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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:32 pm

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I hope everyone fared better than me.
Went out Christmas eve for a lovely meal for two at nice restaurant.
Woke in the night ill....VERY ill.
I thought I had food poisoning I was so sick.....had to cancel Christmas day and OH had a sandwich for his Christmas dinner. Crying or Very sad Boxing day I always do a buffet for family.....had to cancel and son took the food back to his.
Whatever it was turned into a really bad virus, (cough, chest infection, cant eat or sleep) I still feel horrible.pale

But.....I have lost half a stone...every cloud. cheers

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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:36 pm

Syl wrote:
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after still pretty bad.


The worst few days, I felt so bad I thought I was dying!


Still not 100% now...


Is a really nasty illness... whatever it is... wouldn't wish it on anyone!

It's always comforting to know someone has felt as rotten... Laughing  I too felt like I was dying, and didn't much care at the time...I do feel a bit better today though.

Seriously, I'm glad you are over the worst of it Tommy.

Its horrible isn't it? I ended up with Pneumonia and sepsis in hospital in November. That is the worst I have ever felt in years
Glad you are feeling better too Tommy
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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:40 pm

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It's always comforting to know someone has felt as rotten... Laughing  I too felt like I was dying, and didn't much care at the time...I do feel a bit better today though.

Seriously, I'm glad you are over the worst of it Tommy.

Its horrible isn't it? I ended up with Pneumonia and sepsis in hospital in  November. That is the worst I have ever felt in years
Glad you are feeling better too Tommy

Blimey Miffs....I feel bad for moaning now.
I hope you are fully recovered, Pneumonia and sepsis sounds absolutely horrendous.

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:48 pm

Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now. Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas. I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:50 pm

4EVER2 wrote:  KARMA ~~~   

How nasty Evil or Very Mad Now it will rebound on you

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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:52 pm

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Its horrible isn't it? I ended up with Pneumonia and sepsis in hospital in  November. That is the worst I have ever felt in years
Glad you are feeling better too Tommy

Blimey Miffs....I feel bad for moaning now.
I hope you are fully recovered, Pneumonia and sepsis sounds absolutely horrendous.

Im getting there. Still not completely better. Was a bit scary to be honest Shocked
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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:53 pm

magica wrote:Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now.  Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas.  I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

Thanks Magica
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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:54 pm


I was eating asprin and paracetamol with codeine for 3 days just to take the edge off the worst of it...


Then had to go to work last mon-thursday while still suffering with it... and I'm working in a building with no heating, no windows, and no walls!!!

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:55 pm

magica wrote:Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now.  Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas.  I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

Thanks Mags. I love you

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
I was eating asprin and paracetamol with codeine for 3 days just to take the edge off the worst of it...


Then had to go to work last mon-thursday while still suffering with it... and I'm working in a building with no heating, no windows, and no walls!!!

That's rotten Tommy, sending healing to you too

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:58 pm

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Blimey Miffs....I feel bad for moaning now.
I hope you are fully recovered, Pneumonia and sepsis sounds absolutely horrendous.

Im getting there. Still not completely better. Was a bit scary to be honest Shocked

It's like a nightmare, ending up in hospital because a virus or infection takes a hold and develops into something really serious.
Look after yourself. x

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Re: What a rubbish Christmas.

Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:11 pm

magica wrote:
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I was eating asprin and paracetamol with codeine for 3 days just to take the edge off the worst of it...


Then had to go to work last mon-thursday while still suffering with it... and I'm working in a building with no heating, no windows, and no walls!!!

That's rotten Tommy, sending healing to you too


Thanks mags...

Hope thd rest of you shake off the lergee soon!

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Post by nicko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:21 pm

Starting Christmas Eve morning I had an attack of vertigo that didn't ease off until the day after boxing Day. I sat there with all the grandkids and I don't know how I got through those days, I just wanted to go to bed and lie down, And bugger me it came back this morning, so if i'v been ratty today I apologise.
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Post by eddie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:25 pm

I fell down on my arse a few days ago...slipped down the last few stairs.
Still hurts.

Wishing better health for all next year and healed arses.

And unblocked ears.

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Post by sassy on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:41 pm

Well, sorry you were all feeling so ill, but OH and I had a lovely time.   Being different to anything we had done before meant I wasn't comparing it and we both got to relax and enjoy ourselves.   They had The Jersey Boys show on and it was fantastic.


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Post by nicko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:58 pm

I Aways wanted to see the Jersey Boys, they appear quite often at the NEC witch is close to me, £25 a person including food.

Is it worth it Sass?
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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:09 pm

nicko wrote:Starting Christmas Eve morning I had an attack of vertigo that didn't ease off until the day after boxing Day.   I sat there with all the grandkids and I don't know how I got through those days, I just wanted to go to bed and lie down,    And bugger me it came back this morning, so if i'v been ratty today I apologise.

That's sounds horrible...what causes it Nicko?
And you are never ratty without cause, and even if you are...so what? Cool

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:10 pm

sassy wrote:Well, sorry you were all feeling so ill, but OH and I had a lovely time.   Being different to anything we had done before meant I wasn't comparing it and we both got to relax and enjoy ourselves.   They had The Jersey Boys show on and it was fantastic.


It cheers me up that not everyone was feeling bad, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself Sassy....I believe they are a fab live act.

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Post by sassy on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:15 pm

nicko wrote:I Aways wanted to see the Jersey Boys,    they appear quite often at the NEC witch is close to me,  £25 a person including food.

Is it worth it Sass?


I'd say it was.  I thoroughly enjoyed every minute.

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Post by sassy on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:16 pm

Syl wrote:
sassy wrote:Well, sorry you were all feeling so ill, but OH and I had a lovely time.   Being different to anything we had done before meant I wasn't comparing it and we both got to relax and enjoy ourselves.   They had The Jersey Boys show on and it was fantastic.


It cheers me up that not everyone was feeling bad, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself Sassy....I believe they are a fab live act.


Thanks Syl, sorry yours was so bad, they are fantastic live.

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:25 pm

sassy wrote:
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It cheers me up that not everyone was feeling bad, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself Sassy....I believe they are a fab live act.


Thanks Syl, sorry yours was so bad, they are fantastic live.

Next time they are on round here I will book to see them.
I love live acts, theatre etc....don't go enough.

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:36 pm

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I was told she had been taken to throw to fighting dogs to help train them to kill.    I would have rather have not known that,  I spent a few miserable weeks thinking of it.

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While stolen for "blooding" or "coursing" is always a possibility, it's not very likely...
Some people always like to imagine the worst case scenarios, you notice..

Much more likely is that either she's wandered off and found herself another home (I have seen that happen, personally, a couple of times..) or else somebody has taken her as either a pet, or to give to someone else..

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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:36 pm

Syl wrote:
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Im getting there. Still not completely better. Was a bit scary to be honest Shocked

It's like a nightmare, ending up in hospital because a virus or infection takes a hold and develops into something really serious.
Look after yourself. x

I will thanks Syl x
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nicko wrote:Starting Christmas Eve morning I had an attack of vertigo that didn't ease off until the day after boxing Day.   I sat there with all the grandkids and I don't know how I got through those days, I just wanted to go to bed and lie down,    And bugger me it came back this morning, so if i'v been ratty today I apologise.

Poor thing that's awful
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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:40 pm

Syl wrote:
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Thanks Syl, sorry yours was so bad, they are fantastic live.

Next time they are on round here I will book to see them.
I love live acts, theatre etc....don't go enough.

I don't either, haven't been to Manchester since I saw Neil Diamond at the MEN
That was a good night. cheers
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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:41 pm

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magica wrote:Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now.  Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas.  I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

I hope all you girlz are feeling better now.

I was ruff before Christmas, think I mentioned it, just shook it off in time, mine was only a medium dose I think, some I know had it really ruff.
This was my first bout of anything for a few years.

My mates wife is a lazy cow according to him, he says she feigned  dose of 'flu' so she called it so he had to do all the work over Christmas, now he has it very bad, she has gone away with her sister for 3 days and left him on his own, their kids visit so they might be next..


Oh dear he is not having a good time is he
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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:42 pm

santa

With regards to this topic,  itself  :

Nothing went wrong over my Christmas here...

So, on the basis 'that no news is good news',  I can say that I had nice and pleasant time..

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Post by Miffs2 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:43 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:santa

With regards to this topic,  itself  :

Nothing went wrong over my Christmas here...

So, on the basis,that no news is good news,  I can say that I had nice and pleasant time..

I'm very pleased you had a good time
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Post by eddie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:44 pm

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I was told she had been taken to throw to fighting dogs to help train them to kill.    I would have rather have not known that,  I spent a few miserable weeks thinking of it.

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While stolen for "blooding" or "coursing" is always a possibility, it's not very likely...
Some people always like to imagine the worst case scenarios, you notice..

Much more likely is that either she's wandered off and found herself another home (I have seen that happen, personally, a couple of times..) or else somebody has taken her as either a pet, or to give to someone else..

I think wolf is right nicko. Much more likely she's found a lovely new home and is fast asleep as we speak x

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:48 pm

sassy wrote:
nicko wrote:I Aways wanted to see the Jersey Boys,    they appear quite often at the NEC witch is close to me,  £25 a person including food.

Is it worth it Sass?


I'd say it was.  I thoroughly enjoyed every minute.

Ive seen the show, its brilliant, well worth going to. Sassy were you tapping your feet, I was lol. Couldn't help myself.

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Post by magica on Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:50 pm

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magica wrote:Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now.  Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas.  I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

I hope all you girlz are feeling better now.

I was ruff before Christmas, think I mentioned it, just shook it off in time, mine was only a medium dose I think, some I know had it really ruff.
This was my first bout of anything for a few years.

My mates wife is a lazy cow according to him, he says she feigned  dose of 'flu' so she called it so he had to do all the work over Christmas, now he has it very bad, she has gone away with her sister for 3 days and left him on his own, their kids visit so they might be next..


Im much better now thanx Major, hope you are too. Its always Christmas time when peeps fall ill and that makes for a miserable time. I do hope everyone feels better soon, already sent a double dose of healing

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:40 pm

Major wrote:
magica wrote:Aww Syl and everyone I do hope you are all feeling better now.  Its rotten to be so rough over Christmas.  I wasn't well either, but nothing like you all. Healing thoughts to you all x

I hope all you girlz are feeling better now.

I was ruff before Christmas, think I mentioned it, just shook it off in time, mine was only a medium dose I think, some I know had it really ruff.
This was my first bout of anything for a few years.

My mates wife is a lazy cow according to him, he says she feigned  dose of 'flu' so she called it so he had to do all the work over Christmas, now he has it very bad, she has gone away with her sister for 3 days and left him on his own, their kids visit so they might be next..


Thanks Major, I'm glad yours came and went and didn't ruin Christmas for you. x

Your mates wife doesn't sound very caring, it's not nice to leave your partner alone when they are poorly. No

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Post by Syl on Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:42 pm

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Next time they are on round here I will book to see them.
I love live acts, theatre etc....don't go enough.

I don't either, haven't been to Manchester since I saw Neil Diamond at the MEN
That was a good night. cheers

I bet it was...my OH loves him, and he can still sing.
We went to see 'Sweet Charity' at the Royal Exchange a couple of days before I got ill...it was brilliant.

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I don't either, haven't been to Manchester since I saw Neil Diamond at the MEN
That was a good night. cheers

I bet it was...my OH loves him, and he can still sing.
We went to see 'Sweet Charity' at the Royal Exchange  a couple of days before I got ill...it was brilliant.
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Post by eddie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:29 pm

He used to be able to sing and now his songs are just awful!

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Post by nicko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:40 pm

Did any one see Elain Page a couple of nights ago, awful, out of tune.
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Post by eddie on Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:07 pm

nicko wrote:Did any one see Elain Page a couple of nights ago,  awful, out of tune.

I used to think she was great. Haven't seen her sing live recently, I'm surprised she was out of tune, she is pitch perfect normally.

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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:23 am

This virus that's been going round is horrible, my Mum got taken to hospital with it a few weeks before Xmas, was on an antibiotic drip for nearly a week and she has the flu jab. Shes 80 next year but is fit and active, but that knocked her about.

The day after I sat in A and E all night with her, I came down with it too. I've worked through mine, little trouper that I am Smile but still now left with a bad throat and a nasty cough

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Post by eddie on Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:26 am

Sorry to hear that harves xx
Hope your mum is better now?

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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:33 am

eddie wrote:Sorry to hear that harves xx
Hope your mum is better now?

She's OK now Edds, it has scared her though. You know I get her to do a day a week in my shop, she hasn't been back since and she loves it there. I told her, you can't hang round this hospital being ill, get yourself to work, take your drip with you Basketball
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Post by Syl on Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:57 am

harvesmom wrote:This virus that's been going round is horrible, my Mum got taken to hospital with it a few weeks before Xmas, was on an antibiotic drip for nearly a week and she has the flu jab. Shes 80 next year but is fit and active, but that knocked her about.

The day after I sat in A and E all night with her, I came down with it too. I've worked through mine, little trouper that I am  Smile  but still now left with a bad throat and a nasty cough


I'm sorry to hear your mum then you caught the virus...it really is nasty, and obviously not covered by the flu jab....you are made of strong stuff managing to work through it....I have done absolutely nothing since Sunday.

Wishing you both a full and speedy recovery.

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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:07 am

Syl wrote:
harvesmom wrote:This virus that's been going round is horrible, my Mum got taken to hospital with it a few weeks before Xmas, was on an antibiotic drip for nearly a week and she has the flu jab. Shes 80 next year but is fit and active, but that knocked her about.

The day after I sat in A and E all night with her, I came down with it too. I've worked through mine, little trouper that I am  Smile  but still now left with a bad throat and a nasty cough


I'm sorry to hear your mum then you caught the virus...it really is nasty, and obviously not covered by the flu jab....you are made of strong stuff managing to work through it....I have done absolutely nothing since Sunday.

Wishing you both a full and speedy recovery.

Thanks Syl x Being self employed, I didnt have a choice tbh but to work through till Xmas. After New Years Eve when I have stupidly said I will have a party at mine, I shall take to my bed and recover properly for a few days Smile Hope you are feeling better now.

Did you feel dizzy and lightheaded with yours by the way?
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harvesmom wrote:This virus that's been going round is horrible, my Mum got taken to hospital with it a few weeks before Xmas, was on an antibiotic drip for nearly a week and she has the flu jab. Shes 80 next year but is fit and active, but that knocked her about.

The day after I sat in A and E all night with her, I came down with it too. I've worked through mine, little trouper that I am  Smile  but still now left with a bad throat and a nasty cough



There is most certainly a very nasty dose of virus/flu doing the rounds... I know all to well cos I've had it for last 2-3 weeks and still trying to shake off the last of it now!

Not had anything like it for years and years...

I reckon the 'flu jab' is causing more problems than its preventing... it's just helping create a nastier form of the virus and to spread about...

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Post by eddie on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:18 am

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eddie wrote:Sorry to hear that harves xx
Hope your mum is better now?

She's OK now Edds, it has scared her though. You know I get her to do a day a week in my shop, she hasn't been back since and she loves it there. I told her, you can't hang round this hospital being ill, get yourself to work, take your drip with you Basketball

Poor woman! Shocked

I hope she's gets back there soon harves. It's important to get moving ASAP

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Post by Syl on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:20 am

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Syl wrote:

I'm sorry to hear your mum then you caught the virus...it really is nasty, and obviously not covered by the flu jab....you are made of strong stuff managing to work through it....I have done absolutely nothing since Sunday.

Wishing you both a full and speedy recovery.

Thanks Syl x Being self employed, I didnt have a choice tbh but to work through till Xmas. After New Years Eve when I have stupidly said I will have a party at mine, I shall take to my bed and recover properly for a few days Smile  Hope you are feeling better now.

Did you feel dizzy and lightheaded with yours by the way?

Well hopefully you will feel fully fit by new years eve....fingers crossed we all will.
Thanks harvesmom, I feel better than I did, and yes....dizzy and lightheaded plus feeling sickly all the time seems to be part of it all.
Loss of appetite is another thing...I just can't eat. Today I forced down one round of toast....then tonight a small bowl of soup, which gave me stomach ache 10 minutes later.
If older people get this virus, I can well understand how quickly they would need hospital treatment, like your mum did.

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And... in my opinion... you are not 'brave' or a 'hero' for carrying on going to work while infected with a nasty virus... you are just adding to the problem by spreading it around to others... some of whom will get really ill, really suffer, and even die as a result!!!



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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:23 am

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harvesmom wrote:This virus that's been going round is horrible, my Mum got taken to hospital with it a few weeks before Xmas, was on an antibiotic drip for nearly a week and she has the flu jab. Shes 80 next year but is fit and active, but that knocked her about.

The day after I sat in A and E all night with her, I came down with it too. I've worked through mine, little trouper that I am  Smile  but still now left with a bad throat and a nasty cough



There is most certainly a very nasty dose of virus/flu doing the rounds... I know all to well cos I've had it for last 2-3 weeks and still trying to shake off the last of it now!

Not had anything like it for years and years...


I reckon the 'flu jab' is causing more problems than its preventing... it's just helping create a nastier form of the virus and to spread about...

I don't get the flu jab Tommy, but my Mum does and she got it far worse than I did. Could be her age of course.

But I remember last year she got the flu too, after the jab, and they said the flu jab covered 4 strains of flu, but not the one that she had???

Only thing is, the Doctor at the hospital did say that if she hadn't had the injection the chest infection she got would probably have turned into pneumonia, which obviously at her age would have been a real problem. But who knows, she is ill for a couple of weeks after she has the injection with mild flu symptoms, you dont really know what they are pumping into you do you.
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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:30 am

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And... in my opinion... you are not 'brave' or a 'hero' for carrying on going to work while infected with a nasty virus... you are just adding to the problem by spreading it around to others... some of whom will get really ill, really suffer, and even die as a result!!!



Yesssss... in an ideal world we would all stop work and isolate ourselves when we have a virus. Fact is, its not practical is it. Even if I dont go, I could infect someone close and they could pass it on as a carrier. If we all stopped going out when we felt ill then the country would grind to a halt! We dont live in a perfect world, all I can do is carry on and carry lots of anti bacterial hand cleanser with me Sad
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Post by harvesmom on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:34 am

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harvesmom wrote:

Thanks Syl x Being self employed, I didnt have a choice tbh but to work through till Xmas. After New Years Eve when I have stupidly said I will have a party at mine, I shall take to my bed and recover properly for a few days Smile  Hope you are feeling better now.

Did you feel dizzy and lightheaded with yours by the way?

Well hopefully you will feel fully fit by new years eve....fingers crossed we all will.
Thanks harvesmom, I feel better than I did, and yes....dizzy and lightheaded plus feeling sickly all the time seems to be part of it all.
Loss of appetite is another thing...I just can't eat. Today I forced down one round of toast....then tonight a small bowl of soup, which gave me stomach ache 10 minutes later.
If older people get this virus, I can well understand how quickly they would need hospital treatment, like your mum did.

I havent lost my appetite, I'm hungry but when I eat I feel a bit nauseous and light headed.

Anyways, it will be gone for 2017, as you say we've had a rubbish Christmas but at least we can see the New Year in in style cheers
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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:37 am

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Tommy Monk wrote:


There is most certainly a very nasty dose of virus/flu doing the rounds... I know all to well cos I've had it for last 2-3 weeks and still trying to shake off the last of it now!

Not had anything like it for years and years...


I reckon the 'flu jab' is causing more problems than its preventing... it's just helping create a nastier form of the virus and to spread about...

I don't get the flu jab Tommy, but my Mum does and she got it far worse than I did. Could be her age of course.

But I remember last year she got the flu too, after the jab, and they said the flu jab covered 4 strains of flu, but not the one that she had???

Only thing is, the Doctor at the hospital did say that if she hadn't had the injection the chest infection she got would probably have turned into pneumonia, which obviously at her age would have been a real problem. But who knows, she is ill for a couple of weeks after she has the injection with mild flu symptoms, you dont really know what they are pumping into you do you.


They are pumping a small dose of the virus into you...!


And if you say 4 different strains of virus are being delivered protection from... then that simply means that 4 different strains of virus and being injected into you!!!


All of which will trigger an immune response from your body... all of which are putting unnecessary undue strain on the body... and may adversely weaken the immune system in such a way as to be more susceptible to a wider virus that is circulating and then to become not just a host/carrier of it but a potential cause in virus mutating to something more nasty than the flu jab strains already part exposed to...

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