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Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by Angry Andy on Tue May 09, 2017 8:42 am

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She along with some blood lusting conservatives want to reintroduce fox hunting, which was outlawed by Blair in 2004.
Will the MP's blindly follow her say so, or follow the electorate, 84% of who support the ban.
Bitch. And lying cow.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-fox-hunting-bring-back-ban-repeal-conservative-tories-general-election-rural-vote-a7726506.html

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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 11, 2017 2:38 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
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You can be charged and prosecuted for illegal hunting as well.

http://www.huntingact.org/prosecutions/summary/

Where established hunts are prosecuted, usually as a result of surveillance by the police and organisations such as the RSPCA and the LACS, they really have no excuse;  the Master and his staff are required to know the law and should stick to it. End of story.

Dogs can legally be used to flush out foxes from cover if it is being done for pest control purposes, but the fox must then be shot by a qualified marksman. A legitimate case locally was when a very old and mangy dog fox was regularly raiding free-range poultry and game-rearing units and a local gamekeeper and his assistant flushed out the fox and shot it. Clean kill and very necessary.

One of the main reasons why police fail to prosecute is because they simply don't have the resources to cover large rural areas and, in any case, they have to give priority to crime such as murder, rape, GBH, domestic assaults, etc., etc. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue with that.

The biggest hunting crime is illegal hare-coursing, which is highly organised and is not for catching hares for food but for heavy betting on the result of the kill.

The people concerned, mainly gangs from London and travellers, are dangerous and vicious people. We get a lot of it around here...they use 4X4s to drive through standing crops in order to release their dogs, principally lurchers, and they are prepared to carry weapons to deter any farmer or landowner brave enough to confront them.

Several of my neighbours have been threatened, one with an automatic.
would they be considered working class or hooray henry's?

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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by Fred Moletrousers on Thu May 11, 2017 2:56 pm

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Where established hunts are prosecuted, usually as a result of surveillance by the police and organisations such as the RSPCA and the LACS, they really have no excuse;  the Master and his staff are required to know the law and should stick to it. End of story.

Dogs can legally be used to flush out foxes from cover if it is being done for pest control purposes, but the fox must then be shot by a qualified marksman. A legitimate case locally was when a very old and mangy dog fox was regularly raiding free-range poultry and game-rearing units and a local gamekeeper and his assistant flushed out the fox and shot it. Clean kill and very necessary.

One of the main reasons why police fail to prosecute is because they simply don't have the resources to cover large rural areas and, in any case, they have to give priority to crime such as murder, rape, GBH, domestic assaults, etc., etc. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue with that.

The biggest hunting crime is illegal hare-coursing, which is highly organised and is not for catching hares for food but for heavy betting on the result of the kill.

The people concerned, mainly gangs from London and travellers, are dangerous and vicious people. We get a lot of it around here...they use 4X4s to drive through standing crops in order to release their dogs, principally lurchers, and they are prepared to carry weapons to deter any farmer or landowner brave enough to confront them.

Several of my neighbours have been threatened, one with an automatic.
would they be considered working class or hooray henry's?

Definitely Hooray Henrys (ies?), old boy. I wouldn't like Angry Andy to think that my friends and neighbours are working class oiks, don't cha' know. After all this is prime Tory country.

The Pikeys (*) however, are not Hooray Henrys, but they are not working class either...because the buggers don't work - unless you consider doing botched-up drive-laying with tarmac they "just happen to have left over from the last job, no VAT, no receipts and no questions asked" an honest way of earning a crust.

*Before the usual suspects start screaming "racist", the word has been in use in some parts of the country, here included, for hundreds of years and is the diminutive of "pikeman"...not the soldier with a big stick with a nasty point on it, but an itinerant artisan or journeyman who travelled the turnpikes of England mending pots and pans, grinding knives and sharpening scissors.

It was only designated a "racist" slur after much lobbying by the travellers' organisation in an attempt to draw attention away from understandable complaints by folk who live in houses invariably having their tools and garden machinery nicked by people who don't live in houses.
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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 11, 2017 3:02 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
would they be considered working class or hooray henry's?

Definitely Hooray Henrys (ies?), old boy. I wouldn't like Angry Andy to think that my friends and neighbours are working class oiks, don't cha' know. After all this is prime Tory country.

The Pikeys (*) however, are not Hooray Henrys, but they are not working class either...because the buggers don't work - unless you consider doing botched-up drive-laying with tarmac they "just happen to have left over from the last job, no VAT, no receipts and no questions asked" an honest way of earning a crust.

*Before the usual suspects start screaming "racist", the word has been in use in some parts of the country, here included, for hundreds of years and is the diminutive of  "pikeman"...not the soldier with a big stick with a nasty point on it, but an itinerant artisan or journeyman who travelled the turnpikes of England mending pots and pans, grinding knives and sharpening scissors.

It was only designated a "racist" slur after much lobbying by the travellers' organisation in an attempt to draw attention away from understandable complaints by folk who live in houses invariably having their tools and garden machinery nicked by people who don't live in houses.
I was referring to horny handed sons of the soil who indulge in the traditional sport of ripping hares to pieces and punching people.
I know you are a gentleman of the highest order, now chuck another peasant on the fire and pass the port

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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 11, 2017 10:45 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You can be charged and prosecuted for illegal hunting as well.

http://www.huntingact.org/prosecutions/summary/

Where established hunts are prosecuted, usually as a result of surveillance by the police and organisations such as the RSPCA and the LACS, they really have no excuse;  the Master and his staff are required to know the law and should stick to it. End of story.

Dogs can legally be used to flush out foxes from cover if it is being done for pest control purposes, but the fox must then be shot by a qualified marksman. A legitimate case locally was when a very old and mangy dog fox was regularly raiding free-range poultry and game-rearing units and a local gamekeeper and his assistant flushed out the fox and shot it. Clean kill and very necessary.

One of the main reasons why police fail to prosecute is because they simply don't have the resources to cover large rural areas and, in any case, they have to give priority to crime such as murder, rape, GBH, domestic assaults, etc., etc. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue with that.

The biggest hunting crime is illegal hare-coursing, which is highly organised and is not for catching hares for food but for heavy betting on the result of the kill.

The people concerned, mainly gangs from London and travellers, are dangerous and vicious people. We get a lot of it around here...they use 4X4s to drive through standing crops in order to release their dogs, principally lurchers, and they are prepared to carry weapons to deter any farmer or landowner brave enough to confront them.

Several of my neighbours have been threatened, one with an automatic.

At least hare coursing is relative easy to monitor - easier than fox hunting. They're generally in one place so the perpetrators can be rounded up by the police - if there are enough police officers of course. Illegal hare coursing is known about and it is stopped.


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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 11, 2017 10:46 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
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You can be charged and prosecuted for illegal hunting as well.

http://www.huntingact.org/prosecutions/summary/
yes you can, but hunts do not kill foxes with dogs except by accident, the fox is shot.,

I don't understand your point. If hunts keep on killing foxes with dogs "by accident", the law needs to be firmed up, not repealed.

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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by nicko on Fri May 12, 2017 6:11 am

What does "bastard" Corbyn think about this?
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Re: Bastard May want to reintroduce fox hunting.

Post by sassy on Fri May 12, 2017 6:24 am

JC is against any animal cruelty, including foxhunting, it's only may with her professed christian vales that thinks hunting a terrified animal to exhaustion and then ripping it to pieces whilst still alive is ok.

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