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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 3:10 pm

The Scum paper - hardly worthy of prefixing the description with news, is advocating aTory party leafing Britain with the hope that all opposition is irrelevant and must be discounted.
I cannot show the link - just read the paper.

Is this healthy for Britain, or is Britain stronger with a powerful opposition holding the government to account?

Or do rhe Scum and Teresa May plan to turn Britain into anoth version of North Korea ?


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Post by nicko on Sat May 06, 2017 3:14 pm

Bullshit !!
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 3:22 pm

What is the Scum paper?

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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 3:30 pm

I would like a new centre left Lib/Labour party, unifying the best of both. There are plenty of high quality PM's from each - which could really challenge the present government. A party such as this would probably draw skeptical members from the tories and UKIP as well.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 3:32 pm

nicko wrote:Bullshit !!
Yet another thought provoking comment from Tommy's rival as forum genius.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 3:35 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
nicko wrote:Bullshit !!
Yet another thought provoking comment from Tommy's rival as forum genius.

Says the person who can't post a link and can't even name the paper.

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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Tommy Monk on Sat May 06, 2017 3:47 pm

Thorin wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:The Scum paper - hardly qorthy of prefixing the description with news, is advocating aTory party leafing Britain with the hope that all opposition is irrelevant and must be discounted.
I cannot show the link - just read the paper.

Is this healthy for Britain, or is Britain stronger with a powerful opposition holding the government to account?

Or do rhe Scum and Teresa May plan to turn Britain into anoth version of North Korea ?

But Andy the opposition is irrelevant at the moment
That is simple a fact.
That is down to Labour being led by the Far left
Surely like me you hold disdain for any extreme views whether left or right?
I would rather see a strong opposition in either Labour or Liberal, but Labour has been hijacked by the Far left who are full of antisemitic racists. We both detest racism, so surely you would rather see Labour rid themselves of this extreme racist element?


Just like the nazis...

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat May 06, 2017 3:51 pm

Both hate jews and love Muslims...

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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by nicko on Sat May 06, 2017 4:07 pm

Andy ,I say "bullshit" because that's all your post is, I don't have to elaborate. Why say a lot of words when this one describes your post perfectly?
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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Eilzel on Sat May 06, 2017 4:10 pm

If you haven't got anything nice to say?

And it is a problem having only one major credible party. Sadly the main culprit here is Labour, although the media certainly have played a large part to.


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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 4:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
Yet another thought provoking comment from Tommy's rival as forum genius.

Says the person who can't post a link and can't even name the paper.
Try WH Smith. Thats where I read it. Cretin.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 4:43 pm

Labour are in a poor position at this juncture - the problem is they have a good number of quality MP's who will make credible cabinet members, but no one is presently prepared to stand up and challenge Corbyn.
I suspect that will happen after the GE.


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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 5:08 pm

Its difficult to post an internet link to a hard copy paper read on a shop.

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Re: UK - A one party state

Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:14 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
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Says the person who can't post a link and can't even name the paper.
Try WH Smith. Thats where I read it. Cretin.

You start a "news" thread and there's no news in it - no link, and no name of the paper you're talking about. Grow up and post properly instead of being childish all the time.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 6:14 pm

Hmm. Not so sure about thatThor. A few ultra right wingers would adore that. 
Dictator state is a scary thought, but the reality is for amy party  far left or far right , they would have no problem. 

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 6:15 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Try WH Smith. Thats where I read it. Cretin.

You start a "news" thread and there's no news in it - no link, and no name of the paper you're talking about. Grow up and post properly instead of being childish all the time.
Fuck off out of mine and Thors conversation. If you have notjing worthy to say, just shut up.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:16 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
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You start a "news" thread and there's no news in it - no link, and no name of the paper you're talking about. Grow up and post properly instead of being childish all the time.
Fuck off out of mine and Thors conversation. If you have notjing worthy to say, just shut up.

No, I won't. Post the name of the paper and a link to show what you're banging on about.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:25 pm

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No, I won't. Post the name of the paper and a link to show what you're banging on about.


He does not have a link, so what, so stop stirring rags

He's posted a fake "news" story, so he's the one who's stirring.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:29 pm

Thorin wrote:
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He's posted a fake "news" story, so he's the one who's stirring.


Well there seems to be a debate going on and i have no doubt the "sun" newspaper made a claim there is now only one party and that Andy interpreted to mean a certain way. 

So its only you going off this and not the points here

Do you have any points or are you going to continue to derail to thread?

Well why didn't he say he meant The Sun, and why can't he elaborate on what he means? He could post some links to articles from The Sun to back up what he's saying. He derailed the thread by talking gibberish in his first post.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:32 pm

Thorin wrote:
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Well why didn't he say he meant The Sun, and why can't he elaborate on what he means? He could post some links to articles from The Sun to back up what he's saying. He derailed the thread by talking gibberish in his first post.


So its clear you have no interest in the debate but want to bitch about Andy, after I told him not to be rude to you

Its simple here, either join the debate or stop looking to stir

I didn't ask you to interfere.

If there's an article backing up what he's saying, he can link to it, otherwise it's just fake news.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 6:34 pm

nicko wrote:Bullshit !!

I think you're right nicko.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 7:08 pm

It is not possible to post links to the Scum online website.
They have software to prevent it being copied.
Read todays Scum.
Online. Its in "The Scum Says".
If you are too fucking dense to know what paper to which I am referring, then perhaps you should read a bit more.

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Post by nicko on Sat May 06, 2017 7:19 pm

Why don't you say "the Sun"? and IF YOU DON'T READ IT how do you know what it says? Leaving all that aside ,the Sun sells more daily papers than any other. I suppose you read the Mirror and the Daily Worker.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:20 pm

Angry Andy wrote:It is not possible to post links to the Scum online website.
They have software to prevent it being copied.
Read todays Scum.
Online. Its in "The Scum Says".
If you are too fucking dense to know what paper to which I am referring, then perhaps you should read a bit more.

If you're too dense to be able to post the name of a newspaper which has a title consisting of three letters after the word "The", you're the one who should go back to school. Perhaps you read The Sun regularly, but I don't. Why do you read it if you don't like it?

Of course it's possible to post links the Sun online. Stop being a tosser.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:31 pm


Oh - sorry. Laughing

I am trying to find the article which Andy is referring to.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 7:41 pm

No it is in the column The Scum says from today's rag .
Written by the editor , saying what Murdock the tax crook told him to write.
I never buy it. I only cast my eye over its editorial column to find out what Murdoch's plans are for the Conservative party and the UK

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:42 pm

Angry Andy wrote:No it is in the column The Scum says from today's rag .
Written by the editor , saying what Murdock the tax crook told him to write.
I never buy it. I only cast my eye over its editorial column to find out what Murdoch's plans are for the Conservative party and the UK

Try to find it online and then post the link.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:46 pm

Thorin wrote:
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Try to find it online and then post the link.


He does not have to.

Well then there's nothing to back up what he's saying - he could have made it up.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 06, 2017 7:50 pm

I actually think Andy's right in that we need a new party. Everyone I've spoken to doesn't know who to vote for - it's the same tired old stuff. We need something new, something people can really relate to. Of course, if most people can relate to the Tories, it won't make a difference anyway.

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Post by Angry Andy on Sat May 06, 2017 7:52 pm

Open question for Raggs. 
Do you want a one party Conservative lead state with no formal oppostion party?
Hypothetically, 560 Conservative MP's. A few independentsand a disbanded House of Lords.
Dystopian?
Possibly.
Beyond imagination? Certainly not.

If you don't, then you will want a well organised, discipli ed Labour party to hold the government to account.

Which means you vehemently disagree with Murdoch and his editor.

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