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Is it hypocritical for American conservatives to complain about liberals being smug?

Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Sat May 06, 2017 7:38 pm

Was any longtime political commentator more smug than Bill O’Reilly, king of TV conservatives starting in 1996? Who more fully embodies the ethos, “our opponents are corrupt, evil, and stupid, while we are obviously correct,” than Rush Limbaugh?

Later, Andrew Breitbart’s contempt for a left that he regarded as “totalitarian” was channeled through a posture that aptly became the title of his book: Righteous Indignation.

Or consider Ann Coulter, who has reemerged as a voice that young conservatives on college campuses are intentionally associating themselves with. Prior to her most recent book, Adios, America: The Left's Plan to Turn Our Country Into a Third World Hellhole, she authored bestsellers including, Never Trust a Liberal Over 3; the un-subtlely demonizing Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America; If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans; and How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must).

Sean Hannity titles include “Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism” and “Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism.”


Neither Erick Erickson (who has apologized for the vitriol that characterized his early punditry) nor Sarah Palin are “post-Christian.” But both rose to prominence on the right––including the most Christian corners of the conservative movement––spewing disdain and vitriol as potent as any comedic entertainer on late night cable. If Palin has ever spoken in favor of loving one’s cultural enemies I have missed it.

Finally, here’s a moment from Mark Levin’s radio show that I transcribed in 2009 as a time capsule:

CALLER: I just wanna say, Obama is a lot smarter than you folks give him credit for. You guys were on a roll, I have to admit, with all those tea parties. Everything was rolling along, the Republicans were gaining momentum. And he managed to change your entire conversational focus.

Levin: My God. He’s so smart. His own party voted against him on Guantanamo Bay. How stupid was that, Cindy? His own party refused to fund the closing of Guantanamo Bay.

CALLER. Yeah but you know he can just move those people over here anyway. He’s already doing it with the one guy.

Levin: Yeah, sure, he can do whatever he wants. Let me ask you a question. Why do you hate this country?

CALLER: No, I love this country.

Levin: (angrily shouting) I SAID WHY DO YOU HATE MY COUNTRY! WHY DO YOU HATE MY CONSTITUTION? WHY DO YOU HATE MY DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE? You just said it. He can blow off Congress. He can do whatever he wants, right?

CALLER: Well, he seems to, he just moved (inaudible).

Levin: Answer me this, are you a married woman? Yes or no?

CALLER: Yes.

Levin: Well I don’t know why your husband doesn’t put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/what-the-smug-liberals-critique-leaves-out/525189/

Conservatives put down liberals constantly. I find it amazing that conservatives are now saying they voted for the disaster that is Donald Trump simply because they were so fed up with liberals being mean.

I think what's really going on with Trump (and Brexit, and Le Pen and many other issues) is that conservatives tend to have a much more urgent need to control, shape and prune their societies and cultures. For example, you very rarely hear lefties use terms like "un-American" or "Britishness," or at least not in nearly the sense that conservatives use them.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun May 07, 2017 8:25 am

but maybe lefties should
I call Pauline Hanson UnAustralian all the time
cause she is.
the lefties need to do more to visually and verbally shape our respective nations values.

I say if Pauline Hanson and Tony Abbott hate Aussie Values so much they should move back to Canada and Britain since that is where they came from.


They Voted for self immolation rather than continue into the fear of the unknown that is what the new century is economically as more of the 'third world' nations like china surpass the old world. Particularly in Europe it is just they cant accept that the narrative they have been brainwashed into believing is coming undone. rather than deal with the new world they choose oblivion.
I think the USA in Trump is definitely a very similar mentality highlighted in the slogan make America great AGAIN. the Again is open admission that they don't consider America great anymore the difference is that big business has clearly tapped this sentiment and rather than try and improve the USA for the average citizen is using this unthinking mass of fearful hill shepherds to drive even deeper means for the ultra rich to drain the public purse and drive the creation of a new aristocracy. literally making many Americans indentured slaves and in the case of many of those incarcerated for nonviolent crimes literal slaves.

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Sun May 07, 2017 9:23 am

I totally agree with that, and I've taken to doing so in several ways. The Statue of Liberty has become an anti-Trump (anti-right) symbol now, and it's as American as apple pie, jazz music and morbid obesity ...

Inscribed on the base of the statue is what America really stands for.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


TL/DR: "One man's trash is another man's treasure." I think our history has shown how true that is

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Sun May 07, 2017 9:37 am

And let me just add, I think liberals don't do stuff like that because it's so divisive, it's bad for the country to tell someone who doesn't think the same way as you that they're not a real American.

The real problem in America is that we have the left acting as though we're all trying to shape the destiny of a powerful nation, and the right acting as though it's all a game with no consequences.

When you take the governance and the future of a nation seriously, you realize there are lines you can't cross when it comes to people who you don't agree with but are every much a citizen as you are.

When you don't take that seriously, you act as though a huge swath of your fellow countrymen don't actually belong here, in order to gain power.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun May 07, 2017 2:22 pm



A quarter of the American voters (i.e. those who voted for Trump..) seem to believe that they can't live with that majority that doesn't agree with them, unless the Trump_rump can assume totalitarian control  ???

Bring on the "Divided States of 'Merica", I says..

Those Trumpettes want their own country, give them their own country  !   And let's see just how "great" they can make it..        

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