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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:50 am

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4EVER2 thinks I am wrong...


Tommy Monk wrote:
Lurker wrote:A nativity scene for Trump supporters, no refugees, no Jews, no Arabs, no Blacks.


Not sure about that... but there were definitely no Muslims back then...
Rather ODD, how you'll start your post with a 'not sure', but then you quickly followed that up with a "but there were definitely no Muslims back then!" statement ...Sweet Jesus Suspect    Tommykins, still proving that lack of reading and just sticking your neck out to get it chopped off! 

If you don't like this thread about 'Thumping-Chump' then ignore all of the sarcastic banter and continued pungent jabs that the rest of us do ...

IT'S RATHER OBVIOUS WHAT THE THREAD IS ABOUT ...DUHHHH
10. Islam: Islam is the one of the oldest religion of the world that was brought by the Holy Prophet PBUH. It is the monotheistic religion in which the Muslims believe of the oneness of Allah Almighty and the Prophet Hood. Islam is the second major religion of the world with almost 1.5 billion followers called Muslims. The origin of the Islam was started in the 622 AD and it was spread to the whole world within a short period of time.
9. Christianity: standing next on our list is the religion called Christianity that was started in the 300 AD before the advent of Islam. It is also a monotheistic religion that was based on the teaching of the Jesus Christ. Christianity is world’s major religion with around 2.1 billion followers. The Christians believe the Jesus Christ to be the son of Allah Almighty and reserves the Holy book called Bible or New Testament.
8. Taoism: Taoism is the one of the oldest religion that arrives before the arrival of Christianity. It was actually a tradition of Chinese origin that gives the lesson of living in peace and harmony. However Taoism can also be found in the other religions and was started in the 4 to 3rd century BC.
7. Jainism: the other oldest religion of the world is the Jainism or usually called Jain Dharma and it belongs to the Indian religions. The religion teaches to be the non-violent, non- stealing, non- absolute and non- possessive. It is a philosophy of eternity that spread all across the India from the very first day of its origin, 450 BC.
6. Confucianism: it is next on our list because it is the one of the oldest religion that describes the ethical and sociopolitical teachings and is spread in the countries like China, Hong Kong, Macau, Japan, Vietnam and Singapore. The advent of this religion started in the 500 BC.
5. Shinto: it is the ethical religion that is followed in the Japan. The religion focus on the ethical values of the people of the Japan there are several types of Shinto that is practiced all over the Japan and it is the largest religion of Japan. The origin of this religion was recorded in the 8th century and is till famous.
4. Buddhism: it is another oldest and the famous religion of the world that consist of the various traditions and practices that are based on the teachings of the Gautama Buddha. The religion was started in the 6th and 4th BC that awakened the regions of China, Thailand, Japan, Korea and India with the estimated followers of 488 million throughout the world.
3. Zoroastrianism: next on our list is the religion that is among the oldest religions of the world. The religion offers the cosmogonic dualism and monotheism in the regions like Iran and India with the 2.6 million followers. The religion started in the 1000 BCE and the basic beliefs of this religion are the Good thoughts, good words and the good deeds.
2. Judaism: the Judaism is the one of the oldest religion that teaches way of life. The Jewish people follow the religion of Judaism that contains the philosophy of culture and the philosophy of monotheism. Torah is the evidence and the foundational text of the Judaism. The origin of this religion was 2000 BCE.
1. Hinduism: this religion is the oldest religion of since the evolution of human beings on Earth that was originate in 4000 to 2500 BCE. It is the dominant religion that is followed mostly in the regions of South Asia like India and Nepal. The Hinduism revolves around the family of the Gods who gave the teachings of cosmology, pilgrimage of the sacred sites and shared textual resources.
http://www.listawake.com/top-10-oldest-religions-of-the-world/

     This statement is just insanity, lamely disguised as a possible attempt at humor; but sorrowfully wrong in all aspects just the same!

Saddam hussein and his baath party were leftie socialists!
And under his rule Iraq was relatively stable, secular and peaceful.



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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Spindleshanks on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

But you don't know whether Mohammed tweaked an existing religion or not.  Islamic belief seems to be as I showed above that he restored the faith rather than created it so really it all comes down to what you personally believe.


I'm not about to trash what they believe anymore than what you believe.

No, there may not be, but as I believe they have actually identified Jews as a race so I would suggest their DNA is possibly distinct from other people in the locality.

I don't know enough about DNA though to really make any judgements on it.


Islamic belief is full of falsehoods and contradictions...



How do you know, were you there at the time the Koran was written?
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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:41 pm

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A difference in what way?

Your opinion of Jesus as the Messiah.

They see it differently to you which given the Christian belief that Christianity is the only true religion must seem like an insult.

It doesn't seem like an insult. This is about when Islam started, and I really don't think that saying it started with Mohammed is an insult either.

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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Spindleshanks on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Your opinion of Jesus as the Messiah.

They see it differently to you which given the Christian belief that Christianity is the only true religion must seem like an insult.

It doesn't seem like an insult. This is about when Islam started, and I really don't think that saying it started with Mohammed is an insult either.

You don't believe Christianity is the one true religion then?
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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:45 pm

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It doesn't seem like an insult. This is about when Islam started, and I really don't think that saying it started with Mohammed is an insult either.

You don't believe Christianity is the one true religion then?

Of course, but I'm not insulted by someone else thinking it's not. It's up to them.

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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Spindleshanks on Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:00 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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You don't believe Christianity is the one true religion then?

Of course, but I'm not insulted by someone else thinking it's not. It's up to them.

Right, so they why are you arguing that Mohammed created Islam when Islamic belief is that he restored it.

If that is what they believe, shouldn't you be respecting that belief and accepting that yes, actually there could have been Muslims even if not known by that name at the time of Jesus birth?

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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:06 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Of course, but I'm not insulted by someone else thinking it's not. It's up to them.

Right, so they why are you arguing that Mohammed created Islam when Islamic belief is that he restored it.

If that is what they believe, shouldn't you be respecting that belief and accepting that yes, actually there could have been Muslims even if not known by that name at the time of Jesus birth?


No, it's not the same thing.

If there were really Muslims known by another name, what do you consider that these Muslims believed before Mohammed told them that their religion was corrupt? How could they have been Muslims if they believed something different to Mohammed? If they believed the same thing, don't you think they would have challenged him when he said that he was a prophet?

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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by HoratioTarr on Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:09 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Islamic belief is full of falsehoods and contradictions...



How do you know, were you there at the time the Koran was written?

Nobody was and therein lies the problem.
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Re: Both my comments are true... or are they...?

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:59 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:
Of course, but I'm not insulted by someone else thinking it's not. It's up to them.

Right, so they why are you arguing that Mohammed created Islam when Islamic belief is that he restored it.

If that is what they believe, shouldn't you be respecting that belief and accepting that yes, actually there could have been Muslims even if not known by that name at the time of Jesus birth?

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IT COULD also be argued that, basically, they were all a bunch of "Mad Jews and Arabs" wandering forlornly across the Middle East and Northern Africa some 2,000 years ago,  until their respective prophets happened along, and gradually spun off the disparate mobs and tribes into what would eventually become their various major "churches"...

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