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Dr Who

Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:16 pm

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Few TV casting announcements can have been as long awaited as the name of Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord and when the revelation finally came it sent social media into a frenzy.
Hundreds of thousands of people around the world joined the debate about the news that Jodie Whittaker is to star as the first female Doctor.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40626224


More lefty pc nonsense... why cant they just leave things alone...?


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Re: Dr Who

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:21 pm

I must admit I did not see that

But my point still stands

Can the doctor change forms on regeneration?

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Can this be anything?

Yes

Does that mean female?

Yes

Does your part even show female Time Lords in what you posted?

Yes

Dont you look a wally

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:28 pm

There are males and females... Dr Who is a male!!!


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Re: Dr Who

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:There are males and females... Dr Who is a male!!!



Who as seen can regenerate into being a female

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Post by Syl on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:38 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Syl wrote:I tend to agree with Tommy...Dr Who should be played by a male actor....just as James Bond should always be played by a white male actor.
Some characters... whether that's the way they are written as in the case of Bond, or just by the way they have always been known as...shouldn't be changed just for the sake of it.

James Bond isn't a science-fiction alien character though is he. Although still fictional, Bond has always existed in 'our world'. He has an established backstory that really only works if he is a white male. Being black would not make sense for Bond.

The Doctor is a regenerating alien, who, canonically, could regenerate with multiple heads, no arms, tentacles or indeed be a woman (just the The Master did).

'Should' is purely subjective in this case. Altering The Doctor's gender for one of his/her regeneration cycles alters nothing in the sci-fi universe the series takes place in.

I imagine the change is being done to 'do something different'. The series has not been as successful as it was in the first ten years following its 2005 return. Naturally the people behind the show want to keep it going but know something needs to keep people hooked rather than 'more of the same'. Having a female Doctor will probably alter the dynamics a little, especially in her interactions with other characters (male, female, villains etc). That will add a new dimension and keep things interesting. It isn't just 'for the sake of being PC', that is BS. It is a show that is loved trying to stay relevant and be 'new' in an increasingly competitive market.

And it DOESN'T break the universe's continuity.

Tommy would have had the same reaction if the Doctor had regenerated as a black man, Asian man, gay man or with a disability. He obviously has no real interest in the series whatsoever.

I will bow to your superior knowledge on this Eilzel....I think the last time I watched Dr Who was when the Daleks were in it....the first time round. Laughing
I don't know the history of who Dr Who really is....I didn't even know he was a alien, I just thought he had a time machine. Embarassed

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:07 pm

Thorin wrote:
Syl wrote:I tend to agree with Tommy...Dr Who should be played by a male actor....just as James Bond should always be played by a white male actor.
Some characters... whether that's the way they are written as in the case of Bond, or just by the way they have always been known as...shouldn't be changed just for the sake of it.


Should?

Based on what exactly?

So you have no objection to a Time Lord, which can change into any life form on regeneration, as long as its male? 

Again based on what exactly?

Victorian England mentality?

Dr Who was written as an alien that changes on regeneration. Previous information provided has shown that Time Lords can change into any form and that there is already other Time Lords that have regenerated as female and male.

So it changes with every regeneration, hence the silliness of your claim to what something should be with Dr Who.

So what you and Tommy thinks really does not matter on this.

The simple answer is that if you do not like it, then that is tough luck.

Nobody is forcing either of you to watch it.

Dr Who may lose a minor amount of fans who are dinosaurs, but will no doubt gain loads of new fans.
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Sly is simply another opinionated twat with no genuine interest in, nor knowledge of the Dr Who series and fictional universe...

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As for James Bond,  James will always be a man --  but why not a "Jamie Bond" spinoff --  where an unknown/'long-lost' daughter to one of his many former foreign love-interests crops up, to be recruited into MI6  ? Could even make her black, Latino or Asian.

Now that could well be a future 'reboot' worth watching..              

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Re: Dr Who

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:30 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Should?

Based on what exactly?

So you have no objection to a Time Lord, which can change into any life form on regeneration, as long as its male? 

Again based on what exactly?

Victorian England mentality?

Dr Who was written as an alien that changes on regeneration. Previous information provided has shown that Time Lords can change into any form and that there is already other Time Lords that have regenerated as female and male.

So it changes with every regeneration, hence the silliness of your claim to what something should be with Dr Who.

So what you and Tommy thinks really does not matter on this.

The simple answer is that if you do not like it, then that is tough luck.

Nobody is forcing either of you to watch it.

Dr Who may lose a minor amount of fans who are dinosaurs, but will no doubt gain loads of new fans.
cyclops

Sly is simply another opinionated twat with no genuine interest in, nor knowledge of the Dr Who series and fictional universe...

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As for James Bond,  James will always be a man --  but why not a "Jamie Bond" spinoff --  where an unknown/'long-lost' daughter to one of his many former foreign love-interests crops up, to be recruited into MI6  ? Could even make her black, Latino or Asian.

Now that could well be a future 'reboot' worth watching..              


Well I beg to differ and think she is fab.

She has every right to her opinion, even if I disagree with her here on this.

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Post by magica on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:31 pm

I agree Thor, just because she expresses her opinion and it differs from Wolf, there's no need for insults.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:46 pm

magica wrote:I agree Thor, just because she expresses her opinion and it differs from  Wolf,  there's no need for insults.

Oh my. Insults!! That's a first on here. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:49 pm

magica wrote:I agree Thor, just because she expresses her opinion and it differs from  Wolf,  there's no need for insults.

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Agreed magica.

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Post by Syl on Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:13 pm

Thank you Thor and Mags...and because you are both so nice to me today I will refrain from answering forums answer to the village idiot. .

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Post by magica on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:04 pm

Syl wrote:Thank you Thor and Mags...and because you are both so nice to me today I will refrain from answering forums answer to the village idiot. .

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:16 pm



Did I put up enough vote choices for you all...?

Or can anyone think of any more...?

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:21 pm

Syl wrote:Thank you Thor and Mags...and because you are both so nice to me today I will refrain from answering forums answer to the village idiot. .


You are welcome Syl, but he is not an idiot and is quite intelligent, just as you are.
For some weird reason he has it in for you, of which I have no idea why.
If he stopped with his silliness, and actually engaged you properly, he would see why he is being silly.

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:39 pm

however it doesnt change the fact that he is essentially alien,,,and therfore these aliens could look humanoid and yet THEIR females could look male to us and vice-versa for the females....

for all you know the precceding doctors could ALL have been female

I mean we dont even know for sure that they have the same appendages..... scratch

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:42 pm

Lord Foul wrote:however it doesnt change the fact that he is essentially alien,,,and therfore these aliens could look humanoid and yet THEIR females could look male to us and vice-versa for the females....

for all you know the precceding doctors could ALL have been female

I mean we dont even know for sure that they have the same appendages..... scratch

Hermaphrodites?

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:43 pm

now you are getting kinky Didge...... Razz

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:46 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:
Syl wrote:I tend to agree with Tommy...Dr Who should be played by a male actor....just as James Bond should always be played by a white male actor.
Some characters... whether that's the way they are written as in the case of Bond, or just by the way they have always been known as...shouldn't be changed just for the sake of it.


Should?

Based on what exactly?

So you have no objection to a Time Lord, which can change into any life form on regeneration, as long as its male? 

Again based on what exactly?

Victorian England mentality?

Dr Who was written as an alien that changes on regeneration. Previous information provided has shown that Time Lords can change into any form and that there is already other Time Lords that have regenerated as female and male.

So it changes with every regeneration, hence the silliness of your claim to what something should be with Dr Who.

So what you and Tommy thinks really does not matter on this.

The simple answer is that if you do not like it, then that is tough luck.

Nobody is forcing either of you to watch it.

Dr Who may lose a minor amount of fans who are dinosaurs, but will no doubt gain loads of new fans.
cyclops

Sly is simply another opinionated twat with no genuine interest in, nor knowledge of the Dr Who series and fictional universe...

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As for James Bond,  James will always be a man --  but why not a "Jamie Bond" spinoff --  where an unknown/'long-lost' daughter to one of his many former foreign love-interests crops up, to be recruited into MI6  ? Could even make her black, Latino or Asian.

Now that could well be a future 'reboot' worth watching..              


that will be quite enough of that thank you wolfie......such persistant pointless and unjustified personal attacks on others will not be permitted.

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Re: Dr Who

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:04 pm

Lord Foul wrote:now you are getting kinky Didge...... Razz





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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:04 pm

Lord Foul wrote:however it doesnt change the fact that he is essentially alien,,,and therfore these aliens could look humanoid and yet THEIR females could look male to us and vice-versa for the females....

for all you know the precceding doctors could ALL have been female

I mean we dont even know for sure that they have the same appendages..... scratch


Did you read any of the long piece i posted, about Dr Who history and his relationships with women/females etc...?



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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:07 pm

so he was a male looking lesbian

I know one or two of them affraid

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:however it doesnt change the fact that he is essentially alien,,,and therfore these aliens could look humanoid and yet THEIR females could look male to us and vice-versa for the females....

for all you know the precceding doctors could ALL have been female

I mean we dont even know for sure that they have the same appendages..... scratch


Did you read any of the long piece i posted, about Dr Who history and his relationships with women/females etc...?




You mean a fictional history?

One where Time Lords can regenerate into any life form?

So are you saying a Time Lord cannot regenerate into any life form?

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:14 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so he was a male looking lesbian

I know one or two of them affraid


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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:21 pm

Lord Foul wrote:so he was a male looking lesbian

I know one or two of them affraid


No... he has been with a number of women/female Gallafrayans... and he is a grandfather...!


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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:23 pm

the term father /mother may be meaningless to an alien....

indeed they may be triploid...which would mean it would take 3 of em to produce ....

ok so sometimes even our species tries that one.........

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:15 pm

He is also half human, on his mothers side...!



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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:He is also half human, on his mothers side...!




But can the Doctor regenerate into any form?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:28 pm



Only anecdotally...!


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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:34 pm

eddie wrote:Why can't she be a woman? Not that I care either way, I stopped watching when David eye-candy Tennant left.

Man his eyes were like huge chocolate drops.


I hear that Billie Piper refers to him as 'David Ten-inch'...!


I cant think why... as he looks much more than 10 inches taller than her...!?


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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:38 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Only anecdotally...!






So you think Dr Who is based on facts then?

You do realise its all fiction Tommy?

So can the Doctor change into any form?

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