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  • Independent data pulled from a combination of satellites, robotic floats, and ocean buoys has confirmed a 2015 study that disproved the "global warming hiatus."

  • This confirmation bolsters the already sound argument that climate change is not slowing down, emphasizing our need to find clean-energy alternatives to fossil fuels.


https://futurism.com/new-research-confirms-that-the-global-warming-hiatus-is-a-myth/

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:23 pm

No... you look up independent information on any of my claims and then tell me any one of them that is wrong...!?

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... you look up independent information on any of my claims and then tell me any one of them that is wrong...!?

Knock yourself out

This is a list of every skeptic argument encountered online as well as how often each argument is used. How this is calculated...
1Climate's changed before4.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepast
2It's the sun4.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesun
3It's not bad4.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueimpacts
4There is no consensus3.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueconsensus
5It's cooling3.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecooling
6Models are unreliable2.9%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemodel
7Temp record is unreliable2.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetemp
8Animals and plants can adapt2.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluespecies
9It hasn't warmed since 19982.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue1998
10Antarctica is gaining ice1.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueantarctica
11CO2 lags temperature1.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelag
12Ice age predicted in the 70s1.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue1970s
13Climate sensitivity is low1.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesensitivity
14We're heading into an ice age1.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueiceage
15Ocean acidification isn't serious1.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueacid
16Hockey stick is broken1.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehockey
17Climategate CRU emails suggest conspiracy1.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueclimategate
18Hurricanes aren't linked to global warming1.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehurricane
19Al Gore got it wrong1.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegore
20Glaciers are growing1.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueglacier
21It's cosmic rays1.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecosmic
221934 - hottest year on record1.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue1934
23It's freaking cold!1.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecold
24Extreme weather isn't caused by global warming1.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueextreme
25Sea level rise is exaggerated1.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesealevel
26It's Urban Heat Island effect1.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueuhi
27Medieval Warm Period was warmer1.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemwp
28Mars is warming1.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemars
29Arctic icemelt is a natural cycle1.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluearcticcycle
30Increasing CO2 has little to no effect1.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegreenhouse
31Oceans are cooling1.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueoceanheat
32It's a 1500 year cycle1.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue1500cycle
33Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions0.9%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueco2
34IPCC is alarmist0.9%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueunderestimat
35Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas0.9%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluevapor
36Polar bear numbers are increasing0.9%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluebear
37CO2 limits will harm the economy0.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueeconomy
38It's not happening0.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluewarming
39Greenland was green0.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegreen
40Greenland is gaining ice0.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegreenland
41CO2 is not a pollutant0.8%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepollutant
42CO2 is plant food0.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueplant
43There's no empirical evidence0.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueevidence
44Other planets are warming0.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueplanets
45It's clouds0.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue
46Arctic sea ice has recovered0.7%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluearctic
47There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecorrelate
48We're coming out of the Little Ice Age0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelia
49It cooled mid-century0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemidcentury
50Global warming stopped in 19981995200220072010, ????0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluestopped
51CO2 was higher in the past0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepastco2
52It warmed before 1940 when CO2 was low0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepre1940
53Satellites show no warming in the troposphere0.6%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetroposphere
54It's aerosols0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueaerosols
552009-2010 winter saw record cold spells0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluewinter
56It's El Niño0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueelnino
57Mt. Kilimanjaro's ice loss is due to land use0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluekilimanjaro
58It's not us0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueagw
59It's Pacific Decadal Oscillation0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepdo
60It's a natural cycle0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecycle
61There's no tropospheric hot spot0.5%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehotspot
62IPCC were wrong about Himalayan glaciers0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehimalaya
63Scientists can't even predict weather0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueweather
642nd law of thermodynamics contradicts greenhouse theory0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluethermo
65Greenhouse effect has been falsified0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluefalsify
66Clouds provide negative feedback0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecloud
67CO2 limits will hurt the poor0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepoor
68The science isn't settled0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesettled
69Sea level rise predictions are exaggerated0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueseapredict
70It's the ocean0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueocean
71IPCC were wrong about Amazon rainforests0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueamazon
72Corals are resilient to bleaching0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluebleach
73CO2 effect is saturated0.4%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesaturate
74Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluevolcano
75Greenland ice sheet won't collapse0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueicecollapse
76CO2 is just a trace gas0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetrace
77It's methane0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemethane
78500 scientists refute the consensus0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue500
79CO2 has a short residence time0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueresidence
80Humidity is falling0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehumidity
81CO2 measurements are suspect0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueco2data
82Neptune is warming0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueneptune
83Springs aren't advancing0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluespring
84Jupiter is warming0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluejupiter
85It's land use0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelanduse
86Scientists tried to 'hide the decline' in global temperature0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluedecline
87CO2 is not increasing0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueco2up
88Record snowfall disproves global warming0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesnowfall
89They changed the name from 'global warming' to 'climate change'0.3%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluename
90Solar Cycle Length proves its the sun0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluescl
91Peer review process was corrupted0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepeerreview
92CO2 is not the only driver of climate0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluedriver
93CO2 is coming from the ocean0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueoceanco2
94Pluto is warming0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepluto
95IPCC overestimate temperature rise0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueoverestimate
96Renewable energy is too expensive0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueexpensive
97Arctic was warmer in 19400.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluearctic1940
98Southern sea ice is increasing0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesouthice
99Sea level rise is decelerating0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesealevelrise
100CO2 limits will make little difference

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101Lindzen and Choi find low climate sensitivity0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelindzenchoi
102It's microsite influences0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemicrosite
103Phil Jones says no global warming since 19950.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue1995
104Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesignificant
105Infrared Iris will reduce global warming0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueiris
106It's too hard0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetoohard
107Dropped stations introduce warming bias0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluedropped
108It's not urgent0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueurgent
109Tree-rings diverge from temperature after 19600.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluediverge
110It's albedo0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluealbedo
111Roy Spencer finds negative feedback0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluenegspencer
112It's soot0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesoot
113Hansen's 1988 prediction was wrong0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehansen1988
114Earth hasn't warmed as much as expected0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueinertia
115It's global brightening0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluebright
116Arctic sea ice loss is matched by Antarctic sea ice gain0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueseaice
117It's a climate regime shift0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueshift
118Solar cycles cause global warming0.2%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesolarcycle
119Plant stomata show higher and more variable CO2 levels0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluestomata
120Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueschulte
121Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueoism
122Ice isn't melting0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueicemelt
123A drop in volcanic activity caused warming0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluevolcanodrop
124IPCC ‘disappeared’ the Medieval Warm Period0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueipccmwp
125Sea level is not rising0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesearise
126Climate is chaotic and cannot be predicted0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluechaos
127It's ozone0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueozone
128Climate 'Skeptics' are like Galileo0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegalileo
129The IPCC consensus is phoney0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluehulme
130Freedom of Information (FOI) requests were ignored0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluefoi
131Tuvalu sea level isn't rising0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetuvalu
132Naomi Oreskes' study on consensus was flawed0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueoreskes
133Trenberth can't account for the lack of warming0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetrenberth
134Renewables can't provide baseload power0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluebaseload
135Ice Sheet losses are overestimated0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueiceloss
136CRU tampered with temperature data0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetamper
137Breathing contributes to CO2 buildup0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluebreath
138Melting ice isn't warming the Arctic0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueamplify
139Satellite error inflated Great Lakes temperatures0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluegreatlake
140Soares finds lack of correlation between CO2 and temperature0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesoares
141Murry Salby finds CO2 rise is natural0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesalby
142We're heading into cooling0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluefuturecool
143The sun is getting hotter0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueacrim
144Most of the last 10,000 years were warmer0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue10000
145It warmed just as fast in 1860-1880 and 1910-19400.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetrends
146Record high snow cover was set in winter 2008/20090.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesnowcover
147Water vapor in the stratosphere stopped global warming0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluestratosphere
148An exponential increase in CO2 will result in a linear increase in temperature0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelinear
149CO2 emissions do not correlate with CO2 concentration0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueco2conc
150It's waste heat0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluewaste
151CERN CLOUD experiment proved cosmic rays are causing global warming0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueCERN
152Mauna Loa is a volcano0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemauna
153Deniers are part of the 97%0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluefringe
154Venus doesn't have a runaway greenhouse effect0.1%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluevenus
155Skeptics were kept out of the IPCC?0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueipccskeptic
156Positive feedback means runaway warming0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluerunaway
157It's planetary movements0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueplanetary
158Water levels correlate with sunspots0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluewatersun
159Antarctica is too cold to lose ice0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluetoocold
160CO2 was higher in the late Ordovician0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueordovician
16197% consensus on human-caused global warming has been disproven0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluerobust97
162Adapting to global warming is cheaper than preventing it0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueadaptcheap
163CO2 increase is natural, not human-caused0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueco2increase
164Coral atolls grow as sea levels rise0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueatoll
165It's internal variability0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluevariable
166Scientists retracted claim that sea levels are rising0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesearetract
167Schmittner finds low climate sensitivity0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueschmittner
168Warming causes CO2 rise0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluewarmco2
169Renewable energy investment kills jobs0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluejobs
170It's CFCs0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluecfc
171No warming in 16 years0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue16years
172It's a climate shift step function caused by natural cycles0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluestepfunction
173Greenland has only lost a tiny fraction of its ice mass0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueicefraction
174Ben Santer and the 1995 IPCC report0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesanter
175DMI show cooling Arctic0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluedmi
176CO2 limits won't cool the planet0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluelimitscool
177A grand solar minimum could trigger another ice age0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluesolarminimum
178Royal Society embraces skepticism0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueroyalsoc
1790.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue
180It's only a few degrees0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluefewdegrees
181It's satellite microwave transmissions0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluemicrowave
182Sea level fell in 20100.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueslr2010
183CO2 only causes 35% of global warming0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblue35percent
184Arctic sea ice extent was lower in the past0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepastarctic
185IPCC graph showing accelerating trends is misleading0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueaccelerate
186We didn't have global warming during the Industrial Revolution0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueindustrial
187Postma disproved the greenhouse effect0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkbluepostma
188UAH atmospheric temperatures prove climate models and/or surface temperature data sets are wrong0.0%New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 P_dkblueuah
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Tommy Monk wrote:No... you look up independent information on any of my claims and then tell me any one of them that is wrong...!?

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:31 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... you look up independent information on any of my claims and then tell me any one of them that is wrong...!?


I suggest you look at the links, as they easily refute your claim Tommy

Try reading them, I can see mutiple ones that destroy your claims

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Your spam wall of waffle means nothing...


If you are unable to debate the points themselves then it shows you don't really understand any of it or know anything about any of it...



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Tommy Monk wrote:

Your spam wall of waffle means nothing...


If you are unable to debate the points themselves then it shows you don't really understand any of it or know anything about any of it...




No that is scientific evidence

Like I said you simply do not understand it

Live in denial Tommy

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:54 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
eddie wrote:

No mate. They're really not.


I have provided the facts numerous times on multiple threads...


Temperatures have always changed over millions of years...


We have returned to normal temperatures from a cold period...


Co2 levels have varied wildly in the past and been higher during colder periods as well as lower during warmer periods...


Co2 levels have hardly changed at all over the last few millenia...


The heat we have here on earth is from the Sun... and the sun does not always give out the same amount of heat... also, the distance of earth from sun is not always the same either!!!




Try showing just one is wrong...!?

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:50 am

nicko wrote:I read somewhere,[ don't ask where] that although the ice In the Artic is retreating, the ice in the ant-artic is advancing.   just asking did any one else read it?

It could have been the other way round?


not quite
the vast thick plates of ice are melting and breaking up in the summer which they used to not do
the presence of more big icebergs is causing a larger layer of seasonal ice but it disappears every summer.
unlike the great ice sheets that had been frozen solid for 10,000's of years.

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Tommy you have proved nothing but how Stupid you are.
that is all
you are an idiot.

we cannot engage you in this discussion because you lack even basic scientific concepts and just post crap from blogs that if you spent a little bit of time researching you'd know are highly discredited (read 'are bullshit') already!!!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:07 pm

I'm posting stuff from nasa and the IPCC... and from other scientific and historical sites...


It's hard to have any intelligent discussion with people like yourself who lie about the data I post and the sources...

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:02 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I have provided the facts numerous times on multiple threads...


Temperatures have always changed over millions of years...


We have returned to normal temperatures from a cold period...


Co2 levels have varied wildly in the past and been higher during colder periods as well as lower during warmer periods...


Co2 levels have hardly changed at all over the last few millenia...


The heat we have here on earth is from the Sun... and the sun does not always give out the same amount of heat... also, the distance of earth from sun is not always the same either!!!




Try showing just one is wrong...!?

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:37 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy you have proved nothing but how Stupid you are.
that is all
you are an idiot.

we cannot engage you in this discussion because you lack even basic scientific concepts and just post crap from blogs that if you spent a little bit of time researching you'd know are highly discredited (read 'are bullshit') already!!!


cheers

Hear  !   Hear  !

Never a truer word spoken..

Tommy is so stupidly clueless, he doesn't even realise how stupid he comes across with each and every delusional post he makes on this subject...

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If I'm so clueless... why can't any of you show any of my statements above to be false...!?


Should be easy for you!!!???


lol!

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:51 pm

Thorin wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Can you not debate a subject without abusing other members of the forum?

Someone who disputes what's being said about global warming isn't necessarily uncaring, greedy, or lily-livered - they just disagree with you.


No they would be generally uncaring to not think about the future of this plant


Laughing

One thing I will say for Ragamuffin...

She nearly always succeeds in placing the 'principles' of corporate greed and shareholder returns well ahead of a healthier environment, the "common good", and humanity's future..

Showing where her true loyalties lie.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:08 pm

Idea

I WILL REFUTE Tommy's false claims easily :

Tommy has not given any genuine evidence --  all he has spouted is pure bullshit..

My personal observations, and real world experiences, trumps Tommy's suspect blog searches and desperate waffling any day..


As well as Thorin's/Didge's couple of hundred references above -- veya, Ben and I have given dozens of proved refutations several times over the past year.

Tommy claims reputable scientists and genuine evidence supports him --  but consistently fails to provide either in actual fact !

Even when he references actual data, he misrepresents and misunderstands what he's looking at..


Tommy claims that temp's "haven't risen since 1998" in one of his references ?  YET, last week we had a heatwave at the end of December with 3 og those  days over  40°C, and are at the start of one this week, with another on the way next week.

The hottest December in living memory, with weather patterns usually not seen before mid-Jan'/February..        sunny


With the amount of waffle, spamming and fairyfloss that Tommy is producing on here himself --  his Waffle Shop should be going great guns  !

P.S.  Oh,  and in passing,  I did pass my 'Climatology' class while studying Agriculture at uni' easily enough --  and I'm willing to put that little tidbit up against Tommy's self proclaimed "genius" any day..

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So... still not shown any one of these statements to be false...



Temperatures have always changed over millions of years...


We have returned to normal temperatures from a cold period...


Co2 levels have varied wildly in the past and been higher during colder periods as well as lower during warmer periods...


Co2 levels have hardly changed at all over the last few millenia...


The heat we have here on earth is from the Sun... and the sun does not always give out the same amount of heat... also, the distance of earth from sun is not always the same either!!!


lol!

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Oh... and...

"...According to a continuous study conducted by the NASA's Goddard institute, the Earth's average global temperature has risen by 0.8 degrees Celsius or 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880..."


Now... I wonder where that bit of scientific data came from...!?


lol!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Oh... and...

"...According to a continuous study conducted by the NASA's Goddard institute, the Earth's average global temperature has risen by 0.8 degrees Celsius or 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880..."


Now... I wonder where that bit of scientific data came from...!?


lol!

From a study published more than a decade ago: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

Might want to look at more recent data.

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Not much different...


"...Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change..."

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:00 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Thorin wrote:


No they would be generally uncaring to not think about the future of this plant


Laughing

One thing I will say for Ragamuffin...

She nearly always succeeds in placing the 'principles' of corporate greed and shareholder returns well ahead of a healthier environment, the "common good", and humanity's future..

Showing where her true loyalties lie.

Nonsense. I recycle as much as I can. You're just attacking me because I'm the only one who noticed your nasty post.

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:28 pm

@tommy
this is the NASA site
http://climate.nasa.gov/

the graph clearly shows constant upward movement since 1950's
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/

Ancient air bubbles trapped in ice enable us to step back in time and see what Earth's atmosphere, and climate, were like in the distant past. They tell us that levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years. During ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200 parts per million (ppm), and during the warmer interglacial periods, they hovered around 280 ppm (see fluctuations in the graph). In 2013, CO2 levels surpassed 400 ppm for the first time in recorded history. This recent relentless rise in CO2 shows a remarkably constant relationship with fossil-fuel burning, and can be well accounted for based on the simple premise that about 60 percent of fossil-fuel emissions stay in the air.


Where have you posted Nasa stuff? you mean you posted to an idiots blog that referenced very old of fake data and that Morons like yourself KEEP circulating online because you are too fucking dumb.

the majority of your points above are not even points there relevance is ZERO you just are so ignorant you don't understand any part of the process and what is relevant to even begin.

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My last couple posts are from 'nasa Goddard institute' and then the 'IPCC'!!!



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Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...



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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:56 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...



http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/

Can't remember if you trust NASA or not, you seem to go back and forth.

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Tommy Monk wrote:

Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...



not true of the total atmosphere and definitely not while the planet supports life (pre that maybe, but it is not relevant cause ALL LIFE WOULD BE GONE!!!)

in fact I don't think it would be possible post Devonian era (approx. 360 million years ago), when plant life flourished and started to lock it up in it's cells (And turn to fossil fuels) it was only 2200ppm then and most life form alive today could not survive in that atmosphere

in the Silurian Era (approx. 420 million years ago) it reached 4400ppm but the air was in no way breathable, as the first land plants were only just evolving
A significant evolutionary milestone during the Silurian was the diversification of jawed and bony fish. Multi-cellular life also began to appear on land in the form of small, bryophyte-like and vascular plants that grew beside lakes, streams, and coastlines,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silurian

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"...Present atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations are not unprecedented in geological history. Throughout the Phanerozoic spanning the past 600 million years, carbon dioxide concentrations have been sporadically falling from well above 6000ppm.."


http://deforestation.geologist-1011.net/

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I have yet again provided proof of what I said... other sources are available...



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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:49 am

Wolf is on point
Tommy you proved my point that you are too dumb

Most geologists and paleontologists would probably set the Proterozoic-Phanerozoic boundary either at the classic point where the first trilobites and reef-building animals (archaeocyatha) such as corals and others appear; at the first appearance of a complex feeding burrow called Treptichnus pedum; or at the first appearance of a group of small, generally disarticulated, armored forms termed 'the small shelly fauna'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanerozoic

those number are PRE LAND LIFE
100 million years before fish exist, 200 million years before the first plants break the surface of the water

it is complete unreasonableness to expect life on earth to exist if it where to return to those sort of numbers


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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:52 am

AND READ the fucking link you posted

Conclusion

Carbon emissions due to fossil fuel combustion represent less than 20% of the total human impact on atmospheric carbon levels. Deforestation not only contributes a relatively minor one off carbon emission of some 2.3 gigatons of carbon to the atmosphere, but an ongoing loss of photosynthetic carbon sequestration to around 38 gigatons per annum that is growing at the rate of 500 megatons every year. It is clear from the fact that this amount dwarfs the present 7.8 gigaton fossil fuel combustion contribution (IPCC, 2007), that the cessation of fossil fuel combustion will not halt the rise of atmospheric carbon dioxide because the loss of photosynthesising biota and the corresponding fall in photosynthesis is so much greater. The current focus on fossil fuel combustion to the exclusion of ongoing impacts of deforestation only serves to blind the public to the consequences of excessive land clearance and the fact that deforestation and consequent soil deflation are the simplest explanation for the unprecedented rise in global aridity during a warming phase.

Replanting of forests and reclamation of land for jungles, woodlands, and sustainable forestry industry must be given first priority if the human impact on atmospheric carbon dioxide accumulation is to be brought under control. More importantly, deforestation causes the expansion of arid regions and this fact is well demonstrated by the human history of Australian environment (White, 1994). If we are to protect our agriculture, we must moderate its extent and use well diversified woodlands for both soil conservation, symbiont harvesting (eg. truffles), and sustainable forestry.

it completely lays blame on HUMANS it just says more is due to deforestation than fossil fuels (possible and in fact Makes you position WORSE)

ALSO completely supports my statement that it SHOULD not be possible to reach those level with the existence of TREES

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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:06 am

Idea

I'VE TRIED BEFORE to point out that problems such as climate change are 'multi-causal' and 'multi-faceted', but that simple fact often gets lost in the ensuing kerfuffles and anti-global warming garbage...

Deforestation may well be the #1 problem, and fossil fuels only contributing around 20% -- but let's not forget a few other contributions from the human race.  Including :

Over population
Poor farming practices in many places
The growth of cities -- and increasing transport needs
Industrial pollution
Overfishing the oceans
Using those oceans as dumping grounds
Corporate attacks on recycling/reduction/reuse efforts --
And those corporate "owned" guvm'nts working against conservation and alternative energy schemes..
sunny

Mankind has long been its' own worse enemy...


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:08 am

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Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...






Is this above statement true or not!!!???


You fucking jokers!!!


lol!



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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:10 am

not true
it has not been that level for 600 million years which is more than a couple in fact it was so long ago that no life existed above the surface of the primordial water

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:13 am

I said millions of years... I didn't say a couple of million years... 600 million years is millions of years!!!


You fucking jokers!!!



I make a statement... you laugh at me and say it's wrong... then you admit it's true... while still trying to laugh at me and claim I'm wrong!!!



You complete cretins!!!


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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:16 am

Razz

WHAT IS WRONG with poor little ol' Tommy ???

Is he really so mentally deficient, that he just has to keep on repeating his tired old b/s over and over, no matter how many times he is proven to be so pathetically and stupidly wrong..

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:36 am

Tommy Monk wrote:I said millions of years... I didn't say a couple of million years... 600 million years is millions of years!!!


You fucking jokers!!!



I make a statement... you laugh at me and say it's wrong... then you admit it's true... while still trying to laugh at me and claim I'm wrong!!!



You complete cretins!!!


lol!

TOMMY you brain dead twat, Plants did not exists in the atmosphere to absorb carbon until about 420million years ago
AGAIN get an education!!!

Your Saying in a time period from 600 million year ago to today it was that level, which it was only in the early stages by 400 million years ago it had dropped to 4000 then by 380 million years ago after the emergence of above water plants it dropped to 2000, 600 million years ago NO LIFE COULD BREATH THAT ATMOSPHERE!!! get it through you fucking head back then there was NO LAND LIFE!!! if we return to that state there will be NO LAND LIFE that includes fucking humans
I pointed out things that someone that understands would use like periods that are relevant because the don't go from start of undersea multi-celluar life until today
I used more specific time period Like the emergence of carbon sequestering plants AKA the EXACT Fucking thing the article you posted points out is the MAJOR carbon Store on this planet!!!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:39 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:I said millions of years... I didn't say a couple of million years... 600 million years is millions of years!!!


You fucking jokers!!!



I make a statement... you laugh at me and say it's wrong... then you admit it's true... while still trying to laugh at me and claim I'm wrong!!!



You complete cretins!!!


lol!

TOMMY you brain dead twat, Plants did not exists in the atmosphere to absorb carbon until about 420million years ago

AGAIN get an education!!!

Your Saying in a time period from 600 million year ago to today it was that level, which it was only in the early stages by 400 million years ago it had dropped to 4000 then by 380 million years ago after the emergence of above water plants it dropped to 2000,  600 million years ago NO LIFE COULD BREATH THAT ATMOSPHERE!!! get it through you fucking head back then there was NO LAND LIFE!!! if we return to that state there will be NO LAND LIFE that includes fucking humans
I pointed out things that someone that understands would use like periods that are relevant because the don't go from start of undersea multi-celluar life until today
I used more specific time period Like the emergence of carbon sequestering plants AKA the EXACT Fucking thing the article you posted points out is the MAJOR carbon Store on this planet!!!



Listen you cretin... I never said otherwise!!!


All I said was a statement on past co2 levels!!!


Which is 100% true!!!


lol!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...






Is this above statement true or not!!!???


You fucking jokers!!!


lol!


veya_victaous wrote:not true
it has not been that level for 600 million years
which is more than a couple in fact it was so long ago that no life existed above the surface of the primordial water


So you say 'not true'... but then immediately contradict yourself and admit it is true with the next bit of your post!!!


Most amusing!!!


lol!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Co2 levels are still around 0.04%... same as they have been for hundreds, if not thousands of years!


While if we look over millions of years... co2 levels have ranged from a couple of hundred ppm to 6000-7000 ppm...



http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/

Can't remember if you trust NASA or not, you seem to go back and forth.

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What's your point?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:51 pm

If you'd click the link you'd see, but I can't do that for you. Nor can I make you look at the chart at the link, but it clearly refutes your claim that C02 levels have remained relatively constant:

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We have had warmer periods over the last few thousand years when there has been lower co2 levels... so...!?

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Every time I click on a global warming thread I feel as if I'm stuck on a loop within a time warp. Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:09 pm

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We have had warmer periods over the last few thousand years when there has been lower co2 levels... so...!?


So... why was it warmer in the past when co2 levels were lower...!?



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Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

We have had warmer periods over the last few thousand years when there has been lower co2 levels... so...!?


So... why was it warmer in the past when co2 levels were lower...!?




What has that got to do with where humans have caused global warming?

Its misdirection and has no relevance

You are ignoring the CO2 levels caused by humans

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What the science says...


Select a level...New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 Level1 BasicNew Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 Level2 Intermediate
Greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changes. This time around humans are the cause, mainly by our CO2 emissions.

Climate Myth...



Climate's changed before
Climate is always changing. We have had ice ages and warmer periods when alligators were found in Spitzbergen. Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer than the present despite CO2 levels being lower than they are now. More recently, we have had the medieval warm period and the little ice age. (Richard Lindzen)


Greenhouse gasses – mainly CO2, but also methane – were involved in most of the climate changes in Earth’s past. When they were reduced, the global climate became colder. When they were increased, the global climate became warmer. When CO2 levels jumped rapidly, the global warming that resulted was highly disruptive and sometimes caused mass extinctions. Humans today are emitting prodigious quantities of CO2, at a rate faster than even the most destructive climate changes in earth's past.

Abrupt vs slow change.

Life flourished in the Eocene, the Cretaceous and other times of high CO2 in the atmosphere because the greenhouse gasses were in balance with the carbon in the oceans and the weathering of rocks. Life, ocean chemistry, and atmospheric gasses had millions of years to adjust to those levels.
New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 608_EoceneDiorama
Lush life in the Arctic during the Eocene, 50 million years ago (original art - Stephen C. Quinn, The American Museum of Natural History, N.Y.C)

But there have been several times in Earth’s past when Earth's temperature jumped abruptly, in much the same way as they are doing today. Those times were caused by large and rapid greenhouse gas emissions, just like humans are causing today.

Those abrupt global warming events were almost always highly destructive for life, causing mass extinctions such as at the end of the Permian, Triassic, or even mid-Cambrian periods. The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change.
So yes, the climate has changed before humans, and in most cases scientists know why. In all cases we see the same association between CO2 levels and global temperatures. And past examples of rapid carbon emissions (just like today) were generally highly destructive to life on Earth.

https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm




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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:15 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

We have had warmer periods over the last few thousand years when there has been lower co2 levels... so...!?

What the fuck are you talking about? The last several years have been the hottest on record!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:41 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

We have had warmer periods over the last few thousand years when there has been lower co2 levels... so...!?

What the fuck are you talking about? The last several years have been the hottest on record!


Now who's flip flopping around...?


You are happy to quote historical estimations of co2 levels going back years/thousands of years/millions of years/hundreds of millions of years... but temperatures only count since 'records began' about 100-150 years ago...!?



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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:48 pm

Thorin wrote:

What the science says...





Select a level...New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 Level1 BasicNew Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 Level2 Intermediate
Greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changes. This time around humans are the cause, mainly by our CO2 emissions.

Climate Myth...





Climate's changed before
Climate is always changing. We have had ice ages and warmer periods when alligators were found in Spitzbergen. Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer than the present despite CO2 levels being lower than they are now. More recently, we have had the medieval warm period and the little ice age. (Richard Lindzen)


Greenhouse gasses – mainly CO2, but also methane – were involved in most of the climate changes in Earth’s past. When they were reduced, the global climate became colder. When they were increased, the global climate became warmer. When CO2 levels jumped rapidly, the global warming that resulted was highly disruptive and sometimes caused mass extinctions. Humans today are emitting prodigious quantities of CO2, at a rate faster than even the most destructive climate changes in earth's past.

Abrupt vs slow change.



Life flourished in the Eocene, the Cretaceous and other times of high CO2 in the atmosphere because the greenhouse gasses were in balance with the carbon in the oceans and the weathering of rocks. Life, ocean chemistry, and atmospheric gasses had millions of years to adjust to those levels.
New Research Confirms That The “Global Warming Hiatus” Is a Myth - Page 2 608_EoceneDiorama
Lush life in the Arctic during the Eocene, 50 million years ago (original art - Stephen C. Quinn, The American Museum of Natural History, N.Y.C)

But there have been several times in Earth’s past when Earth's temperature jumped abruptly, in much the same way as they are doing today. Those times were caused by large and rapid greenhouse gas emissions, just like humans are causing today.

Those abrupt global warming events were almost always highly destructive for life, causing mass extinctions such as at the end of the Permian, Triassic, or even mid-Cambrian periods. The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change.
So yes, the climate has changed before humans, and in most cases scientists know why. In all cases we see the same association between CO2 levels and global temperatures. And past examples of rapid carbon emissions (just like today) were generally highly destructive to life on Earth.

https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm




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