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Look at all the Muslims who condemn terror. (Just don't look too closely.)

Post by Guest on Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 7:06

From The Guardian:
It happened in history class. Heraa Hashmi, a 19-year-old American Muslim student at the University of Colorado, was supposed to be discussing the Crusades with the man sitting next to her. Within a few minutes, however, he was crusading against Islam.

“Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims,” Hashmi’s classmate told her. What’s more, he complained, not enough Muslims were making a stand against terrorism.

Hashmi was perplexed by this analysis. Muslims are constantly denouncing atrocities that have been committed in the name of Islam. Yet many people seem to think Muslims don’t condemn terrorism enough. So Hashmi decided to put the notion to the test. Using Google spreadsheets, she made a “712-page list of Muslims condemning things with sources”, which she tweeted. The list includes everything from acts of domestic violence to 9/11.

“I wanted to show people how weak the argument [that Muslims don’t care about terrorism] is,” she explained.

Her stats struck a chord. Within 24 hours, Hashmi’s tweet had been retweeted 15,000 times. A couple of her followers volunteered to help her turn her spreadsheet into an interactive website and, within a week of the tweet, muslimscondemn.com was born. This was last November, but the website has grown considerably since then and, sadly, flickers into prominence whenever a new attack takes place.


The Muslims Condemn site lists over 5000 cases of Muslims condemning...something. Usually it is terrorism, but sometimes it is something else.

Like 14 who condemned Israel's fighting Hezbollah in 2006.

Or the 32 who condemned the Simon Wiesenthal Center for building a museum near a deconsecrated Muslim cemetery

There are also condemnations against Israel for "attacking Al Aqsa" and for Gaza. In a database of condemnations of "terror."

Among the terror attacks condemned, I could find very few condemnations for attacks that targeted Jews. The Islamic Society of North America, alone among Muslim groups in this database, condemned the 2014 attack killing 4 rabbis in a synagogue in Jerusalem;  and the Federation of Islamic Organisations in Europe, alone among Muslims quoted in this database, condemned the 20123 Toulouse school murders.

That same Federation condemned the mythical Israeli attacks against Al Aqsa Mosque in 2015 - while Israelis were being stabbed in the streets. No Muslim condemned that, according to this database.

Nobody condemning the Hypercacher attacks, although plenty of condemnations of the Charlei Hebdo attacks.

Nobody condemning the 2014 murders at a Jewish museum in Brussels, but plenty for the 2016 Brussels bombings.

Nobody condemning Hamas rocket attacks towards Israeli civilians, but plenty condemning Israel for defending itself.

Out of the many terror attacks since 200 that targeted Jews for being Jews, very few of these Muslims quoted here condemned any of them. No one, as far as I can tell, condemned more than one of the hundreds of attacks on Jews.

It is easy for Muslims to claim that they are against ISIS attacks in Europe. Many of them claim that the Mossad is behind ISIS.

Yet since nearly all of those, even those who condemn some Islamic terrorism,  cannot condemn terrorism when innocent Jews are the victims (and, as we have seen, in fact many celebrate those very attacks,) then the entire basis for this database rings very, very hollow.

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2017/03/look-at-all-Muslims-who-condemn-terror.html


What more evidence can people see of the normalization of hate of Jews?

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 22:53

Nobody condemning Hamas rocket attacks towards Israeli civilians, but plenty condemning Israel for defending itself.

This Sentence Provides the answer.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

It is generally accepted defenders don't have expanding territorial claims. the constant attempts to paint the aggressor as the aggrieved is very blatant propaganda which actually does Israel no favors in the court of public opinion.

Additionally today in the western world there seems little hate towards Jews in general just Israel.

NOW I don't give a shit so Don't try and accuse me of anti Semitism for pointing out the obvious reasons for the situation being what it is.


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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 23:44

veya_victaous wrote:
Nobody condemning Hamas rocket attacks towards Israeli civilians, but plenty condemning Israel for defending itself.

This Sentence Provides the answer....  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

It is generally accepted defenders don't have expanding territorial claims. the constant attempts to paint the aggressor as the aggrieved is very blatant propaganda which actually does Israel no favors in the court of public opinion.

Additionally today in the western world there seems little hate towards Jews in general just Israel.

NOW I don't give a shit so Don't try and accuse me of anti Semitism for pointing out the obvious reasons for the situation being what it is.



They attacked Israel and were the aggressors, by firing over 200 rockets at them.

Worst apologist argument for terrorism date.

Gaza had Israel leave the territory, 12 years ago and has bee attacked via suicide bombings and countless wars aggressively started by Hamas

Gaza defensive?

By building zero bomb shelters and stock pilling offensive weapons and building tunnels

There is plenty of hate from the left in the west of Jews, comparable to the Far Right

So after all the above misdirection and terrorist apologist dogma

Why have countless Muslims refused to condemn terrorist attacks against Jews?

There is an obvious answer.

Many Muslims hate Jews and are taught to hate Jews.

That is the problem entirely here. That you don't give a shit.

If Muslims were facing hate and being murdered on such a thread, your views would be entirely different.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu 30 Mar 2017 - 2:44

Suspect

The O/P is a load of Zionist apologist bullshit...

Funny how many Zionist controlled American blogsites are constantly haranguing the public at large to condemn Islam, and join in on their usual crusades against Muslims..

Yet, not once do we see Netanyahu's supporters and buddies in the USA condemning any of those long running atrocities closer to home :

Disenfranchisement of Native Americans, broken treaties and loss of homelands;
Destruction of the American environment and national estate;
Handing over of forests and national parks to corporate interests;
Millions of homeless, and increasing housing unaffordability;
Rape and pillage of the Amazon rainforests;
Millions of Americans without adequate healthcare or welfare..


Nope, American domestic problems don't concern the US_based Zionist/Israeli apologist machine --  but just watch them jump to the defence and denial of any criminal actions on Israel's part.

The only genuine crimes and terrorism in their eyes, are those carried out by Islamic terrorists..
"Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim !"
Says it all, really..



As for those Simon Weisenthal Centre goons --  the day that they finally decide to acknowledge the 9 million non-Jewish Holocaust victims, I will give them a bit more creedence..    

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Mar 2017 - 6:51

3. How many non-Jewish civilians were murdered during World War II?

Answer: While it is impossible to ascertain the exact number, the recognized figure is approximately 5,000,000. Among the groups which the Nazis and their collaborators murdered and persecuted were: Gypsies, Serbs, Polish intelligentsia, resistance fighters from all the nations, German opponents of Nazism, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, habitual criminals, and the "anti-social," e.g. beggars, vagrants, and hawkers.



http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394663#3






http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/non-jewish-victims-of-the-holocaust


There was 11 million victims of the Holocaust, so you are denying Millions of Jewish victims now a Jewish identity

So where is your evidence the OP is bullshit?

Because you hate Zionists.


There is nothing wrong with being critical of beliefs, whether Zionism or Islam. So what a daft point, when this is about hate of Jews who are the victims of terrorism.

You then misdirect about the US and not terrorism.

So if you think its acceptable to hate people for the belief of a Jewish home.

You also avoid why many Muslims hate Jews.

Are you then making it acceptable for people to hate others for beliefs, as you hate people for their beliefs in Zionism?

That makes you as hateful as Muslim haters, and racists.

Go figure

Put up your evidence the OP is wrong or jog on.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu 30 Mar 2017 - 22:56

Thorin You Are the WORST apologist for terrorist here by far
You are trying to make out one of the terrorist groups is the victim and innocent
and a dimwit that cant understand Complex issues like this are not black and white By trying to present it as black and white you make it worse.... and just look like a knob Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Mar 2017 - 23:06

veya_victaous wrote:Thorin You Are the WORST apologist for terrorist here by far
You are trying to make out one of the terrorist groups is the victim and innocent
and a dimwit that cant understand Complex issues like this are not black and white By trying to present it as black and white you make it worse.... and just look like a knob Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Show me where you claim I make out terrorists are victims

That is a big accusation, and baseless.

Is terrorism wrong?

Yes when it kills innocents.

There is always other ways..

I invoke Gandhi, against extreme oppression by the British.

You lose..

Even the French resistance who had little hope until the allies landed, had countless betray the allies.

How are Jewish civilians at a bus stop a military target?
Is there a tank or rocket firing system by them whilst they wait for the bus?

So you have no defensive argument, unless you think all Jews are a threat

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