to stump up £29,000 in court costs. That works out as an average bill of more than £900 for each doctor and nurse affected by the judgement.

“They have got to pay or they end up with CCJs (County Court Judgements),” Ms Prior added.

“The cost per ticket is £128 so what they have to pay depends on how many tickets they have.”

It is now feared other members of staff could face further civil action over other outstanding unpaid parking tickets.

“We have had people going in and handing their notice in,” Ms Prior said.

“The judge made them all worth £128 a ticket and all enforceable. The money machine has started.”

The action group has also criticised the hospital health board.

“They have permitted a private parking company to do this. There is no common sense anywhere. At the moment we just need to sit back and assess what we are going to do because it costs money to appeal. It was like David and Goliath – and David lost.”

One nurse, who wished to remain anonymous, dubbed the outcome “devastating”.

“We heard yesterday that we are now personally accountable for thousands of pounds of hiked up car parking fees for a car park where the majority can’t even get a permit to park,” the staff member said.

“Personally, I am a nurse and a single parent. I had to move back to live with my parents due to financial difficulties.

“I already have hefty debt and am in a debt management scheme, but this is the final nail in the coffin.

“How are we supposed to do our jobs properly if we are constantly worrying about these extortionate car parking fees?

“I have no idea how I will pay the costs and am distressed beyond belief.”

A spokesman for parking firm Indigo said: “In April last year, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and Indigo agreed a new set of measures to improve car parking on the University Hospital of Wales site.

“As a gesture of goodwill towards car park users, parking charge notices issued up to the end of March 2016 were cancelled.

“In addition, the cost of a PCN (Parking Charge Notice) was reduced to £10, if paid within 14 days. Despite this, a number of people refused to pay for parking at the site. They also ignored the resulting PCNs and declined to use the formal appeals process.”

The spokesman said the court hearing related to three individuals who had in excess of 100 PCNs between them since April 2016.

“As the company responsible for managing parking and ensuring the free flow of traffic at Cardiff UHW, we have an obligation to ensure enforcement of parking restrictions,” the spokeswoman said.

“For this reason, and with the full support of the health board, we took the strongest possible action against this small group of persistent offenders.

“The court’s ruling has justified our decision to take this action and we hope this sends a clear message to users of the car parks at Cardiff UHW that they follow the terms and conditions for parking.”

Cardiff and Vale University Health Board said it was “disappointing” that a small number of staff refused to co-operate with parking rules.

A spokesman said: “The vast majority of over 98% of staff comply with the parking regulations.

“It is disappointing that a few people have chosen to refuse to co-operate with the contractors Indigo Parking Services UK and have chosen to pursue this through the courts.

“All staff and others visiting University Hospital Wales are encouraged to comply with the parking regulations in order for us to keep the site, safe, free- flowing and allow access to emergency vehicles and vital health services.”

The spokesman added: “As a Health Board we have worked tirelessly on our sustainability plans and offering alternative modes of transport to the site, such as a park and ride scheme, already in operation and future re- development of a travel hub.

“We will continue to develop these options and encourage all staff and patients to use them.

“We are aware there are significant financial costs and the financial hardship the staff have placed themselves in.

“We encourage all staff to engage with Indigo Car Parking Service UK at the earliest opportunity to avoid mounting legal and court costs.

“A high proportion our staff are involved in front line clinical duties.

“We have arrangements in place for vital services that require easy access quickly such as on call surgeons and midwives and those whose skills are required urgently for patient care.

“The vast majority of posts are covered by shift patterns and rotas that do not require the level of urgency claimed.”

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/more-70-doctors-nurses-taken-13338896

One of Labour's election pledges was to stop parking being run by private companies to make a profit, it's disgusting.

Nurses and doctors will leave the NHS because of this, and we need every one of them.

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Re: Nurse reveals she left the NHS after being charged £80 for parking as she treated patient having cardiac arrest

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:57 am

In this case the general car parks are also run by the hospitals. Hence how they take the money out of their wages.

The issue here is that they should never be charged if using the public car park.

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Post by sassy on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:01 am


"But you're not guaranteed a parking space so therefore have to park in public parking spaces.



And that is where she got the fines.



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Re: Nurse reveals she left the NHS after being charged £80 for parking as she treated patient having cardiac arrest

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:02 am

sassy wrote:
"But you're not guaranteed a parking space so therefore have to park in public parking spaces.



And that is where she got the fines.




Yes but they are also run by the hospital as why would she pay the fine through a loss in her pay?

Its the same at the hospital I work at. The NHS have staff you give out tickets

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:13 am



It also says in the report that the "public" carpark is managed by a private contractor (some shopping centres down here do the same thing --  employ outside companies to manage their nominally "customer parking" areas --  and have run into similar problems with excessive and unfair "fines" against people who didn't actually do anything wrong..).

I should think that the hospital staff there should have a legitimate reason to threaten industrial action against the hospital, on the grounds of stupidity, bullying and unfair behaviour by the hospital's administration  ?

As for that so-called "Small Claims Court" --  it also seems to be "owned" by private interests --  placing business greed above individuals rights, and actually doing the right thing..     Suspect


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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:17 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
It also says in the report that the "public" carpark is managed by a private contractor (some shopping centres down here do the same thing --  employ outside companies to manage their nominally "customer parking" areas --  and have run into similar problems with excessive and unfair fines..).

I should think that the hospital staff should have a legitimate reason to threaten industrial action against the hospital, on the grounds of stupidity, bullying and unfair behaviour by the hospital's administration  ?

As for that so-called "Small Claims Court" --  it also seems to be "owned" by private interests --  placing business greed above individuals rights, and actually doing the right thing..

The money made though is by the hospital. There are many private companies that carry out these roles today.

I agree its wrong that they should ever even receive a fine, if they are staff and need to park in the public car park. If they then get a ticket, this should be automatically dismissed on proving that they are staff.

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:39 pm

they should all abandon the hospital until the situation is fixed.
Government has to learn a lesson, they exist to provide a service they are not getting paid for shit and giggles.

Park and ride schemes are fails, the person that approved that should be forced to pay all the fines.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:19 am

I've been reading about this. Some nurses owe thousands in fines and court fees. They're obviously not going to be able to pay.

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