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Post by Syl on Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:15 pm

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/please-save-life-prime-minister-10738835

"Schoolboy Max Johnson has made an impassioned plea to Theresa May over his desperate need for a new heart, urging the PM: “Please change the law to save me.”
The nine-year-old, who made the emotional appeal last night, has been waiting six months for a donor as he has an enlarged heart and relies on a tiny pump in his chest to keep him alive.
The Mirror is calling on the Government to change the law on organ donation so that people are automatically potential organ donors unless they opt out, to save thousands of extra lives."




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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:38 pm

Syl wrote:
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Syl wrote:Past a certain age...(and I'm sure that would be 99% of posters here) the organs probably wouldn't get further than a students scalpel to be dissected....its a romantic notion to think that your own organs could be used inside someone else, but long term every little helps.

I'd like to donate my whole body to medical science. I quite like the idea of handsome doctors "exclaiming" over my body.... Cool

I read a book once (forgot the title) and the main characters were students in a dissecting lab. They named all the corpses and got quite attached to them as they dissected bits and pieces of their bodies....though they were also quite critical of fat or ugly corpses.
Apparently. unless the face is being disected its covered, to give the dead person some respect.....not sure if that's 100% true though.


I think that sounds comforting - that the students get attached. Perhaps it's not entirely true, but I'd like to think so.

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Post by Syl on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:29 pm

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I read a book once (forgot the title) and the main characters were students in a dissecting lab. They named all the corpses and got quite attached to them as they dissected bits and pieces of their bodies....though they were also quite critical of fat or ugly corpses.
Apparently. unless the face is being disected its covered, to give the dead person some respect.....not sure if that's 100% true though.


I think that sounds comforting - that the students get attached. Perhaps it's not entirely true, but I'd like to think so.

I think so too....I just hope my corpse is still in pretty good nick so they don't make fun.
On second thoughts....will I care? Razz

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Post by magica on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:31 pm

Syl wrote:
magica wrote:[quote="Syl"]Past a certain age...(and I'm sure that would be 99% of posters here) the organs probably wouldn't get further than a students scalpel to be dissected....its a romantic notion to think that your own organs could be used inside someone else, but long term every little helps.

Speak for yourself Suspect
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Post by magica on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:32 pm

Syl wrote:
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I think that sounds comforting - that the students get attached. Perhaps it's not entirely true, but I'd like to think so.

I think so too....I just hope my corpse is still in pretty good nick so they don't make fun.
On second thoughts....will I care? Razz

Why would it be in good nick when your'e dead, its not when alive Twisted Evil

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Post by Syl on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:38 pm

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I think so too....I just hope my corpse is still in pretty good nick so they don't make fun.
On second thoughts....will I care? Razz

Why would it be in good nick when your'e dead, its not when alive Twisted Evil

Do you mind...I'm in pretty good nick for an ageing granny.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:15 pm

Unless my imperial carcass is given regular intravenous injections of Olde Gruntfuttock's XXXX it will be no fucking use to man nor beast....

Well, maybe a desperately ill gerbil.
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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:31 am

In this materialistic world i think we need to strike a bargain over this.....

IF you leave your organs for donation/research

then for every organ so used you should get a 10% reduction in death duties.....

(I dont see too many relatives complaining then)


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Post by Syl on Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:23 pm

Lord Foul wrote:In this materialistic world i think we need to strike a bargain over this.....

IF you leave your organs for donation/research

then for every organ so used you should get a 10% reduction in death duties.....

(I dont see too many relatives complaining then)


Its a bit like selling your organs for cash...which some people have done whilst still alive.
I don't like the sound of it.

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Post by Syl on Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:29 pm

The law could soon be changed to the Opt out system. Everyone slowly dying because they desperately need a new organ must be praying it happens sooner rather than later.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/organ-donation-rules-england-scotland-wales-reform-number-10-spokesperson-theresa-may-a7817326.html

"England could follow Scotland and Wales by moving to an “opt out” system of organ donation, Downing Street has indicated.
Theresa May’s spokesperson said that the Government was “keeping a close eye” on the new policy enacted by the devolved governments to see whether it boosted donation rates."

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:31 pm



I sell my skills while I'm alive

so...

and its not as such "selling" is it?

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Post by Syl on Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:35 pm

Lord Foul wrote:

I sell my skills while I'm alive

so...

and its not as such "selling" is it?

Well it is in a way...I don't like the idea or money being involved at all.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:56 pm

Syl wrote:
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I sell my skills while I'm alive

so...

and its not as such "selling" is it?

Well it is in a way...I don't like the idea or money being involved at all.

That's the way I feel about all healthcare. Insurance is essentially a bet where all the odds are on the house. Can you imagine going in to Las Vegas and laying your liver down on the craps table?


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Post by Syl on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:23 pm

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Well it is in a way...I don't like the idea or money being involved at all.

That's the way I feel about all healthcare.  Insurance is essentially a bet where all the odds are on the house.  Can you imagine going in to Las Vegas and laying your liver down on the craps table?


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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:38 pm

He blew it all the very next day...


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Post by eddie on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:40 pm

Original Quill wrote:He blew it all the very next day...


Original Quill!!! I admonish you! Shocked

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Post by Lord Foul on Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:10 pm

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries

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Post by Syl on Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:56 pm

All parties have agreed that the 'opt out' system is a good idea....the law may be changed in the near future.
Hopefully in time to save Max. x

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Post by Syl on Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:40 pm

Syl wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/please-save-life-prime-minister-10738835

"Schoolboy Max Johnson has made an impassioned plea to Theresa May over his desperate need for a new heart, urging the PM: “Please change the law to save me.”
The nine-year-old, who made the emotional appeal last night, has been waiting six months for a donor as he has an enlarged heart and relies on a tiny pump in his chest to keep him alive.
The Mirror is calling on the Government to change the law on organ donation so that people are automatically potential organ donors unless they opt out, to save thousands of extra lives."




An update to the story of 9 year old Max Johnson who was waiting for a new heart. His story could possibly help change the law regarding opt in to opt out.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/its-best-ive-felt-whole-11091078



"Beaming with joy, Max Johnson flings his arms in the air as he tells how his heart transplant has given him an amazing new lease of life.
After waiting months for an organ donor , the nine-year-old finally had the operation that puts an end to the ­crippling cardiac illness that led to him being rushed to hospital last December.
Sitting in his private hospital room, where the Mirror was allowed special access, delighted Max declared: “It is the best I have felt in my whole life.
“I just love the way I feel. It takes a while for my heart to warm up, and cool down if I exercise. It is really weird walking around without holding ­something with my tubes on."

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