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Post by Angry Andy on Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:49 pm

The orange, wiggy racist liar has done it again. Invented an incident that happened in Sweden.

But didn't.

No one in Sweden can shed any light on this fabricated and unsubstantiated claim.

Even Trump cant. And he spoke the words.

He has gone bonkers.

Over to NIT, Dickhead and Tom.

http://news.sky.com/story/the-curious-case-of-president-trump-and-the-swedish-incident-10774330

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:03 pm

The Swedish Incident is like Kellyanne Conway's Bowling Green incident.

People are giving him kudos for this Melbourne speech, but I think this one, like the press conference Saturday, shows Trump going bonkers. Never seen anything like it.

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:43 am

Yep surly he should be committed to asylum for these rants,
he keeps saying he read it somewhere
Yeah in the speech your liars wrote for you to read, bloody orange moron.
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I also think trumps rants how there should be MAXIMUM age for presidency, it just wrong that people behind the scenes are taking advantage of Trumps obvious dementia

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:37 pm

He's senile...it's either alzheimer's or some sort of senile dementia. Reagan ended his tenure with it. Trump was elected with it. He goes in and out...that's the erratic part.

Says more about the electorate, than the candidate.

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Post by Angry Andy on Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:45 pm

He is struggling now. He only has 2 media sources that , according to the demented Trump brain, do not spin fake news. They are Fox News and Breitbart. Oh, and Pravda..

Now he cannot trust Fox. 

Who in their right minds would anyway?

Now he only has Breitbart, who are up his arse, and Pravda. Putin owns both Pravda and Trump,  so the Russian takeover is almost complete.

Where are Dickhead and NIt when you want to take the piss?

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:36 pm

Over the weekend Chris Wallace of Fox News ripped into the minority President for his attack on the news media.  So they are on the list too.

The reason I suggest alzheimer's, is there is a deep need in Trump to have an adversary.  There are several symptoms of alzheimer's they watch for: aggression & anger; anxiety & agitation; depression; hallucinations; memory loss & confusion; repetition; sleep issues & sundowning; suspicion & delusions.  Trump seems to manifest several of these--memory loss, suspicion and repetition, to name a couple--but highest on the list are aggression, anger, suspicion and delusions.

Alzheimer's patients progress through three to seven stages:

Understanding Alzeheimer's wrote:As symptoms worsen over time, the disease will progress through 3 stages. In the early stage, you may notice some mild memory loss, but, as the disease progresses to the moderate and severe stages, you may notice new symptoms appear or existing ones worsen.

The moderate stage is often the longest stage, where your loved one will require a greater level of care and will typically experience the fastest rate of decline. Their symptoms will progress and you may notice new symptoms
According to a U.S.-based survey, nearly 50% of patients with Alzheimer's disease are already in the moderate to severe stages when diagnosed.

When they’ve progressed to the severe stage, they may lose the ability to perform daily activities, like carrying on a conversation or even being aware of their surroundings, and may be entirely dependent on your help

An enemy seems to help Trump to focus.  It's not merely personal enemies--although there are plenty of those--but large, abstract enemies like Mexicans, Muslims, the media, women, blacks and Washingtonians, among others.  Having an enemy to attack appears to be high on his list.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:16 pm

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He's senile...it's either alzheimer's or some sort of senile dementia.  Reagan ended his tenure with it.  Trump was elected with it.  He goes in and out...that's the erratic part.

Says more about the electorate, than the candidate.

Idea

Probably find out at some later date, that he has early-onset dementia from snorting cocaine and popping LSD when he was in his 20s and 30s...

Or maybe he had a dose of syphilus in his younger days..
He certainly seems the right type  ?           sleaze

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:53 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
Invented an incident that happened in Sweden.

What incident did he "invent"? I never heard him point to one particular event. He's talking about how Sweden is encountering the same challenges and problems with refugees, that France, Germany, and Belgium have been plagued with.


Police investigator Peter Springare isn’t likely to be among those mocking President Trump for his remarks about refugees in Sweden.

Trump’s comments during a Florida campaign rally on Saturday – which some took as a misstatement about a supposed terror attack – dovetail with what Springare has been seeing during a typical week in Orebro, Sweden. Five rapes, three assaults, a pair of extortions, blackmail, an attempted murder, violence against police and a robbery made up Springare’s caseload for a five-day period earlier this month, according to a Feb. 3 Facebook post he wrote. The suspects were all from Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia and Turkey – save for one Swedish man nabbed in a drug-related case.

“Mohammed, Mahmod, Ali, again and again,” Springare wrote of those arrested.
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Many analysts took issue with Trump’s “last night” framing, and immediately compared the line to recent misstatements by Trump spokespeople, such as counselor Kellyanne Conway’s infamous “Bowling Green Massacre” blunder.

But Trump explained on Twitter late Sunday that he was only referring to a Fox News segment that aired on Friday night’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” dealing with the Swedish refugee crime.
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Last month, the police chief for the southern Swedish city of Malmo issued a desperate plea for help curtailing a plague of attempted murders, beatings and rapes. About 32 percent of Malmo’s occupants are migrants, although it is not clear what role migrants play in the crime wave.

“We cannot do it on our own,” Chief Stefan Sinteus wrote in an open letter about the “upward spiral of violence.”

And Sinteus is not merely dealing with typical crimes that any modern city would witness.

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

Nationwide, the terror threat level is at “elevated” and police believe at least 300 Swedish nationals have travelled to Syria and Iraq for jihadi training. On Feb. 11, a Swedish man and a Danish man were arrested in Turkey, suspected of plotting to carry out attacks in Europe. Tofik Saleh, a 38-year-old Swedish citizen of Iraqi origin, had been training with ISIS since 2014, officials said.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:59 pm

I presume the "last night" referred to the report which was broadcast the night before. It sounds like he got his words the wrong way round.

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Post by Angry Andy on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:14 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
Invented an incident that happened in Sweden.

What incident did he "invent"?  I never heard him point to one particular event.  He's talking about how Sweden is encountering the same challenges and problems with refugees, that France, Germany, and Belgium have been plagued with.


Police investigator Peter Springare isn’t likely to be among those mocking President Trump for his remarks about refugees in Sweden.

Trump’s comments during a Florida campaign rally on Saturday – which some took as a misstatement about a supposed terror attack – dovetail with what Springare has been seeing during a typical week in Orebro, Sweden. Five rapes, three assaults, a pair of extortions, blackmail, an attempted murder, violence against police and a robbery made up Springare’s caseload for a five-day period earlier this month, according to a Feb. 3 Facebook post he wrote. The suspects were all from Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia and Turkey – save for one Swedish man nabbed in a drug-related case.

“Mohammed, Mahmod, Ali, again and again,” Springare wrote of those arrested.
...
Many analysts took issue with Trump’s “last night” framing, and immediately compared the line to recent misstatements by Trump spokespeople, such as counselor Kellyanne Conway’s infamous “Bowling Green Massacre” blunder.

But Trump explained on Twitter late Sunday that he was only referring to a Fox News segment that aired on Friday night’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” dealing with the Swedish refugee crime.
...
Last month, the police chief for the southern Swedish city of Malmo issued a desperate plea for help curtailing a plague of attempted murders, beatings and rapes. About 32 percent of Malmo’s occupants are migrants, although it is not clear what role migrants play in the crime wave.

“We cannot do it on our own,” Chief Stefan Sinteus wrote in an open letter about the “upward spiral of violence.”

And Sinteus is not merely dealing with typical crimes that any modern city would witness.

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

Nationwide, the terror threat level is at “elevated” and police believe at least 300 Swedish nationals have travelled to Syria and Iraq for jihadi training. On Feb. 11, a Swedish man and a Danish man were arrested in Turkey, suspected of plotting to carry out attacks in Europe. Tofik Saleh, a 38-year-old Swedish citizen of Iraqi origin, had been training with ISIS since 2014, officials said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/20/trump-may-have-been-unclear-but-sweden-experiencing-migrant-crime-wave.html

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Read the fucking transcript you fucking moron.  
Christ , you are as senile as Trump.
He was referring to a SPECIFIC INCIDENT THST OCCURRED LAST night.
But never happened because
 A) he was ill informed
B)  He should learn not to trust Fox news, just like most sane people.
C) He was just spinning his customary lies.


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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:15 pm

People should stop using the word "senile" as a insult. It's not nice.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:17 pm

Yes.
There is a video at the source in which they delve deeper into what he was referring to. I urge everyone to watch it, if for no other reason than to become informed with what's going on over there. Sweden is in over their heads, just as France and Germany are.

This issue has become so problematic that some of these nations' polls show that the people are looking for "Trump-like" leaders.


France will choose a new president this spring, in a two-stage election process that for decades has come down to a choice between left-leaning Socialists and a right-of-center party that recently changed its name to Les Républicains.

This year, however, a third candidate has put the direction of the country very much in doubt. Marine Le Pen, leader of the National Front, is campaigning on an anti-illegal immigrant, anti-European Union, unabashedly populist platform. And yes, except for being a woman and not a billionaire, she could easily be called France’s Donald Trump.

Not coincidentally, Le Pen calls her followers the “forgotten” French and promises to restore jobs and prosperity. Wonder where she got that?

Her chances of actually winning are considered slim, just as Trump’s were. Her rhetoric is heated and offensive to many, like Trump’s. She has no regard for traditional rules of political conduct. Her fans are rabid, her enemies legion and vicious in their appraisal of her. She is loathed by the press that covers her just like . . . go ahead, fill in the blank.

Yet for all her polarizing positions and unorthodox style, Le Pen is leading in some national polls before the April 23 first round of elections. If she comes in first or second, she would proceed to a run-off in May against either a Socialist or a Republican rival, either of whom, polls suggest, would defeat her.
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Post by Independent Thoughts on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
People should stop using the word "senile" as a insult. It's not nice.

Agreed.  Making fun of a medical condition that affects millions is not appropriate.  What's next?  Are they going to make fun of breast-cancer victims?  No shame.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
He was referring to a SPECIFIC INCIDENT THST OCCURRED LAST night.

Where did he say that? Show me. Show us. Quote the "incident".

What's the matter? Can't do it?
See, this is why morons shouldn't call those who are superior to them "morons". Just more proof that incompetent people don't realize that they're incompetent.
Go read a book. Start with "Green Eggs and Ham" and work your way up from there.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:27 pm

He didn't actually refer to a specific incident, he referred to "what's happening".

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:He didn't actually refer to a specific incident, he referred to "what's happening".

That's the excuse they are trying to peddle from inside the WH. But I'm not buying it. He referred to an incident in Sweden "last night"...if he meant the influx of refugees, that didn't happen in one night.

But I'll grant you he may be confused. I am beginning to think he is suffering from alzheimer's, and such confusion would be consistent. Perhaps he cannot distinguish an interview with Tucker Carlson from a report of an actual event. Confusion and delusion are symptoms.

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Raggamuffin wrote:He didn't actually refer to a specific incident, he referred to "what's happening".

That's the excuse they are trying to peddle from inside the WH.  But I'm not buying it.  He referred to an incident in Sweden "last night"...if he meant the influx of refugees, that didn't happen in one night.

But I'll grant you he may be confused.  I am beginning to think he is suffering from alzheimer's, and such confusion would be consistent.  Perhaps he cannot distinguish an interview with Tucker Carlson from a report of an actual event.  Confusion and delusion are symptoms.

This is what he actually said:

"You look at what's happening last night in Sweden".

Now that clearly doesn't make any sense. If something had happened, he would or should have said "You look at what happened last night in Sweden". If something happened the night before, it's not still happening is it?

What he probably should have said is "Look at the report last night on what's happening in Sweden", or something along those lines. I don't think he's confused, I think he just doesn't always say what he means carefully enough.

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Raggamuffin wrote:People should stop using the word "senile" as a insult. It's not nice.

I don't think of it as an insult. I'm beginning to think of it as a medical diagnosis. You can't politicize his symptoms. He manifests signs of alzheimer's. He can't focus without a target...be it rubbish generals, Nazi intelligence agents, the media or John McCain. He confuses migrations with single events (as in this topic). He is repetitive. And he certainly is antagonistic and aggressive.

And...people inside are keeping on a perpetual campaign trail even though the campaifn is over...read as: anywhere but in Washington.

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Raggamuffin wrote:People should stop using the word "senile" as a insult. It's not nice.

I don't think of it as an insult.  I'm beginning to think of it as a medical diagnosis.  You can't politicize his symptoms.  He manifests signs of alzheimer's.  He can't focus without a target...be it rubbish generals, Nazi intelligence agents, the media or John McCain.  He confuses migrations with single events (as in this topic).  He is repetitive.  And he certainly is antagonistic and aggressive.

And...people inside are keeping on a perpetual campaign trail even though the campaifn is over...read as: anywhere but in Washington.

I was really referring to Angry Andy actually when he said this:

Read the fucking transcript you fucking moron.
Christ , you are as senile as Trump.

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Original Quill wrote:

That's the excuse they are trying to peddle from inside the WH.  But I'm not buying it.  He referred to an incident in Sweden "last night"...if he meant the influx of refugees, that didn't happen in one night.

But I'll grant you he may be confused.  I am beginning to think he is suffering from alzheimer's, and such confusion would be consistent.  Perhaps he cannot distinguish an interview with Tucker Carlson from a report of an actual event.  Confusion and delusion are symptoms.

This is what he actually said:

"You look at what's happening last night in Sweden".

Now that clearly doesn't make any sense. If something had happened, he would or should have said "You look at what happened last night in Sweden". If something happened the night before, it's not still happening is it?

What he probably should have said is "Look at the report last night on what's happening in Sweden", or something along those lines. I don't think he's confused, I think he just doesn't always say what he means carefully enough.

You are making my case for me. He has alzheimer's.

He confuses a trend with a single incident. That means he has severe problems conceptualizing. He can't hear what is being said in the media...and lo, he blames the media for saying things in a false light. Did you ever see someone with alzheimer's? Fits him to a 'T'.

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I don't think of it as an insult.  I'm beginning to think of it as a medical diagnosis.  You can't politicize his symptoms.  He manifests signs of alzheimer's.  He can't focus without a target...be it rubbish generals, Nazi intelligence agents, the media or John McCain.  He confuses migrations with single events (as in this topic).  He is repetitive.  And he certainly is antagonistic and aggressive.

And...people inside are keeping on a perpetual campaign trail even though the campaifn is over...read as: anywhere but in Washington.

I was really referring to Angry Andy actually when he said this:

Read the fucking transcript you fucking moron.  
Christ , you are as senile as Trump.

Well, I think Andy is upset. But on half of that equation he's right. Trump shows living symptoms of senile dementia.

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Raggamuffin wrote:

This is what he actually said:

"You look at what's happening last night in Sweden".

Now that clearly doesn't make any sense. If something had happened, he would or should have said "You look at what happened last night in Sweden". If something happened the night before, it's not still happening is it?

What he probably should have said is "Look at the report last night on what's happening in Sweden", or something along those lines. I don't think he's confused, I think he just doesn't always say what he means carefully enough.

You are making my case for me.  He has alzheimer's.

He confuses a trend with a single incident.  That means he has severe problems conceptualizing.  He can't hear what is being said in the media...and lo, he blames the media for saying things in a false light.  Did you ever see someone with alzheimer's?  Fits him to a 'T'.

No, he didn't mention a single incident at all - he said "what's happening", not "what happened". He clearly meant that he heard about Sweden's problems the night before - he just didn't think about how to phrase it in advance. People do that all the time, and they don't have Alzheimers. You're the one who appears to be imagining I said something I didn't say.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:10 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

I was really referring to Angry Andy actually when he said this:



Well, I think Andy is upset.  But on half of that equation he's right.  Trump shows living symptoms of senile dementia.

He's upset too often, and he takes it out on people. He shouldn't have said that at all IMO. There is no evidence that Trump is "senile".

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:13 pm

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Well, I think Andy is upset.

Seems to be a chronic thing with that guy. When is he not upset?

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You are making my case for me.  He has alzheimer's.

He confuses a trend with a single incident.  That means he has severe problems conceptualizing.  He can't hear what is being said in the media...and lo, he blames the media for saying things in a false light.  Did you ever see someone with alzheimer's?  Fits him to a 'T'.

No, he didn't mention a single incident at all - he said "what's happening", not "what happened". He clearly meant that he heard about Sweden's problems the night before - he just didn't think about how to phrase it in advance. People do that all the time, and they don't have Alzheimers. You're the one who appears to be imagining I said something I didn't say.

He said "last night". Quite specific.

Look, I'm not arguing there was or was not a terrorist incident in Sweden last night. I'm arguing that Donald Trump has a problem with conceptualizing. He can't distinguish between a report on a trend and a report of an incident.

You can't try to dust off his turds. We both agree to the confusion, or we wouldn't both see it.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:32 pm

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Well, I think Andy is upset.  But on half of that equation he's right.  Trump shows living symptoms of senile dementia.

He's upset too often, and he takes it out on people. He shouldn't have said that at all IMO. There is no evidence that Trump is "senile".

Meh...you do the same thing. I mention it as a pass off.  This topic isn't about Andy.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:33 pm

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No, he didn't mention a single incident at all - he said "what's happening", not "what happened". He clearly meant that he heard about Sweden's problems the night before - he just didn't think about how to phrase it in advance. People do that all the time, and they don't have Alzheimers. You're the one who appears to be imagining I said something I didn't say.

He said "last night".  Quite specific.  

Look, I'm not arguing there was or was not a terrorist incident in Sweden last night.  I'm arguing that Donald Trump has a problem with conceptualizing.  He can't distinguish between a report on a trend and a report of an incident.

You can't try to dust off his turds.  We both agree to the confusion, or we wouldn't both see it.

Yes, but he meant that he had seen a report the night before - he just didn't say it properly. That doesn't mean he has Alzheimer's or that he lied.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:38 pm

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He said "last night".  Quite specific.  

Look, I'm not arguing there was or was not a terrorist incident in Sweden last night.  I'm arguing that Donald Trump has a problem with conceptualizing.  He can't distinguish between a report on a trend and a report of an incident.

You can't try to dust off his turds.  We both agree to the confusion, or we wouldn't both see it.

Yes, but he meant that he had seen a report the night before - he just didn't say it properly. That doesn't mean he has Alzheimer's or that he lied.

He didn't say that, did he?  

I think the fact that we both see both sides, means that Donald doesn't see both sides when he creates these messes.  He gets confused.  

Alzheimer's is a condition of brain deterioration.  Confusion and inability to articulate are symptoms.  So are hallucinations...there's a thread on it.

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Yes, but he meant that he had seen a report the night before - he just didn't say it properly. That doesn't mean he has Alzheimer's or that he lied.

He didn't say that, did he?  I think the fact that we both see both sides, means that Donald doesn't see both sides when he creates these messes.  He gets confused.  Alzheimer's is a condition of brain deterioration.  Confusion and inability to articulate are symptoms.  So are hallucinations...there's a thread on it.  

He didn't say anything about a specific incident either, but that doesn't stop some people claiming that he did.

I think you're getting a bit obsessed about Alzheimer's now.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:45 pm

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He didn't say that, did he?  I think the fact that we both see both sides, means that Donald doesn't see both sides when he creates these messes.  He gets confused.  Alzheimer's is a condition of brain deterioration.  Confusion and inability to articulate are symptoms.  So are hallucinations...there's a thread on it.  

He didn't say anything about a specific incident either, but that doesn't stop some people claiming that he did.

I know. He can't distinguish. He doesn't know when he's creating the confusions. That's a real danger with a person in his position.

Raggamuffin wrote:I think you're getting a bit obsessed about Alzheimer's now.

Well, I do think that's a very real possibility. After all, he is in his early seventies. And he started this bizarre behavior back in his sixties. It happens to lots of people his age.

Someone should be looking into it.

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He didn't say anything about a specific incident either, but that doesn't stop some people claiming that he did.

I know.  He can't distinguish.  He doesn't know when he's creating the confusions.  That's a real danger with a person in his position.

Raggamuffin wrote:I think you're getting a bit obsessed about Alzheimer's now.

Well, I do think that's a very real possibility.  After all, he is in his early seventies.  And he started this bizarre behavior back in his sixties.  It happens to lots of people his age.  

Someone should be looking into it.

I think you need to come up with something more convincing that a few grammatical errors really.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:03 pm

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He didn't say that, did he?  I think the fact that we both see both sides, means that Donald doesn't see both sides when he creates these messes.  He gets confused.  Alzheimer's is a condition of brain deterioration.  Confusion and inability to articulate are symptoms.  So are hallucinations...there's a thread on it.  

He didn't say anything about a specific incident either, but that doesn't stop some people claiming that he did.

I think you're getting a bit obsessed about Alzheimer's now.


Yes he did specifically state something happened, by stating the previous night.
That eludes to something happening in Sweden, the previous, night after going on about letting in immigrants/refugees and terrorism. As he goes on about Brussels, Nice, Paris etc, all where terrorist events happened. He is thus clearly referring to an imaginary terrorist attack in Sweden.



There was no incident in Sweden on the night before

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I know.  He can't distinguish.  He doesn't know when he's creating the confusions.  That's a real danger with a person in his position.



Well, I do think that's a very real possibility.  After all, he is in his early seventies.  And he started this bizarre behavior back in his sixties.  It happens to lots of people his age.  

Someone should be looking into it.

I think you need to come up with something more convincing that a few grammatical errors really.

I have no idea what you mean. Perhaps it's late over there.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:08 pm

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He didn't say anything about a specific incident either, but that doesn't stop some people claiming that he did.

I think you're getting a bit obsessed about Alzheimer's now.


Yes he did specifically state something happened, by stating the previous night.
That eludes to something happening in Sweden, the previous, night after going on about letting in immigrants/refugees and terrorism. As he goes on about Brussels, Nice, Paris etc, all where terrorist events happened. He is thus clearly referring to an imaginary terrorist attack in Sweden.



There was no incident in Sweden on the night before

I've already said several times that he didn't refer to an incident, and I've said several times what I thought he meant. I'm not going to keep on saying it. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:09 pm

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I think you need to come up with something more convincing that a few grammatical errors really.

I have no idea what you mean.  Perhaps it's late over there.

He made a grammatical error when he referred to "last night". He didn't say what he meant properly. It's like leaving out commas which changes the meaning of a sentence.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:11 pm

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Yes he did specifically state something happened, by stating the previous night.
That eludes to something happening in Sweden, the previous, night after going on about letting in immigrants/refugees and terrorism. As he goes on about Brussels, Nice, Paris etc, all where terrorist events happened. He is thus clearly referring to an imaginary terrorist attack in Sweden.



There was no incident in Sweden on the night before

I've already said several times that he didn't refer to an incident, and I've said several times what I thought he meant. I'm not going to keep on saying it. We'll just have to agree to disagree.


You can keep up defending him all you like, but as seen, you offer nothing to counter the fact he did elude to an attack.

He went off places that received terrorist attacks, after claiming something happened in Sweden the previous night.
Nothing happened
He invented and presented a view that something did happen comparable to terrorist events in Nice, Brussels and Paris

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:12 pm

Thorin wrote:
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I've already said several times that he didn't refer to an incident, and I've said several times what I thought he meant. I'm not going to keep on saying it. We'll just have to agree to disagree.


You can keep up defending him all you like, but as seen, you offer nothing to counter the fact he did elude to an attack.

He went off places that received terrorist attacks, after claiming something happened in Sweden the previous night.
Nothing happened
He invented and presented a view that something did happen comparable to terrorist events in Nice, Brussels and Paris

I explained very clearly what I think occurred. He said nothing about any "attack". I think you and Quill are the ones who are imagining things.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:14 pm

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You can keep up defending him all you like, but as seen, you offer nothing to counter the fact he did elude to an attack.

He went off places that received terrorist attacks, after claiming something happened in Sweden the previous night.
Nothing happened
He invented and presented a view that something did happen comparable to terrorist events in Nice, Brussels and Paris

I explained very clearly what I think occurred. He said nothing about any "attack". I think you and Quill are the ones who are imagining things.


No I think you are a poor apologist
Explain the context here in claiming an event happened the night before in Sweden, then going off terrorist events that actually happened in Nice, Paris and Brussels?

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Post by Angry Andy on Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:22 pm

Swedish politicians are also rightly annoyed with Trump.

http://news.sky.com/story/ex-swedish-pm-carl-bildt-tells-donald-trump-stop-digging-10775741

Of course it may have been wrongly translated.

There still isnt a book to translate Trumpspeak into English.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:43 am

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:Yes.
There is a video at the source in which they delve deeper into what he was referring to.  I urge everyone to watch it, if for no other reason than to become informed with what's going on over there.  Sweden is in over their heads, just as France and Germany are.

This issue has become so problematic that some of these nations' polls show that the people are looking for "Trump-like" leaders.  


France will choose a new president this spring, in a two-stage election process that for decades has come down to a choice between left-leaning Socialists and a right-of-center party that recently changed its name to Les Républicains.

This year, however, a third candidate has put the direction of the country very much in doubt. Marine Le Pen, leader of the National Front, is campaigning on an anti-illegal immigrant, anti-European Union, unabashedly populist platform. And yes, except for being a woman and not a billionaire, she could easily be called France’s Donald Trump.

Not coincidentally, Le Pen calls her followers the “forgotten” French and promises to restore jobs and prosperity. Wonder where she got that?

Her chances of actually winning are considered slim, just as Trump’s were. Her rhetoric is heated and offensive to many, like Trump’s. She has no regard for traditional rules of political conduct. Her fans are rabid, her enemies legion and vicious in their appraisal of her. She is loathed by the press that covers her just like . . .  go ahead, fill in the blank.

Yet for all her polarizing positions and unorthodox style, Le Pen is leading in some national polls before the April 23 first round of elections. If she comes in first or second, she would proceed to a run-off in May against either a Socialist or a Republican rival, either of whom, polls suggest, would defeat her.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/20/is-le-pen-mightier-than-sword.html

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NOW,  here we have the Teabagger/alt.right boosters and spruikers  claiming that they know more about what is supposedly going down over in Sweden,  Germany and France,  than what the people over there on the ground are actually aware of...

All thanks to FauxNews, Breitbart and Pravda..

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