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Post by Lord Foul on Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:05 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/us-drops-mother-of-all-bombs-on-is-held-caves-in-afghanistan-10835925

US drops 'mother of all bombs' on IS-held caves in Afghanistan

It is the first time the device, containing 11 tonnes of explosives, has been used in combat, according to the Pentagon.

The US military says it has dropped the "mother of all bombs" on a series of caves used by Islamic State in eastern Afghanistan.

It is the first time this type of bomb has been used in combat, Pentagon spokesman Adam Stump said.

It was dropped from an MC-130 aircraft in the Achin district of Nangarhar province, very close to the border with Pakistan.


The GBU-43 bomb, weighing 21,600 lbs (9,797kg), is GPS-guided, contains 11 tonnes of explosives and is the US military's largest non-nuclear device.

Its nickname, 'the mother of all bombs', is based on the name given to it by the US Air Force - 'Massive Ordnance Air Blast' bomb.

Mr Stump said the bomb was dropped on a group of caves and bunkers, believed to be used by Islamic State in Afghanistan, an affiliate group known by its US military acronym of 'ISIS-K'.


The weapon, which was first tested in March 2003, just days before the start of the Iraq War, was dropped at 7.32pm local time (4.02pm UK time) after its deployment was signed off by General John Nicholson, the commander of US forces in Afghanistan.

General Nicholson said the strike was designed to minimise the risk to Afghan and US forces conducting clearing operations in the Achin area "while maximising the destruction" of IS fighters and facilities.

He said IS has been using improvised explosive devices, bunkers and tunnels to strengthen its defences.

In a statement, General Nicholson said: "This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against ISIS-K."

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said of the strike: "The GBU is a large, powerful and accurately delivered weapon. We targeted a system of tunnels and caves that ISIS fighters used to move around freely, making it easier for them to target US military advisers and Afghan forces in the area."

The military says it is still assessing the damage it has caused.



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Post by eddie on Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:33 pm

He's fecking crazy.

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Post by Angry Andy on Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:42 pm

He will find it increasingly difficult to support complex wars on 3 entirely different fronts -Syria, Afghanistan and N Korea, especially as Russia and China have traditionally supported most of his opponents.
Trump is absolutely fucking insane to even try.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:04 am

He has a passion for seeking approval. Nothing else matters.

Note all the campaign platforms he is now going back on. Clean the swamp, but install all Wall St. types. We are going to seek vengeance from China, but the president of China is the nicest man. We are going to build a wall, but not until we figure out how to pay for it. The intelligence community is fascist and the generals are rubbish, but I trust them. Putin is a nice guy, but our relations with Russia is at the lowest since the Cold War.

Whoever's out there cheering him on, he says what they want to hear.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:06 pm

Surprised

'Cracker night'/'Guy Fawkes night' came early for those ISIS goons  !!!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:34 pm

Based on the best figures I can find, the cost of wiping out ISIS with MOABs would be $37.6 billion.

Thank Eris we only have 11 of those bombs left now.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:32 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Based on the best figures I can find, the cost of wiping out ISIS with MOABs would be $37.6 billion.

Thank Eris we only have 11 of those bombs left now.


What you need to work out and compare. Is what would be the Human Cost. To do as before with the Obama regime and mainly remain inactive to the Syrian Civil War and the conflict with ISIS within Syria/Iraq?

I certainly think Trumps is a complete an utter nitwit, but the near total inaction policy. In regards to both conflicts. Has seen not tens of thousands of lives disrupted. Not even hundreds of thousands, but millions of lives effected. All because the Western World has forgotten. That they intervened once before within the Balkans conflicts. Nobody ever hardly complained, how by this action by the west. It helped save countless lives. Of which many were Muslims.

I don't care how many billions it takes to find a cure. To this current pressing deadly virus condition. Whether that be Assad, ISIS or North Korea. More is at stake here than our lives. Those more so within Japan and South Korea. So how can you place a monetary value. On the deployment of this weapon. As by doing so, your reasoning then argues off cost and wealth over that, of the value of life itself Ben.

I have no idea on whether Trump is trying to look big, but the facts are this.
Half a million dead in Syria. Another 9 million displaced, losing the vast majority of their possessions.

I mean are we truly backers and defenders of Universal Human rights, only within the safety of our own boundaries? Or do we actually stand up to real and substantial threats?

Its up to China now to prevent this, but for anyone to argue against force in the conflict with ISIS. Have continually failed to factor in the human cost here. How the refuge crisis, has been capitalized by right leaning Authoritative European political parties.

I seriously dread to think. That if the generation that we are today. Were instead living through WW2, with the present threats from an actual dangerous enemy. Like Nazi Germany. How many would here. Choose the same path of avoiding the world issue's that they do have today (if this as the 1930's and 1940's). Moan then at the cost of war itself. When the military is needed to defeat or at the vest least. Hit ISIS and ASAD's military capabilities so badly. That it vastly diminishes the fighting capabilities of both groups. With also being a massive blow to both's prestige.

Wars are never nice and full of horror, with many innocents dying.
The question to ask, is if the US had of acted when the Civil war first broke out. And spent billions on the military by acting. Hundreds of thousands of lives could have been saved and there would have hardly been a mass exodus of 9 million Syrians. 

I mean, can you even place a monetary value of lives lost and displaced here?

The second point is why even have such weapons, if you are only then going to store them?

Wars are vastly costly, but even then this cost when out to help people from oppression and discrimination. Moans at monetary costs and not human lives cost and lost through inaction..

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:42 pm

Well, Obama did what he could: over 9,000 air strikes against ISIS over the course of his presidency. Of course, he could never get Trump's party to authorize other military action in Syria, because Trump's party was adamantly opposed to Obama doing anything other than dropping dead, and that extends to Trump's supporters as well:

More Americans than ever view the news through red-colored glasses. In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians.

A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump’s decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/syria-reflexive-partisanship-doesnt-apply-both-parties

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:55 pm

Only in the later years after millions had been displaced and killed.

Any side whether Democrat or republican that votes against support for oppressed people through the means of Military capabilities. based together with a broad strategy to tackle significant threats to stability in the world. Have no concept of the ability to see past monetary value costs and their hate of the opposition political force. Where on either side. Each would rather be dragged down to hell, than for either side to truly cooperate with each other. On such conflicts.

So ask yourself one simple question. Is the rivalry and disdain between Republicans and Democrats so over bearing. That both sides look for reasons. To excuse themselves from actively helping foreign nations. I mean I argue and back immigration and see the left argue for this also. Yet when it comes to oppressive and authoritarian nations and acting against the regimes that are a serious threat. To the well being and equality of others.

So Obama not act after 2013 with the first known chemical warfare attacks. He only acted a year later. When hundreds of thousands were dead and 9 million displaced.

So from 2014 even 9,000 Air Sorties is a minuscule effort military committed to by Obama.


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Post by eddie on Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:56 pm

Well it's either true......or those figures are completely made up to make it look as though a high percentage supports Trump.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:09 pm

eddie wrote:Well it's either true......or those figures are completely made up to make it look as though a high percentage supports Trump.


The figures are irrelevant based on who and why is in power in the US.
As it just backs my view. That those in each group. Would in the main, rather look for any opportunity to discredit the opposition. Than even contemplate working together to neutralize substantial threats to the future. By both sides  all voting to act against Assad. The problem is again monetary value and being too gutless to act. Hate of each side drives and continues to create more divide within the US.

I mean is the US really a symbol of Liberty?

Someone needs to remind them of what that is, because its clear they have forgotten.

I dont care who is in power. On issues like ISIS and Assad, or North Korea, that are real major threats to millions upon millions. Then all should remember that the US is the home of Liberty and to help ensure others also come to have for themselves that Liberty.

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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:04 pm

JaALALABAD, Afghanistan (AFP) — Afghan authorities Saturday reported a jump in fatalities from the American military’s largest non-nuclear bomb, declaring some 90 Islamic State fighters dead, as US-led forces conducted clean-up operations over their mountain hideouts.

Dubbed the “Mother Of All Bombs,” the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast was unleashed in combat for the first time Thursday, hitting IS positions in a remote area of eastern Nangarhar province.

The unprecedented attack triggered global shock waves, with some condemning the use of Afghanistan as what they called a testing ground for the weapon, and against a group that is not considered a threat as big as the resurgent Taliban.

The bomb smashed IS’s hideouts, a tunnel-and-cave complex that had been mined against conventional ground attacks, engulfing the remote area in a huge mushroom cloud and towering flames.

“At least 92 Daesh (IS) fighters were killed in the bombing,” Achin district governor Esmail Shinwari told AFP on Saturday.

Nangarhar provincial spokesman Attaullah Khogyani gave a toll of 90, far higher than the initial toll of 36 IS fighters given by Afghan officials.

Shinwari insisted there were “no military and civilian casualties at all,” adding that Afghan commandos and American troops are carrying out clean-up operations in the area.

Security experts say IS had built their redoubts close to civilian homes, but the government said thousands of local families had already fled the area in recent months of fighting.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-death-toll-hits-90-from-huge-us-bomb-in-afghanistan/

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