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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:44 pm

NBC reporter Peter Alexander corrected So-Called President Trump during a press conference Thursday after the president again made a false claim about his Electoral College victory margin.

The press conference was called to tout the president’s choice of attorney Alexander Acosta for the role of labor secretary, but it devolved into a meandering tirade against the press. Russia dominated the questions, but Trump also found a way to brag about his victory over Hillary Clinton, falsely claiming the margin, 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232, was the biggest since Ronald Reagan’s 1984 win. In fact, Barack Obama won more electoral votes in 2008 and 2012, Bill Clinton won more in 1992 and 1996 and George H.W. Bush won more in 1988.

Alexander, a correspondent for NBC News, sought to correct Trump on those figures, and pressed him to explain how he could call reporting by outlets like The New York Times and CNN “fake news” while using inaccurate figures himself.

“Why should Americans trust you?” asked Alexander.

“I was given that information,” Trump said, cutting Alexander off. “I don’t know. I was just given it. We had a very, very big margin.”

“Why should Americans trust you when you accuse the information they receive of being fake, when you provide information that’s not accurate?” Alexander asked.

“I was given that information,” said Trump. “Actually, I’ve seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory. Do you agree with that?”

“You’re the president,” Alexander replied.

Trump has repeatedly described his victory over Clinton as a “historic” and “massive” landslide. That’s not the case. His Electoral College victory actually ranks 46th out of 58 presidential elections. He lost the popular vote to Clinton by about 2.8 million votes.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:47 am

This is what I was talking to you about this morning, over on "Surprise..."

Ben wrote:Re: Surprise! Those "out of touch" Democrats have been touting a policy for years that Trump is "100 percent for"

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Just been listening to the minority President's press conference.  Lie, lie...deny, lie!  He claimed that he had received more EC votes than anyone since Reagan.

Hell, Obama exceeded him by 18-votes.  How can you trust someone who is so indifferent about the truth?  You can't. He just makes up his lies as he is speaking.

There was a big discussion about this, this evening on the Chris Matthews show (MSNBC).  They talked about his incessant need to build himself up by telling slippery lies.

Also raised: the press conference, meant to combat the Flynn disaster, accomplished nothing of the sort. They likened it to the I'm not a crook speech by Nixon. He starts out positive, and almost immediately goes into a whine about the media and the "illegal leaks".

The guy has accomplished nothing on his so-called legislative agenda, and Congress is getting worried.  Paul Ryan and the Republican leadership are worried that he doesn't know how to lead or put together a legislative package.  At this rate, he will accomplish nothing his first year.  He can get nothing done.

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Post by Angry Andy on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:12 am

Trump is in a world of trouble trying to call the press liars and corrupt, especially when he upsets the Murdoch news corporation.

They are now attacking Trump as well. 
Oh dear.

http://news.sky.com/story/trump-launches-unprecedented-attack-on-media-10770556

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:42 pm

One massive contradiction in the press conference: Trump says the leaks are real, but the news is fake. If the leaks are real, but they are not leaked because the news is preoccupied with fake news, what's the problem?

On the other hand, if the concern is the news is fake, what is the crime? There is no law that says faked news is illegal.

Next dilemma: is this guy complex, or an idiot?

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Post by eddie on Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:17 pm

Original Quill wrote:One massive contradiction in the press conference: Trump says the leaks are real, but the news is fake.  If the leaks are real, but they are not leaked because the news is preoccupied with fake news, what's the problem?  

On the other hand, if the concern is the news is fake, what is the crime?  There is no law that says faked news is illegal.

Next dilemma: is this guy complex, or an idiot?

I'm really hoping it's complex, but you'd have to be an idiot to think he's not an idiot.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:18 pm

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GIVE HIM another week of making friends and influencing people...

And Breitbart and Pravda will be the only "news" sources left supporting the Dumpster !!!

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:44 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:alien

GIVE HIM another week of making friends and influencing people...

And Breitbart and Pravda will be the only "news" sources left supporting the Dumpster !!!

It's becoming my mantra: It's only a matter of time. There are just too many rocks in the shoals.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:19 pm

Selective outrage, at its finest.

I would think that exaggerating about an election win would be small beans, compared to rigging an election.
Which is the bigger lie?  Someone who claims more points than deserved, or fooling all your constituents into believing that their votes count for anything?

DNC Admits They Stole the Election From Bernie Sanders
DNC Concede Election Was Definitely Rigged Against Sanders
DNC Lawyers Argue No Liability: Neutrality Is Merely a ‘Political Promise’

Just saying...

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:47 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:Selective outrage, at its finest.

I would think that exaggerating about an election win would be small beans, compared to rigging an election.
Which is the bigger lie?  Someone who claims more points than deserved, or fooling all your constituents into believing that their votes count for anything?

DNC Admits They Stole the Election From Bernie Sanders
DNC Concede Election Was Definitely Rigged Against Sanders
DNC Lawyers Argue No Liability: Neutrality Is Merely a ‘Political Promise’

Just saying...

The DNC's a non sequitur.  Concerns about the DNC vis Bernie Sanders is looking in the rear-view mirror.

What Peter Alexander brings up is troubling.  A President that is so insecure that he has to continually lie to build up his ego is ultimately a danger.  Look at the delicate presidential temper that caused a flare up between Trump and Malcolm Turnbull of Australia.  If that had been Iran or China, it might have started WW III.  We know through experience that Trump harbors grudges.  He's a load of trouble, all on account of his lack of self-esteem.

The real question is, what is more important, the weak ego of one man or the national security of a huge nation?  If we have to coddle this diva through the peaks and valleys of international politics, someone had better devise a strategy to direct him.  Right now, WH leaks is the only way the aides know to introduce new ideas into his head.

Of course, we could cut out the middle man and ask Putin to come in and take charge.  The grin on his face must go three times around his head.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:04 pm

OQ wrote:
A President that is so insecure that he has to lie to build up his ego is ultimately a danger.

If that's the case, it's a good thing we elected Donald Trump. I'd rather have someone that exaggerates or stretches the truth, than someone who fabricates an alternate set of fictional events.


Can anyone say "Bosnia"? Remember? When she claimed to be under sniper fire? Haha! She told that story MULTIPLE times, even though it never happened!!

Telegraph wrote:
"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said in Washington on Monday. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as "like a scene from Saving Private Ryan".
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She insisted it was the "first time in 12 years" she had spoken inaccurately about the trip.
But her Bosnia anecdote has been a regular feature of her stump speeches.
Hillary Clinton's Bosnia sniper story exposed

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:16 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:
OQ wrote:
A President that is so insecure that he has to lie to build up his ego is ultimately a danger.

If that's the case, it's a good thing we elected Donald Trump.  I'd rather have someone that exaggerates or stretches the truth, than someone who fabricates an alternate set of fictional events.


Can anyone say "Bosnia"?  Remember?  When she claimed to be under sniper fire?  Haha!  She told that story MULTIPLE times, even though it never happened!!

Telegraph wrote:
"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said in Washington on Monday. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as "like a scene from Saving Private Ryan".
...
She insisted it was the "first time in 12 years" she had spoken inaccurately about the trip.
But her Bosnia anecdote has been a regular feature of her stump speeches.
Hillary Clinton's Bosnia sniper story exposed

Rear-view mirror, IT. Pay attention to what's going on around you in the here and now. It's a disaster, and it's not likely to change in the next four years.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:32 pm

In a couple of months, this will be nothing more than a forgotten blip on the current-events radar.

You guys have taken the biggest little-controversy and have been trying to inflate it well beyond its actual size.

This was Flynn's mistake and his alone. Just because you hire someone doesn't mean you make them exercise good judgement. He's gone, and neither Trump nor Pence are associated with his actions.

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Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:In a couple of months, this will be nothing more than a forgotten blip on the current-events radar.

You guys have taken the biggest little-controversy and have been trying to inflate it well beyond its actual size.

This was Flynn's mistake and his alone.  Just because you hire someone doesn't mean you make them exercise good judgement.  He's gone, and neither Trump nor Pence are associated with his actions.

But...Trump has done nothing positive.  When is it going to start?  Where are the legislative proposals?  The Republicans--some 535 legislators--are sitting up on the hill and waiting, while pussy-grabber pisses and moans about the "fake" press and his daughter's clothing manufacturing business.  

The man has no idea what he is doing, and it shows.

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:12 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:In a couple of months, this will be nothing more than a forgotten blip on the current-events radar.

You guys have taken the biggest little-controversy and have been trying to inflate it well beyond its actual size.

This was Flynn's mistake and his alone.  Just because you hire someone doesn't mean you make them exercise good judgement.  He's gone, and neither Trump nor Pence are associated with his actions.

On the contrary. National security officials suspected Flynn was compromised by the Russians and approached Trump about this, and Trump sat on his tiny thumb for 18 days. Eighteen days and we had a guy who might be doing Putin's bidding looking at our classified national security information.

Now pull your head out of Trump's ass, remember what country you're a citizen of, and admit that this was gross dereliction of duty.

If you find it that hard to muster any outrage, just ask yourself how you'd have reacted if Obama had done it. Or better yet -- if Hillary were elected and she'd done it.

Call it Flynngate, call it Flynnghazi -- we're going to be talking about this for a long time.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:52 pm

Ben wrote:
...admit that this was gross dereliction of duty.

Again, you and the Liberals are seeking hard to find something more sinister than what is actually there.
FBI has already said there would be no charges, so what are you guys still playing Super Sleuth for?
When he gets slapped with charges, give me a call.  We'll talk.  In the meantime, everyone except the Liberals will chalk this up as more of the "resistance" vowed by the lefties and part of the Dem vs Repub political war.  Typical political mud slinging.

Published 1-hour ago:

New York Post wrote:
The problem with Michael Flynn’s ouster as national security adviser “is not the mishandling of classified information,” as President Trump believes, says Eli Lake at Bloomberg. “It’s about Flynn’s detractors selectively disclosing” such information “and how this represents a chilling abuse of power.” For while Flynn didn’t fully disclose the details of his calls with Moscow’s ambassador, “at at no point has he been accused of working with Russia” to “sabotage the election.” Nor is there any indication of any “quid pro quo deal with the Russians.” The calls themselves “mean very little” and are “not unprecedented.” And suggestions he was susceptible to blackmail are “the weakest reed of all.” No, “Flynn’s enemies waged this campaign by disclosing communications that we should be able to trust the government to monitor with proper discretion.”
http://nypost.com/2017/02/17/fact-vs-innuendo-in-the-flynn-affair-trumps-press-bashing-other-notable-commentary/

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:28 pm

Oh, fcs...the NY post. Got any Breitbart articles.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:37 am

No, but I do have one from Bloomberg.
Enjoy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-17/separating-fact-from-innuendo-in-the-flynn-fiasco

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Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:No, but I do have one from Bloomberg.
Enjoy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-17/separating-fact-from-innuendo-in-the-flynn-fiasco

Yes, read your own source...

Bloomberg wrote:The backdrop to this is all the open questions about how Russia influenced the last election, and whether Trump's associates colluded in this operation. That is a necessary investigation. If Trump and his advisers had anything to do with that, it's a high crime.

The good news is that the FBI, in conjunction with the intelligence community, is now probing the matter. So is the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. There is also renewed momentum for a more formal independent commission to examine all of this as well. That's important.

Other than the FBI transcript, nobody know anything. But there's a lot of noses hot on the trail. That's all we need for now. What do you think Flynn was calling the Russian Ambassador for on the day sanctions came down?

I'm thinking Congress wants to know.

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:29 am

They were probably trading suggestions for the color of the new drapes in the new Oval Office.
Can you say different?  Of course not.  It's sheer speculation until the hammer drops.
Don't get yourself worked up over a tease.  


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Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:
In a couple of months, this will be nothing more than a forgotten blip on the current-events radar.

You guys have taken the biggest little-controversy and have been trying to inflate it well beyond its actual size.

This was Flynn's mistake and his alone.  Just because you hire someone doesn't mean you make them exercise good judgement.  He's gone, and neither Trump nor Pence are associated with his actions.

Razz

So then, Comrade NITwitsky...

You only give Team Trump a couple of months now ???

Last week you were claiming they would have the full eight years in there !!!

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:53 am

Hey, Wolfie.  It's about time for you to lay down and lick yourself clean, isn't it?
If you're good, I'll scoop some peanut butter and put it on your favorite Justin Bieber doll. AND I'll even put it in "the spot" you like to lick it from.  Smile

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