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Post by eddie on Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:26 pm

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Elizabeth Warren: emerging voice of America’s opposition

The weeks following the inauguration of the 45th American president have been far from easy for the Republican party. Instead of enjoying the afterglow of victory, the party has contended with the fallout from the ascension of an inexperienced, unpredictable, enraged and lawless leader; opinion polls so low they’re breaking records; the halting of a key executive order by several courts.

And yet. In spite of this apparent opportunity, and in spite of the rise of a powerful resistance movement that has seen record numbers of Americans take to the streets, the course of the post-Hillary, post-Obama Democratic party is far from clear. As different factions work to identify what went wrong and rescue what remains, much is still in doubt, in particular, who is in charge. No one yet has taken the helm.

But last week, in the midst of the contentious confirmation hearing for the attorney general, Jefferson Sessions, a steely display of nerve by Senator Elizabeth Warren offered a glimpse of one possible hopeful future.

In 1986, Coretta Scott King, the widow of Martin Luther King, Jr, gave a statement to a Senate committee led by then-Senator Strom Thurmond, expressing her opposition to Sessions’s nomination for a federal judgeship. King was familiar with Sessions’s work in Alabama, her home, and in her statement she described his racism, writing that he had worked to disenfranchise black voters and that his promotion to the new role would “irreparably damage the work of my husband”.

In 1986, Thurmond failed to file the letter properly in congressional records, causing it to fade from the collective political memory. Sessions’s career continued to rise. But last Tuesday night, as Democrats battled to delay Sessions’s confirmation, Warren began to read King’s 1986 letter out loud, only to be silenced, first by the presiding Senate chair, Steve Daines, and then, when she continued on, by Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, who forced her to conclude her speech by citing an antiquated Senate rule that prevents one senator from “impugning” a colleague.

“She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted,” McConnell said of Warren and indeed she did; after being removed from the Senate floor, Warren went outside into a corridor and continued to read King’s statement in full, streaming it on Facebook Live. Sessions was confirmed on Wednesday, but a wave of support for Warren had already begun to rise up on the 45th president’s favourite communication channel: #LetLizSpeak was trending on Twitter.

It’s not a good time for men to silence a high-profile woman. Not when she’s reading the words of another widely respected woman. Not when the millions of women who took to the streets the day after the inauguration are arguably the best-organised political movement in this chaotic landscape. A movement that might just put its momentum behind a woman who is a bit left of Hillary, a little less socialist than Bernie, brilliant, articulate and indisputably tough. Will Elizabeth Warren persist all the way to the White House?

More https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/12/observer-profile-elizabeth-warren-democratic-party-donald-trump



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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:55 pm

nicko wrote:
Why are you so nasty Wolfie, don't you know your doing it?

Laughing

I know quite well what I'm doing here, nicko..

DYKbrain joined this forum with one goal in mind -- to spread his racist, fascist and misogynist bile on here, while causing as much disruption as possible  --  with never any intention of holding a civilised discussion on any topic..

I will return serve against him any time he spouts his vile and intolerable bulldust -- and doubly so, when he lies against Australia, or anyone in general, as he was doing yesterday..


A better question you should ask yourself, nicko --  how come it only upsets you when you see strong, mean or nasty rebukes against Deano and his floptards --  and yet you're never similarly worried about the much worse shite regularly spouted on here by DYK, Tommy, Nems, Raggs and company..

Is it only the upstart foreigners like Quill, veya Ben and myself, and those you perceive as too far left from yourself (e.g. Andy, sassy, Korben, eilzel), that readily upset you ???         scratch

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Post by nicko on Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:57 pm

quill, can't you see the insults he comes out with, or do you agree with them? I REALLY THOUGHT BETTER OF YOU.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren: emerging voice of America’s opposition

Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:58 pm

Deean wrote:you are reading too much into things. Perhaps it would have been better if I described her as a sour faced old boot. that has nothing to do with her age, but how she comes across.
Are you saying allegations of criminality have not followed the clintons for decades?

Old-boot? Old has nothing to do with age? It's a code, Dean. All of politics is today dog-whistles and codes.

Republican strategist Lee Atwater wrote the book on it. Here's what he said:

Lee Atwater wrote:You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

In order to understand politics you've got to speak code. Republicans have developed it to a science. Lee Atwater wrote the book. Republicans now have a school for teaching it: Citizens Conservative Network and the McCain Institute. Speech, Geo. Lakoff, Sonoma CA, Jan. 29, 2017. Read about it.

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Re: Elizabeth Warren: emerging voice of America’s opposition

Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:01 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
nicko wrote:
Why are you so nasty Wolfie, don't you know your doing it?

Laughing

I know quite well what I'm doing here, nicko..

DYKbrain joined this forum with one goal in mind -- to spread his racist, fascist and misogynist bile on here, while causing as much disruption as possible  --  with never any intention of holding a civilised discussion on any topic..

I will return serve against him any time he spouts his vile and intolerable bulldust -- and doubly so, when he lies against Australia, or anyone in general, as he was doing yesterday..

A better question you should ask yourself, nicko --  how come it only upsets you when you see strong, mean or nasty rebukes against Deano and his floptards --  and yet you're never similarly worried about the much worse shite regularly spouted on here by DYK, Tommy, Nems, Raggs and company..

Is it only the upstart foreigners like Quill, veya Ben and myself, and those you perceive as too far left from yourself (Andy, sassy, Korben, eilzel), that readily upset you ???
the only bile is coming from you luvvie.


the thing is you havent had a cohenrant original thought in all the abuse you have hurled at me, it is all second or third hand rubbish cobbled together from what the bigger boys have said over the years, most of which is utter bollox concocted from things they think they have heard when in fact most of it comes from the bile spread by the smear meister who has been booted out from here and t'other place.
you really just are not intelligent enough to come up with anything original yourself so in order to curry favour with the bigger boys you snap at my heels and they throw you the occasional cracker to make you feel big.
If you want to counter what I say then by all means have a go with some facts, not just a lot of playground taunts.
and in that vein

polly want a cracker.


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:02 pm

phil shiner wrote:
Deean wrote:you are reading too much into things. Perhaps it would have been better if I described her as a sour faced old boot. that has nothing to do with her age, but how she comes across.
Are you saying allegations of criminality have not followed the clintons for decades?

Old-boot?  Old has nothing to do with age?  It's a code, Dean.  All of politics is today dog-whistles and codes.

Republican strategist Lee Atwater wrote the book on it.  Here's what he said:

Lee Atwater wrote:You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

In order to understand politics you've got to speak code.  Republicans have developed it to a science.  Lee Atwater wrote the book.  Republicans now have a school for teaching it: Citizens Conservative Network and the McCain Institute.  Speech, Geo. Lakoff, Sonoma CA, Jan. 29, 2017.  Read about it.
you may do all that, us brits dont.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:08 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
phil shiner wrote:

Old-boot?  Old has nothing to do with age?  It's a code, Dean.  All of politics is today dog-whistles and codes.

Republican strategist Lee Atwater wrote the book on it.  Here's what he said:



In order to understand politics you've got to speak code.  Republicans have developed it to a science.  Lee Atwater wrote the book.  Republicans now have a school for teaching it: Citizens Conservative Network and the McCain Institute.  Speech, Geo. Lakoff, Sonoma CA, Jan. 29, 2017.  Read about it.
you may do all that, us brits dont.

I don't doubt you. You Brits don't have the undercurrent of evil running through your politics: slavery, become segregation and racism; guns; anti-government; white supremacy, etc. etc. Lee Atwater wrote what he said because he had to overcome the plain spoken American.

Do you wonder why I want to take California and just walk away?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:12 pm

Original Quill wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
you may do all that, us brits dont.

I don't doubt you.  You Brits don't have the undercurrent of evil running through your politics: slavery, become segregation and racism; guns; anti-government; white supremacy, etc. etc.  Lee Atwater wrote what he said because he had to overcome the plain spoken American.

Do you wonder why I want to take California and just walk away?

nope we stood up against that in the 1800's

dont worry a big part of california is just about to wash away due to lack of funding. #oroville

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:32 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I don't doubt you.  You Brits don't have the undercurrent of evil running through your politics: slavery, become segregation and racism; guns; anti-government; white supremacy, etc. etc.  Lee Atwater wrote what he said because he had to overcome the plain spoken American.

Do you wonder why I want to take California and just walk away?

nope we stood up against that in the 1800's

dont worry a big part of california is just about to wash away due to lack of funding. #oroville

Haha...I saw that.  Several years ago a group of us, including the Sierra Club, recommended shoring up that dam.  The Commission said No.  Now look.

It reminds me of our lawsuit after the crash of the Space Shuttle Challenger.  In the lawsuit we pointed out all of the safety defects with the Space Shuttle program. The Courts in the No. Dist. of Illinois (J. Milton Irving Shadur) said fook-off.  Then Columbia crashed.  Haha...where is NASA today?

God--whoever he is--has a way of getting his point across.

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