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Post by Thorin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:38 pm

[*]Stephen Fry caused controversy after an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE  
[*]He called God an 'utter maniac' who is  'mean-minded' during atheism discussion
[*]Man made complaint to police and said the alleged comments were defamatory 
[*]Irish police are now reportedly investigating an offence of blasphemy



Irish police are investigating Stephen Fry for blasphemy after he called God an 'utter maniac' who is 'mean-minded and stupid' on television, it has been reported.
A viewer reported the offence after the comedian spoke about God during an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE in February 2015.
The individual, who wished to remain anonymous, said it was their 'civic duty' to report the comments which he alleges were in breach of the Defamation Act.  


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Lol this made me laugh


and it shows how even some western countries are backwards

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Post by magica on Sat May 06, 2017 9:14 pm

I thought blasphemy was back centuries ago, such a stupid law. Not one for these times.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat May 06, 2017 9:25 pm

Thorin wrote:[*]Stephen Fry caused controversy after an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE  
[*]He called God an 'utter maniac' who is  'mean-minded' during atheism discussion
[*]Man made complaint to police and said the alleged comments were defamatory 
[*]Irish police are now reportedly investigating an offence of blasphemy



Irish police are investigating Stephen Fry for blasphemy after he called God an 'utter maniac' who is 'mean-minded and stupid' on television, it has been reported.
A viewer reported the offence after the comedian spoke about God during an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE in February 2015.
The individual, who wished to remain anonymous, said it was their 'civic duty' to report the comments which he alleges were in breach of the Defamation Act.  


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Lol this made me laugh


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a very god example of why blasphemy laws are a total nonsense and should not be allowed in any way shape or form.

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Post by Thorin on Sun May 07, 2017 5:02 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:[*]Stephen Fry caused controversy after an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE  
[*]He called God an 'utter maniac' who is  'mean-minded' during atheism discussion
[*]Man made complaint to police and said the alleged comments were defamatory 
[*]Irish police are now reportedly investigating an offence of blasphemy



Irish police are investigating Stephen Fry for blasphemy after he called God an 'utter maniac' who is 'mean-minded and stupid' on television, it has been reported.
A viewer reported the offence after the comedian spoke about God during an interview with Irish broadcaster RTE in February 2015.
The individual, who wished to remain anonymous, said it was their 'civic duty' to report the comments which he alleges were in breach of the Defamation Act.  


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Lol this made me laugh


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[*]a very god example of why blasphemy laws are a total nonsense and should not be allowed in any way shape or form.



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hey look what an unclean house right next door Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun May 07, 2017 9:07 am

Just fucking crazy.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun May 07, 2017 9:39 am

magica wrote:I thought blasphemy was back centuries ago, such a stupid law. Not one for these times.

The blasphemy laws were only scrapped in the UK in 2008.

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Post by eddie on Sun May 07, 2017 10:10 am

Ireland are pretty strict about this kind of stuff and religious beliefs are deep-rooted in many.

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Post by Eilzel on Sun May 07, 2017 11:09 am

They need to grow up. Sure there are enough actual criminals to be dealing with.

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Re: Irish police investigate Stephen Fry for BLASPHEMY after he called God 'capricious, mean-minded and stupid' on TV

Post by magica on Sun May 07, 2017 11:40 am

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magica wrote:I thought blasphemy was back centuries ago, such a stupid law. Not one for these times.

The blasphemy laws were only scrapped in the UK in 2008.

As late as that? It's such an old fashioned law

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Re: Irish police investigate Stephen Fry for BLASPHEMY after he called God 'capricious, mean-minded and stupid' on TV

Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 8:14 pm

Gardaí have decided not to proceed with a blasphemy investigation against Stephen Fry after they failed to find a large group of people outraged by comments he made on an RTÉ show.

Detectives spoke to the man who made the original report this evening and confirmed they will not be carrying out further enquiries.


Independent.ie understands that detectives were unable to proceed with the investigation as there was no injured party. Under the controversial legislation, introduced by then Justice Minister Dermot Ahern in 2009, it is illegal to publish or utter a matter that is “grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion”.


A well-placed source said: “This man was simply a witness and not an injured party. Gardaí were unable to find a substantial number of outraged people.


“For this reason the investigation has been concluded.”

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:29 pm

Maybe a lot of people were offended, but just called him a twat or something. I wonder if he'd say that about Allah.

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:32 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Maybe a lot of people were offended, but just called him a twat or something. I wonder if he'd say that about Allah.


He has said plenty.

I was hoping it would go to court.

It would be very easy to reason his case based on the bible that this deity is stupid, a maniac and mean.

It would be a great way to show how ridiculous it is where people deny criticism and ridicule of myths.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:38 pm

I think he's a bit up himself tbh. He suffers from a mental disorder, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. He can say what he likes, but he just shows himself up really.

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:42 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I think he's a bit up himself tbh. He suffers from a mental disorder, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. He can say what he likes, but he just shows himself up really.


What has a mental disorder got to do with being right about the biblical deity?

The biblical deity is clearly a maniac.


I mean who calls for the mass slaughter of entire towns. Of men, women, children and even animals?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:48 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:I think he's a bit up himself tbh. He suffers from a mental disorder, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. He can say what he likes, but he just shows himself up really.


What has a mental disorder got to do with being right about the biblical deity?

The biblical deity is clearly a maniac.


I mean who calls for the mass slaughter of entire towns. Of men, women, children and even animals?

It has nothing to do with it, I mean that I let him off being a bit up himself because he has problems.

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 10:49 pm

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Thorin wrote:


What has a mental disorder got to do with being right about the biblical deity?

The biblical deity is clearly a maniac.


I mean who calls for the mass slaughter of entire towns. Of men, women, children and even animals?

It has nothing to do with it, I mean that I let him off being a bit up himself because he has problems.


So you dont like that he is smart and intelligent

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It has nothing to do with it, I mean that I let him off being a bit up himself because he has problems.


So you dont like that he is smart and intelligent

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Being smart and intelligent isn't the same thing as being up oneself Didge. You should know that. Wink

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So you dont like that he is smart and intelligent

Read my signature

Being smart and intelligent isn't the same thing as being up oneself Didge. You should know that. Wink


You proved my signature right on envy.

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Being smart and intelligent isn't the same thing as being up oneself Didge. You should know that. Wink


You proved my signature right on envy.

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You think I envy Stephen Fry? lol!

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You proved my signature right on envy.

Laughing

You think I envy Stephen Fry? lol!


Well considering all you did was talk about him and not the actual points. I would say that is a forgone conclusion that you do.

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You think I envy Stephen Fry? lol!


Well considering all you did was talk about him and not the actual points. I would say that is a forgone conclusion that you do.

Laughing

The actual point is that he said what he said. Is this thread not about Stephen Fry saying what he said then?

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 11:03 pm

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Well considering all you did was talk about him and not the actual points. I would say that is a forgone conclusion that you do.

Laughing

The actual point is that he said what he said. Is this thread not about Stephen Fry saying what he said then?


Its about what he said and if he should have the right to free speech to condemn, criticize poor myths.

All you have done is goo off about the man himself and shown your envy

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The actual point is that he said what he said. Is this thread not about Stephen Fry saying what he said then?


Its about what he said and if he should have the right to free speech to condemn, criticize poor myths.

All you have done is goo off about the man himself and shown your envy

Of course he has the right to give his opinion, but that doesn't mean he's not up himself. Why would I envy Stephen Fry? He has a terrible illness.

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 11:08 pm

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Its about what he said and if he should have the right to free speech to condemn, criticize poor myths.

All you have done is goo off about the man himself and shown your envy

Of course he has the right to give his opinion, but that doesn't mean he's not up himself. Why would I envy Stephen Fry? He has a terrible illness.


Ha Ha ha, so you are still talking about him again

Talk about envy, based on your own perception which is based on a confirmation bias, based on your own beliefs.

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Of course he has the right to give his opinion, but that doesn't mean he's not up himself. Why would I envy Stephen Fry? He has a terrible illness.


Ha Ha ha, so you are still talking about him again

Talk about envy, based on your own perception which is based on a confirmation bias, based on your own beliefs.

Go on then - tell me why I envy Stephen Fry? This should be a laugh. Laughing

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Ha Ha ha, so you are still talking about him again

Talk about envy, based on your own perception which is based on a confirmation bias, based on your own beliefs.

Go on then - tell me why I envy Stephen Fry? This should be a laugh. Laughing


All your above posts talking about him and trying to deligitimize him.

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Go on then - tell me why I envy Stephen Fry? This should be a laugh. Laughing


All your above posts talking about him and trying to deligitimize him.

That doesn't answer the question. Tell me what I'm envious about?

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All your above posts talking about him and trying to deligitimize him.

That doesn't answer the question. Tell me what I'm envious about?


It does answer the question

To claim someone is up themselves, clearly has you envious of him.

As he is not up himself

For you to then bring in his mental health disorder, is you trying to placer his views on no importance, clearly yet more envy of his intelligence, fame and brilliance as a comedian

As what else did your points have here other than to prove how envious you are of a great individual

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That doesn't answer the question. Tell me what I'm envious about?


It does answer the question

To claim someone is up themselves, clearly has you envious of him.

As he is not up himself

For you to then bring in his mental health disorder, is you trying to placer his views on no importance, clearly yet more envy of his intelligence, fame and brilliance as a comedian

As what else did your points have here other than to prove how envious you are of a great individual

You think I want to be a famous comedian? You don't know me very well. Laughing

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It does answer the question

To claim someone is up themselves, clearly has you envious of him.

As he is not up himself

For you to then bring in his mental health disorder, is you trying to placer his views on no importance, clearly yet more envy of his intelligence, fame and brilliance as a comedian

As what else did your points have here other than to prove how envious you are of a great individual

You think I want to be a famous comedian? You don't know me very well. Laughing


Well you try badly at being one on here.

So I guess that further proves my point

The fact you have steered this debate from the actual point of the Biblical deity being selfish, a maniac etc, says everything here.

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You think I want to be a famous comedian? You don't know me very well. Laughing


Well you try badly at being one on here.

So I guess that further proves my point

The fact you have steered this debate from the actual point of the Biblical deity being selfish, a maniac etc, says everything here.

Huh? I've never tried to be a comedian on here. In fact, people on forums often comment about my lack of sense of humour.

I don't think that was the point of the thread anyway. If you want to rant about Christianity/Islam again, it's up to you, but it won't be anything new anyway.

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Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 11:39 pm

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Well you try badly at being one on here.

So I guess that further proves my point

The fact you have steered this debate from the actual point of the Biblical deity being selfish, a maniac etc, says everything here.

Huh? I've never tried to be a comedian on here. In fact, people on forums often comment about my lack of sense of humour.

I don't think that was the point of the thread anyway. If you want to rant about Christianity/Islam again, it's up to you, but it won't be anything new anyway.


Well i would beg to differ based on the number of smiles you use lol.

The point of this thread is how there is ridiculous blasphemy laws around religious myths.

That people cannot rightly read these religious books and conclude that the deity within them, clearly is something quite abhorrent

As Dawkins said:

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

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Re: Irish police investigate Stephen Fry for BLASPHEMY after he called God 'capricious, mean-minded and stupid' on TV

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 09, 2017 11:45 pm

I've already said that he's entitled to his opinion. I see no point in going after him for blasphemy.

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Re: Irish police investigate Stephen Fry for BLASPHEMY after he called God 'capricious, mean-minded and stupid' on TV

Post by Thorin on Tue May 09, 2017 11:48 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I've already said that he's entitled to his opinion. I see no point in going after him for blasphemy.

Like I said, I wish he had his day in court.

As based on the bible he would have been easily able to back his reasons for why he called this deity as such.

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