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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:45 pm

President Trump held his most contentious call yet with a supposed ally late Wednesday. During a call with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull reports suggest both men forcefully expressed their views, before the call was abruptly ended. According to a report in The Washington Post, Trump blasted his “ally” for a refugee agreement between the two countries, and bragged about his electoral win before ending the conversation nearly 30 minutes early. Sources close to Turnbull told Sky News Australia that the Australian leader hit back when Trump lost his cool. Trump is a “bully” and “to combat a bully, you need to bully back,” insiders said. Turnbull admitted he had spoken “candidly” and “frankly” with Trump. “I do stand up for Australia. My job is to defend Australian interests,” he said. Trump had reportedly told Turnbull that among the other calls he’d had with world leaders—including Russian President Vladimir Putin—that day, “This was the worst call by far.” Speaking about a deal for the United States to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center, Trump allegedly complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused the country of trying to export the “next Boston bombers.” Trump tweeted late Wednesday: “Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal!”


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Blimey, he is sure going out of his way to piss everyone off.
Its like he is on a mission of self destruction for the US

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:55 pm

Good for Turnbull.  The noose tightens as Trump finds individuals that he can't bully.

Imagine four years of this...how any people are going to hate him.

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Re: Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull Stands Up to ‘Bully’ Trump

Post by Guest on Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:Good for him.  The noose tightens as Trump finds individuals that he can't bully.

Imagine four years of this...how any people are going to hate him.


Its incredible Quill, its as if he is deliberately committing political suicide, or that he thinks he can push everyone around. A sign of a true dictator

Did you see the picture?

What do you notice from this official photo of the Phone conversation with the Aussie PM?




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Post by Original Quill on Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:48 pm

Thorin wrote:Its incredible Quill, its as if he is deliberately committing political suicide, or that he thinks he can push everyone around. A sign of a true dictator

I think it's just an incredible confluence of circumstances: a bunch of white-supremacists and motorcycle gang members get together and vote for him, and in just three states the districts are so contorted that it turns the electoral college. The things he said (and still says) feed the base: pussy-grabber, yellow shower, mocking disabled people, talking down to minorities, calling them criminals and rapists, vilifying religions, doing away with NATO, nuclear-rearming Europe, invading nations for their natural resources. These things are now normalized in American political jargon. And all because of a confluence of a couple of otherwise inconsequential events. After all, he lost by 10-million votes. Who would have figured the chances?

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Post by Syl on Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:52 pm

Good for Turnbull.

If only Theresa May had been so forthright.
I'm still hoping she is going by a different method though...she may (hopefully) detest the man and his values, but she is working her womanly wiles to make her point rather than going straight in for the jugular.

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Re: Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull Stands Up to ‘Bully’ Trump

Post by Guest on Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:01 pm

Did anyone notice he was giving the finger whilst on the phone?

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Post by Syl on Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Lol....I think it's just the way he is holding the phone, though with him........

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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:22 pm

Syl wrote:Lol....I think it's just the way he is holding the phone, though with him........

Could be the case, then again, he could be giving the finger to the Aussie leader

Would not put it past him Syl

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:13 pm

I've Told you Aussies Don't take shit from Nazi wannabes.

G'Day

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Post by eddie on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:25 pm

I think that you will see many more "signs" from Trump in the coming weeks.

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Re: Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull Stands Up to ‘Bully’ Trump

Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:42 pm

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/malcolm-turnbull-vs-donald-trump-us-president-gets-tough-over-refugee-deal/news-story/c2e228536a281870c105abc0d140c3a8

It also emerged Republican Senator John McCain called Australian Ambassador to the US, Joe Hockey, to smooth over relations.

“I called Australia’s ambassador to the United States this morning to express my unwavering support for the US-Australia alliance,” Senator McCain, who has frequently criticised Mr Trump, said in a statement.

Senator McCain added that he asked Mr Hockey to “convey to the people of Australia” that Americans valued their alliance, “honour the sacrifice of the Australians who have served and are serving by our side, and remain committed to the safer, freer, and better world that Australia does far more than its fair share to protect and promote”.

for the record I don't even support the deal, the RW made a rod for their own backs, To be fair Turnbull has inherited this rod from Abbott. they have made such a big deal that they will "Not take refugees that arrive by boat" that they cant back down or they will lose their base.

This has actually been great for the LW, so we have just been quiet and let them do what we wanted, they have had to significantly increase refugee intake from UN camps to stop the couple of thousand that arrived undocumented via boat they have ended up taking 10,000's more through UN programs

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Re: Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull Stands Up to ‘Bully’ Trump

Post by Lord Foul on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:44 pm

I can but imagine the conversation

it would have been interesting to be a "fly on the wall"

trump ought to have known better...
there goes Americas "unsinkable aircraft carrier in the southern ocean"


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Post by Original Quill on Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:16 pm

Judging by Trump's tweets, Turnbull got under his skin, So much for the art of the deal. Razz

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:54 pm

Idea

The very fact that Trump is making such juvenile and idiotic Tweets, after the event --  and quite at odds with his own officials, advisors and the US Ambassador to Oz --  only goes to prove what an unbalanced and unthinking "loose cannon" he is...

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:57 pm

Original Quill wrote:Judging by Trump's tweets, Turnbull got under his skin,  So much for the art of the deal. Razz

Turnbull is a much better businessman
he started with a lot less than Путин Америки(above average but not super rich parents)

journo to lawyer to Business mogul
http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/meet-malcolm/biography

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:35 am

should we classify the USA as a rogue state now.....or later....


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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:24 am

Lord Foul wrote:should we classify the USA as a rogue state now.....or later....



yeah,
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Rouge Statesman hair if there ever was Cool Cool Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:28 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Idea

The very fact that Trump is making such juvenile and idiotic Tweets, after the event --  and quite at odds with his own officials, advisors and the US Ambassador to Oz --  only goes to prove what an unbalanced and unthinking "loose cannon" he is...

Does it remind you of Trump with Megyn Kelley? Gets under his skin, and whamo...he's in a fight with someone.

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:28 am

But Malcom has too much class to be drawn in
He is saying He wont comment on the phone call
and has been using very diplomatic language.
But in a way that lets everyone know he is Just being as professional as a nations leader should be.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:35 am

Lord Foul wrote:should we classify the USA as a rogue state now.....or later....


Now would be appropriate, you'll have noticed how the flag is flying on our site logo.

And you can blame the people who felt so bad about being homophobic and not having tried quinoa that their only recourse was to put an incompetent egomaniac in charge of the U.S. foreign policy, military, nuclear arsenal, intelligence community, etc., etc., ...

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:50 am

Oh, and the word is that Trump hung up on Turnbull in anger, like a teenager.

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:10 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Oh, and the word is that Trump hung up on Turnbull in anger, like a teenager.

and when asked if that was true
Turnbull said "there was an abrupt end to he conversation"
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:13 am

Or maybe Trump just stood his ground and said ' I don't want these people here ' they are Australia's rejected refugees - why would America want them ?

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:18 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Or maybe Trump just stood his ground and said ' I don't want these people here ' they are Australia's rejected refugees - why would America want them ?

Rolling Eyes

More revisionist bulldust...

You really don't have a clue..

You arrogant dimwit.

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:19 am

[quote="WhoseYourWolfie"]
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Or maybe Trump just stood his ground and said ' I don't want these people here ' they are Australia's rejected refugees - why would America want them ?

Rolling Eyes

More revisionist bulldust...

You really don't have a clue..

You arrogant dimwit.[/quote

http://www.vdare.com/posts/obama-countdown-us-accepts-Muslim-refugees-australia-rejected

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:43 am



VoD the fascist lover gives a link to a fascist blogsite...

What a surprise..

Not.

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:35 pm

Australia doesn't want rejects so they want to dump them on America . Basketball

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Post by nicko on Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:43 pm

That's how I read it.
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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:48 pm

nicko wrote:That's how I read it.

I think the President is right in saying he doesn't want those people .

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:45 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Australia doesn't want rejects so they want to dump them on America . Basketball

Cool

As a matter of fact...

That scenario would greatly improve both the average I.Q. and the overall standards of both countries by doing so..

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:55 pm

Well I think he is a good President - just not doing things like every other President has done .

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Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Well I think he is a good President - just not doing things like every other President has done .

Well I'm not going to jump all over your opinion but I will say you cannot possibly know if he's a good president yet as nothing has actually happened. Going by his recent past though, I'm not seeing how you can come to that conclusion.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:59 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Well I think he is a good President - just not doing things like every other President has done .



Of course you do...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:13 pm

So Turnbull wanted to dump a load of refugees on the US rather than take them in? Why can't the Aussies take them in? I thought they were caring and sharing people - according to the Aussies on here.

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:17 pm

Syl wrote:Good for Turnbull.

If only Theresa May had been so forthright.
I'm still hoping she is going by a different method though...she may (hopefully) detest the man and his values, but she is working her womanly wiles to make her point rather than going straight in for the jugular.

I don't want Theresa May to detest him - that's judging someone before knowing them first and nobody can tell what the President will be like every one is just picking on everything he does , why not let him do his job first before condemning him . Fair is fair after all Obama and the other presidents were given a chance .

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:21 pm

eddie wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Well I think he is a good President - just not doing things like every other President has done .

Well I'm not going to jump all over your opinion but I will say you cannot possibly know if he's a good president yet as nothing has actually happened. Going by his recent past though, I'm not seeing how you can come to that conclusion.

Who can tell if he will be a bad President - he isn't being given a chance is he.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:42 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
eddie wrote:

Well I'm not going to jump all over your opinion but I will say you cannot possibly know if he's a good president yet as nothing has actually happened. Going by his recent past though, I'm not seeing how you can come to that conclusion.

Who can tell if he will be a bad President - he isn't being given a chance is he.

He's already fooked up big time in Yemen. A raid that the more savvy Obama nixed. Cost the life of one highly trained seal. Lost one expensive aircraft. Killed many civilians. Accomplished nothing.

Seen enough? How many Benghazi's do you want to give him?

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Post by Miffs2 on Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:45 am

Raggamuffin wrote:So Turnbull wanted to dump a load of refugees on the US rather than take them in? Why can't the Aussies take them in? I thought they were caring and sharing people - according to the Aussies on here.

That's what I was going to say. Can anyone explain why Australia was trying to offload these people to America?
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Post by nicko on Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:25 pm

Lets ask Veya @ Wolfie.
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Post by Original Quill on Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:29 pm

These people are not middle easterners, but rather boat people from Papua and New Guinea. Australia is overloaded with them, and in deal with the US, the latter agreed to take some in.

Trump is trying to liken them to middle easterners, but they are not. Trump is basically anti-foreigner...look out UK, you're next. Twisted Evil

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Re: Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull Stands Up to ‘Bully’ Trump

Post by nicko on Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:00 pm

WE'LL have to invade him. Laughing
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Post by Guest on Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:13 pm

nicko wrote:WE'LL have to invade him. Laughing


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lol!


I would reckon given the choice at present many US citizens would prefer to be governed by the UK..

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:02 am

Original Quill wrote:These people are not middle easterners, but rather boat people from Papua and New Guinea.  Australia is overloaded with them, and in deal with the US, the latter agreed to take some in.

Trump is trying to liken them to middle easterners, but they are not.  Trump is basically anti-foreigner...look out UK, you're next. Twisted Evil

They are not from papua new guinea Originally
Aussies picked them up trying to land on our coast.
We have a deal with a few south pacific nations (including Papua new Guinea)
they let us build detention centers, to keep 'illegal immigrants' while they are processed as real refugees or not (majority are found to be legit)

Long back story 20 years in the making but basically come down to the right of appeal, If they were in Australia They'd be able to appeal all the way up through the court chains costing fuck tonnes , and RW John Howard hit on that as a way to angry up the blood of hill shepherds and get them to vote for him. Then 9/11 happened and terrorism became the reason Australia was being a bunch on inhumane geranium.
despite the fact that this is stupid as most illegal migrant in Australia arrive via plane with tourist visas and just stay after they expire. It continues to be the RW coalitions policy and labour didn't do much to fix it last time Neutral they softened it but then Abbott got elected and made it stupidly restricted.
Tony Abbott Made a big song and Dance About NEVER letting anyone that tried to get here by boat illegally(yes the aboriginals had a good laugh at the one too Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes ) Even if they were later found to be legitimate refugees, (the fallacious argument is that it is too dangerous and supported people smugglers, there had been some fatal disaster that the media made a bid deal out of because they hated Gillard)

So we ended up with all these legitimate refugees that the RW gov't wont let in for political reasons
that have filled up the detention centers and legally we are supposed to resettle then somewhere.

LW have generally allowed it because every time there has been a outed as being nasty geranium they have gone 'no where not look we'll increase refugee intake from UN camps by x%' so we are taking more refugees then ever but NONE via boat and to that end the amount of boat arrivals has dropped, Possibly Abbot that hounded Gilliard about Boats arrivals and the numbers, stopped the reporting of the amount of boats and started a policy to catch them in international waters and tow them straight to one of the detention centers.


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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:09 am

Raggamuffin wrote:So Turnbull wanted to dump a load of refugees on the US rather than take them in? Why can't the Aussies take them in? I thought they were caring and sharing people - according to the Aussies on here.

As explained above...

Also Obama made the deal that we had to take 2 from UN camps for everyone of these boat arrivals the US takes.

So we can take them, But dumb ass hill shepherd think that coming by boat makes them bad,
I don't under stand why any more than i under stand why the brexiter wants to ruin their economy confused confused confused
Possibly genetic memory of what happened to the locals when a bunch poor down trodden people arrived on the tall ships in 1788 Wink
Either that or they are just cowardly pea brained hill shepherds Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:11 am

And most tend to be from Indian subcontinent or Middle east Neutral

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