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No Tapes! Trump lies to hide the truth

Post by Original Quill on Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:40 pm

The Hill wrote:Trump: I didn’t record Comey conversations
BY JORDAN FABIAN AND ELLIOT SMILOWITZ - 06/22/17

Fake President Trump said Thursday he does not have recordings of his conversations with former FBI Director James Comey, ending weeks of speculation about whether he taped their talks.

“I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings,” Trump tweeted.

The president, however, raised the possibility that a third party could have recorded his conversations with the ousted FBI director.

“With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea whether there are ‘tapes’ or recordings of my conversations with James Comey,” he tweeted.

Trump first suggested that he may have recorded his White House conversation with Comey and others days after he fired him as FBI director.

“James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!” Trump wrote at the time.

Since the initial tweet, Trump and his staff had evaded questions on whether they secretly recorded the president’s private conversations with Comey.

The existence of such tapes would have been explosive. The discovery of a secret recording system in the White House under then-President Richard Nixon helped trigger his resignation amid the Watergate scandal.

No president since is known to have recorded conversations in the Oval Office.

During his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Comey said he hoped the tapes existed because they would vindicate his account of his interactions with Trump — and the events that led to his firing.

“Lordy, I hope there are tapes,” Comey said.

But Trump indicated the tapes might not exist during a press conference earlier this month, telling reporters, “you will be very disappointed when you hear the answer.”

- This report was updated at 1:12 p.m.

Between the lies this known liar tells, fake news, and Kellyanne Conway's 'alternate facts', one can't tell.  Best to believe the worst--that's usually what happens when Republicans are in charge.

I'm betting that there are (were) tapes, but they vindicated what Comey said to a 'T', and Trump's lawyers told him to get rid of them.

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Trump’s Addiction to Self-Destruction

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:01 am

On Thursday, the president released a statement—where else?—on Twitter.

“With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea whether there are ‘tapes’ or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings,” the president asserted.

The carefully worded statement, complete with subordinate clauses and series commas, was probably not crafted like most of Trump’s tweets are: on a whim. The impulsive tweet that compelled the president to legally indemnify himself was, however, a perfectly characteristic Trump tweet. It was a missive that was also indicative of the president’s penchant to bluff himself into dangerous corners.

“James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,” Trump tweeted on May 12. The tweet, seemingly composed for no discernable reason, is now believed to have been a response to a May 11 New York Times story. That dispatch cited conversations the former FBI director had with the president, as related to reporters by Comey’s associates, in which he described Trump’s demanding “loyalty.” If Comey had not directly leaked those conversations to reporters, he got right to work covering his hide immediately after Trump issued this threatening tweet.

In testimony before Congress, Comey said that he revealed the existence of memos he took regarding his conversations with Trump explicitly because of the “tapes” tweet. Moreover, Comey said he did so in order to compel Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to appoint a special counsel to overtake the Bureau’s investigations into the Trump campaign. Some have speculated that, based on Trump’s shifting explanations for Comey’s dismissal, the FBI director was relieved of duty because he would not publicly state that Trump was not personally under investigation, which he wasn’t. Because of the president’s paranoid, self-defeating behavior on Twitter, however, he is now personally under investigation.

This tale of self-destruction is not unfamiliar. It’s reasonably similar to the sequence of events that was set in motion as a result of a fit of presidential pique on social media involving the allegation that Barack Obama’s administration “had my ‘wires tapped.’”

That March 4 tweet compelled House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes to jump out in front of the scandalous revelations and provide the president some political cover. Seventeen days later, Nunes traveled to the White House to meet with an administration source at a secure location to review intelligence involving the “unmasking” of Trump administration associates swept up incidentally in foreign surveillance. Nunes spent the next few weeks vaguely insinuating that Trump’s tweet was accurate, leading the president to agree that he had been “vindicated” by the House chairman.

Two days later, Nunes reversed himself and the source of his information became a scandal. Just over one month after Trump’s original tweet, Nunes was compelled as a result of ethics complaints to join Attorney General Jeff Sessions in recusing himself from any investigation into the Trump campaign. Thus, only as a result of his own imprudence and urge to seek self-gratification, Donald Trump purged himself of one of his closest and most powerful allies in the House.

Republicans in Congress already have ample reason to keep their distance from the president. His determination to keep the Senate’s health-care bill at arm’s length and allow the congressional GOP to absorb all the criticism until he’s sure it’s not politically toxic should communicate to Congress that they are on their own. It is, however, Trump’s habit of setting himself on fire in moments of paranoid agitation that should give Republicans pause.

The president is not predictable, and he has a habit of making his allies fall on grenades. For now, the president has plenty of troops to call on, but he’s going to run out.


https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/donald-trump-addiction-to-self-destruction/

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Re: No Tapes! Trump lies to hide the truth

Post by eddie on Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:21 pm

(Two threads merged)

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Re: No Tapes! Trump lies to hide the truth

Post by Original Quill on Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:00 pm

All the talk is about how Trump knew he had no tapes, and what a liar he was to suggest that he (or someone) had taped the conversation between Comey and Trump.

But there's another way this could be read.  Since the suggestion of tapes, Comey has had a chance to testify.  With his story out, the pundits have had an opportunity to discuss and analyze the situation.  They have considered all sorts of theories, and the most obvious one is that Trump was obstructing justice.  Perhaps his own lawyers have confirmed this.  Trump didn't even realize that was a law, and now he's wanting to hush up the whole thing.

Now, it just could be that Trump did tape the conversation, and the tape vindicates Comey's story of what occurred.  Trump, listening to the pundits, or his lawyers, now realizes the hot legal shit he is in, and consequently, he is wanting the tapes to go away.

I believe there were tapes, and there's a false bottom in the lower right drawer.  Check it out.

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