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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:42 am

According to a report in CNN, the FBI rejected a recent request from the White House to publicly discredit recent reports about alleged communications between Donald Trump associates and Russians during the 2016 presidential election. White House officials had reportedly sought out the FBI and additional agencies to say that the reports were untrue. Certain procedures limit communication between the White House and the FBI while investigations are pending. A law enforcement official told CNN that FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had discussions about the matter. A White House official contended that it was McCabe who initially reached out to Priebus to say that the reports had been overstated. 


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:50 am

Thorin wrote:According to a report in CNN, the FBI rejected a recent request from the White House to publicly discredit recent reports about alleged communications between Donald Trump associates and Russians during the 2016 presidential election. White House officials had reportedly sought out the FBI and additional agencies to say that the reports were untrue. Certain procedures limit communication between the White House and the FBI while investigations are pending. A law enforcement official told CNN that FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had discussions about the matter. A White House official contended that it was McCabe who initially reached out to Priebus to say that the reports had been overstated. 


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they limit contact between the WH and the FBI but not apparently between CNN and the FBI.how strange


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Re: Report: WH Squeezed FBI on Russia Ties

Post by Guest on Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:53 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:According to a report in CNN, the FBI rejected a recent request from the White House to publicly discredit recent reports about alleged communications between Donald Trump associates and Russians during the 2016 presidential election. White House officials had reportedly sought out the FBI and additional agencies to say that the reports were untrue. Certain procedures limit communication between the White House and the FBI while investigations are pending. A law enforcement official told CNN that FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had discussions about the matter. A White House official contended that it was McCabe who initially reached out to Priebus to say that the reports had been overstated. 


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they limit contact between teh WH and the FBI but not apparently between CNN and the FBI.how strange


Ah yet more apologist drivel
So you are saying that things cannot leak to the media then?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:05 am

Thorin wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
they limit contact between the WH and the FBI but not apparently between CNN and the FBI.how strange


Ah yet more apologist drivel
So you are saying that things cannot leak to the media then?
bless you beaker,.

can you point out how that was apologising for anything,. It seems with you illiberals you cannot even ask a question

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:08 am

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Thorin wrote:


Ah yet more apologist drivel
So you are saying that things cannot leak to the media then?
bless you beaker,.

can you point out how that was apologising for anything,. It seems with you illiberals you cannot even ask a question


Easily, did you condemn the white house, or put up poor excuses, with misdirection. Based off contact between the Media and the FBI?

I love how you always come across perpetually angry

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:09 am

Thorin wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
bless you beaker,.

can you point out how that was apologising for anything,. It seems with you illiberals you cannot even ask a question


Easily, did you condemn the white house, or put up poor excuses, with misdirection. Based off contact between the Media and the FBI?

I love how you always come across perpetually angry

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I asked a question. Do you not understand what a question is?

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:11 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Easily, did you condemn the white house, or put up poor excuses, with misdirection. Based off contact between the Media and the FBI?

I love how you always come across perpetually angry

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I asked a question. Do you not understand what a question is?


I see no question mark, in your previous post and I did respond.

You are again using misdirection for your hero worship of Trump

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:26 pm

Deano wrote:they limit contact between the WH and the FBI but not apparently between CNN and the FBI.how strange.

It's called the First Amendment, Dean.  There can be no prior restraint on news media.  The press must be free in a democracy.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Thorin wrote:According to a report in CNN, the FBI rejected a recent request from the White House to publicly discredit recent reports about alleged communications between Donald Trump associates and Russians during the 2016 presidential election. White House officials had reportedly sought out the FBI and additional agencies to say that the reports were untrue. Certain procedures limit communication between the White House and the FBI while investigations are pending. A law enforcement official told CNN that FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had discussions about the matter. A White House official contended that it was McCabe who initially reached out to Priebus to say that the reports had been overstated. 


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What the left hand accuses, the right hand indeed does. Now you see the other side of he who alleges 'fake news.' The WH is trying to bully the FBI into fabricating news, rather than its singular purpose of investigation.

This is what Kellyanne Conway means by 'alternative facts'. Co-opt the agencies into becoming propaganda machines.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Thorin wrote:According to a report in CNN, the FBI rejected a recent request from the White House to publicly discredit recent reports about alleged communications between Donald Trump associates and Russians during the 2016 presidential election. White House officials had reportedly sought out the FBI and additional agencies to say that the reports were untrue. Certain procedures limit communication between the White House and the FBI while investigations are pending. A law enforcement official told CNN that FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had discussions about the matter. A White House official contended that it was McCabe who initially reached out to Priebus to say that the reports had been overstated. 


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What the left hand accuses, the right hand indeed does.  Now you see the other side of he who alleges 'fake news.'  The WH is trying to bully the FBI into fabricating news, rather than its singular purpose of investigation.

This is what Kellyanne Conway means by 'alternative facts'.  Co-opt the agencies into becoming propaganda machines.
wouldnt the FBI be expected to find those that are leaking to the press from within the WH or government in general?

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Re: Report: WH Squeezed FBI on Russia Ties

Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:27 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

What the left hand accuses, the right hand indeed does.  Now you see the other side of he who alleges 'fake news.'  The WH is trying to bully the FBI into fabricating news, rather than its singular purpose of investigation.

This is what Kellyanne Conway means by 'alternative facts'.  Co-opt the agencies into becoming propaganda machines.
wouldnt the FBI be expected to find those that are leaking to the press from within the WH or government in general?

Perhaps, but first things first. Russia sticking their dick into America's political soup is a far more worrisome issue. Chasing after leaks is a ruse, an attempt to say look over there, don't look over here! Leaks are a dime a dozen in politics, so much so that it would be an attempt to criminalize politics.

In any event, who cares? The leak chasers would find Kellyanne Conway, Ivana and Steve Bannon on the end of the hunt. Trump would say forget it; he wants to go after the leak receivers, not the promulgators. As I pointed out above, he can't do that because the First Amendment eclipses any law.

The whole effort is a diversion. Make noise and appear to have a counter-issue, even though it's an unconstitutional issue. Having a weighty counter-issue is a way of claiming righteousness when you are knee-deep in shit.

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Post by *THE Ben Reilly* on Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:05 am

Deflection is just that -- it would be better to examine the actual ramifications of this news. After all, during the campaign, Trump told us we shouldn't worry about how we were getting information from the inside of the Democrats' operation, but instead focus on what that information was.

First off, it's highly inappropriate for the White House to lean on Justice to help it sell its lies. That should be a given but it does appear that a lot of people either never learned or have forgotten how checks and balances are supposed to work.

I think the bigger thing going on here, though, is implied. Why would the administration do this? It should have been obvious that such a request had a high probability of making the administration look even more corrupt and desperate than it has in this past ... shit, has it really only been a month?

This was a Hail Mary pass. The administration is obviously panicking about what happens next when it begins to dawn on the majority of the American people that despite all the America First talk, this administration is all about Russia's interests. That's become the prevailing narrative, so the administration needed somebody with credibility to hit back against that. So it asked the FBI to lie.

That's the kind of fear this staff is living with every day -- that some reporter (aka "enemy of the American people") is going to report some news (aka "fake news") that pulls the rug out from under the whole operation. They're afraid Ryan will become president and they'll be leaving the White House in shame.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:44 pm

Original Quill wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
wouldnt the FBI be expected to find those that are leaking to the press from within the WH or government in general?

Perhaps, but first things first.  Russia sticking their dick into America's political soup is a far more worrisome issue.  Chasing after leaks is a ruse, an attempt to say look over there, don't look over here!  Leaks are a dime a dozen in politics, so much so that it would be an attempt to criminalize politics.  

In any event, who cares?  The leak chasers would find Kellyanne Conway, Ivana and Steve Bannon on the end of the hunt.  Trump would say forget it; he wants to go after the leak receivers, not the promulgators.  As I pointed out above, he can't do that because the First Amendment eclipses any law.

The whole effort is a diversion.  Make noise and appear to have a counter-issue, even though it's an unconstitutional issue.  Having a weighty counter-issue is a way of claiming righteousness when you are knee-deep in shit.

Suspect

What a surprise; to see this week that DYKbrain and his troops are so strongly opposed to "the freedom of the press", and free speech in general...

Or maybe not, when one stops to think about it..

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Post by *THE Ben Reilly* on Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:24 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
wouldnt the FBI be expected to find those that are leaking to the press from within the WH or government in general?

Perhaps, but first things first.  Russia sticking their dick into America's political soup is a far more worrisome issue.  Chasing after leaks is a ruse, an attempt to say look over there, don't look over here!  Leaks are a dime a dozen in politics, so much so that it would be an attempt to criminalize politics.  

In any event, who cares?  The leak chasers would find Kellyanne Conway, Ivana and Steve Bannon on the end of the hunt.  Trump would say forget it; he wants to go after the leak receivers, not the promulgators.  As I pointed out above, he can't do that because the First Amendment eclipses any law.

The whole effort is a diversion.  Make noise and appear to have a counter-issue, even though it's an unconstitutional issue.  Having a weighty counter-issue is a way of claiming righteousness when you are knee-deep in shit.

Suspect

What a surprise;   to see this week that DYKbrain and his troops are so strongly opposed to "the freedom of the press",  and free speech in general...

Or maybe not,  when one stops to think about it..



And allegedly loved being leaked upon as well Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:38 pm

Not only the FBI, but the WH people enlisted the help of the House (Devin Nunez) and Senate Intelligence Committee (Richard Burr) leaders, who willingly labeled the rumors as unfounded.

So much for independent investigations from standing committees of Crongress.

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