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Post by Thorin on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:42 pm

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[*]The Labour leader sang the Red Flag with pro-Palestine campaigners in Bristol
[*]He was pictured embracing two activists who have shared anti-Semitic posts
[*]Mr Corbyn also attended an event run by a Muslim organisation which stated the Labour party was 'indebted to Jewish financiers'
[*]He was pictured chatting with a rapper who calls for violence against Israel
[*]MailOnline's revelations reapply pressure on beleaguered Labour leader who is facing rock bottom popularity ratings after by-election failure in Copeland


Jeremy Corbyn was pictured singing a Communist anthem while embracing Labour activists who made shocking anti-Semitic posts on social media, MailOnline can reveal. Supporters were seen punching the air as the Labour leader led a chorus of the Red Flag with campaigners who have said that Israel is responsible for ISIS, openly admitted to 'hating' Israel, and ranted about the 'ugly Israeli species'. Mr Corbyn also supported a Muslim group which states on its website that the Labour Party is 'indebted to Jewish financiers with Zionist leanings', and attended one of its events last year. 


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4253926/Jeremy-Corbyn-NEW-anti-Semitism-row.html#ixzz4aCQEqhmY 
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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:19 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe you should look up Strasser/Strasserism...

lol!

PMSL

Considering the many times we have debated this and have brought up this up to prove how wrong you are.

You now use it in your defense?

One moment



Again both brothers were removed from the Nazi Party, one expelled the other murdered.

Proving further Hitler hated the left
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:36 am

I've already posted about Strasser on this thread...


You claimed that the socialists were killed... but it turns out it was mostly Brownshirts,  and Strasser and some of his supporters, and some conservatives... and you claimed that 'longknives' proves Hitler was 'far right' when it does not such thing...!



So you were wrong!!!

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:55 am

Tommy Monk wrote:I've already posted about Strasser on this thread...


You claimed that the socialists were killed... but it turns out it was mostly Brownshirts,  and Strasser and some of his supporters, and some conservatives... and you claimed that 'longknives' proves Hitler was 'far right' when it does not such thing...!



So you were wrong!!!


Many of the socialists were killed or removed

That makes me right, and you a simpleton.

Hitler hated the left

Fact


So now we have dealt with your stupidity here in all of his allies in WW2 all of them were hard-line right wing or Far right. The only exception being the Soviet Union, who he again only used to gain resources and then later invaded them.
He aided and helped Franco defeat the left in Spain
So how do you explain why he never had any socialist allies Tommy?
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:58 am

Waffle dodge...


It was the thuggish Brownshirts and the hardliners Strasser a and Co who were removed... Strasser also had communist affiliations/leanings.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Waffle dodge...


It was the thuggish Brownshirts and the hardliners Strasser a and Co who were removed... Strasser also had communist affiliations/leanings.


Oh grow the fuck up you immature dick

You just keep regurgitating the same shit, going "la la la, I'm not listening"

Hitler was not socialist

He hated the Left

He removed or killed many of the socialists from the Nazi's

You keep ignoring this

So please feel free to have the last word, its not going to make you right

One thing this does prove is how brainwashed you are.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:11 pm

So you are saying that the Brownshirts, Strasser and Co, and the conservatives were socialists...!?


lol!

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:14 pm

The SA became disempowered after Adolf Hitler ordered the "blood purge" of 1934. This event became known as the Night of the Long Knives (die Nacht der langen Messer). The SA was effectively superseded by the SS.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:19 pm

The Sturmabteilung, literally Storm Detachment, functioned as the original paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s

The SA have been known in contemporary times as "Brownshirts


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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:21 pm

Hilarious, so they helped Hitler rise to power and then Hitler double crossed them in the Night of the Long Knives, further proving that Hitler hated the left.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:44 pm

The Brownshirts were paramilitary thugs and deeply unpopular with the people... and who were demanding control of the army.

Strasser was a hard line nazi with communist affiliations/leanings... he and his followers were a threat to splitting the party.


But you claim these people were 'socialists' and 'the left'...!?

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:13 pm

How many times is it going to sink in for Tommy, that he used left elements to rise to power, then when in power got rid of them?

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Tommy Monk wrote:The Brownshirts were paramilitary thugs and deeply unpopular with the people... and who were demanding control of the army.

Strasser was a hard line nazi with communist affiliations/leanings... he and his followers were a threat to splitting the party.


But you claim these people were 'socialists' and 'the left'...!?

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Ah so Tommy left with nothing, resorts to spamming in desperation

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:38 pm

Are you saying that the Brownshirts, Strasser and Co, and the conservatives were the left/socialists...!?

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I am saying that individual socialists who helped Hitler rise to power were either killed or removed. Certain Conservatives were also purged, who were anti-Nazi.

Proving that Hitler hated the Left.

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We're the Brownshirts the socialist/left...?


Or was Strasser and Co the socialist/left...?


Or were the conservative (right) the socialist/left...?


lol!

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Tommy Monk wrote:We're the Brownshirts the socialist/left...?


Or was Strasser and Co the socialist/left...?


Or were the conservative (right) the socialist/left...?


lol!


The Brownshirts were made up of many of the old freikorps, though some of their leaders were socialists

Strasser followed Strasserism

Hence why Hitler used them to rise to power and removed them

The reason for the night of the long knives was to pander to conservatives Tommy?

So again Tommy spams the same ignorant shit

You are done on this stupity

Next explain why all his allies were formed of right wing governments?

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So you ARE saying that the thuggish paramilitary Brownshirts were the socialist/left...!?

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:15 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
So you ARE saying that the thuggish paramilitary Brownshirts were the socialist/left...!?


Nope, some of their leaders were.

Come on Tommy, how many times are you going to fucking bore me with the same shit?

Now go back and answer why his allies were formed of RW leaderships

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But most of those killed in 'longknives' were Brownshirt paramilitary thugs...!


So how does this prove in any way that Hitler was 'far right'...!?


Why don't you just admit that you are wrong in claiming that 'longknives' was about eliminating the socialst/left of the Nazi Party...!?


:lol!

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:29 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

But most of those killed in 'longknives' were Brownshirt paramilitary thugs...!


So how does this prove in any way that Hitler was 'far right'...!?


Why don't you just admit that you are wrong in claiming that 'longknives' was about eliminating the socialst/left of the Nazi Party...!?


:lol!


The Brownshirts membership was two million strong

Those killed on the night was 77

He eradicated the socialists

Now I have answered your same idiotic question 20 times

It proves Hitler hated socialists

It was mainly about eliminating socialists and getting rid of some others at the same time.

Why don;t you admit you are a simpleton?

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Now this point has been proven

Why were all Hitlers Allies in WW2 formed of RW leaderships who despised and hated the left?

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:34 pm

Most of what people cite to attempt to show Hitler was “left-wing” or “a socialist” comes from the NAZI’s early 1920’s platform, which was written before Hitler rose to power in the party’s Nationalist wing! Simply, the nationalists were in a party with some socialists (Strasserists) at one point, but that doesn’t make the nationalist fascism left, liberal, or socialist. Fascism is a right-wing (authoritative and small group focused) ideology.
Consider some main aspects of fascism are:


  • Anti-specific religions (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-racial separation (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-civil rights for minorities (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-establishment (left-wing, against the elite; but right-wing, against the protections of the state; and right-wing, in practice the NAZIs became despotic tyrants who used the full power of the state)


  • Anti-homosexual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-abortion (right-wing, authoritative)


  • Anti-intellectual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-immigration (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-social programs for their “nationals” AKA their in-group (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Pro-nativist worker (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Anti-Capitalism on paper (left-wing, against capitalism and toward socialism for the in-group on paper; right-wing, were capitalists with a strict hierarchy in practice.)




In short, just based on general reason, not much about the NAZI’s fascism is left-wing (not much liberty and/or equality going on here). Sure, on paper in the 1920’s they were to the left of a Monarchy with the help of the Strasserists). But the militant WWII era (Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945) NAZI fascism is mostly right-wing, despite its quasi-socialist roots.

This exclusive in-group nativist, nationalist, xenophobic, and at times militant ideology is what we call in modern language “right-wing”, and it is not an ideology of liberty and equality, it is an ideology of authority and inequality, it is not liberalism.






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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:37 pm

So out of a million socialist/left paramilitary thugs, only 77 were killed... hardly an example of Hitler wiping out all the socialist/left...


Why don't you just admit that 'longknives' does not prove Hitler was 'far right' but more just a result of power struggle between the socialist/left...!?

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:39 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So out of a million socialist/left paramilitary thugs, only 77 were killed... hardly an example of Hitler wiping out all the socialist/left...


Why don't you just admit that 'longknives' does not prove Hitler was 'far right' but more just a result of power struggle between the socialist/left...!?


It is when they were leaders and influential dear Tommy

So again

Now the above point has been proven by me, which smashed you out of the park on your claim   Laughing

Why were all Hitlers Allies in WW2 formed of RW leaderships who despised and hated the left?



Most of what people cite to attempt to show Hitler was “left-wing” or “a socialist” comes from the NAZI’s early 1920’s platform, which was written before Hitler rose to power in the party’s Nationalist wing! Simply, the nationalists were in a party with some socialists (Strasserists) at one point, but that doesn’t make the nationalist fascism left, liberal, or socialist. Fascism is a right-wing (authoritative and small group focused) ideology.
Consider some main aspects of fascism are:


  • Anti-specific religions (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-racial separation (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-civil rights for minorities (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-establishment (left-wing, against the elite; but right-wing, against the protections of the state; and right-wing, in practice the NAZIs became despotic tyrants who used the full power of the state)


  • Anti-homosexual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-abortion (right-wing, authoritative)


  • Anti-intellectual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-immigration (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-social programs for their “nationals” AKA their in-group (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Pro-nativist worker (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Anti-Capitalism on paper (left-wing, against capitalism and toward socialism for the in-group on paper; right-wing, were capitalists with a strict hierarchy in practice.)





In short, just based on general reason, not much about the NAZI’s fascism is left-wing (not much liberty and/or equality going on here). Sure, on paper in the 1920’s they were to the left of a Monarchy with the help of the Strasserists). But the militant WWII era (Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945) NAZI fascism is mostly right-wing, despite its quasi-socialist roots.

This exclusive in-group nativist, nationalist, xenophobic, and at times militant ideology is what we call in modern language “right-wing”, and it is not an ideology of liberty and equality, it is an ideology of authority and inequality, it is not liberalism.








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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:37 pm

Your argument over 'longknives' is unfounded.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:39 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Your argument over 'longknives' is unfounded.





So again

Now my point has been proven by me, which smashed you out of the park on your claim    

Why were all Hitlers Allies in WW2 formed of RW leaderships who despised and hated the left?



Most of what people cite to attempt to show Hitler was “left-wing” or “a socialist” comes from the NAZI’s early 1920’s platform, which was written before Hitler rose to power in the party’s Nationalist wing! Simply, the nationalists were in a party with some socialists (Strasserists) at one point, but that doesn’t make the nationalist fascism left, liberal, or socialist. Fascism is a right-wing (authoritative and small group focused) ideology.
Consider some main aspects of fascism are:


  • Anti-specific religions (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-racial separation (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-civil rights for minorities (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-establishment (left-wing, against the elite; but right-wing, against the protections of the state; and right-wing, in practice the NAZIs became despotic tyrants who used the full power of the state)


  • Anti-homosexual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-abortion (right-wing, authoritative)


  • Anti-intellectual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-immigration (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-social programs for their “nationals” AKA their in-group (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Pro-nativist worker (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Anti-Capitalism on paper (left-wing, against capitalism and toward socialism for the in-group on paper; right-wing, were capitalists with a strict hierarchy in practice.)



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In short, just based on general reason, not much about the NAZI’s fascism is left-wing (not much liberty and/or equality going on here). Sure, on paper in the 1920’s they were to the left of a Monarchy with the help of the Strasserists). But the militant WWII era (Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945) NAZI fascism is mostly right-wing, despite its quasi-socialist roots.

This exclusive in-group nativist, nationalist, xenophobic, and at times militant ideology is what we call in modern language “right-wing”, and it is not an ideology of liberty and equality, it is an ideology of authority and inequality, it is not liberalism.





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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:41 pm

Your claim that 'longknives' proves Hitler was 'far right' is unfounded.


You need to admit this first, before we start moving on to your next claim/question in your above post.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Your claim that 'longknives' proves Hitler was 'far right' is unfounded.


You need to admit this first, before we start moving on to your next claim/question in your above post.


It certainly proves he was Far Right. As he eradicated those with Socialist views within the Nazi Party and those leaders opposed to Nazism

Its so much one of a long list of factoids proving Hitler is Far Right, that you just simply refuse to admit.

You then claim I have to state I am wrong to something I am right on, because of your inability to understand many things?

PMSL

We have moved on, you wish to remain doing this




So again

Now my point has been proven by me, which smashed you out of the park on your claim    

Why were all Hitlers Allies in WW2 formed of RW leaderships who despised and hated the left?



Most of what people cite to attempt to show Hitler was “left-wing” or “a socialist” comes from the NAZI’s early 1920’s platform, which was written before Hitler rose to power in the party’s Nationalist wing! Simply, the nationalists were in a party with some socialists (Strasserists) at one point, but that doesn’t make the nationalist fascism left, liberal, or socialist. Fascism is a right-wing (authoritative and small group focused) ideology.
Consider some main aspects of fascism are:




  • Anti-specific religions (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-racial separation (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-civil rights for minorities (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-establishment (left-wing, against the elite; but right-wing, against the protections of the state; and right-wing, in practice the NAZIs became despotic tyrants who used the full power of the state)


  • Anti-homosexual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-abortion (right-wing, authoritative)


  • Anti-intellectual (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Anti-immigration (right-wing, exclusively focused on a small group)


  • Pro-social programs for their “nationals” AKA their in-group (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Pro-nativist worker (left-wing, for social programs for a collective; right-wing exclusively focused on a small group).


  • Anti-Capitalism on paper (left-wing, against capitalism and toward socialism for the in-group on paper; right-wing, were capitalists with a strict hierarchy in practice.)









In short, just based on general reason, not much about the NAZI’s fascism is left-wing (not much liberty and/or equality going on here). Sure, on paper in the 1920’s they were to the left of a Monarchy with the help of the Strasserists). But the militant WWII era (Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945) NAZI fascism is mostly right-wing, despite its quasi-socialist roots.

This exclusive in-group nativist, nationalist, xenophobic, and at times militant ideology is what we call in modern language “right-wing”, and it is not an ideology of liberty and equality, it is an ideology of authority and inequality, it is not liberalism.









Now, you have one last chance to go back and answer all my questions.

If not, enjoy Coventry, as you will be sent to there, for your continued spamming, misdirection and denial of facts.

So will catch up later

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn sings Communist anthem with activists who shared shocking anti-Semitic posts about the 'ugly Israeli species'

Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 pm

"...he eradicated those with Socialist views within the Nazi Party and those leaders opposed to Nazism..."


Completely untrue!


Most of those killed were thuggish paramilitary Brownshirts... although only a few of them were killed out of a number of over a million of them... others killed included Strasser and Co who were very much believers of a more hardcore Nazi ideaology... but threatened Hitler's rule and to split the party, with their communist leanings...


And then there were also some conservatives killed who were opponents of the Nazi left/socialist agenda.


You are just wrong on your claim... admit it and we'll move on to your next question/claim...








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Re: Jeremy Corbyn sings Communist anthem with activists who shared shocking anti-Semitic posts about the 'ugly Israeli species'

Post by Thorin on Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:31 pm

Enjoy Coventry Tommy, until you learn to respect and answer questions.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn sings Communist anthem with activists who shared shocking anti-Semitic posts about the 'ugly Israeli species'

Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:41 pm

You need to respect the answers given to your questions... and start admitting when you are wrong...!



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