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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:42 pm

A new PPP poll unveiled on MSNBC’s ‘The Rachel Maddow Show’ Thursday showed just how out of touch Donald Trump’s supporters are with the real world.

On a slew of questions about simple facts, a large chunk – and, in some cases, strong majorities – of Trump supporters are simply living in a different reality.

Nearly 40 percent of the president-elect’s supporters believe the stock market has gone down under President Obama, despite the fact that it’s nearly doubled during Obama’s tenure.

Trump supporters are also living in an alternate reality with respect to the unemployment rate. Even though the jobless number has gone from 7.8 percent in January 2009 to 4.6 percent last month, a whopping 67 percent of Trump voters think it’s actually increased.

Forty percent of Trump fans also believe that Hillary Clinton lost the popular vote, despite her margin over Trump exceeding 2.7 million votes. An even greater percentage – 60 percent – think “millions” of people illegally cast their ballots for the former Secretary of State.

When asked by PPP whether Trump protesters are being paid by George Soros, 73 percent of the incoming president’s supporters said yes. Fifty-three percent think that votes in the state of California should not be included in the popular vote tally.

The full PPP poll will be released on Friday, but these results show what Donald Trump’s conspiracy-driven campaign has done to our politics and how he has convinced his supporters that the world as it is doesn’t really exist.

Americans are no longer just divided by political ideology, but also by their belief in reality.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/08/trump-supporters-alternate-reality.html

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:00 pm

Yes it seems the thing for Nationalists to do.

Trump to Brexiters all create a make beleive world of lies to support their insanity,
like how many Brits on here say the Uk has Mass migration when it has nothing of the sort.

It really Brings into question the value of democracy when there are so many they either can't understand numbers or refuse to accpet reality.

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Post by Guest on Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:03 pm

Totally true.   They should be made to stand in front of a board with facts on when they spout their rubbish, so everyone can see what rubbish it is.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:16 am

sassy wrote:Totally true.   They should be made to stand in front of a board with facts on when they spout their rubbish, so everyone can see what rubbish it is.

The problem is, even that system would be corruptible.

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:48 am

Yes the REAL solution is Not Rocket Science, but will help make more rocket scientists

"Good free Universal Education"

but hey wouldn't want to take away the Privledges of the Rich White kids Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:24 am



"False opinions are like false money, struck first of all by guilty men and thereafter circulated by honest people who perpetuate the crime without knowing what they are doing."

- Joseph de Maistre

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:11 am

Shocked        Rolling Eyes                    Surprised           Razz          

FIVE SMUG and self righteous doofuses sitting in front of the cameras, so confident in their collective stupidity, thatmthose gullible fools don't even know how ludicrous they look,  for all those "noddies" showing their agreement with that mad cow claiming "fraud" there...

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:19 am

Ben Reilly wrote:

A new PPP poll unveiled on MSNBC’s ‘The Rachel Maddow Show’ Thursday showed just how out of touch Donald Trump’s supporters are with the real world.

On a slew of questions about simple facts, a large chunk – and, in some cases, strong majorities – of Trump supporters are simply living in a different reality.

Nearly 40 percent of the president-elect’s supporters believe the stock market has gone down under President Obama, despite the fact that it’s nearly doubled during Obama’s tenure.

Trump supporters are also living in an alternate reality with respect to the unemployment rate. Even though the jobless number has gone from 7.8 percent in January 2009 to 4.6 percent last month, a whopping 67 percent of Trump voters think it’s actually increased.

Forty percent of Trump fans also believe that Hillary Clinton lost the popular vote, despite her margin over Trump exceeding 2.7 million votes. An even greater percentage – 60 percent – think “millions” of people illegally cast their ballots for the former Secretary of State.

When asked by PPP whether Trump protesters are being paid by George Soros, 73 percent of the incoming president’s supporters said yes. Fifty-three percent think that votes in the state of California should not be included in the popular vote tally.

The full PPP poll will be released on Friday, but these results show what Donald Trump’s conspiracy-driven campaign has done to our politics and how he has convinced his supporters that the world as it is doesn’t really exist.

Americans are no longer just divided by political ideology, but also by their belief in reality.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/08/trump-supporters-alternate-reality.html

Laughing

OVER Forty per cent of Trumpette Americans are off living in their own alternative reality.

No shit,  Sherlock  !

I will give that undeniable survey analysis and conclusion from the O/P my  'Stating the Bleeding Obvious' Award  for the week.

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Re: Poll Shows Trump Supporters Are Profoundly Disconnected From Reality

Post by Independent Thoughts on Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:13 am

Hmmm... perhaps it's the Liberal machine that needs tweaking?

Who won the Presidential election?  Hehe.
Who made a net profit with gained Congressional seats in the previous mid-term elections?  Not the Dems or Libs.   Question
Who lost control of the House and Senate to the Republicans in the election before that... and hasn't regained it since?  Again, we know that answer too.  Mad

Liberals and Conservatives... both living in their little bubble.  But the elections show that the Liberals live in a much bigger fantasy bubble.  It's everyone else's fault that Hillary lost.  Let's even dust off the "It's Bush's fault!" mantra.  Might as well, since you've blamed it on everything except for your failed and unanimously rejected ideology.  Liberalism = Fail!


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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:51 am

^^^^^^^



Ivanka, formerly known as 'Miss Insular Thoughts', is also showing us all, that she too lives in her own little alternative punyverse...

Not content with constantly attempting to rewrite US political history to fit her own narrow agendas..

She also seems totally oblivious to the sad fact that only 25.4% of eligible US voters cast their ballots for the Dumpster !

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:58 am

Ivanka also seems not to realize that Trump's "victory" was 80,000 people in three swing states, thanks to an antiquated voting system. And that Clinton's margin of victory in the popular vote -- which ALMOST ALWAYS REFLECTS THE WINNER OF THE ELECTION -- is now at 2.8 million.

Actually, I think Ivanka is a much more decent human being than her father -- maybe we shouldn't tar her by referring to Indiscriminate Farts as Ivanka.

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Post by Jules on Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:52 pm

@ title
No shit!!!!

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Post by Eilzel on Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:02 pm

Lord Independent Thoughts wrote:Hmmm... perhaps it's the Liberal machine that needs tweaking?

Who won the Presidential election?  Hehe.
Who made a net profit with gained Congressional seats in the previous mid-term elections?  Not the Dems or Libs.   Question
Who lost control of the House and Senate to the Republicans in the election before that... and hasn't regained it since?  Again, we know that answer too.  Mad

Liberals and Conservatives... both living in their little bubble.  But the elections show that the Liberals live in a much bigger fantasy bubble.  It's everyone else's fault that Hillary lost.  Let's even dust off the "It's Bush's fault!" mantra.  Might as well, since you've blamed it on everything except for your failed and unanimously rejected ideology.  Liberalism = Fail!


You just conveniently ignore the fact Clinton gained 3 million more votes than Trump there...

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:43 am

You conveniently overlook that is irrelevant in winning an election. Our founding fathers decided on the Electoral College method... just the same as they decided on a Constitution.
He won. She lost. That's all history is going to say.

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:52 am

My point is, you can't claim 'liberalism' has failed, when the liberal candidate (who was barely liberal anyway) EASILY won the popular vote.

That doesn't mean liberalism has failed, maybe Bernie would have dond better, it means your 'democracy' is broken.

But on the subject of the EC, which you appear to support- would you support it if it did what it was intended for and voted for the most qualified and most popular candidate over the one the one that 'won the Electoral College'?

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Post by Independent Thoughts on Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:11 am

...would you support it if it did what it was intended for and voted for the most qualified and most popular candidate over the one the one that 'won the Electoral College'?

Of course I would. No matter who wins the presidential election, they can't and won't fix your life. That is up to you.

Voting isn't about who you personally perceive to be "most qualified". Obama was a freshman senator that hadn't run so much as a hot-dog stand before he became president. What made him more qualified than his opponents? Nothing. His popularity and empty promises of "Hope and Change" got him elected.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:19 am

I must admit I support some sort of EC (pretty sure Wolf does too, since he benefits from a similar mechanism here).

the real problem is the USA's EC doesn't have a mechanism for self adjustment based on demographics etc. so it is out of Balance.
quite simply there is too big a difference between the popular vote and the EC adjusted vote.

there seems to be several of the ex manufacturing states being given way more representation than they should be based on their population and economic output.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:21 am

Liberalism hasn't failed...
the USA might be failing but it is hardly a liberal beacon Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:53 am

Idea

AS President Obama is neither a "leftie" nor a genuine "liberal" in the true international sense of the words,  the nonsense that Ivanka keeps on spouting on here only proves that (s)he has no genuine understanding of the proper use of political labels...

It has been a long, long time since the USA has had -- if it ever truly did have --  a liberal/"leftie" leader..          Basketball

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