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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:51 am



Police arrest two students – one 'of Moroccan origin' - over the murder of six people shot dead in a Quebec City mosque carnage two days after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html#ixzz4XFEO6YkV


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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:54 am

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Police arrest two students – one 'of Moroccan origin' - over the murder of six people shot dead in a Quebec City mosque carnage two days after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html#ixzz4XFEO6YkV




And you think that justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:03 pm

Thorin wrote:
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Police arrest two students – one 'of Moroccan origin' - over the murder of six people shot dead in a Quebec City mosque carnage two days after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html#ixzz4XFEO6YkV




And you think that justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?
I think you should read what is actually the case and not what you want it to be.

but nice avoiding the issue here.

This shooting has been blamed on trumps ban( not a ban) all day and now it turns out it was 2 newly arrived immigrants who shot up the place. My guess would be they are sunni's and the mosque is shia.
the only people sunni's hate more than westerners are shias.

the daily beast even went as far as naming 2 white suprematists as the shooters, fake news site?????


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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:04 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:


And you think that justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?
I think you should read what is actually the case and not what you want it to be.



You mean your conflicting tweet with the media claim as to the suspects origins?

I will rephrase the question

And "do you" think that this justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?

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Thorin wrote:
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I think you should read what is actually the case and not what you want it to be.



You mean your conflicting tweet with the media claim as to the suspects origins?

I will rephrase the question

And "do you" think that this justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?
I think had those "immigrants" been properly vetted 8 or 9 people might not be dead today.


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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:08 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:


You mean your conflicting tweet with the media claim as to the suspects origins?

I will rephrase the question

And "do you" think that this justifies banning Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries?
I think had those "immigrants" been properly vetted 8 or 9 people might not be dead today.





You said they were immigrants?

I read very different on this..

They told CBC's French language service Radio-Canada the attackers had a native accent and yelled "Allahu akbar" as they opened fire.


http://news.sky.com/story/gunshots-fired-inside-mosque-in-canada-reports-10748247

How many immigrants do you know that have a native accent?

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any country in the world has a right to say who can enter.,
Try being israeli and going to a host of islamic country's. you wont get through the gate.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:11 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:any country in the world has a right to say who can enter.,
Try being jewish and going to a host of islamic country's. you wont get through the gate.

Can they?
I suggest you check what the international law is and what the US has signed up to.
Nobody is against vetting and as i see you refuse to answer my questions, you back the discrimination of Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries by a ban?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:13 pm

Thorin wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:any country in the world has a right to say who can enter.,
Try being jewish and going to a host of islamic country's. you wont get through the gate.

Can they?
I suggest you check what the international law is and what the US has signed up to.
Nobody is against vetting and as i see you refuse to answer my questions, you back the discrimination of Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries by a ban?
except the thousands marching against trumps vetting.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:14 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Try being israeli and going to a host of islamic country's. you wont get through the gate.

So your justification for this ban, is to be as Totalitarian as places like Iran and Saudi.
In other words claiming two wrongs make a right

About as stupid as it gets really, so you are blaming all citizens in these countries, for the actions of their Governments.

Wow, score on that failed guilt by association

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:15 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Can they?
I suggest you check what the international law is and what the US has signed up to.
Nobody is against vetting and as i see you refuse to answer my questions, you back the discrimination of Christians, Muslims, Yizidi's, Druze, Kurds, women, children, homosexuals etc from selective Muslim majority countries by a ban?
except the thousands marching against trumps vetting.

So you are against freedom of expression then?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:19 pm

Thorin wrote:
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except the thousands marching against trumps vetting.

So you are against freedom of expression then?
extremely for it, just like people to be honest why they are protesting.

wah wah wah snowflake

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:21 pm

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So you are against freedom of expression then?
extremely for it, just like people to be honest why they are protesting.

wah wah wah snowflake

So why are you moaning about them protesting?

If you are against their views on vetting, does that mean they have no right to protest?

Seems the only wet fish here is you it seems, that backs banning people based on the systems we find in Iran and Saudi, but then you do also live in a authoritarian regime in Turkey. So its no surprise how far right you have becoome

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:24 pm

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Police arrest two students – one 'of Moroccan origin' - over the murder of six people shot dead in a Quebec City mosque carnage two days after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html#ixzz4XFEO6YkV




You don't keep your people safe by allowing in terrorists!

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:25 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:


Police arrest two students – one 'of Moroccan origin' - over the murder of six people shot dead in a Quebec City mosque carnage two days after Canadian PM condemned Trump immigration ban

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html#ixzz4XFEO6YkV




You don't keep your people safe by allowing in terrorists!

So by your methodology, anyone who is a a risk to commit violence would render any person other than most children, void from entering any country, being as both women and men murder?
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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 pm

But that is just not true. A new study from Duke University sociologist Charles Kurzman, which tallies up the data on terrorist attacks committed by Muslim Americans, shows why.
The study found that only 46 Muslim Americans (defined as “Muslims who lived in the US for an extended period”) were linked to violent extremism at home or abroad in 2016. The total Muslim American population is 3.3 million.

Of those 46, only 24 were actually implicated in a concrete terrorist plot (the others did things like attempting to travel to Syria to join ISIS). Those plots claimed 54 lives, the vast majority of which (49) came in a single attack — the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

The study isn’t making an apples-to-apples comparison; the more directly relevant statistic would look at whether or not Muslim Americans kill more US citizens here than any other specific political or religious group (other research has looked at that question). But Kurzman’s work vividly underscores a simple fact: Muslim Americans, in both raw terms and as a percentage of size of their total community, commit very small numbers of killings.

By contrast, roughly 11,000 Americans were killed in gun homicides in 2016 — yet Trump has never said anything about creating a registry of gun owners.


http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/27/14412420/terrorism-Muslims-america-islam-trump


So based on Tommy's view, we should never allow Americans to enter the UK?

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:22 pm

Thorin wrote:
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extremely for it, just like people to be honest why they are protesting.

wah wah wah snowflake

So why are you moaning about them protesting?

If you are against their views on vetting, does that mean they have no right to protest?

Seems the only wet fish here is you it seems, that backs banning people based on the systems we find in Iran and Saudi, but then you do also live in a authoritarian regime in Turkey. So its no surprise how far right you have becoome

where have I been moaning about them protesting, thats your fake news again.

I said it would be nice for them to be honest as to why they are protesting.

however despite your diversion and attempts to avoid the topic, this shooting was nothing to do with trump and all to do with immigrants arriving who are more than willing to commit violence against, in this case , other Muslims.
but I suppose you only see what you want to see.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:23 pm

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You don't keep your people safe by allowing in terrorists!

So by your methodology, anyone who is a a risk to commit violence would render any person other than most children, void from entering any country, being as both women and men murder?
Correct?
islamic terrorist are not opposed to using children to explode in crowds.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:25 pm

Thorin wrote:But that is just not true. A new study from Duke University sociologist Charles Kurzman, which tallies up the data on terrorist attacks committed by Muslim Americans, shows why.
The study found that only 46 Muslim Americans (defined as “Muslims who lived in the US for an extended period”) were linked to violent extremism at home or abroad in 2016. The total Muslim American population is 3.3 million.

Of those 46, only 24 were actually implicated in a concrete terrorist plot (the others did things like attempting to travel to Syria to join ISIS). Those plots claimed 54 lives, the vast majority of which (49) came in a single attack — the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

The study isn’t making an apples-to-apples comparison; the more directly relevant statistic would look at whether or not Muslim Americans kill more US citizens here than any other specific political or religious group (other research has looked at that question). But Kurzman’s work vividly underscores a simple fact: Muslim Americans, in both raw terms and as a percentage of size of their total community, commit very small numbers of killings.

By contrast, roughly 11,000 Americans were killed in gun homicides in 2016 — yet Trump has never said anything about creating a registry of gun owners.


http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/27/14412420/terrorism-Muslims-america-islam-trump


So based on Tommy's view, we should never allow Americans to enter the UK?
what has that got to do with islamic immigrants to canada slaughtering canadian Muslims.

those immigrants are after all canada's strength apparently according to their prime snowflake.


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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:33 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:

So why are you moaning about them protesting?

If you are against their views on vetting, does that mean they have no right to protest?

Seems the only wet fish here is you it seems, that backs banning people based on the systems we find in Iran and Saudi, but then you do also live in a authoritarian regime in Turkey. So its no surprise how far right you have becoome

where have I been moaning about them protesting, thats your fake news again.

I said it would be nice for them to be honest as to why they are protesting.

however despite your diversion and attempts to avoid the topic, this shooting was nothing to do with trump and all to do with immigrants arriving who are more than willing to commit violence against, in this case , other Muslims.
but I suppose you only see what you want to see.


They are protesting against a Bigot, sexist and racist. Seems very straight  forward to me

Where is the evidence it is immigrants?
All we know is that a number of Muslims has been killed and that is it.
Your evidence comes from a tweet saying it was Syrian refugees and the Mail with says a Moroccan immigrant
So based off and answering your other absurd points, based on your fear you have.
The US would have to close its borders to everyone in case there was more than the already 11,000 gun deaths each year. Which means closing the borders to business, tourism, migrants etc. In other words its an absurd view even if the killers were immigrants. What you are saying is that you are only going to try and prevent a minute amount of crime, by being prejudice towards one group of people.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:35 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:But that is just not true. A new study from Duke University sociologist Charles Kurzman, which tallies up the data on terrorist attacks committed by Muslim Americans, shows why.
The study found that only 46 Muslim Americans (defined as “Muslims who lived in the US for an extended period”) were linked to violent extremism at home or abroad in 2016. The total Muslim American population is 3.3 million.

Of those 46, only 24 were actually implicated in a concrete terrorist plot (the others did things like attempting to travel to Syria to join ISIS). Those plots claimed 54 lives, the vast majority of which (49) came in a single attack — the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

The study isn’t making an apples-to-apples comparison; the more directly relevant statistic would look at whether or not Muslim Americans kill more US citizens here than any other specific political or religious group (other research has looked at that question). But Kurzman’s work vividly underscores a simple fact: Muslim Americans, in both raw terms and as a percentage of size of their total community, commit very small numbers of killings.

By contrast, roughly 11,000 Americans were killed in gun homicides in 2016 — yet Trump has never said anything about creating a registry of gun owners.


http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/27/14412420/terrorism-Muslims-america-islam-trump


So based on Tommy's view, we should never allow Americans to enter the UK?
what has that got to do with islamic immigrants to canada slaughtering canadian Muslims.

those immigrants are after all canada's strength apparently according to their prime snowflake.



Everything, if the reason is to deny people based off some who enter and kill people.

Again where is the evidence they are immigrants?

Sky said they spoke in native accents?

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:36 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Thorin wrote:

So by your methodology, anyone who is a a risk to commit violence would render any person other than most children, void from entering any country, being as both women and men murder?
Correct?
islamic terrorist are not opposed to using children to explode in crowds.


So you now think innocent children should be denied based off the supposed proposition, that children have been used elsewhere as suicide bombers, even though its not happened in the US? 
Cuckoo

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:42 pm

So its only one person that seems to have done the shootings and killings

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/30/quebec-mosque-shooting-canada-deaths

No idea why Dean keeps falling for fake news, sorry unconfirmed news off twitter and the Mail in regards to the identity of the suspect?

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:30 pm

So now some media outlets are stating the suspect Alexandre Bissonnette.

Which ties in with what the witnesses said that the gunmen had a native accent, in other words, a Quebecois accent.



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-quebec-gunman-who-9722588



The other suspect is now a witness Mohamed el Khadir.

Of course this is not confirmed

So clearly Dean needs to check his sources on Twitter and stop being so incredible gullible to what is posted

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:07 pm

Thorin wrote:
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what has that got to do with islamic immigrants to canada slaughtering canadian Muslims.

those immigrants are after all canada's strength apparently according to their prime snowflake.



Everything, if the reason is to deny people based off some who enter and kill people.

Again where is the evidence they are immigrants?

Sky said they spoke in native accents?


Back to an 'it's only a few' argument again I see...



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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:16 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Everything, if the reason is to deny people based off some who enter and kill people.

Again where is the evidence they are immigrants?

Sky said they spoke in native accents?


Back to an 'it's only a few' argument again I see...



Who said anything about a few?

MY view is your seem to be concerned about some people who may be possible murderers, but not about others

Its very illogical and absurd

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Post by sassy on Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:39 pm

I really couldn't see total fucking ignorance like this thread and sit on my hands.

The lady is a Guardian columnist in the US.

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The Quebec shooter, who killed 6 in a mosque, is a white male student who made right wing & anti-woman remarks on FB


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L'homme qui a lui-même appelé la police avant de se rendre sur le pont de l'Île-d'Orléans, après la fusillade à la Grande mosquée, est Alexandre Bissonnette, 27 ans, de Cap-Rouge.

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(Québec) Seulement un des deux hommes arrêtés par la police de Québec, dimanche soir, en lien avec la fusillade à la grande mosquée de Sainte-Foy, est toujours considéré comme suspect. Il s'agit d'Alexandre Bissonnette, 27 ans, connu pour avoir déjà tenu des propos identitaires.

L'homme qui a lui-même appelé la police pour dénoncer son crime alors qu'il se dirigeait en automobile vers le pont de l'Île d'Orléans est Alexandre Bissonnette, un jeune homme qui a grandi à Cap-Rouge. D'ailleurs, les policiers ont visité dans la nuit de dimanche à lundi la résidence de ses parents, située rue du Tracel. Ils y sont retournés lundi matin.

Selon le bottin de l'Université Laval, Bissonnette était inscrit en sciences politiques. Il était auparavant en anthropologie. «Il était pratiquement dans tous mes cours. C'est un solitaire. Il n'a pas vraiment d'amis», raconte un collègue étudiant.

François Deschamps, membre du comité Bienvenue aux réfugiés, créé il y a un an lors de l'arrivée massive de Syriens au Canada, a reconnu la photo d'Alexandre Bissonnette publiée par Le Soleil. «J'ai fait le saut quand je l'ai vu», lance-t-il au bout du fil.

«On observe beaucoup ce que font et disent les gens d'extrême droite. Lui, il a tenu des propos identitaires sur notre page Facebook. Il agissait comme un troll. Il s'attaquait aussi aux droits des femmes», se souvient M. Deschamps.
Un seul suspect, confirme la SQ

Alexandre Bissonnette a un frère jumeau. Les Gagnon-Dufour se souviennent surtout du lien qui unit les deux frères. «Ils ont vraiment un comportement de jumeaux soudés. Oui, ils étaient introvertis. C'est comme s'ils se suffisaient», rapportent-ils.

Lundi matin, on ne disposait encore que de très peu d'informations sur le potentiel second suspect.

Or, la SQ a confirmé peu après midi lundi qu'il avait été rencontré mais n'était pas retenu comme suspect. Il est désormais considéré comme un témoin.
Une heure et demi de terreur

   19h55 Premiers appels au 911. Au moins un homme masqué et armé de fusils d'assaut tire dans la mosquée.
   20h06 Des policiers arrivés sur place appréhende un premier suspects. D'autres policiers à l'intérieur de la mosquée font le décompte des victimes. Certaines, qui succomberont de la suite de leur blessure, étaient toujours vivantes à l'arrivée de la police.
   20h12 Pris de remords, un second suspect contacte le 911 pour avouer son crime. Il est dans son véhicule en direction de l'île d'Orléans. Il menace de se suicider.
   20h16 Les policiers terminent de fouiller l'intérieur de la mosquée au cas où d'autres tireurs s'y trouveraient.
   20h16 Commence l'évacuation des fidèles présents. Chacun doit s'identifier et passer à la fouille avant de quitter les lieux sous escorte policière.
   21h00 Alexandre Bissonnette, 27 ans, est arrêté après être sorti de son véhicule qu'il avait stationné en bordure de la bretelle d'accès au pont de l'île d'Orléans
   21h15 Les blessées ont tous été évacués et transportés vers le CHUL et l'Enfant-Jésus. Le Groupe tactique d'intervention pénètre dans la mosquée pour une ultime vérification.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:40 pm

Thorin wrote:So now some media outlets are stating the suspect Alexandre Bissonnette.

Which ties in with what the witnesses said that the gunmen had a native accent, in other words, a Quebecois accent.



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-quebec-gunman-who-9722588



The other suspect is now a witness Mohamed el Khadir.

Of course this is not confirmed

So clearly Dean needs to check his sources on Twitter and stop being so incredible gullible to what is posted

Ignorance?

I already posted up who it was?

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So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong. And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:41 pm

sassy wrote:So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong.   And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.

There is no need for that.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:14 pm

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Everything, if the reason is to deny people based off some who enter and kill people.

Again where is the evidence they are immigrants?

Sky said they spoke in native accents?


Back to an 'it's only a few' argument again I see...




Here dodge...


How many home citizens are allowed to be killed by letting foreign terrorists into the country just for the benefit of other foreigners to be allowed to come in too...!!!???


I personally think that if the risk of attacks by foreign terrorists from a particular country is that high, then not letting any of them come in Is the only way to ensure the home citizens are protected.



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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:24 pm

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Tommy Monk wrote:


Back to an 'it's only a few' argument again I see...




Here dodge...


How many home citizens are allowed to be killed by letting foreign terrorists into the country just for the benefit of other foreigners to be allowed to come in too...!!!???


I personally think that if the risk of attacks by foreign terrorists from a particular country is that high, then not letting any of them come in Is the only way to ensure the home citizens are protected.



Who is dodge?

Who says anyone allows anyone to be killed

Again to carry out your reasoning would mean you would have to stop 35 million tourists coming to the UK, all the students and business people, let alone migrants and immigrants. To your reasoning of not allowing people in based on the risk, some will commit murder, rape etc.
That would then only partially protect the home citizens, as you still have people rape and murder who are home citizens. So your method would bankrupt the country, and all over something you have yet to quantify.
How many successful terrorist attacks by foreign immigrants have occurred in the last 10 years?

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Don't be a twat dodge...


Not allowing people entry to your country from high risk places is sensible to ensure the safety of your own citizens.

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Tommy Monk wrote:Don't be a twat dodge...


Not allowing people entry to your country from high risk places is sensible to ensure the safety of your own citizens.

Again who is dodge?

Which means all countries would be high risk.
Lets take France which has had home grown Islamic terrorism, which whilst you place restrictions on places you claim are high risk, using guilt by association. Does nothing to stop them coming from the EU. The way you stop terrorism with proper checks and intelligence. Closing the doors, of which you would have to do, based on your dumb methodology, would bankrupt the country.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:31 pm

sassy wrote:So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong.   And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.

Sassy is an anti British, pro Muslim terrorist appeaser.

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Tommy Monk wrote:
sassy wrote:So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong.   And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.

Sassy is an anti British, pro Muslim terrorist appeaser.

You are as bad as her, grow up.

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Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Don't be a twat dodge...


Not allowing people entry to your country from high risk places is sensible to ensure the safety of your own citizens.

Again who is dodge?

Which means all countries would be high risk.
Lets take France which has had home grown Islamic terrorism, which whilst you place restrictions on places you claim are high risk, using guilt by association. Does nothing to stop them coming from the EU. The way you stop terrorism with proper checks and intelligence. Closing the doors, of which you would have to do, based on your dumb methodology, would bankrupt the country.


If there is a clear and very real present high risk of certain people wanting to gain entry to your country and commit terrorist atrocities against your citizens... then you have a duty to protect your citizens and prevent them arriving in the first place... not a duty to foreigners.


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Thorin wrote:

Again who is dodge?

Which means all countries would be high risk.
Lets take France which has had home grown Islamic terrorism, which whilst you place restrictions on places you claim are high risk, using guilt by association. Does nothing to stop them coming from the EU. The way you stop terrorism with proper checks and intelligence. Closing the doors, of which you would have to do, based on your dumb methodology, would bankrupt the country.


If there is a clear and very real present high risk of certain people wanting to gain entry to your country and commit terrorist atrocities against your citizens... then you have a duty to protect your citizens and prevent them arriving in the first place... not a duty to foreigners.


There is on any type of crime and you are just regurgitating what you said before which i have already answered. Your plan is dumb and would bankrupt the country, as you would need to close the doors to the outside world and even then you would not eliminate the problem.

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Don't talk shite!


You seem to be living in a fantasy world where a country must allow entry to everyone from everywhere and to as many as who want to come at any time they want with absolutely no regard to the national security of the country or the danger that any of them may pose to the people...!?


If the people of a particular country pose an extremely high and significant risk to your country and/or citizens etc... then your duty must be to protect the country and citizens first and foremost!!!



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Don't talk shite!


You seem to be living in a fantasy world where a country must allow entry to everyone from everywhere and to as many as who want to come at any time they want with absolutely no regard to the national security of the country or the danger that any of them may pose to the people...!?


If the people of a particular country pose an extremely high and significant risk to your country and/or citizens etc... then your duty must be to protect the country and citizens first and foremost!!!



1) Misdirection

2) Misdirection again, repeating yourself and not answering my points

3) We do already protect the country and its citizens. Its why we have a huge defense bill.

4) You failed to address my points.

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No... you failed to make any points...

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Post by sassy on Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:58 pm

Tell you what Dean and Tommy, take your prejudices and your lies and your racism and choke on them.

So where is 'Je Suis Quebec'?

Dean, you are an ignorant fool and you fall for any bit of faux news that reinforces your prejudices, ditto Tommy.  



1) One of the #Quebec Mosque attackers, Alex B, liked #Trump,Marine Le Pen & the Israeli Defense Force on FB, making Jihadi ties unlikely






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Tommy Monk wrote:No... you failed to make any points...


Really, as seen you could not answer my points.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:09 pm

sassy wrote:Tell you what Dean and Tommy, take your prejudices and your lies and your racism and choke on them.

So where is 'Je Suis Quebec'?

Dean, you are an ignorant fool and you fall for any bit of faux news that reinforces your prejudices, ditto Tommy.  



1) One of the #Quebec Mosque attackers, Alex B, liked #Trump,Marine Le Pen & the Israeli Defense Force on FB, making Jihadi ties unlikely







Firstly sassy, you twisted treacherous troll, have I said anything on this thread about the identity of the attacker/s in op...!?


Secondly... is it not true that the media have been full of reports that there were 2 (or even 3) attackers... both entered the mosque wearing ski masks... and one of them being Moroccan...!!!???



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Its a fair point, Tommy, has not even approached the topic until his last post of the suspect/s

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:53 pm

sassy wrote:So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong.   And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.
you mean the quebec police are peddling fake news? was that the earlier report or the latest one.

you are a very aggressive person aren't you.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:57 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
sassy wrote:So I suggest Dean and Tommy fuck off back to the sewer where they belong.   And any Muslim associated with Dean should have the self respect to throw him to the wolves.
you mean the quebec police are peddling fake news? was that the earlier report or the latest one.

you are a very aggressive person aren't you.

Could be fake news, as its Fox news

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-quebec-gunman-who-9722588


But don't you look the wally for making this about immigrants?

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where have I been moaning about them protesting, thats your fake news again.

I said it would be nice for them to be honest as to why they are protesting.

however despite your diversion and attempts to avoid the topic, this shooting was nothing to do with trump and all to do with immigrants arriving who are more than willing to commit violence against, in this case , other Muslims.
but I suppose you only see what you want to see.


They are protesting against a Bigot, sexist and racist. Seems very straight  forward to me

Where is the evidence it is immigrants?
All we know is that a number of Muslims has been killed and that is it.
Your evidence comes from a tweet saying it was Syrian refugees and the Mail with says a Moroccan immigrant
So based off and answering your other absurd points, based on your fear you have.
The US would have to close its borders to everyone in case there was more than the already 11,000 gun deaths each year. Which means closing the borders to business, tourism, migrants etc. In other words its an absurd view even if the killers were immigrants. What you are saying is that you are only going to try and prevent a minute amount of crime, by being prejudice towards one group of people.
at the time it was reported by the quebec police as reported by many news outlets. Events have a habit of moving on. Are you suggesting that nothing should be commented on until the official enquiry has reported 20 years down the line. Make for a rather boring forum wouldn't it.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:58 pm

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They are protesting against a Bigot, sexist and racist. Seems very straight  forward to me

Where is the evidence it is immigrants?
All we know is that a number of Muslims has been killed and that is it.
Your evidence comes from a tweet saying it was Syrian refugees and the Mail with says a Moroccan immigrant
So based off and answering your other absurd points, based on your fear you have.
The US would have to close its borders to everyone in case there was more than the already 11,000 gun deaths each year. Which means closing the borders to business, tourism, migrants etc. In other words its an absurd view even if the killers were immigrants. What you are saying is that you are only going to try and prevent a minute amount of crime, by being prejudice towards one group of people.
at the time it was reported by the quebec police as reported by many news outlets. Events have a habit of moving on. Are you suggesting that nothing should be commented on until the official enquiry has reported 20 years down the line. Make for a rather boring forum wouldn't it.

I suggest you stop being gullible to twitter, of which was wrong and the daily mail, in the early stages of a terrorist attack, of which the stories are always conflicting.
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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:59 pm

Thorin wrote:So now some media outlets are stating the suspect Alexandre Bissonnette.

Which ties in with what the witnesses said that the gunmen had a native accent, in other words, a Quebecois accent.



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/first-picture-quebec-gunman-who-9722588



The other suspect is now a witness Mohamed el Khadir.

Of course this is not confirmed

So clearly Dean needs to check his sources on Twitter and stop being so incredible gullible to what is posted
it does seem that quebec has an islamaphobia problem, long before trump became president.

I will personally complain to the quebec police, I'll mention your name and I am sure they will do better next time.

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