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Post by Angry Andy on Sun May 28, 2017 9:20 pm

Changes to the pensioner  heating allowance  could kill 10,000, claims former health Minister Norman Lamb.

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That would help the conservatives budget.

Heartless as always.

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue May 30, 2017 8:37 am

Angry Andy wrote:Changes to the pensioner  heating allowance  could kill 10,000, claims former health Minister Norman Lamb.

http://dailym.ai/2rau3dp

That would help the conservatives budget.

Heartless as always.
unlike labours health policies actually killed 7000 in wales.

Are you saying that we should keep giving money to millionaires and the wealthy in the form of winter heating allowance.

the ones most likely to die are the poor, the poor are not the ones who are being targetted.
I am most amused that labour are now fighting to give scant resources to millionaires and the wealthy.

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by nicko on Tue May 30, 2017 9:55 am

My Wife and I are both Pensioners, we don't really need the Winter Fuel alowance . If we went playing Bingo every night and Foreign holidays every year then we would need it. We accept it cause it's given us.
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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by Angry Andy on Tue May 30, 2017 10:38 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:Changes to the pensioner  heating allowance  could kill 10,000, claims former health Minister Norman Lamb.

http://dailym.ai/2rau3dp

That would help the conservatives budget.

Heartless as always.
unlike labours health policies actually killed 7000 in wales.

Are you saying that we should keep giving money to millionaires and the wealthy in the form of winter heating allowance.

the ones most likely to die are the poor, the poor are not the ones who are being targetted.
I am most amused that labour are now fighting to give scant resources to millionaires and the wealthy.
More unsubstantiated  comments from dickhed.

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue May 30, 2017 1:39 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
unlike labours health policies actually killed 7000 in wales.

Are you saying that we should keep giving money to millionaires and the wealthy in the form of winter heating allowance.

the ones most likely to die are the poor, the poor are not the ones who are being targetted.
I am most amused that labour are now fighting to give scant resources to millionaires and the wealthy.
More unsubstantiated  comments from dickhed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-21867123

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/more-100000-patients-injured-killed-8796747

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/campaign-save-1000-lives-nhs-2184366?pageNumber=3

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564419/NHS-boss-ignored-email-warned-high-death-rates-alarming-waiting-times-Welsh-officials-accused-cover-not-launching-investigation.html
labour has been in charge of welsh nhs since devolution

could you point out what has been unsubstantiated.

I listened to corbyns car crash interview on womans hour today and he said millionaires would receive free child care and other benefits.

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by Angry Andy on Tue May 30, 2017 1:49 pm

You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue May 30, 2017 1:55 pm

Angry Andy wrote:You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.
yes your point? 300-400 a year over more than a decade.

are you disputing that labour has been in charge of nhs policy in wales since devolution? almost 20 years ago

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by HoratioTarr on Tue May 30, 2017 2:44 pm

Angry Andy wrote:You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.

Dates from 2013.

Professor Sir Brian Jarman, of Imperial College London, worked on a government review which will this week show that 14 hospital trusts have been responsible for up to 13,000 "excess deaths" since 2005.
He accused Labour ministers of presiding over a "denial machine" and ignoring his data on high death rates for a decade.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/heal-our-hospitals/10178552/Labours-denial-machine-over-hospital-death-rates.html

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by nicko on Tue May 30, 2017 3:08 pm

Be careful who you call a twat, it could come back and bite you on the arse !!
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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by Angry Andy on Tue May 30, 2017 3:19 pm

It wont be more painful than the bee sting I have on my forearm.
Finally dug the barb out. Boy it does tingle!

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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue May 30, 2017 3:47 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.
yes your point? 300-400 a year over more than a decade.

are you disputing that labour has been in charge of nhs policy in wales since devolution? almost 20 years ago




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Re: Tory policy could kill 10,000

Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue May 30, 2017 11:40 pm

Angry Andy wrote:You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.
300 to 400 a year over almost 20 years

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Tue May 30, 2017 11:41 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
yes your point? 300-400 a year over more than a decade.

are you disputing that labour has been in charge of nhs policy in wales since devolution? almost 20 years ago




You really are full of shit,  DYKnose...
but informed shit, unlike you, gerbil

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Wed May 31, 2017 10:12 am

Angry Andy wrote:You said Labour HAD KILLED 70O0.

Substantiate that or stfu, twat.
Mea culpa, I may have got the wales figure wrong, it was in fact 7000 deaths in england under andy burnham
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9875660/Mid-Staffs-Labour-Government-ignored-MP-requests-for-public-inquiry-into-deaths.html

it was in the low thousands in wales
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-21867123

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/10649901/NHS-accused-of-covering-up-high-death-rates-at-string-of-hospitals.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/10181220/Thousands-may-have-died-because-of-Labour-NHS-failings-Tory-MPs-claim.html

I am sure you would condemn those unnecessary deaths.
Or would you prefer to just throw around some more abuse

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