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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:29 pm

Fake President Trump’s new national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, advised him in a closed-door meeting last week to stop using a phrase that was a frequent refrain during the campaign: “radical Islamic terrorism.”

But the phrase will be in the president’s speech to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night, according to a senior White House aide—even though McMaster reviewed drafts and his staff pressed the president's chief speechwriter and senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller, not to use it.

What the president decides to say in his address will be an early indication of McMaster's clout within the administration. McMaster, a career officer, was brought in after the ouster of Trump’s first national security adviser Michael Flynn, an early and loyal Trump supporter who said violence was a feature of Islam.

With less than two weeks on the job, McMaster is still in the process of asserting himself in a West Wing, where the circle of aides who can influence the president nonetheless remains small.

In his first remarks to the National Security Council last week, McMaster told his new staff he considered the term “radical Islamic terrorism” unhelpful, according to a second White House aide. “Even a small change like referring to ‘radical Islamist terrorism’ would be an improvement, in his view,” said this aide.

“Islamist” typically describes fundamentalist supporters of Islam-based government and society, rather than implicitly encompassing all Muslims.

The president's political advisers fear any sudden change in his rhetoric could open him to charges that he's abandoning his promise to speak plainly and openly to the American people. Both sides say a gradual shift in the president's rhetoric over time is possible.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense James Mattis were also asked for their input on the portions of the speech relating to foreign policy, according to a White House aide.

In recent years the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism” become a rallying cry for conservatives who believe Islam is inherently at odds with Western liberal values. President Barack Obama, following the example of President George W. Bush before him, pointedly avoided saying it—citing expert opinion that the wording risks alienating moderate Muslims who hear it as an indictment of their religion.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mcmaster-trump-terrorism-speech-235476

Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks.  And so were Muslims all across the world.  Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

    These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith.  And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.

    The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself:  In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil.  For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

    The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam.  That's not what Islam is all about.  Islam is peace.  These terrorists don't represent peace.  They represent evil and war.

    When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world.  Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace.  And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

    America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country.  Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads.  And they need to be treated with respect.  In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.

    Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes.  Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America.  That's not the America I know.  That's not the America I value.

    I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America.

    Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.


-- President George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:22 am

you know the world is fucked when Dubya words seem so wise and reasonable No No No No

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:25 am

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:03 am

Until it stops and you have to pull the string on its back to make it quack and walk again.

Trump isn't a politically correct person.  Why is this news?  Are we just figuring this out?

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 am

yeah we know trump is an Idiot

like they say he is a dumbasses image of a smart man
a morons image of a business man
and cowards image of a brave man

he is none in reality, just a fool fucking the world with his ignorance and inflated ego.

When will a Real Patriot be inspired by George Washington and put things right?
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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:35 am

He's playing right into ISIS' hands ... they want Muslims to view Trump as the typical American, so that they'll have an easier time recruiting new killers.

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:01 pm

Trump is not a future-oriented person, which will no doubt be his eventual downfall. He has too many immediate psychological needs, among which are the narcissistic need to reconfirm his questionable positions--as if reduction of cognitive dissonance will make him right.

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:23 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:Until it stops and you have to pull the string on its back to make it quack and walk again.

Trump isn't a politically correct person.  Why is this news?  Are we just figuring this out?

That's why he won because he is different to the norm and he really doesn't care about political correctness .

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:42 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:Until it stops and you have to pull the string on its back to make it quack and walk again.

Trump isn't a politically correct person.  Why is this news?  Are we just figuring this out?

That's why he won because he is different to the norm and he really doesn't care about political correctness .

He succeeded (not won) because the Russians rigged the election for him. It's an old Mafia trick. They've used it in labor racketeering for years.

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Post by nicko on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:49 pm

How can the Russians rig an election?
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Post by Original Quill on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:55 pm

nicko wrote:How can the Russians rig an election?

Through strategic hacking into computers. You've been watching it happen with banks and other credit organizations for the last few years. It's just a slightly different application. It's the same, only the motives are a little more indirect.

It the old days it was done by controlling the count.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:47 pm

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other.

Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them.

Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain.

Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost.

Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.

Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.”

Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.”

Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.”

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:43 am

Whatever. The Slavic peoples are much closer to the Islamic ideology...um, Bulgaria/Turkey, and then Syria? It's something that we Americans must learn.

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