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Post by The Devil, You Know on Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:51 am

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we all agree on the need to better secure the border and punish employers who chose to hire illegal immigrants, we are a generous and welcoming people in the united states but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.
We simply cannot allow people to pour into the united states, undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country


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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:23 pm

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
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I reckon we should invite Tommy, nicko, DYKface and company to build a wall or fence along the Australian/Indonesian border...

I just hope they can swim  !!!

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you mean the ocean isn't a good enough barrier to open migration? you aren't that bright are you.


The world evolved past the any barriers, including the oceans.

You clearly are not that very bright

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:23 pm

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australia sends its illegals to an entirely different country


Misdirection, as Australia is just as bad.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:24 pm

Thorin wrote:
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are you suggesting that all the illegals in america that come from mexico go through a border post?


The majority enter legally

We have been through this before and shows how ineffective such a wall policy is.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:24 pm

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a recent terrorist attacker in france loved open borders as he passed through at least 3 before he was shot by italians.



How would have secure borders stopped him?

You might want to back out now on that own goal

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:24 pm

Thorin wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
are you suggesting that all the illegals in america that come from mexico go through a border post?


The majority enter legally

We have been through this before and shows how ineffective such a wall policy is.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:30 pm

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a recent terrorist attacker in france loved open borders as he passed through at least 3 before he was shot by italians.



How would have secure borders stopped him?

You might want to back out now on that own goal
he would have to have stopped at a border, where no doubt the border guards would have been on the look out for him.
As it was he drove through at least 3 without having to stop.

do you have a front door on your house?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:31 pm

Thorin wrote:
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are you suggesting that all the illegals in america that come from mexico go through a border post?


The majority enter legally

We have been through this before and shows how ineffective such a wall policy is.
not one of the illegal immigrants has entered legally. You insult every single one of those who go through legal procedures by associating them with those who dont.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:31 pm

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Thorin wrote:



How would have secure borders stopped him?

You might want to back out now on that own goal
he would have to have stopped at a border, where no doubt the border guards would have been on the look out for him.
As it was he drove through at least 3 without having to stop.

do you have a front door on your house?



Why would he have been stopped at any border?

Is everyone stopped?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:33 pm

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No its a bullshit load of bullshit and nothing to do with us already having plenty of immigrants here from all over the world and that we don't want or need any more... we're full!!!

A "bullshit load of bullshit?"  Not convincing, tommy.  It's because you are not logical.

You--the British--owe a debt.  Say I went to my banker, from whom I borrowed $xx-amount.  When he comes to collect, I say Oh, I don't owe it because that was yesterday.  You can't slip out of it that easily...ask any banker.

For centuries y'all went about building a colonial empire.  Immigration was all right them, because you were the immigrants.  But now when the tide has changed, you suddenly whine and cry...and try to convince others you are being treated unfairly.  You know what we call that?  A welsher:

Free Dictionary wrote:welsher - someone who swindles you by not repaying a debt or wager. welcher. chiseler, chiseller, defrauder, grifter, scammer, swindler, gouger - a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud.

Not a good reputation to have.

We don't owe anything. Perhaps your ancestors did, and now you do, according to your own logic, but we don't.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:33 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:


The majority enter legally

We have been through this before and shows how ineffective such a wall policy is.
not one of the illegal immigrants has entered legally. You insult every single one of those who go through legal procedures by associating them with those who dont.


Yes they have enter legally, many coming in on holidays or to visit relatives.


Glad I do insult all those who go through the legal system to you, even though I doubt many would share your claim on this.

What a daft misdirection load of drivel

Post up all enter illegally with evidence, or you are wrong?

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:34 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

A "bullshit load of bullshit?"  Not convincing, tommy.  It's because you are not logical.

You--the British--owe a debt.  Say I went to my banker, from whom I borrowed $xx-amount.  When he comes to collect, I say Oh, I don't owe it because that was yesterday.  You can't slip out of it that easily...ask any banker.

For centuries y'all went about building a colonial empire.  Immigration was all right them, because you were the immigrants.  But now when the tide has changed, you suddenly whine and cry...and try to convince others you are being treated unfairly.  You know what we call that?  A welsher:



Not a good reputation to have.

We don't owe anything. Perhaps your ancestors did, and now you do, according to your own logic, but we don't.


Actually you owe to the system you were born into and will never have the hope of ever paying back Rags, unless you win the lottery. By then giving them most of this money

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:36 pm

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what no one is going to have a go at the good old boy Bill because of his racist attitudes to johnny foreigner? It's pretty much what trump has said.

Perhaps you now understand why so many people think socialists are such utter hypocrites.

Both Clinton and Obama were doing fine in limiting illegal entry of foreigners into our lands.  They didn't need a wall.

That's why it makes no sense to build a wall.  It will cost upwards of $30-billion, and accomplish nothing whatsoever.  It is largely a symbolic gesture by a narcissistic minority-president, given to symbols and self-congratulation.   Methinks he's insecure.
clinton wanted to built a fence. isn't a fence a type of wall?
Clinton is saying pretty much the same as trump

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:37 pm

Thorin wrote:
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We don't owe anything. Perhaps your ancestors did, and now you do, according to your own logic, but we don't.


Actually you owe to the system you were born into and will never have the hope of ever paying back Rags, unless you win the lottery. By then giving them most of this money

I already pay - via tax and NI.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Actually you owe to the system you were born into and will never have the hope of ever paying back Rags, unless you win the lottery. By then giving them most of this money

I already pay - via tax and NI.


Not enough or even close to what the system pays for you

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The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Both Clinton and Obama were doing fine in limiting illegal entry of foreigners into our lands.  They didn't need a wall.

That's why it makes no sense to build a wall.  It will cost upwards of $30-billion, and accomplish nothing whatsoever.  It is largely a symbolic gesture by a narcissistic minority-president, given to symbols and self-congratulation.   Methinks he's insecure.
clinton wanted to built a fence. isn't a fence a type of wall?
Clinton is saying pretty much the same as trump


How on earth are you even arguing off as much of a liar as Trump for your defense?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:44 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I already pay - via tax and NI.


Not enough or even close to what the system pays for you

You don't know how much I pay. Anyway, your post was a red herring - my post was in reply to Quill's post.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:46 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Not enough or even close to what the system pays for you

You don't know how much I pay. Anyway, your post was a red herring - my post was in reply to Quill's post.


Its minuscule to what the state will pay towards you throughout your life

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:50 pm

Thorin wrote:
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You don't know how much I pay. Anyway, your post was a red herring - my post was in reply to Quill's post.


Its minuscule to what the state will pay towards you throughout your life

You don't know that.

Anyway, it's totally irrelevant. I was replying to Quill, who claimed that Brits owe other country. I don't agree with that - they should be grateful for what they have because of the Brits.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:54 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Its minuscule to what the state will pay towards you throughout your life

You don't know that.

Anyway, it's totally irrelevant. I was replying to Quill, who claimed that Brits owe other country. I don't agree with that - they should be grateful for what they have because of the Brits.


In fact i do know that.

How much did you pay into the state from the ages of your birth until, you were 18?

How much did it cost in schooling, health etc?

How many times have you been to the GP?

Do you know how much that costs Rags?

Do you want me to go on?

What you pay is minuscule and does not even come close to what you cost the state in your lifetime

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:58 pm

Which is an argument against allowing immigrants to come here and drain the state further...

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Which is an argument against allowing immigrants to come here and drain the state further...


Ah, but they end up costing less Tommy, so its an argument for them

As they have already been through education and through the ages of 0-18, where many will need plenty of health care

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:10 am

Thorin wrote:
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you mean the ocean isn't a good enough barrier to open migration? you aren't that bright are you.


The world evolved past the any barriers, including the oceans.

You clearly are not that very bright

Laughing

Deano obviously isn't following this thread too closely...

Otherwise he wouldn't have been so foolish as to try and use my own jibe there to insult me..

Only to make himself look that much sillier in the process !

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:16 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:


The world evolved past the any barriers, including the oceans.

You clearly are not that very bright

Laughing

Deano obviously isn't following this thread too closely...

Otherwise he wouldn't have been so foolish as to try and use my own jibe there to insult me..

Only to make himself look that much sillier in the process  !


lol. he did a right own goal on that post, hence why he retreated very quickly on this.

lol!


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:18 pm

Thorin wrote:
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clinton wanted to built a fence. isn't a fence a type of wall?
Clinton is saying pretty much the same as trump


How on earth are you even arguing off as much of a liar as Trump for your defense?
Sorry I put that through an english translator and it still came out as gibberish

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:19 pm

Thorin wrote:
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You don't know how much I pay. Anyway, your post was a red herring - my post was in reply to Quill's post.


Its minuscule to what the state will pay towards you throughout your life
so you are in fact saying that immigrants and especially illegal ones are a drain on the taxpayer then?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:21 pm

Thorin wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Laughing

Deano obviously isn't following this thread too closely...

Otherwise he wouldn't have been so foolish as to try and use my own jibe there to insult me..

Only to make himself look that much sillier in the process  !


lol. he did a right own goal on that post, hence why he retreated very quickly on this.

lol!

I do chortle at how you always think you win every argument, when you can barely string a coherent sentence together.,

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Post by Angry Andy on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:31 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:


The world evolved past the any barriers, including the oceans.

You clearly are not that very bright

Laughing

Deano obviously isn't following this thread too closely...

Otherwise he wouldn't have been so foolish as to try and use my own jibe there to insult me..

Only to make himself look that much sillier in the process  !
head hasn't time to read every thread.
He's far too occupied on his uber busy flop site

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:42 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:
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You don't know how much I pay. Anyway, your post was a red herring - my post was in reply to Quill's post.


Its minuscule to what the state will pay towards you throughout your life

You don't know that.

Anyway, it's totally irrelevant. I was replying to Quill, who claimed that Brits owe other country. I don't agree with that - they should be grateful for what they have because of the Brits.

That attitude is what is wrong with Brits

YOU ARE A NATIONAL OF INVADERS AND THIEVES THAT SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY REPARATIONS TO MOST OF THE WORLD!!
the Good peoples are not grateful for having their cultures destroyed and demonized, nations raped and pillaged by Barbarian Brits that Bullshit themselves into believing they were ever civilized!!!
the UK fought against freedom and democracy through out history, it is only the rise of the USA that has allowed the good things, Under UK dominion the world was shit

Brits have no right to whinge about getting invaded or migrants or anything why they have this attitude!!!

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:43 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Both Clinton and Obama were doing fine in limiting illegal entry of foreigners into our lands.  They didn't need a wall.

That's why it makes no sense to build a wall.  It will cost upwards of $30-billion, and accomplish nothing whatsoever.  It is largely a symbolic gesture by a narcissistic minority-president, given to symbols and self-congratulation.   Methinks he's insecure.
clinton wanted to built a fence. isn't a fence a type of wall?

No, there are already fences. This dip-shit started talking wall, because it sounded pretty. Now, he's got the dumb-shit Trumpster Rednecks believing that he's on to something. I never said conservatives were dumb; I said dumb people were conservative!

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:23 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You don't know that.

Anyway, it's totally irrelevant. I was replying to Quill, who claimed that Brits owe other country. I don't agree with that - they should be grateful for what they have because of the Brits.

That attitude is what is wrong with Brits

YOU ARE A NATIONAL OF INVADERS AND THIEVES THAT SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY REPARATIONS TO MOST OF THE WORLD!!
the Good peoples are not grateful for having their cultures destroyed and demonized, nations raped and pillaged by Barbarian Brits that Bullshit themselves into believing they were ever civilized!!!
the UK fought against freedom and democracy through out history, it is only the rise of the USA that has allowed the good things, Under UK dominion the world was shit

Brits have no right to whinge about getting invaded or migrants or anything why they have this attitude!!!
scratch

I wonder what it actually is that Ragg's believes that the British Imperial invaders gave to the poor backward and uncivilised countries that they colonised  ???

Loss of their homeland
Pillage and plunder of natural resources
The rape and murder of women, children and wildlife
A few new diseases (smallpox, diptheria, cholera, syphilus, gonorhoea..)
The opportunity to provide low-cost slave labour to British-owned farms and mines ?

Sure, the British empire often left behind a new parliamentary system, and a court system..

But only after taking $$billions$$ worth of gold, diamonds, coal, iron ore, exotic timbers, opium, tea, wool and wheat --  without paying anywhere near a proper price for it !          Only to see the British 'establishment'/Aristocracy/Royals subsequently fritter away most of their ill-gotten gains..

And to date, the British have offered virtually zero in reparations to those displaced native peoples --  leaving it to those former "colonial/empire" countries themselves to repair the damages done by their former "colonial masters"..         Arrow

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:58 am

down here they didn't do shit except leave a Queen's representative that has only ever interfered to sack the Prime minister that Gave the Aboriginals back their land.

they merely granted us 'Self rule' from within their evil empire.(to prevent a US style revolution)
we did the rest, Which saw women get the vote in many states long before anywhere else in the empire. Plus things like workers rights and the 8 hour work day are actually Aussie inventions thought up and first instituted down here, because the other thing they gave us was Suffering, something we have worked to reduce for all our peoples ever since. given sometimes we have made mistakes towards the aboriginals, like the stolen generation, but at least the idea was meant to make it better for them and have eventually even if it did cost the PM his job we did start to give them back some of what was stolen by the British aristocracy.

Interesting they denied the Irish self rule, until the Revolutionary IRA took freedom fro themselves from British oppressors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence

Britain is so Seeped in Bullshit that they think it is history, no one has any reason to grateful for the British Barbarity. good things occurred only after nations like the USA, Australia and NZ threw off the yoke of the British oppression. these eventually spread to Europe and Britain her self, Yet the bullshit artists like to pretend they gave them to us cause they let us rule ourselves Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by nicko on Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:41 am

IT's a wonder you two can walk with the massive chips on your shoulders.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:46 pm



Blame the people who were there and their descendants who still occupy the lands...



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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Blame the people who were there and their descendants who still occupy the lands...



we do but they ARE PAYING REPARATIONS
not telling the aboriginals they should be grateful!!!!

Don't want Blame Stop Whinging about your position and Start trying to fix those you stepped on to get to that position.
Cause twats like you don't seem to understand YOU ANCESTORS are the ones that caused and profited from suffering AND YOU DON'T KNOW suffering at all

AND it was in your life time up until the 1970's British aristocrats where stealing from aboriginals

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:21 pm

nicko wrote:IT's a wonder you two can walk with the massive chips on your shoulders.

Fuck off you piece of Shit you get upset when People say YOUR NOT THE BEST

And you expect us to take it when people say we should be grateful for being Raped

You are a Hypocritical fuckwit

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Post by nicko on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:47 am

YAWN AND YAWN AGAIN !!!!
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Post by eddie on Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:59 pm

This thread has become a parody of itself.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:15 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Blame the people who were there and their descendants who still occupy the lands...



we do but they ARE PAYING REPARATIONS
not telling the aboriginals they should be grateful!!!!

Don't want Blame Stop Whinging about your position and Start trying to fix those you stepped on to get to that position.
Cause twats like you don't seem to understand YOU ANCESTORS are the ones that caused and profited from suffering AND YOU DON'T KNOW suffering at all

AND it was in your life time up until the 1970's British aristocrats where stealing from aboriginals

It's not our ancestors, it's your ancestors. If my ancestors were in Australia, I wouldn't be in the UK would I?

You always try to pass the buck, but that's because of your hatred of English people. Surely everyone must see through you by now.

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Post by Miffs2 on Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:27 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
nicko wrote:IT's a wonder you two can walk with the massive chips on your shoulders.

Fuck off you piece of Shit you get upset when People say YOUR NOT THE BEST

And you expect us to take it when people say we should be grateful for being Raped

You are a Hypocritical fuckwit

Just a tad OTT Laughing
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

we do but they ARE PAYING REPARATIONS
not telling the aboriginals they should be grateful!!!!

Don't want Blame Stop Whinging about your position and Start trying to fix those you stepped on to get to that position.
Cause twats like you don't seem to understand YOU ANCESTORS are the ones that caused and profited from suffering AND YOU DON'T KNOW suffering at all

AND it was in your life time up until the 1970's British aristocrats where stealing from aboriginals

It's not our ancestors, it's your ancestors. If my ancestors were in Australia, I wouldn't be in the UK would I?

You always try to pass the buck, but that's because of your hatred of English people. Surely everyone must see through you by now.

You bring up a good point, there Raggs.  In fact, it doesn't matter whose ancestors they were.  It was your culture.  It was the ideological framework in which such could happen.

I'm not big on this discussion of the blame game...you might have noticed.  But I am interested in historical causation, particularly since it led to the institution of slavery, which has transmuted into abject racism, in my nation.  You, as an individual, are just a young turk of the historic culture; you're a nobody. There Australians and Canadians far more to be regarded as elders of the culture (and wiser) than you.  The culture is not all on them.  Neither is it all on you.  But you are both spawn of the same ideology that created all of this that you call English or British.

So, rather than this specious blame game, you might more productively ask, How did this come to be?? I think it's far more productive to ask it that way.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:33 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It's not our ancestors, it's your ancestors. If my ancestors were in Australia, I wouldn't be in the UK would I?

You always try to pass the buck, but that's because of your hatred of English people. Surely everyone must see through you by now.

You bring up a good point, there Raggs.  In fact, it doesn't matter whose ancestors they were.  It was your culture.  It was the ideological framework in which such could happen.

I'm not big on this discussion of the blame game...you might have noticed.  But I am interested in historical causation, particularly since it led to the institution of slavery, which has transmuted into abject racism, in my nation.  You, as an individual, are just a young turk of the historic culture; you're a nobody.  There Australians and Canadians far more to be regarded as elders of the culture (and wiser) than you.  The culture is not all on them.  Neither is it all on you.  But you are both spawn of the same ideology that created all of this that you call English or British.

So, rather than this specious blame game, you might more productively ask, How did this come to be??  I think it's far more productive to ask it that way.

Of course I brought up a good point. You would do better to address the rest of your post to Veya and his chum. Whatever happened was clearly in their "culture".

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:40 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You bring up a good point, there Raggs.  In fact, it doesn't matter whose ancestors they were.  It was your culture.  It was the ideological framework in which such could happen.

I'm not big on this discussion of the blame game...you might have noticed.  But I am interested in historical causation, particularly since it led to the institution of slavery, which has transmuted into abject racism, in my nation.  You, as an individual, are just a young turk of the historic culture; you're a nobody.  There Australians and Canadians far more to be regarded as elders of the culture (and wiser) than you.  The culture is not all on them.  Neither is it all on you.  But you are both spawn of the same ideology that created all of this that you call English or British.

So, rather than this specious blame game, you might more productively ask, How did this come to be??  I think it's far more productive to ask it that way.

Of course I brought up a good point. You would do better to address the rest of your post to Veya and his chum. Whatever happened was clearly in their "culture".

No, actually it's addressed to all who are having this conversation.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:43 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Of course I brought up a good point. You would do better to address the rest of your post to Veya and his chum. Whatever happened was clearly in their "culture".

No, actually it's addressed to all who are having this conversation.

No it's not, it's addressed to me. Kindly address it to the correct person who keeps on blaming Brits for everything.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

No, actually it's addressed to all who are having this conversation.

No it's not, it's addressed to me. Kindly address it to the correct person who keeps on blaming Brits for everything.

You brought it up. You are a participant in the conversation. Y'all need to think about it.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:06 pm

Original Quill wrote:
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No it's not, it's addressed to me. Kindly address it to the correct person who keeps on blaming Brits for everything.

You brought it up.  You are a participant in the conversation.  Y'all need to think about it.

Veya brought it up - I replied to him. If you're scared of him, fair enough. I guess I'm just more approachable, and you feel you can push me around more. Razz

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You brought it up.  You are a participant in the conversation.  Y'all need to think about it.

Veya brought it up - I replied to him. If you're scared of him, fair enough. I guess I'm just more approachable, and you feel you can push me around more. Razz

Why do you think it's adversarial? I was merely coarse-correcting. The conversation was going awry with meaningless accusations back and forth.

If you don't see the message here, I've at least done what I can.

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Post by nicko on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Hello Veya, did I touch a nerve there? I can wind you up like a yo yo,
and watch you act like a petulant adolescent !

If I met you face to face you'd shit yourself, braggers like yourself i'v scraped off my shoe and hardly noticed, except for the smell.
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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:25 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Veya brought it up - I replied to him. If you're scared of him, fair enough. I guess I'm just more approachable, and you feel you can push me around more. Razz

Why do you think it's adversarial?  I was merely coarse-correcting.  The conversation was going awry with meaningless accusations back and forth.

If you don't see the message here, I've at least done what I can.

So address the person who started it. This was Veya addressing Tommy.

Cause twats like you don't seem to understand YOU ANCESTORS are the ones that caused and profited from suffering AND YOU DON'T KNOW suffering at all

Of course you won't address Veya because you're like him - you love to blame Brits for everything.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:59 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Why do you think it's adversarial?  I was merely coarse-correcting.  The conversation was going awry with meaningless accusations back and forth.

If you don't see the message here, I've at least done what I can.

So address the person who started it. This was Veya addressing Tommy.

Cause twats like you don't seem to understand YOU ANCESTORS are the ones that caused and profited from suffering AND YOU DON'T KNOW suffering at all

Of course you won't address Veya because you're like him - you love to blame Brits for everything.

You are carrying on the same antagonism, proving that you wish to be a part of the problem, not the cure. This, then, is not my problem. Ta...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:07 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So address the person who started it. This was Veya addressing Tommy.



Of course you won't address Veya because you're like him - you love to blame Brits for everything.

You are carrying on the same antagonism, proving that you wish to be a part of the problem, not the cure.  This, then, is not my problem.  Ta...

You have a problem in that you can't help trolling and sticking your beak in to defend your racist, xenophobic, abusive mates.

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