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Post by sassy on Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:49 pm

Andrey Karlov was shot in the back as he made a speech

The Russian ambassador to Turkey has reportedly died after being shot in the capital city of Ankara. Andrey Karlov was shot in the back as he made a speech at a photo exhibit in the Turkish capital.
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Mr Karlov was several minutes into a speech at the embassy-sponsored exhibition when a man wearing a suit and tie shouted "Allahu akbar" and fired at least eight shots, according to an AP photographer in the audience. 
Mr Karlov died of his wounds, Russia's state-run RIA news agency reported, citing an unnamed source.
There was no official confirmation of the death from the Russian Foreign Ministry.

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Post by Syl on Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:02 pm

How terrible....he ranted without interruption after, was the gunman shot?

edit...I just caught up with the news...the gunman was shot dead.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:18 pm

That's terrible.

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Post by magica on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:34 pm

What a horrible thing to see. His poor family. Im glad the shooting nutter was killed.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:50 pm

The poor man's wife was grief-stricken. What a tragedy.

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Post by magica on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:56 pm

I saw that Quill, it was so sad to see her so distraught.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:11 pm

I am not for one second condoning this, and the man's wife was obviously distraught, but does anyone give a second thought to how distraught people have been seeing what the Russians have been doing in Aleppo?   That was what the assassin was talking about.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:35 pm

sassy wrote:I am not for one second condoning this, and the man's wife was obviously distraught, but does anyone give a second thought to how distraught people have been seeing what the Russians have been doing in Aleppo?   That was what the assassin was talking about.

Yes, you are right, for sure.  People don't give a second thought about what it means to 'send troops in'.  I always ask the most fundamental question: Are they going in with warm puppies and teddy bears, or guns, knives and grenades?

People never stop to think of the fundamental realities: guns don't protect...they are designed and built to kill.  

And they don't kill the person who is trying to kill you.  Soldiers avoid those people.  The only ones they seek out and kill are the babies...the ones who have no guns with which to shoot back.  

So you are not helping anyone when you send the troops in  You are adding to the problem. But, nor are you helping when you gun down a defenseless diplomat.


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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:37 pm

Original Quill wrote:
sassy wrote:I am not for one second condoning this, and the man's wife was obviously distraught, but does anyone give a second thought to how distraught people have been seeing what the Russians have been doing in Aleppo?   That was what the assassin was talking about.

Yes, you are right, for sure.  People don't give a second thought about what it means to 'send troops in'.  I always ask the most fundamental question: Are they going in with warm puppies and teddy bears, or guns, knives and grenades?

People never stop to think of the fundamental realities: guns don't protect...they are design and built to kill.  And they don't kill the person who is trying to kill you.  Soldiers avoid those people.  The only ones they seek out and find are the babies...the ones who have no guns with which to shoot back.  So you are not helping anyone when you send the troops in  You are adding to the problem.



It's not the guns Quill, it's the bombs they and Assad have been dropping on the civilians, plus the Russians have condoned and helped Assad drop chemical weapons.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:44 pm

sassy wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Yes, you are right, for sure.  People don't give a second thought about what it means to 'send troops in'.  I always ask the most fundamental question: Are they going in with warm puppies and teddy bears, or guns, knives and grenades?

People never stop to think of the fundamental realities: guns don't protect...they are design and built to kill.  And they don't kill the person who is trying to kill you.  Soldiers avoid those people.  The only ones they seek out and find are the babies...the ones who have no guns with which to shoot back.  So you are not helping anyone when you send the troops in  You are adding to the problem.



It's not the guns Quill, it's the bombs they and Assad have been dropping on the civilians, plus the Russians have condoned and helped Assad drop chemical weapons.

Well I know...I mean "guns" as a metaphor (metonymy, actually) for offensive weapons.  Teddy Roosevelt first confused a 'stick' with 'walking softly', and the western world has forever after thought of offensive weapons as symbols of defense.  That error has cost the world millions of innocent lives.

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Post by sassy on Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:57 pm

I agree, and what has been happening in Aleppo is simply outrageous.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:30 pm

Fuck off sassy... this is a terrible thing... and no justification for it whatsoever.



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Post by Original Quill on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:21 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Fuck off sassy... this is a terrible thing... and no justification for it whatsoever.

You seem to have no message.

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