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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:13 pm

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Neither will I Major, or from any shop. Laughing

Or some medicines, cough syrup for example.

I don't get that one Major.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:23 pm

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I don't get that one Major.

There is ALCOHOL in many many medicines which are sold off the shelf, Miss Ragga

Oh I see!

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:50 pm

It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:53 pm

Major wrote:
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We know that you're a racist and your M.O to sort through anti Muslim propaganda and post this racist shit on here, its what you and your fellow far right activists do, we had a thread about it but it was locked as you were trying to implicate yourself in a vicious attack on a female Muslim from behind.

Americans are incredibly liberal with their strong freedom of speech principles, that's why their nation is at war with itself, because folk like yourself enjoy ramping up the hate speech until acts of violence are committed and people get hurt.

British people are not that stupid, when we witness your motives, we simply point them out!

If this great nation were at war you would be interned for treachery,,,,,and rightly so!


NOT A WORD about the topic content from Scrat.

Just another UNPROVOKED PERSONAL ATTACK.

Given your signature...

RACISM MEANS PATRIOTISM WHICH MEANS YOU LOVE AND PROTECT YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

RECLAIM OUR GREAT BRITAIN ISLAND


...not to mention your historical public support for far-right politics, why is it a personal attack to call you a racist? scratch


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Post by eddie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:54 pm

Ziz wrote:It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.

It's reasonable to question anything you want to Ziz but far more interesting to discuss or challlenge, the topic itself.
Only my opinion of course.

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:55 pm

eddie wrote:
Ziz wrote:It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.

It's reasonable to question anything you want to Ziz but far more interesting to discuss or challlenge, the topic itself.
Only my opinion of course.

The topic is ultimately about racism, is it not? And in my view posted in order to engender race hatred.

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:58 pm

Major wrote:
Ziz wrote:It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.


NOT A WORD about the topic from you, either.

Parachuting is not allowed but you will be OK, protected species.


Sadly wrong, Major - you should've read the thread before bandying about accusations. No


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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:58 pm

no?

the topic is ultimately about the pandering to one group over something that is lawful and within the rights and mores of our culture...

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:00 pm

Lord Foul wrote:no?

the topic is ultimately about the pandering to one group over something that is lawful and within the rights and mores of our culture...

But - in your view at least - pandering to another race/culture/faith.

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Post by Lord Foul on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:02 pm

Ziz wrote:
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Ziz wrote:It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.

It's reasonable to question anything you want to Ziz but far more interesting to discuss or challlenge, the topic itself.
Only my opinion of course.

The topic is ultimately about racism, is it not? And in my view posted in order to engender race hatred.

no?

the topic is ultimately about the pandering to one group over something that is lawful and within the rights and mores of our culture...

so we should just supress any knowlege of this pandering and favouritism towards one particular group

perhaps you think the various authorities were right in supressing by every means available the knowlege of the grooming gangs????

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by eddie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:02 pm

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Ziz wrote:It is surely reasonable to query someone's motive in starting a thread - particularly if that someone is publicly committed to a cause, racism for example.

It's reasonable to question anything you want to Ziz but far more interesting to discuss or challlenge, the topic itself.
Only my opinion of course.

The topic is ultimately about racism, is it not? And in my view posted in order to engender race hatred.

Well o agree with Ben. There wasn't nothing racist about the OP - perhaps we should challenge the authors and the newspapers instead of the messengers?

It's an idea anyway

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Lord Foul on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:05 pm

Ziz wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:no?

the topic is ultimately about the pandering to one group over something that is lawful and within the rights and mores of our culture...

But - in your view at least - pandering to another race/culture/faith.

more faces than the town hall clock you have ziz.....

you have already stated to the effect that you dont agree with the favouring of ANY religious group...neither do I...and my posts support that

you on the other hand say one thing at one time and another entirely at another time....

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:07 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
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But - in your view at least - pandering to another race/culture/faith.

more faces than the town hall clock you have ziz.....

you have already stated to the effect that you dont agree with the favouring of ANY religious group...neither do I...and my posts support that

you on the other hand say one thing at one time and another entirely at another time....

I am entirely consistent - I do not support concessions to any religious group - but what I said above about her contract of employment remains correct. Try to be non-partisan and you too can be objective. Smile

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:12 pm

Major wrote:Supermarkets have free fones for a taxi which in Coventry will more than likely arrive with a Muslim driver who will put your bags into the boot which may contain alcohol, put packs of beer into his boot, take the fare from your hand which has handled said alcohol, plus any tip from the same hand.

Good for them.

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Angry Andy on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:58 pm

It didnt take long for our parolee to post a thread with racist undertones, with links to a right wing racist Murdoch controlled rag.
Was it posted with the full intention of exploding into another rw racist anti Muslim row?
Given his history, it is fair to think that was a possible intention by Major.
Out of the zillions of topics he could have chosen to make his return with, he HAD to go with one about bad Muslims.
When in fact, with some digging and research, shows the Muslim shop worker to be entirely innocent.
Can we expect the next thread by him to be about migrating swans or the increase in earthquakes around the Pacific rim, or will it again make reference to followers of Islam or people of colour?

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Lord Foul on Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:13 pm

scrat wrote:
eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

There was absolutely nothing out-of-bounds about his post.


Okay scrat??? And ben isn't RW either.

Now I'd like to see if you will attack BEN in exactly the same way you'd have attacked me or anyone else that had posted this.

You are a far right extremist who supports racism, you try and hide it, but occasionally you let the cat out of the bag, I think the clue was always in the fact that you only ever support monkey boys minions, you've allowed them to corrupt this forum with their hate speech, you've always been sneaky, incredibly nasty, and wrapped up in your own self importance, some can't see it, I can.

Ben, much like many Americans is naive to the threat of racism, they spend much of their lives oblivious to the reality, living in a tiny feel good bubble, and they'll support racism up until the blade is inserted, that's why we fought alone for so long against Hitler and why Trump is president elect, minorities riot and people get shot.

You allow racists to ply their trade because basically you both don't have the courage to confront them.

SO...you think Ben is naive?? I'm sure he will be gratified by that observation....considering his many posts on the subject....


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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Angry Andy on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:11 pm

The story was a sham non story.
Invariably the same from rw rags like the Scum and the Mail.
I question your motive for posting such a story, which is a valid and legitimate question.
Your posting such a story shows that , indeed, things havent changed.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:35 pm

Why is this constant disruption being allowed? Every thread is spoilt by it. There are mods on this thread - why don't you just tell them to talk about the topic rather than another poster?

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Post by eddie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:36 pm

scrat wrote:
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Ben Reilly wrote:

There was absolutely nothing out-of-bounds about his post.


Okay scrat??? And ben isn't RW either.

Now I'd like to see if you will attack BEN in exactly the same way you'd have attacked me or anyone else that had posted this.

You are a far right extremist who supports racism, you try and hide it, but occasionally you let the cat out of the bag, I think the clue was always in the fact that you only ever support monkey boys minions, you've allowed them to corrupt this forum with their hate speech, you've always been sneaky, incredibly nasty, and wrapped up in your own self importance, some can't see it, I can.

Ben, much like many Americans is naive to the threat of racism, they spend much of their lives oblivious to the reality, living in a tiny feel good bubble, and they'll support racism up until the blade is inserted, that's why we fought alone for so long against Hitler and why Trump is president elect, minorities riot and people get shot.

You allow racists to ply their trade because basically you both don't have the courage to confront them.

You're all the same.
You'll only attack certain people won't you?


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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:39 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Why is this constant disruption being allowed? Every thread is spoilt by it. There are mods on this thread - why don't you just tell them to talk about the topic rather than another poster?

Is it not valid to address a poster's self-declared racism on a thread concerning race started by them for racist purposes?


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Post by eddie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:39 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
scrat wrote:
eddie wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

There was absolutely nothing out-of-bounds about his post.


Okay scrat??? And ben isn't RW either.

Now I'd like to see if you will attack BEN in exactly the same way you'd have attacked me or anyone else that had posted this.

You are a far right extremist who supports racism, you try and hide it, but occasionally you let the cat out of the bag, I think the clue was always in the fact that you only ever support monkey boys minions, you've allowed them to corrupt this forum with their hate speech, you've always been sneaky, incredibly nasty, and wrapped up in your own self importance, some can't see it, I can.

Ben, much like many Americans is naive to the threat of racism, they spend much of their lives oblivious to the reality, living in a tiny feel good bubble, and they'll support racism up until the blade is inserted, that's why we fought alone for so long against Hitler and why Trump is president elect, minorities riot and people get shot.

You allow racists to ply their trade because basically you both don't have the courage to confront them.

SO...you think Ben is naive?? I'm sure he will be gratified by that observation....considering his many posts on the subject....


I think you'll find it was predictable in itself and also the softest, fluffiest word he could find without offending the site owner because he only takes on people he thinks he can beat.


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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:40 pm

Ziz wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Why is this constant disruption being allowed? Every thread is spoilt by it. There are mods on this thread - why don't you just tell them to talk about the topic rather than another poster?

Is  itnot valid to addressa poster's self-declared racism on a thread concerning race started by them for racist purposes?

Fine, if you want everyone to question anyone's motive for starting a thread - that would be very easy. The alternative would be to actually address the issue and/or expand it, yes?

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Post by eddie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:43 pm

scrat wrote:
eddie wrote:
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You are a far right extremist who supports racism, you try and hide it, but occasionally you let the cat out of the bag, I think the clue was always in the fact that you only ever support monkey boys minions, you've allowed them to corrupt this forum with their hate speech, you've always been sneaky, incredibly nasty, and wrapped up in your own self importance, some can't see it, I can.

Ben, much like many Americans is naive to the threat of racism, they spend much of their lives oblivious to the reality, living in a tiny feel good bubble, and they'll support racism up until the blade is inserted, that's why we fought alone for so long against Hitler and why Trump is president elect, minorities riot and people get shot.

You allow racists to ply their trade because basically you both don't have the courage to confront them.

You're all the same.
You'll only attack certain people won't you?

I do not attack anyone, you're blinded by your hatred for anyone who does not comply to monkey boys racism and has the affrontery to present the truth.

And is Ben "naive" to my underhand and very very VERY important work for codename "monkey boy" on a two bit forum?

Is he in a bubble cos he's "American" as you suggested and is he so so naive to it all?

What do you think? Hmmmm?

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:44 pm

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Is  itnot valid to addressa poster's self-declared racism on a thread concerning race started by them for racist purposes?

Fine, if you want everyone to question anyone's motive for starting a thread - that would be very easy. The alternative would be to actually address the issue and/or expand it, yes?

I don't question the motive in this case, I'm certain of it.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:45 pm

I think the mods enjoy the disruption as much as Scrat and co do.

It's pointless trying to discuss anything here these days.

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:46 pm

Major wrote:Another thread ruin by management consent by silence.

Waste of time posting, I expected more control than this..


What do wish them to say, that your racism should be immune from criticism?

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:48 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I think the mods enjoy the disruption as much as Scrat and co do.

It's pointless trying to discuss anything here these days.

It generates hits and posts - wouldn't be the first forum that's tried it. Wink

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Post by Angry Andy on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:07 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Is  itnot valid to addressa poster's self-declared racism on a thread concerning race started by them for racist purposes?

Fine, if you want everyone to question anyone's motive for starting a thread - that would be very easy. The alternative would be to actually address the issue and/or expand it, yes?
I have addressed the issue Raggs. I delved deeper into the story and found it was actually a non story - as I have pointed out. The lady in question , quite correctly was unable to process the wine purchase as she was at the reurns counter. A manager working alongside her saw this, and accepted payment on his till after the lady had done his refund.
The fact she was a Muslim was irrelevant to this story, which only came to light because a racist red top with an anti Muslim agenda picked up on it, applied its usual lies and spin to make it sound another piece of Muslims hate Briain, and our resident self confessed blackshirt picked up on it and ran with it.
Perhaps Piles could spend more time researching legitimate stories instead of the British equivalent to Pravda.
There is but a fag paper between the present Sun stance and the Nazi supporting Mail.


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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:13 pm

Handy Andy wrote:
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Fine, if you want everyone to question anyone's motive for starting a thread - that would be very easy. The alternative would be to actually address the issue and/or expand it, yes?
I have addressed the issue Raggs. I delved deeper into the story and found it was actually a non story - as I have pointed out. The lady in question , quite correctly was unable to process the wine purchase as she was at the reurns counter. A manager working alongside her saw this, and accepted payment on his till after the lady had done his refund.
The fact she was a Muslim was irrelevant to this story, which only came to light because a racist red top with an anti Muslim agenda picked up on it, applied its usual lies and spin to make it sound another piece of Muslims hate Briain, and our resident self confessed blackshirt picked up on it and ran with it.
Perhaps Piles could spend more time researching legitimate stories instead of the British equivalent to Pravda.

So why have Tesco said she wouldn't put the wine through because of her religious beliefs then? There's nothing about it being a returns counter.

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Re: Muslim Checkout Worker Refused To Serve Man With Alcohol.

Post by Angry Andy on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:25 pm

It was the customer services desk. Where returns are made and dvd's and games are collected after purchase. Its in the report. The lady had requested AT THE START OF HER SHIFT that she was was uncomfortable with serving alcohol. This also applies to under 18's who require management approval..
She was told that as she was on Customer services and returns it wouldn't be an issue. Tesco is a reasonable employer and tries where possible to accommodate particular needs of staff.
As I said. Its a non story blown out of all proportion. I know not why.
Certainly does not justify the publicty Piles is giving it.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:33 pm

Handy Andy wrote:It was the customer services desk. Where returns are made and dvd's and games are collected after purchase. Its in the report. The lady had requested AT THE START OF HER SHIFT that she was was uncomfortable with serving alcohol. This also applies to under 18's who require management approval..
She was told that as she was on Customer services and returns it wouldn't be an issue. Tesco is a reasonable employer and tries where possible to accommodate particular needs of staff.
As I said. Its a non story blown out of all proportion. I know not why.
Certainly does not justify the publicty Piles is giving it.

The article makes it perfectly clear that she didn't want to sell alcohol because of her religious belief. I don't have a problem with that really, but let's not change the story just because of who started the thread.

It's the chap who complained who made an issue of it and went running to the press. I don't know why people do that.

It does raise some interesting points though re how accommodating retailers should be, and whether or not the rest of the staff are fine with that kind of thing.

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